Leeds Banter Archive August 17 2013

 

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17 Aug 2013 22:19:48
Think we need to let go of Varney, Pugh, Norris, Green and White. Too many central midfielders and ordinary centre forwards.
Once a few are out I believe, as does everyone else, we need a centre back and winger.
Matt Mills the obvious choice at centre back and I'd personally have a look at Tomlin from P'borough, can play up front and on the wing. Also previously mentioned GMS and Rowe would be excellent.
Wpuld love to get evryones opinion. {Ed013's Note - Green needs to stay}

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Agree with you there ed to be fair to green think he's carrying a bit of a injury went of today at half time so let's see how he goes under mcdermott over the next few weeks.

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18 Aug 2013 08:33:30
GMS was a fake twitter rumour, been told by peterborough we have no chance of Rowe and for Tomlin they want a stupidly high fee (well for all their players they do p'boro seem to love inflating prices) and I agree with ed we should keep green he's a good assest but I also agree we are in dire need of wingers and a new centre back but as we know we need to sell to buy and it seems the problem is players either don't want to leave or we can't find clubs to take them.

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Is Green injured or does BMcD blame him for giving away the goal yesterday?

Was impressed with Tonge's contribution perhaps he can now prove himself over Green (IMHO)

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Green was injured, but Warnock was to blame for the goal, came off his post

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Green is once again being played out of position, he is no winger. Play him centrally and he will do a good job. Austin and murphy are filling his role at the moment. Green should definitely stay, only a matter of time before Austin is suspended. Stop slating green>

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Agree that Green needs to stay. One of better players last season and will do a good job again this time. Personally I think he's a better player than Austin although the two can play in the same team to give us a solid base.

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17 Aug 2013 22:10:51
Not convinced Rossco will stay after his interview today. He wants to stay, Mac wants him to stay, but GFH will ultimately make the decision. We need Diouf & Norris off the wage bill sharpish and allow Brian to get another 2 in

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What did he say in the interview?

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17 Aug 2013 22:01:21
Been to the game today and called for a few bevvy's afterwards so got home a bit later than usual, however I went straight onto this site and looked down all the comments from fans who were there, fans who watched on tv and fans who couldn't do either, I am amazed how different people's perspective are on each player
ie- Poleon was c**p, Poleon was brilliant
Ross was rubbish, Ross got MOTM
Rudy was all over, Rudy was amazing
These are all comments taken off this site alone, every person is allowed their own views and comments but what we have to realise is we are all here for one thing alone and that is LUFC, get behind the lads on matchdays ladies and gents, we haven't got the money some clubs have but one day the dream will return.

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17 Aug 2013 21:39:42
Watched the match today not sure it was the same match as some on here looking at the comments, first half poor, second half much better and mostly Leeds, great energy but didn't have any creativity within the team in final third . McCormack lees murphy good quality, Austin in my opinion is our main man right now good start to the season and is holding the team together . 2or three good signings and we are right in there . can't fault the teams effort that's are best asset . everyone deserved the shirt again today. win lose or draw that's why I've been a white for 50 years

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17 Aug 2013 20:46:01
ed? correct me if i'm wrong is morrison on season long loan? if so couldn't we just sell him for 1.5 mill to 2mill and save selling other squad players also thought it was two points dropped today but still solid start to season {Ed013's Note - Mate I doubt you would get 500k for him. What ever his value, Millwall can't afford him}

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Nowhere near worth half as much as that, tbf thow I would have kept him as opposed to hunt and maybe even smith too seeing as he's a pointless player for us given our style(but well see he could b good)

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I think mcd bought smith to fit with his ''win ugly'' philosophy he spoke of prior to the season starting, he seems to bring smith on at around 70 mins every game and we start to play more long balls its not a bad thing but could get very predictable over the course of the season. And Morison was valued at £2m according to Warnock and Norwich so I think we should get at least 750k for him maybe more but I think the Becchio/Morison swap is the most pointless transfer to happen in years hasn't worked out well for either player or club

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17 Aug 2013 20:09:22
It wasn't the best of performances today, this Present team will have problems putting bums on seats for home games, we are still 2/3 quality players from a promotion team, Poleon goes to ground to easy, and McCormack is having to work to hard to receive the ball, Pace and Flair are missing with abundance, with a decent winger McCormack will get a hatfull of goals and Smith would also benifit with some decent crosses in.

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Totally agree. if we just had 2/3 more players. We will meet much better sides than today and will struggle because we lack creativity and a good striker.

