Leeds Banter Archive March 17 2018

17 Mar 2018 21:30:03
Hire a relegation standard manager you get relegation standard results. Simple.

17 Mar 2018 22:09:34
The slide started well before he was hired! ? Can't blame him for this sorry state. We didn't even play that badly today. Just shocking defending for a few moments.

17 Mar 2018 23:30:17
Heres the truth that everyone must be able to see now - we don't have bags of cash, some dipstick decided the way to go was to get cheap players with potential and get a "coach" to make them perform hence we only employ a coach and not a manager- the lord Orta being our " manager" - this is clearly not working - we need a real manager with the power to buy his own players, if Heck is that man then ok, give him what little dosh we have and see how it goes - if not Radz needs to grow a pair and sort this mess out or sell - I've nothing against Radz, he's done some good things but something has to change and if Radz sells at least the new owner will get rid of Orta and bring in a proper team manager- we havnt got the cash but we could have a proper club structure which is what we are lacking right now with Orta running the show - rant over

18 Mar 2018 07:46:21
The whole truth too Kray, As much as AR is a good guy with good intentions his master plan is rubbish even be just be starting to see it, hopefully!

18 Mar 2018 11:05:40
Bright, he has taken us backwards with the same team TC had us in the top 6 with. He has a 19.75% win ratio in the Championship. Why do fans keep defending him?

18 Mar 2018 11:19:18
How many games without a win did TC go without a win before he was sacked? Someone remind me?

18 Mar 2018 11:36:06
6 league games, 7 if you include Newport. And we had 10 men for four of them.

18 Mar 2018 12:18:23
Now how many did Barnsley win with hecky bright? Any advance on 16?

18 Mar 2018 18:37:43
And what squad quality do Barnsley have, and how many of their better players did they sell? Is a coach supposed to be able to turn a poo shower into a successful team?

17 Mar 2018 19:44:31
At least the talk of sneaking into the top 6 has stopped.

17 Mar 2018 21:02:11
Yeah, but now we're sneaking into the bottom six! 😳😡😡😡🍻

17 Mar 2018 22:05:35
Not too sure about "sneaking" Brighty.

17 Mar 2018 19:20:03
Disappointing today but we need to learn to take our chances and tighten up defensively. Once again paying the price for not having adequate defensive cover.

17 Mar 2018 19:26:29
More like adequate defence full stop. The cover is garbage but so is the front line Pontus aside.

17 Mar 2018 20:47:22
Agree to both there. I've pointed to Pontus a few times when he's been playing poorly, but think that a one man centre back pairing makes it difficult for him. He showed last season, that alongside someone else solid, he will perform. He is prone to mistakes himself, but we seem to be making them every single game for the last 18 matches now!

17 Mar 2018 19:10:03
#phoneybottomgate #weareanagramofposhwordforbankrobberygate

17 Mar 2018 18:44:03
On another day we would have won this game, if not for silly individual mistakes and poor finishing. What chance have you got when you are beaten by route one. When one CB totally misjudges a punt up field and the other is leaned on and falls over. Bad goal to give away. At the other end a rookie loses composure at a vital time. If Hecky has faith in him then he needs lots of games, whether that's in the first team or U23s, that's another question?

17 Mar 2018 19:00:23
Which day would that be leodis?

17 Mar 2018 19:12:56
Most other days Matyn! Two mistakes have cost us again, and those mistakes at critical times are the first thing that has to change.

17 Mar 2018 19:43:59
Utter bull. There just not good enough from players to management #embarrasing

17 Mar 2018 19:48:38
Thanks Brighty yes, Whatever else your opinion of Hecky our loss today was down to individual poor decisions, at both ends of the pitch. Don't know who was supposed to be marking for the first goal but the attacker popped up unopposed to flick on for the first goal. Not one, but both Centrebacks contributed to the second goal. The test of Hecky will come in the summer when, with Ortas wheeling and dealing, will give him the chance to shape his own team.

