Leeds Banter Archive August 17 2016

 

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17 Aug 2016 20:03:43
reading the posts below does anyone else think Leeds4alongtime has been possed by George? and George has been possed by Speedy or wex?

spooky things going on at ER we buy players then this.

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17 Aug 2016 23:13:25
What the hell are you talking about?

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17 Aug 2016 23:45:03
leeds for a long time is proper having a go and being negitive which is unlike him so maybe he is gorge and george is being positive which is unlike him so maybe he is you. if you put the whip down and thought about it for a second you would of worked this one out.

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18 Aug 2016 00:17:58
There are many reasons to be positive Berm but I must caution you. It seems raiding Speedyg drinks cabinet does not work well for you.

Speedyg, what have you got your lover drinking?

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{Ed003's Note - oh god this could not end well *or deleted }

18 Aug 2016 00:46:00
i agree george reasons to be happy and not just because speedy is packing brandy and toilet duck in his dirnks cabent.

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18 Aug 2016 08:08:55
It's those tablets he puts in Bermondsey's drink.

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18 Aug 2016 08:33:09
Well my excuse is that I'd no idea what the word 'possed' meant. Never head of it. And I have to put tablets in MY drink when I meet BW!

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18 Aug 2016 11:03:34
po-sess-ed like in exocist come on speedy you know I can't spell gud or proper

and we all know what tablets you try and use when I am about don't we?

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18 Aug 2016 11:24:50
I just don't think he's getting it regularly BW. Saying that, neither am I with Mrs Mick- but that's a good thing!

MM.

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18 Aug 2016 11:50:21
BW You are seeing things that any sane person would call delusional. 1 point from 9 is not reason to be cheerful. 4 long time is assessing the situition realistically, we've played 3 games in the league and have been second best in all of them. Our only victory was by beating a league 1 side on penalties. The only positive is if the rumours of a takeover become reality. Wendy have an injury crisis but we go there in hope rather than confidence. No doubt you will see a 4-0 victory.

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18 Aug 2016 13:12:01
Deda

The reason to be cheerful though is the window we've had with still some 2 weeks to go is surely the best window in the history of our club.

With Birdcage re-signing and the tall Swede, looking at our first team we are only 1 centre forward short of a very potent team on paper. Monk will get the best out of this team and Cellino with zero help from GFH has put hand deep in pocket. I realize we only have 1 point in the league but this is going to improve now. Once Birdcage is firing on all cylinders I don't expect us to concede 3 goals in a league game very often if at all.

Love Cellino love Leeds love wex love George love Mrs Integrity.

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18 Aug 2016 15:43:56
There's a whole lotta loving going on on that post Georgie Boy and it's a good post to boot. Yes, we have only got 1 point from 9 but the influx of players is giving us reason to be optimistic. Cellino has put his hand in his pocket, pulled out a decent wedge and said to hell with the tax man and spent it on decent players. I think when this team gels we'll we up there.

Jansson and Birdy for me could make a huge difference with immediate effect.

MM.

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18 Aug 2016 17:01:21
George

The best window in the club's history would be 89-90 when we got players who took us out of this league. Monk has so far brought 10 players some will work for us some won't. MM as far as Cellino putting his hand in his pocket, how much have we spent on players net. We got £6 million for Cook and we've spent less than that on players. Most of the players we have got are on loan. Monk has done one thing right and has identified the players who can't take us forward. Time will tell if he will be successful. Hope he does it, don't want another season where we have managerial changes.

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18 Aug 2016 17:25:54
Deda

Not so re 89 90 window since the "window" was only introduced about 20 years ago. You refer to events over a quarter of century ago. Therefore I am correct.

Best window in history of club. Maybe more to come. Love Cellino love wex love George!

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18 Aug 2016 17:26:46
cracking post George, i'm loving the positiveness. have always been a glass full kind of bloke (even in dark times) but with these recent additions when monk works out his strongest side (he still doesn't know it yet) , this team and squad is going to click into gear soon I reckon. we've now hopefully got 3 decent cb's to protect green, a batty in birdcage (every team needs one) , pace, width and once we start scoring the confidence will soar and we'll be on our way i'm sure of it MOT.

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18 Aug 2016 17:31:29
Deda, we may have spent less than the money received from Cook but at least Cellino has spent money. I thought Roofe was £3m, Bridcutt circa £1m and Jansson has a value of £3.6m if we sign him and there's no reason to believe we won't. OK, I'll re-phrase it "at least Cellino is re-investing in the team. "

The point I'm making here is when did we ever in recent years re-invest the money we received from player sales under previous chairmen?

MM.

