Leeds Banter Archive May 15 2014

 

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15 May 2014 22:59:02
Can someone please explain to me how Cellino is liable for all of Leeds debts when he only has 75% share, GFH must be liable for some of the debt when they still have a stake in the club and they probably created the debts. Another thing that I can't get my head around is that Cellino had his lawyers do the due diligence before he took over, so he must of known the state of the finances, surely all these debts couldn't of been hidden. I agree with everything he is doing with regards to the cuts, it should of happened years ago, but he made promises about buying the ground and we all spoke about the wealth of the man, £350million reportedly. So how much money does he have. I guess we will have to wait and see who we sign and reserve judgement till after the summer.

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15 May 2014 22:50:41
Interesting thought. Damian Duff. He might not be as good as Strachan and a bit older at Gordons time but he could be one helluv a buy. Just what we need, I think, a proper experinced ball-player. Personally i'd rather Duff than Joe Cole, although both maybe outta reach.

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15 May 2014 21:31:36
Mr Cellino hope u are watching mr Taveneer and Agarrd tonight best 2 players I've seen in long time in lower division. Pringle ain't bad either. Think the right back looks some player. I know it's a Grayson defence they are playing against but good players always stand out a mile. Think Taveneer belongs to the barcodes though. Agard on a free no brainier

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15 May 2014 20:37:29
Massimo at Rotherham preston game tonight. what great game

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Maybe he's having a good look at that pringle quality player ant mot

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15 May 2014 20:33:06
cellino at rotherham. any ideas

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{Ed003's Note - watching a game of football.}

Probably watching Agard. 25 goals this year from wing

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I'd have Pringle. What a left foot and good work rate. Sign him up now. Imagine smithy and McCormack on the end of his deliveries

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Agree with Dmash he is watching Agaad who is out of contract soon

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Or maybe a guy called Kilkenny?

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Agard sounds promising

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Pringles not a bad player, think he's come on a lot since Derby got rid!But i'm not so sure he would be a good signing in this division, as he failed miseraby at the rams.(i live in derby, so have lots of friends opinions)

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15 May 2014 20:19:21
22 year old aostolos Vellios has been released by everton, I think he'd be a great addition to the team!
MOT

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{Ed003's Note - had him at B'pool at the back end of the season he was awful we even sent him back early when we were riddled with injuries lol.}

15 May 2014 19:43:46
Good luck to Simon Grayson tonight.

MOT

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15 May 2014 18:35:23
Good morrow fellow fanatics, just thought I would throw my hat in and say in my humble opinion any criticism of Mr Cellino is out of order. The guy has shown his intent and commitment over the last few months, he has a huge task and its his money and reputation. Its all very well buying a Ferrari, but as GFH found out, no use if you have a provisional licence. Give the bloke a chance, see where we are in a year. let's face it he is the best chance we have had in years and there are absolutely no other candidates to sort this mess out

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I suspect that much of this is down to media mischief making rather than than having any real substance. There's not much real football news to report on at the minute. Journos have to write something.

And, I agree he needs our support but I'd also add that nobody is above criticism.

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If it wasn't for MC we would be in Administration with 10 or 15 points deducted for next season. We are lucky to have him. MOT

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15 May 2014 15:00:21
I agree jt about seemingly harsh treatment of mcd. I think a lot is down to translation and paraphrasing though. I think mcd is out of his depth now and should go but what I think both of them should have done is diarise a sitdown before holiday!
Why not get business out the way first. Jeez there is a huge amount to do. Masses to get ready for new season onslaught
A bit naive and almost disrespectful for mcd to bugger off on holiday when mr c is throwing rubbishloads of cash at the club to take it forward!

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Yes Naïve of BM to go on holiday when he did for sure, you don't have to be a genius to work out you need to stay around when this is a key time for Leeds.

So either BM don't care, or is a bit thick, either way it is not going to work him and MC, BM not sharp enough methinks for the quick talking, quick witted Italian.

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Drivel. Now is absolutely the time for a football manager to go on holiday. The training ground is closed, the transfer markets are closed and in McDermott's case Cellino has failed to turn up at several recent meetings to discuss the things he now claims he wants to discuss. He can hardly complain when he's been pretty unreliable himself.

Right now managers want a break before the world cup when even Championship managers will be wanting to unearth a good player or two. Then they'll be focused on transfers and pre-season. This is the only real chance they'll get.

If you don't rate McDermott that's your right. I disagree, as is my right, because I think his track record in this league speaks for itself, but using Cellino's latest eccentric outburst as a stick with which to beat him is just ludicrous.

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Sorry axeman but you are being very naive! If you were the General Manger of any business who had just had a change of ownership, the last thing you would do is be away from your desk knowing that big changes were going to be made. Either BMD is stupid or he is engineering his own dismissal.

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Hardly naive when it comes to employment law CJS. I'm in my 50s and a company director/owner employing 8 staff.

Paid holiday is a legal entitlement and McDermott, along with all football managers, has very little option as to when to take it.