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Smith just isn't very good full stop

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Why isn't smith any good then please don't tell me that your judging him on 20 minutes here and there of the bench give the lad a chance can tell it means a lot to him to play for a club like us

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17 Aug 2013 20:00:37
Why are people talking so much nonesense about players been such class in the squad? We're in the championship and not one premier league club has made a bid or enquired about any of our players just paper talk and possibly interest. We need to get real, we aren't going up and aren't reaching the play offs. Qpr and Wigan are beating premiership sides to the signing of players, could we do that? NO. We're not an appealing club to any quality player.

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17 Aug 2013 21:35:52
Sure we beat west ham to sign warnock

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Wigan and qpr have good financial backing nevermind the windfall payments they can attract prem players cus they can pay the wages simple as that

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And further to that no clubs in the championship are attractive to quality players obv everyone wants to play in the prem, u can only try

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18 Aug 2013 22:28:52
We beat west ham to warnock because of the length contract we was offering, and if you look at the financial Backing of Wigan and qpr or look on their forums they state that they also need to sell to bring in.

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17 Aug 2013 19:00:07
With a fully fit Matt Mills missing the Bolton game again today you have to question is this deal all but lined up: Leeds United appear to be waiting to finalise the release of 1 player (Aiden White - Blackpool) in order for GFH to release the needed funds (roughly £700,000).
After this BM will turn his attention to a winger, with GFH willing to fund 1 more player, however Brian will once again have to wait for a player to leave, with Leeds willing to listen to offers for El Hadji Diouf.

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Negotiating his wages should be a laugh then i'm sure whites wages will cover his 25k a week lol

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17 Aug 2013 18:51:05
Cudnt go to game today so had to listen to radio leeds and can I just say how annoying Ben Parkers voice is had to turn it off after 10 mins with him talking rubbish anyone would think he was a leeds first team legend! He was terrible

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17 Aug 2013 18:29:30
Poleon is rapid isn't he! He is dangerous and a good outlet. Clearly got ability. Today though he was naive and inexperienced. Kept trying to do too much. Not releasing the ball at right time or quickly enough, getting the ball stuck under his feet, running into corners and trying too many tricks. Reminded me of a poor mans Zaha. Temperament also a bit suspect. A good prospect though if he can learn the game. Good desire as well. Offered more than Hunt- not sure about him as a signing.

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17 Aug 2013 19:55:09
Yes but Noel hunt was signed by McDermott for a reason, poleon is fast but if you look at his first touch it is definitely not good enough. Noel hunt was one of Brian's best players in the year reading were promoted so for free why would he turn his head away from coaching him again. McCormack has to stay with green, white and Norris needing to be sold. Paul green is and always has been terrible.

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You're joking me Poleon is a very poor player he's completely headless.

I admire the mans energy and desire but in all fairness he has very little football ability.

I know a lot of people will stand up for him because he's only a young lad and came through the youth team but be realistic and honest he didn't put one foot right today.

On the up side 3 games in unbeaten and 5 points delighted with that.

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I think a few of you are being a bit harsh on Poleon I admit he is not the most gifted player on the planet but at least he put a shift in today, he ran for lost causes and pestered their defence to the point of getting free kicks and considering the Wed's defence alone are 18 foot tall for that he deserves credit

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Id rather have poleon instead of hunt, he truly is poor his best season for reading that people talk about consisted of what 10 goals in like 40 games, I can't believe that bmd genuinely expected to have to start hunt, dunno what he was thinking bring Morrison back instead:s?

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Bring morison back yeah right you clearly never watched him play in a leeds shirt never wanted to be at the club in the first place we don't want or need players like that good riddance.

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Well you have no clue about Paul green. Yes he made a mistake today but he is one of the better players at the club. Always gives 100% effort and Is up and down the pitch. Austin, murphy and green are out best midfielders by miles

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5th post:i reely hate the tendency for people to get tore into what people say, especially the "clearly you. " the only thing that's clear here is u have no idea what games I've seen and obviously I have or I wudent say that right?. more to the point Morrison hadent played all season was brought in a fired right into the squad and was basically expected to carry on becchios scoring no wonder he way have been pissed off, so why would bring in arguably a worse player and loan him out to a rival (I imagine milwall won't be paying all his wages?) I've have steve playing everytime over hunt there records speak for themselves

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Yeah mate you no nothing if morison is had good has you say he is then why are millwall fans already wanting us to take him back get to a game once in a while

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17 Aug 2013 18:11:06
When are Leeds fans going to learn to leave Dave Jones alone? When are we ever going to learn and move on? Surely surely the football should do the talking .

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You're right football should do the talking but what's wrong with the terracing shouts and chants they add to the game and sometimes make it better.