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18 Aug 2016 18:49:09
George is correct

89-90 was not a window so it is very easy to argue this is best window ever. I would say 90-91 (Lukic, mcaliaster, white, etc) was best closed season ever as it took us from 2nd division champs to fourth in top league (also 89 chapman was big signing and he wasnt pre season) either way if we have to go back to when I was 6 it is safe to say best window for a while.

Deda I know I am optomistic but lots of other sane (well as sane as leeds fan can be) see the same as me. yes 1-9 is crap, however look at the players, the manager and the potential to get better. rome wasnt built in a day and this team won't gel in a day but it has the potnetial to be as good as anyone at this level something we have not been since 89-90. everything is looking very good to me and many agree. I hope I am right and MOT.

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{Ed001's Note - you might want to reword that, as you seem to be suggesting you are sane. We all know that you are about as close to sane as I am to overtaking Bill Gates as the world's wealthiest man....}

18 Aug 2016 19:25:22
Too true Ed001.

Any history of insanity in the family?

Hang on I'll just cross out the in.

Any history of sanity in the family?

None whatsoever.

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17 Aug 2016 18:11:56
Good posts re Wood below guys.

Was at game on Tuesday and who can blame him doing that after all the stick he gets.

I think fans (not just Leeds fans but we are pretty bad at this) tend to pick on certain players and always look for a reason to slag them off, just the way it is and sometimes it is the players fault but sometimes not.

Wood is an easy target cause he often doesn't seem to do much but I don't boo him when he misses an easy chance (just hold my head/ shake it etc) cause he will then get worst and that don't help us.

Fans pay money and can boo own players up to them but I won't do it, players need to feel at home at ER and we do have great support when we get behind team (it was really good on tuesday, support seemed better than the 28000 on Saturday in my opinion) .

Having said that fulham were better than us in midfield as they just passed through and around us, felt monk should have sorted that at HT as it was pretty clear we were getting overrun in that area.

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17 Aug 2016 19:06:15
"Wood is an easy target cause he often doesn't seem to do much"

Correction:

Wood is an easy target cause he often doesn't do much other than miss sitting goals!

It doesn't 'seem like' it's a fact! If you take away the penalties, where would he be?

I read somewhere else that Clough bought him for Leicester and then sold him again, no wonder.

We let Antenucci leave, and in my opinion he was a decent player, very usefull for a backup at the least?

And don't get me started on Green.

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17 Aug 2016 20:05:10
Try jumping on the Leeds positivity wagon - look for the good - this will be our season - it's going to be fantastic - few tweaks and get that teamwork going and everyone will fear us. Your entitled to your oppinion but please try and find something positive - we can all slag players (and I have taken the 'p' myself ) but I am a changed person and positivity shall reign supreme. MOT anyway it's even softened the blow first few matches😂.

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17 Aug 2016 21:17:57
agree PPeacock and even if it ain't our year we all love leeds and marching on together not marching on togther if winning and bitching if losing and slating top scorer regardless.

as long as the team is showing some progress I am happy and if not I support them all the more as they need the support even more.

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18 Aug 2016 17:02:27
First time in ages I have felt positive at the start of a season.
Under Monk this is a work in progress, Cellino seems to be allowing him to but who Monk wants and I think he has made some good buys. A new team needs time to bed in, could have done with a friendlies but I think we will get there.
I am hoping for Play off but if we were fighting at the top end come to the last game this year that would be good.

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17 Aug 2016 17:33:55
What due diligence? Whose?

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18 Aug 2016 13:59:23
thats what I wondered.

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17 Aug 2016 13:56:58
Its really hard to judge how well we are doing this season. as it transpires, I think the teams we have played have all started well and are looking like they will all be in the mix come the end of the season (maybe not the brums so much) .
Do you think we have played some of the best or some of the worst so far this year?
Maybe the standard is really high throughout the league?

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17 Aug 2016 16:38:17
Its always a high standard, and usually unpredictable, league tbf Alf. That said I think all the teams we have played so far have been beatable and I wouldn't peg any of them for promotion. We are doing poorly, basically, however the fact remains that we have brought in 9 new players with a further 2 on the verge of joining, if the rumour mill is accurate, that's a full new starting squad. Expecting them to walk on to the pitch and play well together for a full 90 straight away is naive.
I would say look at the squad at the end of september for a better picture. Transfers will have stopped, a starting 11 will have been cemented, the players will have got used to each other and the system. Personally I think we have a stronger squad than last season, they just need a little time together.

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17 Aug 2016 17:07:39
agree we have not played well but given time will play good football and get results, I think if near top ten at xmas we will go on run and end up top 6. if we click we can beat anyone in this league.

