Leeds Banter Archive January 16 2012

16 Jan 2012 23:20:26
For all the people wanting our current manager sacked,who do you think would want to take over..can you imagine the interview with KB.
so how much money will i have to strengthen the team Ken?
Ha Ha did you say money old lad i am afraid i don't give managers any of that,what we have here is a 'pot'
and whats in it isn't worth pissing in..time a lot of people realised this,fair enough larry plays a lot of players out of position and gets his tactics wrong (as all managers do at times)but with the pittance of a budget he has worked on we are about where we should be,lets be honest a lot of us think we have over achieved with the current squad,lets stick with/by grayson till the end of the season and see what happens...this maybe his last window for once lets hope he looks out of it and sees the right players we need,if so we are not too far off to mount a challenge for a play off place...i know a lot will disagree with this but there is far too much negativity around the ground/club at the moment,we all pulled together when we were minus 15,its time to do the same again and support the current team/manager till the end of the season...rant over {Ed025's Note - good rant mate..

Wheres your evidence to support that Grayson is working with a pittence of a budget? KB and SG have publicly stated there IS money available to strengthen the squad - we have a massive wage infrastructure based on poor signings, irrespective of loans or freebies all of which Grayson is accountable - his coaching staff is abysmal and his team selections and tactics are questionable..! worst Leeds team since 1984. PS please stop posting we are 3 points off a playoff, we are also several points off a relegation dogfight, nothing but six points in our next two will be good enough to save Grayson -

I would say judged on the signings we have made..brown rachuba and o dea on loan,we obviously don't have a great deal of money to spend..that's the only evidence us fans get to see

No need to speculate - the evidence is in the accounts - in the public domain just as with all other companies registered in England & Wales. Bates has also publicly stated we're not a buying club and mainly looking at frees & loans.

Grayson has improved our position every year despite a negative net expenditure of about 10 million over 3 years. Anyone who thinks that is poor performance clearly has little knowledge of football history. Sometimes teams overachieve in relation to their expenditure and Leeds have been doing that. Generally though, success follows the cash - Blackburn under Jack Walker, Chelski, Man City...

If we want to be back in the premiership we need investment in the team. Look at the respective fates of Crawley (investment in the team, flying up the leagues) and Darlington (investment in the ground not the team - out of the league, on the brink of bankruptcy)...

16 Jan 2012 20:18:45
Think Simon should see out season, but if he does go the right man for the job would be Dave Jones. {Ed003's Note - Good shout }

Dave Jones would be a great shout. He doesnt play most players out of their position unlike Larry!

Yes IF we lose Larry - cos we lose more games - which may happen folks ! then a change is justified what ever peoples feelings for Larry are on here - and the best man would be Jones I agree - not warnock - David Jones gets on with job - lots of experience good and bad - steady hand and a decent welsh man

He ain't welsh. he's a brummy.

He ain't a brummy or a welsh man....... His accent gives it away... He's a scouser

I'd be gutted if that slimy Scouser came near our club. We really are in the mire if he takes over. Rubbish track record even when given money to spend. Has never taken a club forward, just kept the status quo or worse. No thanks.

No he's from mars.

Dave jones aint a brummie or welsh hes a scouser

16 Jan 2012 18:10:56
Grayson has the full backing of Bates.

www1.skysports.com/football/news/11688/7416204/Bates-backs-Grayson

That was last week person and is often said just before a manager goes

16 Jan 2012 17:15:29
Im sick of all the twaddle on here. Graysons going nowhere . if you want instant glory grab a prawn sandwich and piss off to scumchester.Slowly but surely this team is improving . If we get a new manager in we start from scratch all over again. stick with it i say it will come with patience. {Ed025's Note - well said mate..

No way is the team improving

IMPROVING, where , when, how, Defensively awful and we have been since promotion, Midfield weak and always look overun, Attack of which use to be are saving grace has now gone AWOL .tactics shocking , form dismal 4 points from 15, 5th in dec it's on 3rd week in jan and were 11th and on the slide ,embarrassing defeats at home I can still hear the Blackpool/ Barnsley fans singing, this season is on the brink of over and I can't see Grayson pulling it round.

Y can hear every teams fans at elland road atmosphere is shocking

If I'm not wrong we were league one two seasons ago and we've been in and around the play offs for last two seasons. We beat the scum and got good draws against Liverpool and arsenal. We separate the wheat from the chaff with the turnover of cheap players we sign or loan. Bates won't alter the pay structure or spend money we ain't got. So let's lay off Grayson . Like I said the other day, it could be worse we could be Leicester . Spent money and floundering.

16 Jan 2012 16:35:21
Grayson to leave and Lucas radeba to take over till end off season. FACT!!!!

You know someone whose friend walks his dog with Ken Bates's gardener? Think we'd need to see a bit more evidence...

1st I don't think he will leave on his own accord, 2nd Lucas isn't the man to take us forward.The ex player come manager has never worked at ER.

Who is Lucas radeba ? {Ed025's Note - its only spelling mate...get over it..

16 Jan 2012 15:35:07
i must say i am very disappointed in all this hounding out SG, has has done very well with us and think if the purse strings wernt so tight he would do better, admittedly i do think some ov his tactical decisions are poor at times, but he like the team are still learning, i kno its a results business but so is club stability and between SG and hate to say it KB we have that. But we do need something to happen somewhere in the club fast b4 its too late. dont 4get tho we are only sat 1 point out of the playoffs.....M.O.T

Erm I think you will find its 3 points not 1

It is deserved if our team perform like they did 2nd half of last year will will be relegated for sure!

Anyone who thinks we could be relegated really needs their bumps feeling.