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Totally agree - love love love the banter (our banter), which make me laugh, love the singing . just get depressed when it becomes unnecessary. As the late, great Bill Shankly (I think) said '
Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.

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17 Aug 2013 16:40:59
Clear we're missing some extra quality. Pretty poor today, expect to beat Wednesday! On the plus side, my source tells me Matt Mills has verbally agreed to join Leeds United. McDermott waiting for green light from owners. Seems like Blackpool have improved their bid for Aidy White who wasn't in the team at all today.

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17 Aug 2013 16:23:44
I know by the time we get to the prem we will have a diff team. We will need it. You watching norwich everton? Bloody good football. Quick and skillfull.

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Why are you always negative where 3 games into the league ffs give the lads a chance and the manager it will come good for us we have the right man in charge

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Why are you having a go at the original poster- he is just saying it how he saw it. If he said we are a good team after a good display you wouldn't comain would you? So why complain after a realistic conclusion- based on what we have seen this far this season we need that extra bit if quality. That was very evident today. No one is having a go the commitment, the management or being unnecessarily negative. It's just a realistic assessment. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it incorrect.

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17 Aug 2013 18:58:58
Realists always get slated on here! You got to have white eyeballs and cheer for Leeds and ignore what's really going on. Leeds are the greatest?

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All ausman does is moan look down the page stop sticking up for him where 3 games in and he is already been doom and gloom

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No we are not. and todays game proved it

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17 Aug 2013 15:55:44
Watched today's game on TV,

We need 2 - 3 more signings of quality and I'm certain BMcD knows this. Hope we can shift some fringe players out, Pugh, Norris, and I would let Varney go.

Poleon worked hard, some nice touches but he has a lot to learn as doesn't release ball early, naive a tad, but the more he plays in first team he will improve.

Young Murphy is a class signing, he seems to have settled in well and looks like a proper midfield grafter.

Ross goal was sheer class, if we sell him then that's a sad day for Leeds United.

Thought Rudy had very good game, no pace though, still broke up their play very well.
Defence and Paddy held it together and look more assured than last season under Warnock.
Hope we hang on to Diouf as he has always served us well when he is fit, which he isn't as had little game time today.

Jury is still out on Matt Smith and Green was really bad today.
More creativity in the squad and games like today's would have been 3 points easy. Here's hoping.
C'MON LEEDS UNITED

MOT

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I would say we need a creative, pacy winger who would dictate our play, produce quality crosses and make good runs. That was shown today because at the moment we have mccormack on the wing who although is playing well he could probably score more goals in a central role and that is what he wants. Our crosses were quite poor as well today. Peltier makes good runs as a wing back but his final ball is not good enough. This is the reason why we create so few chances and score so few goals. Because we have no creativity. Mccormack, green and peltier shouldn't have to be our wingers and main crossers because half the time they come in for criticisms they do not deserve.
I also think a centre back with the strength of Austin is needed then we would almost certainly stop all shots and end up with a lot of clean sheets. They do say when your not conceding your not losing.
I would not mind sacrificing el hadji diouf just because his fitness is quite clearly not good enough. He looked worn out after coming on as a substitute. I did think before today we should never sell him but his fitness and the fact that other players are showing better quality then what he showed last year. A few squad players could leave. Norris, drury, varney and hall would generate good funds to ensure quality acquisitions

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Spot on though I think smith will be good asset.
Watford reading forest have goals galore in them . More scorers needed. Shrew leeds

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Varney did really well today though, why get rid of him

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17 Aug 2013 15:26:55
Fair result today for both teams. Impressed with Mccormack, Polean and Peltier and Tom Lees. Thought we could have stole the game if we had a left winger as their man Buxton was there for the taking.

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Rosco did nothing apart from the goal {Ed013's Note - Got MOTM though}

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Thought McCormack was quite good today myself. Thought some of his touches were first class.

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"Rosco did nothing apart from the goal {Ed013's Note - Got MOTM though}"

To be honest I thought he'd be taken off at half time as he hadn't done much up till then?

Still don't know how he got MOTM Ed? {Ed013 - it was Rudy for me}

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MURPHY FOR ME.

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17 Aug 2013 14:40:05
Thought Rudy was brilliant today and Rossco too. Solid start, would have been nice to get all 3 points but its good to be unbeaten!

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U being serious? honestly I thought that game was pretty rubbish ha I dunno where bmd sees when he says were playing good passing foottball we don't play like that, the ball gets pumped upfield far too often and alas. the unchanged defence is still as poor as its been for a while now

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17 Aug 2013 15:37:30
I thought he was rubbish
2 good tackles and a lot of tracking back due to hos wayward passes. Great passion. Poor ability

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Your going to say we played rubbish aren't you especially when your sat at home watching it instead of actually been there get a grip and get behind brian stop finding negatives all the time

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Dont know how anyone can say we were shocking fans need to wake up and realise where not going to hammer everyteam we play same old though with are fans the bates stay aways still haven't returned what's your excuse now!