17 Mar 2018 20:48:47
Orta shouldn't be anywhere near Leeds next season should be gone now. Radz is doing sod all about the mess he's made of our team blaming everybody else c'mon Radz wise up and get shut

17 Mar 2018 20:52:19
Is that a fact Martyn? Utter bull? Or just your opinion. Yep it is your opinion. And you can have it pal. And I will never say that your opinion is bull, fella. We battered them for the most part today, but slack defending, and slack finishing cost us the game. And for as much as you hate the gaffer, for your reasons, (again, up to you) he cannot stop players from making costly errors on a matchday.

17 Mar 2018 21:15:12
Sorry but the manager picks the players

17 Mar 2018 22:18:55
He picks the players he has available to him, Richie, yes, but did he have any say in the purchase of those players? No. Has he got much better to chose from? No. The squad is too lightweight, lacks depth and ability in many positions. We have a few very good players, but not enough. Even some of the homegrown talent have faded this season, which is all part of a confidence slip in the squad too. That is not something that started with the appointment of PH, nor can it be solved overnight.

17 Mar 2018 22:56:32
Leodis bright white we aren't true fans if we don't agree with Martin the muppets comments for what it it's worth I agree with both of you but going by the profile pic the big guy ain't ever been in a football pitch

17 Mar 2018 23:10:57
His pool of players to choose from is one of the areas of debate.

17 Mar 2018 18:13:09
I can see where the Hecky out squad are coming from but surely it's too early to make that call. The worst you can say is that he took a losing team and has not improved them, yet. Not as bad as get him out, when you think how bad they were when he took over and that non of them are his. He has had time to look at them and, reading between the lines, do not think he has much faith in many of them. Maybe he IS getting the best out of some players. It's just that their best is not good enough. I am a great believer in continuity. Surely we have given up on this season and are pretty safe from relegation so if he bloods a few young uns (Pearce played well today) and he buys wisely then let's go again next year. Yes I know, Deja Vu. How many times in seasons past has our season finished in March.

17 Mar 2018 18:25:50
Can't buy without off loading the long contract players and there's quite a few of them that need to be made available for transfer, Heckingbottom record his shocking from Barnsley to Leeds he's not the man and one other thing ORTA OUT.

17 Mar 2018 18:40:25
Did you think Pearce played well leodis? . have a look at the first goal again, how many poor passes did he make first half? . ibget he will need time, and possibly a loan move to a league one club (same as Taylor did) . But if that's the best we have coming through from the 23's then we are in trouble

17 Mar 2018 18:46:35
No, not too early. This is what experience is. Anything crap before you buy it is still crap afterwards.

17 Mar 2018 18:04:24
Don't wanna say I told ya so but I told ya so. Time to take the blinkers off bright

17 Mar 2018 18:09:00
Agree Martyn Heck is not the man needsreplacing

17 Mar 2018 18:26:02
Poor result today, yes. Should have won comfortably, as Wendies were tripe all over the park; we created enough to have won. Appears irrelevant who we play at centre back; they're all prone to being useless at times. I am as unhappy as the next fan with current form, but we do need more quality in the squad, and I still believe that the worst thing we could do is ditch another coach. Don't believe that means I'm blinkered, or even wrong for that matter. Just have a different way of thinking.

17 Mar 2018 19:05:30
If wendies were tripe then what's that make us?

17 Mar 2018 19:06:59
You've definitely got blinkers on if you thought we was better than them

17 Mar 2018 20:58:29
giving up on responding now Martyn. we were by far the better side, created more chances, had the bulk of possession, looked the most threatening in most parts, and screwed up with two costly errors that gifted them goals. No more Brightwhite fishing from here on in, because I won't be biting. I'll just go back to enjoying the banter and discussion, and ignoring pointless insults.

17 Mar 2018 17:39:00
31,638 at Elland Rd today, don't know how many were away fans but surely we don't deserve this. I said i'd give Hecky the benefit of the doubt, well i have and he's useless - get rid.

17 Mar 2018 17:45:48
Wrong manager from day 1.2 fails Christensen and Heckingbottom. No faith. DOOMED!

17 Mar 2018 17:55:03
Pmsl told ya the oven was on a low heat

17 Mar 2018 18:31:09
Marginally over 2k wendies there today. bet they can't believe their luck!

17 Mar 2018 18:49:16
Luck? No, realism! I bet they laughed all the way home!

17 Mar 2018 19:14:50
Kit. I think that's basically what I said, but with different wording. ?

17 Mar 2018 17:13:47
O'Kane "better" maybe? "done well today" not really. He has had so many chances to shine. Has he now failed his audition?

