09 Feb 2018 10:17:18
Morning all. It appears clear that the new manager has divides opinions, with some very strongly held. I always find that a good way of assessing a situation is to reverse roles, ie put yourself in the other guy's shoes. Thus if I found myself Leeds manager, the team I love and have always loved and they had given me a new contract, the fact that Barnsley or whoever were bigger and came knocking would mean sod all to me. I would not walk away from Leeds. The only way I would give up Leeds job was if I thought that my continued presence as manager was damaging the club. Man U or Barcelona could come knocking, but if Leeds wanted me to stay, I would turn down all comers. That is my issue with Heck and I think that some of you are being a bit harsh on the guys on here who don't want him. MOT.

{Ed001's Note - you are forgetting that Barnsley owner Cryne had just recently died and it was in the midst of a great change to a different ownership, which includes Billy Beane. Does anyone know if there had been any issues between the new onwership group and him? Or whether or not there were going to be money problems due to Cryne's death which left them in desperate need of the £500k?}


1.) 09 Feb 2018
09 Feb 2018 10:33:30
Surely both Becks and the new ownership will have been aware of latest position re each other prior to new contract being signed. I would presume so.

{Ed001's Note - the contract was signed much earlier than the announcement, because of Cryne's situation they held off announcing it. Not knowing for sure how far in advance means we have no idea, it could literally have been the first thing done and he only found problems working with them afterwards.}


2.) 09 Feb 2018
09 Feb 2018 10:52:47
I don't believe you tory. All managers want to achieve. For you to say you would stay even if a bigger club came aling dosent make sense. No manager in history spurns the chance of prem or europe.


3.) 09 Feb 2018
09 Feb 2018 10:56:19
Didn't know that. Fair point. He's still a Judas like.

{Ed001's Note - I understand that, but this is a career to him, his family has to come ahead of everything.}


4.) 09 Feb 2018
09 Feb 2018 11:04:58
Aus, believe me. Steve Bull stayed with Wolves when he could have earned more. You have just proved me point though, I criticise his appointment and I am effectively called a liar. Bit harsh, as have been some of the comments against contributors who are not at ease with his decision.


5.) 09 Feb 2018
09 Feb 2018 11:21:53
Ed when did the owner die? because he only signed a new contract last week so if he had issues why Sign?

{Ed001's Note - read what I said again, the announcement was last week, he says he actually signed before and the announcement was delayed because of Cryne's situation. What he did not make clear is how long it was delayed. Without knowing that it makes it difficult to judge the man's actions.}


6.) 09 Feb 2018
09 Feb 2018 11:36:35
So he could have jumped before been pushed?

{Ed001's Note - very possibly.}


7.) 09 Feb 2018
09 Feb 2018 12:56:36
IN his press conference, he seems o suggest that the contract was about a year ago but it wasn't implemented until more recently and he lost out financially due to that delay as he wasn't getting his increased pay. he also states that because the new contract has a release clause Barnsley made £500k more than they would have got otherwise, so it sounds like the only reason the new contract was implemented was for the £500k and NOT for the benefit of the manager. sounds like the club knew he was off anyway (and disillusioned due to the transfer policy and having the players he spent lots of time building up sold from under him) and implemented the contract to avoid missing out financially. Don't know how much is true but it certainly puts a different slant on things.


8.) 09 Feb 2018
09 Feb 2018 12:23:24
Explains a lot to me. I hate em but I'll let them pay my mortgage. Bet he don't move to leeds


9.) 09 Feb 2018
09 Feb 2018 13:16:08
Most managers of small clubs love it when one of there fledglings makes it big alf and would not stand in there way moving to bigger clubs. I loves cook but wouldn't of stood in his way of playing at a higher level. He got paid if they stayed or went.


10.) 09 Feb 2018
09 Feb 2018 18:38:57
Don't forget that the Don left Leeds for a bigger job . just saying