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The game wasn't great although better than the dross last week. I just thought Rudy was all over the park. I kept an eye on him as he was a disappointment last season. We need more quality without a doubt and we probably need a box goal poacher as our forwards game is more outside the box. Without playing great we are unbeaten and I think it's an ok start

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17 Aug 2013 14:39:11
More of a FACT than a rumour.
Paul Green is absolute dogsh#t.
LUFCMatt

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Great way to support your own players is that how many games have we played and fans are already calling players this and that what a disgrace {Ed013's Note - At the games the fans are fully behind the team, they even clapped them off at half time today losing 1-0}

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Im not on about at games ed i'm talking about the stick some players get on this site where has the give players a chance gone leeds fans need to stop taking the piss out of there own players makes my blood boil {Ed013's Note - Fair play mate, support the team}

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17 Aug 2013 14:27:21
McCormack is worth 5 million!

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17 Aug 2013 14:26:18
Thanks all for your help with stream tips. Caught my first game under mcdermot. A bit disappointed. Team didn't really gel. I think they all showed heart without really playing well. First half was rubbish, second half ok. I actually thought sheff had more threat about them going forward. Thought they could have won the game.
Pluses
Kenny. Although not great, he does seem to save us regularly. Could do with defenders helping out.
Warnock. I've always liked him and was solid
Tongue. Always positive and better than green
Mccormack. I have slagged him off for not being prolific. He was best player on the pitch and what s corker. Well done
Poleon. Worked hard and will be a brill player by end of season. Needs to work on final ball
Thought austin and murphy were a disappointment and think we need cb. Winger, striker and poss another midfield general. A draw against wed not good enough

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I thought Peltier played very well. Only mentioned it because he gets a lot of criticism. You can't win 'em all but at least we're undefeated. Great goal by Ross

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Austin disappointing? Were you watching the right game?

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Thought peltier was good too and he got hit a few times. Austin was good I thought and tonge was improved

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17 Aug 2013 14:18:23
Watch Gabriel Torje on you tube scores some stunners.

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Wish fans wouldn't judge a player from youtube clips any player can make themselves look good

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Habibou is a prime example of this

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17 Aug 2013 14:15:43
Good hardworking defensive team but we just don't have enough creative quality. Simple to see. Shrew leeds

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17 Aug 2013 14:14:44
Man of the match and he's very happy at Leeds United. In the word's of Jackson Browne 'Oh won't you stay just a little bit longer?'

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17 Aug 2013 14:13:00
Just watched the game on TV and have too say that its very difficult to win games when you're playing against 12!

Thought the referee was very poor and he's supposed to be Premiership quality.

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Looked ok to me. Lucky shef didn't get penalty for hand ball

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Poleon needs a new shirt, buxton trying all game to pull it off him! barnsley white

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Lucky? don't be silly, no referee wouldve given that 'handball'

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Ref was on there side no doubt

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17 Aug 2013 13:42:39
Would you look at Ross McCormack kissing the shirt. Let us hope he is not going anywhere :o)

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You can tell Ross doesn't want to go, will have to see what GFH think

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17 Aug 2013 13:34:48
You beauty mcc

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17 Aug 2013 13:15:13
What on earth are Warnock and Green doing!

The Weds goal; Warnock attacked the cross and left the post 1 - 0

On another occasion Warnock again left the post but, got away with it.

One further cross and both Warnock and Green got in each others way, free header for Antonio and luckily we got away with it, COME ON - GET A GRIP

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17 Aug 2013 10:59:42
Just for information, for those of us who can't get to the match today AND can't afford the tv package you can watch the match live on tv2 channel 121, please note, this is just for today.
CAB

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17 Aug 2013 10:20:27
Today's game is on freeview channel pick tv incase no one has tv today only

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17 Aug 2013 10:04:58
Clean sheet again today and three points, Dioufy to make a late appearance and notch today. Come on Leeds :o)

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17 Aug 2013 01:17:07
Ross McCormack leaving after all

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16 Aug 2013 23:33:23
Can everyone watch R.I.P GARY SPEED MBE - A TRIBUTE if you havnt seen already. What a true and proper LEGEND. Not just Leeds but a true and proper football legend and there ain't too many of them! i'm sure all football fans would agree. Still got a lump in my throat typing this post. A gentleman and a properly respected player.

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