Cellino is the naive one since he's not displayed much awareness when it comes to employment culture right from the beginning.

This is not a reason to criticise McDermott. It's personic.

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I have heard Brian is not on holiday he is down South because his Mother is in hospital.

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Axeman . I am very aware of employment law having been responsible for administering it for a company with100+ employees. My point is that BMD cannot be unaware of what is going on at ER and if he was truly committed to his role would not have chosen to be absent at a crucial time. He could always choose to be paid in lieu if he was so concerned about squeezing every
penny from his contractual obligations. Remember, holidays are timed at the company's discretion!

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Think McD playing it spot on as Axeman says, this is exactly the right time for him to go on holiday. He`ll be back week after next if it`s two weeks.

Time will tell, just as was expected it`s full throttle Massimo.

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It might be the right time to take a holiday BUT don't you think as MC said ( plans for next season/players wanted ) would be top of his agenda before he went on his hols?
Also the retained list has to be into the football league by May 19th!!

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In which case CJS you should better understand the legal implications of Cellino's rather stupid public statements.

The word is though that he's visiting his sick mother so the holiday thing looks like a red herring. Surely, if that's true, none of us would begrudge him time off for that?

In any case, I still maintain it's his only option for a break with a world cup coming up next month.

The groundwork on players being released and retained will already have been done and I suspect Cellino will want absolute control over the process no matter what McDermott thinks.

One of the big problems at Leeds that rarely gets mentioned on here is the fact that when McDermott arrived at Leeds he discovered there was no scouting network. Bates had dismantled it. The idea that managers do all the legwork of signings is simply not true which is why we shouldn't really be blaming managers for their signings. Club managers no longer have the time to scout themselves and are completely reliant on their network to draw up shortlists. It goes a long way towards explaining why the last two managers have relied on bringing in their old players (although it's a common mistake managers do make even when they have scouts).

I'd recommend reading The Nowhere Men by Michael Calvin for anyone wanting to properly understand how football recruitment works these days. It was a real eye opener for me. I suspect anyone who reads it will be a bit less harsh on McDermott and Warnock - although the Warnock hoofball can never be forgiven.

The Bates legacy has made the manager's job at Leeds all but impossible and we maybe need to be a bit more patient and perhaps more realistic about how long the job is going to take. Cellino's two year plan looks over ambitious to me.

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15 May 2014 13:31:08
Stupid question probably but is there a deadline for submitting the retain release list.Every other team seems to have done theirs

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Heard it has to be in to the F-league by next Monday 29th ;(

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Never mind just found the answer saturday deadline apparently.Should be interesting

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15 May 2014 11:50:10
wtf - benito carbone appointed as a consultant in charge of technical and football operations?
looks to me like bmd's days are numbered!

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Could be another lost in translation things, but what is being said around sardina is. carbone will be responsible for all matters football club, including first team and the academy. mot

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I suspect it's more of an overseeing 'director of football' kind of role. No one can manage the day to day running of all of a football club's teams.

If so that's a good thing.

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15 May 2014 09:59:41
I have been reading a lot of comments on here lately and on social network sites about Cellino and the way he is going about things, Lots of people are giving him undeserved stick with some of the things he is doing and saying.

I am shocked and disgusted with these as he is doing a fantastic job, he has taken over a club with more drama's than an episode of Eastenders, he has people coming from everywhere asking for money owed that by the sounds of things he wasn't even aware of.

The guy was aiming a little high when he said we would be back in the Premiership in 2 seasons (my opinion) with all the extra crap he is getting thrown at him. I would think your looking more like 3 seasons to be fair. If this is the case then so be it and let's get behind him and support him. He is the best chance we have of getting back running and functioning as a proper football club.

MOT

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Agree. lufc4life, I think an old adage here is true.
The phrase 'cometh the hour, cometh the man' means that when a time of need arises, a man to do the job will appear. Cellino is our man, in time of DIRE NEED. MOT

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I think the way he is handling McD is a little harsh. Don't get me wrong It's time for Brian to go, I'm on record stating his sacking at the end of Jan was the correct decision. I just don't think anybody is benefitting from his mind games. et him out, get a new manager in ASAP so we can concentrate on the new season.

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I agree, the guy has taken over a failing business and it is a long road to recovery, but MC is tackling it in the right way: look at the overheads and cut costs where available. The only other option is to put up prices that nobody wants to see.
I for one am happy as Larry (whoever he is) that MC has bought the club.
Sustainable growth over the next couple of seasons to challenge for promotion. Happy Days

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Don't understand ANY of the criticism, can someone please come forward who would prefer us to still be under GFH control and in administration.

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15 May 2014 08:31:42
I think some of what Cellino says is lost in translation. We have no manager means, I am the manager. Where is Brian means, It's me who is here running the club. I write him a letter. means, I'm Italian I exaggerate.

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Add to this.

I will meet with my old friend Jeff who introduced me to Leeds United. who the hell is this Jeff geezer?

MM

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