Leeds Banter Archive January 10 2019

10 Jan 2019 21:19:11
If Clarke is sold against Bubs wishes. Answers on a postcard please.

10 Jan 2019 21:28:25
I don’t think Radz or Orta are stupid enough to jeopardise their relationship with Bielsa. But is quite clearly enjoying this project, and the scope he has been given. He will have some assurances.

10 Jan 2019 21:35:08
If the figures are in around 10 million as is being reported this means a big pay day for his agent so could imagine what Mr Ian harte would be advising.

10 Jan 2019 22:18:09
I'd only sell Clarke for £35m+ with easily achievable add-ons.

10 Jan 2019 22:19:52
Fair point wex lad. I do distrust agents, including Hartey!

10 Jan 2019 22:51:31
It’s not just his agent, this could be an offer that guarantees the young lad financial security for his early life . You can’t discount the attractiveness of these opportunities to the player and family.

I think he wants to play for Leeds and be in the premiership with us and if that doesn’t happen this year, then the chance to go elsewhere should still be there.

Don’t forget the lad could turn down this off and have a career threatening injury a week later and suddenly the opportunity has gone.

That’s also another reason why any championship club would not seriously consider an offer 10-15 million for a young lad who has yet to fully establish himself as a first team regular.

Obviously I want him to stay and help take us to the Premiership and do as well as he can for us there, but he and his family will be thinking about his future as well.

11 Jan 2019 00:42:48
Didn't he supposedly turn down Citeh? If so, why would he go now? Just more cheapo so-called journalism IMHO.

11 Jan 2019 04:14:02
Gotta be plus $25 mill. With 3 yr free loan back and 30% of future transfer fee. If they want him that bad. Pay for him. If it’s any of top 6. They can afford it.
Any team under top 6 he would be silly to go to anyway and they couldn’t afford him.

11 Jan 2019 09:00:35
I think Clarke will stay and review his options in the summer alongside a Leeds contract. Not sure there is a need for premiership clubs to act now. His development with Leeds is likely to be fine until then and probably better than being thrown in to any premiership club under 23 setup.

I think it is far more likely that we could lose Roofe this window, the chance of goals for the club and guaranteed much higher contract for him for a few years.

We see these situations for a fans or business prospective, the player is looking at it from his own personal and families financial future.

11 Jan 2019 09:18:54
Why wouldn't a premier league club act now. Knowing Radz money issues are well publicised maybe they sense an opportunity.

11 Jan 2019 09:21:38
1. Read a lot of comments 20-30mil, let's be realistic, if he does want to leave there's no way we're getting that much, 6-8mil max most likely. He's young and unproven despite performing well in the league. The sort of player 20-30mil will buy you is far beyond his current ability, and I do appreciate he has massive potential just don't think those numbers are realistic.
2. I honestly can't see him wanting to leave. He loves Leeds, comes from the academy and is being given exposure at a good level under a great manager. He especially won't want to leave in January, where in the premier League is he going to go and get first team football just now? I think radz and orta aren't being stupid postponing his contract talks until the summer. Sends a message to him, prove your good enough, keep developing and we will reward you. It also makes sure not every player is knocking the door down asking for a contract extension/ raise after half a season. He's on a long contract.

11 Jan 2019 09:54:11
Wex, a premier league club offering good money to club and player is always going to have a chance, now in the summer or beyond. Where is there any evidence that we need to sell? Other clubs are going to be dealing with urgent needs first and Clarke doesn’t fit that need for a Prem club.

I’d worry much more about losing Roofe, he does offer the chance of more goals now, more of a track record and really wants to improve his contract. We have Bamford and Roberts in the wings, much easier for everyone to justify him going if he wants to and gets unhappy!

11 Jan 2019 10:15:00
Wex great post mate.

11 Jan 2019 12:14:09
I'm asking what would it do for the relationship between Radz and Co and bub.

11 Jan 2019 12:14:42
Just out of interest Whiteman, given Wex has posted 3 times above, which particular part of his post or posts is great? Do you think we will sell Clarke? Should sell Clarke?

11 Jan 2019 13:35:09
Lol Spanish. I’m still waiting for an insightful post of any substance from our friend, rather than just nodding and sarcasm. 😳🤔.

11 Jan 2019 15:07:12
It's all up to the young man, if he gets it in his head to go then, eventually, he will. Slap a £30M pricetag on him and see who's still interested.

10 Jan 2019 19:17:32
Catholic girl goes into confession and tells the Premier "father I'm pregnant". " How did this happen my child? " He asks her " Father I think it's the second coming " she replies. Rather ataken back by her explanition, he asks her " now why would you think it's the second coming my child? " To which she replies " because I swallowed the first one father".

10 Jan 2019 19:26:12
You're getting better Martyn :)

10 Jan 2019 20:06:47
nice one Martyn.

11 Jan 2019 13:38:32
Typical "quality"!

10 Jan 2019 17:45:57
Seeing as Radz is giving it the poor mouth which one of the crown jewels is going to be sold to fund transfers.

