Leeds Banter Archive April 17 2017

 

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17 Apr 2017 21:33:39
I still have faith, though it may be blind faith. My concern is that we in a trough of poor form and have been for weeks with some wins papering over the cracks. I hope Monk's rallying call means that if we go down it will be with all guns blazing. let's play 2 defensive midfielders but with the philosophy of one getting forward whenever he can (without being reckless) cue Viera/O'Kane.

It also seems the time to drop Pablo who has flattered to deceive on too many occasions. It may wise to take Roofe, tell him to play a number 10, with licence to roam but an eye to push into the box at every opportunity.

If he scored so many lat year it's now his time to show how. Certainly on paper the remaining fixtures are ones where we would be justified in just going for it and scare the daylights out of them and get the other teams worried.

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17 Apr 2017 23:48:36
Well said

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18 Apr 2017 00:58:38
It's certainly time to go for it. It's out off our hands now and 3 wins are vital. And can only do that by having a go. Might as well finish the season having a real go. Give woods a bit off help yo top and and go 3-5-2. I just hope the season doesn't fizzle out at the final hurdle after being in too 6 so long. I knew Fulham come good as they've been oksyimg well since xmas and always a team makes a run from no Wer which seems to be them. c'mon monkey man. Give us 3 wins and something to hold onto 🙏🏻⚽⚽😃

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18 Apr 2017 09:14:59
we need to start oksyimg well and soon

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18 Apr 2017 09:20:02
It's still in our hands, wendies and Fulham can't both win their last three, and if we do then we're in the play-offs. Whether or not we do make it, we've had a fantastic season. MOT

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18 Apr 2017 09:26:08
Yes batty, this is exactly the time to try something new. Go for 352 vs burton

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17 Apr 2017 21:31:22
The hardest part of today's game was after 30 minutes we had 60% possession and we hadn't an attempt on goal not one attempt on goal. With all we have to play for and we couldn't muster an attempt. If I was monk i'd be selling Wood for as much as I can get and investing in a couple of strikers. On another point does antonsson offer anything. I saw him in pre season and thought he was ok.

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17 Apr 2017 19:25:55
Well I have said that we've been over achieving. Did I witness our true quality today? Absolutely dire against a very poor side. The next 3 games will be a very big ask from everyone involved. I'm not optimistic.

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17 Apr 2017 21:27:02
4 points from last 3 steady that's as good as see us getting. Dog botherers let Fulham take all 3 next week I can't see us getting close to them and a 7th finish looming.

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17 Apr 2017 21:30:30
I agree Burton will be up for it, Norwich will want to put one over on us. If we can come up with pass accuracy we can win all three. (have to stay optimistic) . Doubts are getting to me though, let's hope not to the team. Maybe hudders will do us a turn.

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17 Apr 2017 21:32:42
Speedy a few of us have been saying it since Christmas at least. just said to sad to see that we weren't as stupid as people tried to make us out to be

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17 Apr 2017 18:44:00
Shocking performance today but keep calm everyone and stay positive. We can win every game from now on. Wendies and Fulham need to play each other. Also, different mentality being the chaser, might suit us better. MOT.

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17 Apr 2017 19:26:26
Can we Lucas? we said that 3 games ago and we've hardly shown up for the last 270 minutes! I can't believe that the players can't be motivated with a packed er and what is at stake!

I also can't believe we still have no plan b and field exactly the same team who we total shite on Friday! I am going to be honest, did Swansea get rid of monk because of the plan b and the way he appears to be totally unable to see how a game needs to be changed!

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17 Apr 2017 21:26:13
Totally agree Lucas, whilst today's performance was really poor, until it's mathematically impossible for us to make the playoffs I am going to firmly believe we can. Not getting the idea of blaming specific individuals, all Leeds fans know we are the surprise package of the season, spent the least yes, but other priorities like removing GFH tools took precedence.

I'll say now, whatever happens been an amazing Season from where we started from, secure Monkey and his Team and the future is very exciting indeed. (although have a nagging feeling there is a foreign replacement manager all lined up) Brighton have showed, however bitter you may feel, you back the Manager (they really didn't spend much) and have this collective belief your going up. Thanks to MC absolutely no reason whatsoever why we cannot do the same.

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17 Apr 2017 21:28:11
I'm finding it hard Lucas, no impossible, to find any positives from today. Unless you count being happy with 7th when the season started.

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17 Apr 2017 21:31:38
Ok what should the plan B be then? I'm dying to know as it's been mentioned many a time on here and I'm sure Gary is waiting to hear as well.

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17 Apr 2017 21:39:43
Cork we flood midfield and play two up front. At the very least we change formation to match what is happening in the match. We continue to play the same formation and expect the opposition not to realise and hope that wood can grab us a goal! If we have 4 I in front of the ball with poor cover for the defence we are only going to be able to stop a certain number of shots. But to be honest at this stage anything other than fracking 4231 is a plan b!

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17 Apr 2017 22:57:23
So three at the back is what you are saying? If we had a striker with some pace to play up with Wood that might be a plan B but to to switch to a 352 mid game with say doukara coming on up front, to me isn't going to work.

Look we all have our opinions but to blame the system is bshite. And by the way most sides in championship now play same way as us. They are not flattering us by changing the way they play to combat Leeds. As John Giles said players win games not systems.