17 Mar 2018 17:12:09
This is getting beyond a joke. Major changes needed. Relegation candidates next season if Radz doesn't get this sorted?

17 Mar 2018 17:30:32
Radz get this sorted? Really? He's a mouse among lions. 2 manager 2 fails. DOOMED!

17 Mar 2018 17:45:52
Yep, you're right. there's no evidence Radz has a clue what he's doing, he now seems way out of his depth. Cellino did a real job on this guy. Do the right thing by the fans and sell on to a more appropriate custodian. And yourself a favour too before you the value plummets when in League One.

17 Mar 2018 17:04:54
We have to get rid of Hikupmebottom the blokes out of his depth, yes we have signed some s#! te but 1 lucky win since his arrival speaks volumes for his ability - His record at Barnsley wasn’t that different.

17 Mar 2018 16:24:16
Not at the game but listening on RL. Sounds like loads of chances, well on top but nobody good enough to hit back of net. Distinct lack of quality me thinks. Need to get lassie on for last half hour, Ekubank not cutting it. Watch them pinch it in last minute.

17 Mar 2018 16:55:19
You are prophetic!

17 Mar 2018 17:04:12
They were rubbish and we just weren't good enough. Could, perhaps should have had six. What's that say about these players and staff. Is rubbish the right word?

17 Mar 2018 17:23:34
Hi
Not the right phrase . "good enough". when a team is 14th and dropping like a stone. How about SH^^E! . used elsewhere. Heck wrong man from the start as I said! Money wasted to buy out his contract. thank God it wasn't my money. "When you pay peanuts you get monkeys". SIMPLE LOGIC!

17 Mar 2018 17:50:44
MartynG said he was the wrong man at the start now all you doubts are smelling the coffee !

17 Mar 2018 19:44:58
lol Metissekit you beat me to the peanuts and monkey quote! agree poor wages equals Poor players and management its become clear Radz hasn't really got the money to compete to get us out of this frustrating league! i'm 54 in June and i'm starting to realize I won't see us back in the PL in my lifetime! can only hope for investment from outside to help radz or some Billionaire money no object new owner makes Radz an offer he can't refuse, I am so fed up with this situation, had to laugh at a fans twitter response to today when he summed up being a Leeds fan is like having a terminal illness that never improves yet never reaches its conclusion. Constant suffering. nuff said really! Peace fellow leeds sufferers

17 Mar 2018 14:31:57
Great. 1 up front and he has played about 7-8 and scored errrrr 0. Never a champ striker let alone prem standard. Prove me wrong. Bag a hatrick.

17 Mar 2018 15:39:59
So far proving you right Aussie

17 Mar 2018 16:21:52
Jury’s still out on ekuban for me

17 Mar 2018 12:48:31
Hi all. Further to the recent tantrum by West Ham fans, Karen Brady has announced a number of changes to keep them happy. The one that caught my eye was "giving the manager a say in player recruitment". A nice touch I thought.

17 Mar 2018 15:57:33
Next time you're in Leeds Karen just mention it as a good idea.

17 Mar 2018 11:47:11
Just to clarify (for one person) I never said that 11 players need to be sold it's been posted on this site by other that most will be leaving my point was and is if that is the case how will Radz fund a rebuild when he has said he has no money, and that has come for himself to you and you know who you are read read the post before making assumptions

17 Mar 2018 13:34:04
Hang in there mate, just let it go over your head! I remember your posts at the beginning of the season and they were right, I think you were the first on here to question Radz and now you are not the only one! You were first to mention Radz not having a lot of money and again you are now not the only one! So for me you are a true Leeds supporter with different views just like Mezzer and many others on here, keep the honest views coming Whiteman. MOT

17 Mar 2018 13:38:34
Go whiteman, I've got your back pal.

17 Mar 2018 14:20:15
Are white and woody in love? Is martyn wanting to be the meat in the sandwich? Tune in next week to find out!