10 Jan 2019 18:03:52
No one of note will be sold, calm down, window has just opened. We will sign two players and win the league. You heard it here first.

10 Jan 2019 15:57:15
hi all this is a big tie of the year for us in most seasons but this year wow I was orried until I listened to mr bielsa.

10 Jan 2019 18:22:08
No television, busty? I'm still very orried!

10 Jan 2019 15:38:58
I'm always happy to stand corrected here.
20 games left, 13 of which are against teams we have already beaten. Of those, Pablo missed 7, Roofe 6, plus other key players, and Bamford and Brown have hardly even featured. Don't panic!

10 Jan 2019 16:36:01
As always heaps of pressure on new faces. They are always the answer to our current woes. Let's just let them breathe.

10 Jan 2019 13:52:47
Think Roofe might drop back into the 10 role and Roberts up front . If not working change it around .

10 Jan 2019 14:38:19
It'll be more like other way round. You don't sacrifice a striker who's in form especially when there's no fit substitute striker as of yet. Roberts can grow into no.10 role. Will need a few games for experiment to work.

10 Jan 2019 14:45:20
Definite possibility of them interchanging throughout the game. Keeps their defence thinking.

10 Jan 2019 13:31:58
All I'm saying is we should be at an even keel now; all of the Wood, Taylor, Vieira and 49ers money has covered all of the incomings since Orta was hired. (including loans)

There is no way we have gone over that budget - so now is the time for Radz to either sell more equity (too late for this window) or put up. We're not asking for Aston Villa investment, we're asking for the equivalent of being first in the Championship!

10 Jan 2019 10:41:30
I'm not going to be happy if we don't reinforce in this window.
I'm with George. I can see a Leeds style implode if we don't.
As good as Biesla is. We simply haven't got the players to compete. I fear that the wheels will come off.
I don't care how hard it is to get the right player. January window has been coming since the last one. We barely had enough in the first place but have done well to get where we are.
We have the money. Now use it.

10 Jan 2019 11:41:38
You only have to look at last season - Cardiff were not exactly splashing the cash yet when January came around they spent 7 million on Madine. An average player at best - but when you're in those top 3/ 4 spots it is imperative to strengthen!

How we haven't sourced a keeper wanting more game time within the past 6 weeks is unbelievable - only Leeds!

10 Jan 2019 12:40:42
We have the money Aus? Not according to radz.

10 Jan 2019 13:05:19
Agree Sherburn, the keeper situation should have been sorted straight away.

10 Jan 2019 17:04:21
Sherburn, you’re example of Cardiff purchasing Madine isn’t apt as he cost £7 million played 18 scored nil, now gone on loan, a good reason not to waste money!

10 Jan 2019 08:59:41
Think we as fans should realise that the process of signing new players is complex and certainly not straight forward! Some fans just think click your fingers and we will have top quality players come running to elland road,
Theres the fee which quite often is inflated, jan window always cautious because any decent top quality players would not be available in january, clubs will just not sell their best players particularly to rival clubs unless they're skint and a stupid ridiculous inflated offer came in, so the best players are hard to find in january, then you have to convince the player to upsticks and move his family to somewhere they might not really want to live, then there's wages to negotiate, most now come with stipulations game time assertions from their agents bonuses etc to negotiate, some (not all) don't want to drop down a league so its not an easy process for orta and the club and that's why it probably takes longer than the fans would like and why they have lists of players for one position in order of preference. I imagine it is a stressful job MOT brothers 😎.

10 Jan 2019 10:29:35
Loan market DJ?

10 Jan 2019 11:19:55
It's not simple but money talks. Aston Villa knew their problem positions and a keeper was through the door on January 1st.

The transfer market wasn't difficult last summer when Orta was signing every Tom, Dick, and Harry for Christiansen.

And might I add paying some rather large fees in the process.

10 Jan 2019 12:43:14
Yea sherburn villa are spending big but also breaking rules which might come back to haunt them. We on the other hand are playing by the rules and not cheating like some.

10 Jan 2019 12:45:52
Sherbet You got to have the dough first.

10 Jan 2019 13:20:49
What I'm saying is we should be at an even keel now; all of the Wood, Taylor, Vieira and 49ers money has covered all of the incomings since Orta was hired. (including loans)

There is no way we have gone over that budget - so now is the time for Radz to either sell more equity (too late for this window) or put up. We're not asking for Aston Villa investment, we're asking for the equivalent of being first in the Championship!

10 Jan 2019 14:04:13
You're right lads. We should have the money but what if we still have a leaky ship. From previous owners. Most of the incoming money is already earmarked to cover debts still ongoing. No, I believe that there are no millions sloshing about and that any recruitment will be at the very end of Jan (if a seller blinks first) or a cheap loan deal. Added to that theory is the precarious position of Eleven Sports which was a major investment and is currently losing big time. He may even be moving funds to prop it up? In Radz we have an owner with his heart in the right place it's just again, we have found a multi millionaire with no money. The fact that Orta appears to have only recently been in motion underlines my theory. With a useful budget and the team going well he should have been making phone calls weeks/ months ago ready for 01 January.