16 Jan 2012 14:40:19
Simon needs to come out and stop this speculation on if he has been sacked or not because,if he is staying why not come out and give his verdict on sat maybe he is boycotting all press due to all the publicity last week about this person takin his job and that person takin his job,can't blame him really.

Maybe he is busy doing his job and not looking at rumour sites?

16 Jan 2012 13:55:02
nigel quashie coming out of retirement for the lads

16 Jan 2012 13:48:15
leeds will do most of there buisness on the last day and that,s when players will be leaving ken bates does not care about leeds wot so ever he hates leeds and said so when he was chairman of chelsea

First and foremost, Bates is a businessman. As a businessman you do not enter into a venture without the aim of making a profit. To make a profit at a football club you must be successful, so although the vast majority of us cannot agree with the way he conducts the running of LUFC (myself included), I do understand that (in his mind) it is ultimately for the best of the club.

16 Jan 2012 13:29:58
What is up with everybody, Grayson must be like all of us at the moment, frustrated at the lack of results, just because he has not spoken after the Palace game does not mean he has been sacked, we ran a very good Palace side ragged for long periods of that game OK against 10 men, but all the same we looked good on the ball and the speed of the passing was too much for them. Injuries and lady luck have been against us for the last few weeks, lets all stop moaning and get behind SG and the team, As far as Bates goes he was the backbone behind us surviving bankrupy so come on, the team we have with some additions is more than capable of promotion, this league is very ordinary and with a luck change we can still go on a run that will secure the playoff's and even automatic promotion, the top two are very patchy at the moment. If anyone as seen a better side than us this season then please let me know. And finally dont forget that we are LEEDS and evrytime we play it is the other teams big game and they all are gunning for us, all the grounds are full and the atmosphere makes ordinary players perform at a higher standard, this is what we have to put up with week in and week out, who the hell cares and looks for the Southampton fixture at the start of the season, i can tell you all the sides will look for the Leeds fixture. Kevin

16 Jan 2012 12:56:09
Keep hearing people call for SG sacking. I admit I am not a huge fan, but what is the alternative ? Who could make a difference with no money ??

Simon Grayson hasndonena superb job with Leeds, the players shouldntakensome responsibility, and i do not believe bates has the desire for topflight like the rest of us. Get your wallet out or sell to somebody who will

16 Jan 2012 12:42:15
Could anyone tell me why we have heard nothing from simon and glyn snowing doing all the talk,as for the person who says he's been sacked load of bull and where do you get this 2pm from.

Was meant to type snodin my appologies.

16 Jan 2012 12:30:06
just to clarify to all the rumours on here, beckford
is able to sign for leeds as everton are in a different league i can confirm this as a recognised member of the football association. also the reason why simon grayson is not performing is because of ken bates who is above him and will not give him the funds to spend so it is not the manager but the owner. i am a leeds fan and would like to see grayson stay and bates put his hand in his pockets MOT beckford to return soon delph is in the pipeline.
Samuel H*****d

I believe that a manager should first and foremost be able to get the best out of the players currently at a club. The amount of players we have signed who should be more than comfortable at this level and are not performing is ridiculous. Look at how many players have left us and improved, when we start getting the best out of the players we have, is when we need to start spending money on people, otherwise we will just have a squad of expensive missperforming players, rather than cheap ones.

Absolutely no chance of Beckford returning. His current contract at Leicester is huge and far more than anyone will ever get at LUFC while Papa Smurf at the helm, and I don't think Leicester will pay £25k a week to Leeds for a loan deal.. Accept it, Lazy Attitude Boy not coming back !

Bates wouldnt even pay 7k pw for keith andrews so 25k for beckford no chance

Re keith andrews that was 7k on top of what he offered

Forget Fabien - yes it would be great but other teams will offer to pay more of his wages than KB will part with.... another smokescreen to mask our inactivity as usual. As for Lihaj he will be staying at Villa cos Huttons a red card waiting to happen

16 Jan 2012 11:28:30
Its ridiculous how many Leeds fans want former players back.

Alan Smith - Gone at Game
Jermaine Beckford - Cant play for a third club this season anyway.
Eric Lihaj - Theres far better about
Rob Hulse - Not played a competitive game for about 2 years
Max Gradel - Went back to France because he was homesick.

Yes Fabian Delph would add so much to our team so Id take him but in the main, leave the others where they are and move on.

Fans calling for Grayson's head - Who is Leeds through and through, has done a fantastic job with no money - has had to put up with Bates publicly putting him under pressure.

Leeds fans can be so fickle - MOT

Smith- no
Beckford- he can play
Lichaj- was quality last season,
Hulse- just no
Gradel - is from the ivory coast :s France will hardly be homely , he has even stated he misses Leeds

Delph

With no money? o'brien and mccormack cost more than a million.
look what happen to them, inconsistent and won't play the team anymore. That's why Bates not willing give him more money.

i respect the guy but he should leave

Both combined cost more n a mill mccormacks r top scorer n was worth what ever we payed for him

16 Jan 2012 10:40:02
Wonder why Grayson hasnt talked about the game on the official website and it was left to Snodin. I may be reading too much into it. Dont know how i would feel about SG going, definite progress made under him although at times i feel he may have taken us as far as he can

If you call progress going backwards then yes definite progress.

Before some of you try to cut me down, Grayson style of football, tactics, substitution, media statements, transfer record is all proof that he has taken Leeds backwards. Leeds used to play football not anymore!

I really really hate him as our manager!

Thats because he has been sacked 2pm OS

Original poster, i call League 1 to Championship definite progress

"If you call progress going backwards then yes definite progress."

We were in League one when he took over. What a nonsense thing to say.

7 games ago we were 5th , now 11th and falling fast.. Backwards is an understatement.

16 Jan 2012 01:00:22
"old football was rubbish but not as rubbish as andy cole"

One for the kids