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17 Aug 2016 13:04:18
Any idea what is happening with the Goalkeeping position? We have one of the most sought after GK in the division in Peacock-Farrel. Green doesn't seem up to it and Turnbull is on the bench.
Green was supposed to give us confidence, I haven't seen that so far!
We have 4 Keepers who would you play?
Any thoughts.

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17 Aug 2016 13:48:08
i was hoping that we would see more of Peacock this year really, especially when he signed a new deal with us.

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17 Aug 2016 13:58:10
peacock on loan, don't rate turnbull and very few starts in leeds shirt have been quite poor all round (all though not really enough to state) let green and silvestri fight it out. green needs bit of time and silvestri the best shot stopper in the league on his day he wins us points and saves us more than he costs us. at very least play him and sell him otherwise his value will go down, then silv has to do well or green comes back in.

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17 Aug 2016 14:23:34
I take it u didn't watch the game yesterday, green kept us in it for most the game, and weren't a lot he could for their goal, was a good goal, bridcutt will protect the back 4 and take the strain off green, but he's still a quality signing.

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17 Aug 2016 15:10:23
I missed last night need to catch up with the highlights. I thought he was a quality signing but even at Peterborough in a friendly looked shakey. Green cost us in the opener and didn't impress against Brum.
I think its worth giving Peacock-Farrell a go, he looked good last year an we have always given young keepers a go with success in the past.

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17 Aug 2016 16:44:24
Green went 6 months without a game before joining us Whitey so he is bound to have a little rust to shake off, he is looking better every game so I would stick with him for now (with Peacock-Farrell either as No2 or get him out on loan before the window closes so he can get some game time) . Also to be fair to Green, he must be a bag of nerves what with some of the 'defending' going on in front of him.

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17 Aug 2016 17:08:49
i have to say I didn't watch the game, I thought/ think he was a good signing and can do well but I also really rated silvestri and think he won us more than he cost us.

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17 Aug 2016 17:24:26
True Gummie he be with the defending in front but no more than Silvestri last year and he has had his fair share of grief.
Personally he should be a good signing but m just concerned that we let another good keeper slip through our fingers.

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17 Aug 2016 19:09:15
I think you should be more concerned that we have already let another decent goalkeeper (Silvestri) slip through our fingers.

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18 Aug 2016 14:02:36
I have only managed to get to the Atalanta pre-season game so far this year due to work but I thought Greeny played well in that game and kept us in the game with a few brilliant saves. I think he will come good.

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17 Aug 2016 12:19:54
Wood seems to have done it again. He has a stinker and when you're asking why is he still on the pitch he scores a very good goal. Unfortunately one wonder goal a season, surrounded by woeful performances, isn't good enough. I didn't like his gesture to the Kop either after he scored said a lot. I don't think has a great depth of feeling for the fans after the criticism he has received of late - even though its well deserved. Varney went that way when he took great exception to the behaviour of elements of the fans during the Sheffield Wednesday game at Hillsborough a couple of seasons ago. His heart didn't seem in it after that. Wood might be the same but for different reasons. Whatever the reason he has been vry poor and we need much better.

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17 Aug 2016 13:50:56
we probably need to give him more of a chance. he is a good player and a goalscorer but he had woeful service (plus an injury) last season and hasn't really had much chance to get into his stride yet this season. if we encourage players rather than get on their backs we might see more from them. wood is a better player than we have seen so far and with good service and a decent partner will be able to flourish at this level.

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17 Aug 2016 14:00:13
agree to an extent but you can not put vardy and wood in same catagory, for a start wood was our top scorer yet we act like he was not, yes he does miss some but is proven quality and is top scorer and will be again this season, did vardy ever score for us? in a poorer leeds team vardy was not where near top scorer. this all said I can see vaild points to this post and can certainly see where you are coming from.

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17 Aug 2016 16:27:14
I don't agree with booing a player. Who is this going to help? Players and particularly strikers are all about confidence and if the fans are giving you s***e then this isn't going to help confidence.

He might not be world class but I still think we are better with Wood in the team. Look at last season when he was out injured - we sorely missed him then and the people that slate him would do well to remember this.

The lad is on fire for New Zealand, but then again he probably plays with a confidence he's never had at ER.

Having said all of that, I'm still backing him to hit a purple patch and bag a shed load and when he does I'd be happy to see him celebrate in the same way as he did last night.

Never boo one of your own - end of!

MM.

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17 Aug 2016 16:58:07
Wood getting stick from 20k+ supporters plus however many more on social media for the last few weeks yet his reaction is going too far? seriously?
He is a confidence striker, when the crowd get behind him and he scores 1 he will, more often than not, go on a run over the next handful games. If the fans keep kicking it out of him though he will a) Lose the confidence b) Lose the will and desire to try.