17 Mar 2018 14:59:36
Ausman you found us out one thing we do have is the love of Leeds, true Leeds fan woody, martyn

17 Mar 2018 15:01:02
Mikewoody, Martyn -g thanks

17 Mar 2018 16:46:49
Ausman you are sooooo jealous! Start being nice and we might just might let you join our affiliation! In all honesty Ausman, Whiteman, Mezzer, Martyn and a few others have all been posting comments all season that are spot on, maybe very negative in some people’s eyes but their posts are honest and they turned out to be exactly true. To me they are true Leeds supporters who say it as it is, I remember Whiteman saying at the beginning of the season that Radz isn’t all he’s made out to be and he was right, we have had many negative posts in relation to our thoughts but look at who was sadly right, we don’t take any joy at being right believe me but Whiteman, Mezzer, Martyn, and George and some others, while being very honest are true Leeds legends! MOT

17 Mar 2018 09:11:00
Morning guys! Just hoping for the bragging rights today would like to see a couple of academy lads get a game Pearce and one of the young strikers any sort of win will do today mot brothers 😎

17 Mar 2018 10:27:53
Heck needs to show he can win.

17 Mar 2018 11:07:05
He's had enough practices 24 in total

17 Mar 2018 02:35:36
Time to give Pearce a game and see if he can reach his potential and be our LB. Not over bothered if we don't win many or any of our last games of the season. Be happier to lose them but try new things ie- formation and a couple of young ones. How is jack Clarke playing and what about kun? If we can find a couple of gems from them, got to be worth risk? Then maybe not a huge overhaul, maybe 3-4 experienced players to help with young ones. Cud be BPF as number 1 but get rid of other 2 keepers, need another GK to cover. Then ailing, Pearce and Pontus ( buy imposing Cb to play with Pontus. Have cooper, beradi and Coyle as back up (defense sorted) Bring back Klich and Ideguchi and keep saiz, Forshaw, veira, Pablo and alioski. Maybe add an experienced MF and class speedy winger. Send lassoga home or if can buy for 2-3 mil then keep and work on his jumping and holding the ball and link play. May need to spend most on a proven striker and keep Ekuban and hope Roberts can be great. So 2nd GK (2-3mil) , Cb (6-8mil) , MF (4-6mil) and striker ( 6-10mil) . 12-25mil needs to be invested if Rads serious about getting promoted otherwise be a champ team for another 14 years. The rewards if getting up would be amazing and I think our 5 best may stay (Pontus, saiz, Pablo, Forshaw and vieira) if we show intent in summer. If rads not up for it or no funds, give Amanda stevley a call as no go with Toon army?

17 Mar 2018 08:36:21
Question is did AR put all his eggs in one basket. Many good man has come into football ownership with good intentions and a few quid in the bank, only to find out that running a football club is not like any other type of business. If AR has invested most of what he is prepared to do, then maybe we have a problem. We applauded him for signing up some of the better performers with long term contracts only to see them sit back and go through the motions. We may get lucky with with some of the "ones for the future", but what position as a club we will be in then is anyone's guess. AR I believe is a good guy, but his business model appears to be found wanting and the cracks have appeared, his rants lately show this. He needs to look hard and long at this problem in the summer and if he is to save his investment take action .

17 Mar 2018 10:39:46
Shadwell how we going to invest 25mill when we don't have a pot to piss in?

17 Mar 2018 10:52:17
Agree with you guys. We do not need, as some on social media are saying, a major overhaul. The exact number of new faces is the difficult decision as we don't, as yet, know the quality of the young guns. This then is more of an argument to just give up on the rest of this season and play them. If they do come good not only will it save Radz a few mill but it will put a smile on many faces. The big quandary appears to be striker. Do we keep Lassoga - looking unlikely. Do we keep faith with Ekuban/Grot - given coaching and game time will they start knocking them in. Will Roberts be the saviour - unfortunately blind gamble. or, Do we promote a young gun and try him at the coalface, see if he can hack it. To supplement all this, I agree that we should possibly look at only 3/4 seasoned pros.

17 Mar 2018 12:31:58
If we don't know the quality of the young ens by now then we're in big trouble

17 Mar 2018 22:52:10
If he hasn’t got that sort of money to invest then time to go as we will never get promoted. Silly of him to take wood’s money over 3 seasons.