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18 Apr 2017 09:25:06
But we are being overwhelmed in the middle which has being pointed out by many on here, and we also have roofe, he has pace or Alfonso so does he. If we don't have the players to play that system then play a system which suits the players we do have.

And in terms of not changing mid game that's what I'm saying we're doing. So on that way the opposition set up to stifle, its obvious in the first 10 minutes that it is not working so you'd stick with exactly the same thing without changing it?

Changing the game up, half time, last ten minutes is exactly what works. You need goals you put more men up front and press higher, you need to hold a lead you close up and put on defensive players.

I will always remember watching and Chelsea vs arsenal match, Chelsea needed 2 in the last 10 minutes, they played 2 at the back, brought on 4 strikers totally overwhelmed arsenal, they hadn't a clue how to cope and by god, Chelsea got three goals!

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18 Apr 2017 16:36:59
Didn't Monk bring on a forward for Bridcutt on Monday with half hour to go? I really don't believe we have the necessary players to change the system in a forward sense. We have little pace and I include roofe in that. O'Kane for Hernandez will give us more industry in midfield but then we are losing the most creative player.

Personally i'd play Viera and O'Kane as they don't play too deep and are more forward thinking. Confidence is low and players not performing as they can imo. Don't believe it's is the system and that we've been sussed out but we just need to get back to our best quick or we could be back in championship again next season.

But we are going up this year. Ayling is going to get forward quicker and more often. OKane and Viera will drive us on. Hernandez and roofe will become their creative best again. New Spanish geezer will demand the ball more. And Chris Wood will do what he does best. Things can change so quick in football, even in a week. MOT

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18 Apr 2017 19:48:55
Well cork me and you can disagree with each other as much as we like, but you and I both know that monk is the only man who can change it. he did bring sakho on for bridcutt, but you're telling me that he was brought and the formation changed, or did the formation remain and a personnel swap?

There certainly was a marked improvement going forward following this, but it took 55 minutes to do anything and when we need a goal players were pumped forward in the manner that really required.

Even monk today has come out and said we've been playing defensive and within ourselves. Why the bloody hell was caution thrown to the wind earlier when teams were there for the taking but we just didn't go for it? !

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17 Apr 2017 18:42:01
Time to bring back Taylor and O'Kane, maybe Doukara as well. We need some of that X Factor we're missing atm. Time to go gung ho at Burton.

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17 Apr 2017 21:56:00
Agreed, go all out from the whilstle. Scare the life out of them. Murphy will be in midfield, if they out do us there then we know we're in trouble

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17 Apr 2017 17:32:50
What's the betting dog botherers' luck runs out next week?

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17 Apr 2017 18:17:03
There's isn't luck, ours was and it's run out.

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17 Apr 2017 19:19:01
Nah it's luck pal. 1 shot in the whole game v Derby, dodgy 96th minute penalty v Preston. Next week they'll hit the bar about 3 times and Fulham will win 1-0.

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17 Apr 2017 17:32:13
Awful performance today I don't think we are good enough to get promoted this season. We are now paying the penalty for a weak transfer window in Jan

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17 Apr 2017 22:37:27
Yeah - we had a great opportunity to strengthen in January and nothing happened- Izzy Brown went to a Huddersfield and Hourihane to Villa.

The lack of quality in the central midfield has been glaringly obvious from the start of the season and frankly without Vieria we are very ordinary and predictable Look at the likes of Brentford they have Jota he's scored 9 goals from midfield and only played around 18 games.

their midfield 3 is way superior to ours - we are too reliant on Wood and our back line

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17 Apr 2017 17:03:08
Bridcutt out injured, play well. Bridcutt back in team, play crap. Coincidence?

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17 Apr 2017 17:32:01
Nope.

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17 Apr 2017 16:57:27
It's official the wheels have come off

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17 Apr 2017 17:22:27
Let's all try and be calm and positive, 3 games to go, 3 wins and we're back in. we can do it. I believe!

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17 Apr 2017 16:52:31
Wingers and midfielders coming out of our ears and not an ounce of creativity

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17 Apr 2017 22:24:30
Agreed

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17 Apr 2017 15:43:06
This is unacceptable! I am starting to doubt the gospel according to Monk!

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17 Apr 2017 21:29:21
Feels like a onetrick pony

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17 Apr 2017 15:06:50
Fulham bar stewards, Wednesday bar stewards.

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17 Apr 2017 13:31:27
Obviously we want a win today plus I assume a booking for Jannson.

The key questions are:
1. Can we pick up anymore points without him in the back four?

2. Is it better to make sure of top six and hope he doesn't pick up another yellow before the final (if we get there)?

I don't think we will get through any of the play off rounds without him but we may need another few points from the last three games. Interesting call.

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17 Apr 2017 10:58:20
Sheffield United singing the Pontus Jansson song now about one of their centre halves! They think they've created it, don't realise they've nicked it from us.

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17 Apr 2017 10:43:45
Score prediction for today lads and lasses?

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17 Apr 2017 13:16:02
2-0 Roofe or Pedraza first goal

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17 Apr 2017 14:40:50
Don't shoot me but 1-1.

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17 Apr 2017 15:44:28
1-0 wolves

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