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17 Aug 2016 17:10:46
always backed and rated wood, think more is to come and people act like he was not top scorer last year. a fit confident wood with service and good team is worth 20 goals IMO.

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17 Aug 2016 19:21:38
"I don't agree with booing a player. Who is this going to help? "

Unfortunately some players I have watched play football deserve everything they get from the supporters who are in reality paying their wages? Do we not have any right to direct feedback where it is due?

Bamba has been dire recently, but I am more concerned how Monk has just walked into Elland Road and totally dismissed some of our 'reasonable' players, I am wondering just how many more games it will be before there is not a single 2015/ 16 player on the pitch?

Ten new players (by the sounds of it) and we have one point out of nine and a very lucky win against Fleetwood?

We expected this from Hockaday, but from Monk?

I do seriously hope this circus stops soon, after more than 45 years of supporting Leeds United I am getting to a stage when (unfortunately) I know longer get upset when we lose, how sad is that.

. and I really don't understand how anyone is 'celebrating' our first point of the season, at home to Fulham?

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18 Aug 2016 14:06:05
feedback is good but it has to be constructive feedback - booing a player or slagging someone off isn't really going to help, applauding an effort will. at the very least balance it out and applaud everything good if you are going to boo everything bad.

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17 Aug 2016 10:24:35
Press reports that we're stalling on a deal for Verboom and that his club are waiting for Leeds to finalise the deal after terms have been agreed. I hope we're not backing out of this now because Jansson is signing. We need both and we also need to cash in on Taylor. He'll be off definitely at the end of the season so we may as well get rid now and replace him with what would be a decent acquisition in Bryan Verboom-boom-shake-the-room. Then get shut of Bamba on ice and Mick's a happy bunny.

MM.

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17 Aug 2016 11:41:33
Looks that way MM. Happy we got a point but we have been the second best team in all three games and every game we have changed the team significantly. This is the same as last season and the season before. Lots of loan signings who will fade into the development squad just like Biannci and Sloth. How many loan signings are we going to get, we must have at least 6. Another season where we play more players than any other team in the league.

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17 Aug 2016 12:00:37
Think bridcutt and larsson will be key signings. Agree mm we need to get boom in and offload taylor as he is going anyway. Believe if we get defence sorted we have goals in the team. Need to be better at set pieces and corners at both ends.

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17 Aug 2016 12:36:07
Loving the Boom Boom Shake the room - instead of the La La La LA Bamba this season also got UUUUUP on the ROOOOOFE but let's hope we are not Drifters this season - think squad is improving and just hope MC keeps the faith with Monkey and let's him have a chance and allows us some stability for a change. Still optimistic at this point.

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17 Aug 2016 14:09:37
if we are going down la la la bamba and boom shake the room route I would like to add

we love Ayling (we are sailing) ,
We got the Monk (we got the funk)
Roofe is on fire (obvious)
he is black he wears white he make Ronaldo look S""Te Sacko, sacko (not sure we would get away with that but I mean it loveingly)
and f""k Off Talyor (not after any song but think it is worth a shout none the less)

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17 Aug 2016 17:07:08
Just hope that everyone is going for the coal chamber version if Roofe hits some form BW, would love to hear 20k Leeds fans belting out some guttural metal, bit more my style compared to the hip hop version.

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18 Aug 2016 14:08:54
I think the lyric was 'boom, shake, shake, shake the room'

but that's probably a bit pedantic.

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17 Aug 2016 09:58:07
Very interesting to see Cellino's reaction if we should suffer a dip in form!

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17 Aug 2016 12:26:24
What you mean if?

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17 Aug 2016 12:37:03
describe a dip with 1 point from 9.

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17 Aug 2016 13:05:48
So you think he will be OK if we're consistent and have 3 points from 27?

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17 Aug 2016 13:52:58
Monk has 3 games left to start winning.

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17 Aug 2016 14:20:07
Lads the " if we have a dip in form" was tongue in cheek.

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17 Aug 2016 18:33:46
I think every reply was tongue in cheek.

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17 Aug 2016 06:15:21
Latest is that Monk is fitting Wood with blinkers for the Wednesday game.

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17 Aug 2016 05:49:25
Lot better with Cooperin were able to play flat st the back without playing them onside. The fans were great tonight kept with the boys. Turning point?

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17 Aug 2016 09:04:23
always rated cooper as the best defender at ER last season anyway hopefully Bartly and alying also come up good and are better than cooper.

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17 Aug 2016 12:02:14
Cooper very able defender, pity he has spent most of his time carrying bamba.

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