Leeds Banter Archive May 18 2016

 

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18 May 2016 22:50:13
Just watched Europa Cup hoping that Klopp does not go all out to buy the best young fullback he can find. He sorely needs one.

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19 May 2016 10:21:10
yes but now just prem and cups so who would go there.

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18 May 2016 19:15:27
I did mention Chinese investment yesterday and I for one would love it regardless of character if they ploughed money into Leeds. Also bermondsey where is this video as ed said there is just a video with a fit bird with a sword no dude eating curry.

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18 May 2016 19:46:11
sorry mate wrong video, I will post the one I am in but there is no fit bird, there are two people at it in club toliets and a guy doing a very good dance but as far as totty in the video goes you will have to do with me.

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18 May 2016 21:15:57
Well I have made do before bermo, let us know so I can have chuckle.

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18 May 2016 18:20:48
Chinese investors. But Leeds don't want owners with any stains on their characters and given the human rights abuses that go on in china it would be hard to find someone to meet our standards.

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18 May 2016 18:58:29
Wex

It's not the squeaky clean we crave although a lack of human rights abuse always desirable. It's the lack of lunacy which is needed. Cellino is a lunatic aiming to prove you can enter the PL on a shoestring by only hiring a good coach but he doesn't even get that right. Just give me an owner who makes sound business decisions. I know Wex. He's a billionaire so he makes good decisions but maybe football just ain't his thing.

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18 May 2016 19:14:48
your right football is not his thing why he was only at caliagri such a short time and why it is often refered to as their golden age and the best the club has ever done, bring back bates, bring back risdale bring back the mob from the 70's who took leeds from best to relegiation, in fact apart from les silver have we ever had a good chairman?

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18 May 2016 19:41:26
Berm

You mean that golden age under Cellino during which they won zero honours? Some gold. You mean that great period culminating in Cellino arrest for stadium fraud in early 2013? Oh that golden age.

Manny Cussins was a good Chairman until he foolishly became jealous of Don Revie and lost the plot.

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18 May 2016 19:23:39
Try positivity George you'll feel better about things. Everything will be better. I imagine your house with pictures of Massimo everywhere with with darts 🎯 in his eyes it becomes obsessive. Try to say one positive thing about cellino everyday for two weeks and you will start to feel better.

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18 May 2016 19:48:23
so manny had it all and lost it, worse than someone who took over bad club and made it mediocore in my book, as for clagri they are tiny club, not every one can win stuff every week again are you an arsenal fan? look at their history their best hitory for this little club was under mc. bit like if millwall where in prem ok they might not win anything but still their golden history would you not say?

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18 May 2016 20:45:54
Wex

Positive comments about Massimo

1. He can't live forever
2. He has a fit daughter
3. He wants to sell Leeds United.

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18 May 2016 20:56:02
Not bad for your first day now I bet you feel better. Try everyday for a fortnight and Bermondsey will fall in love with you and you'll be on top of the world.

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18 May 2016 21:47:42
well I am open to suggestion and a flirt so play cards right george and you never know. also no comment on my reply about manny cousins and MC unlike you to go quite on a particular thread when points are made which are good and of different opinion to yourself.

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18 May 2016 23:39:42
Berm

I accept Manny was a fool but you can't put him in same category as MC even though he is an MC due to fact we had 3 good years under him. His major mistake was not appointing John Giles as player-manager. His appointment of Clough equalled in idiocy 40 years later by the other MC with his appointment of Hockaday.

For avoidance of doubt worst owners/ chairman of Leeds with number 1 being worst are

1. GFH
2. Cellino
3. Bates
4. Prof Mckenzie.

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19 May 2016 09:29:55
my only point is georgeif you have it all and lose it you must be more the fool than to never have nothing and then end up with slightly more than nothing? different opinions and both are fine but for me the skint millionaire is a bigger fool that the person who has always been homeless

what annoys me is you put it all as fact like yours is the only opinions that counts (for the avoidance of doubt etc) IMO our worse chairman would be

1. bates raped club put nothing into it and took a lot out
2. risdale loved club but run it so badly he put us from top team then into a hole so deep we may never recover
3. GFH not enough money, passion or ideas
4. manny cousins had it all and lost it, went on sacking managers after 21 days well before this is common place, now mc is slated for sacking managers when this guy was doing it well before the trend

I am not saying MC is great but for me he does not make top for, this is not fact, this is not for the avoidance of doubt just my opinion backed up by logic. Its not your views it is the way you put them acorss as if others are mugs when I don't think the people on here are mugs.

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19 May 2016 09:34:33
Now - you've posted some ridiculous things before Georgie (often) , but this takes the biscuit. To have Cellino above Bates. Have you completely lost the plot?
In my (humble ) opinion, Bates would be at the top of the list by a long long way. He's still part of the problem, weaving his Black Magic in the background, and hobknobbing (deliberate spelling) with Shaun as well no doubt.

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19 May 2016 13:46:11
you know what speedy for a change I agree (shall we kiss and make up and move back in together all is forgiven and forgotten WEX can sleep in the spare room) we could even have a room dedicated as a shrine to LArry.

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19 May 2016 14:01:39
Bermo

All opinions count. I recognize this. All I can do is post MY opinion.

Speedy

This is my reasoning.

GFH are simply not fit for anything. Alleged human trafficking, no money, in it for themselves, a cancer. Zero redeeming features. Awful.

Cellino just pips Bates and only just for his lunacy. Bates raped and pillaged and deceived about the ground but we did see a playoff final under his tenure. In time I hope Cellino does better than Bates.

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19 May 2016 15:43:11
BW
Yes we can kiss and make up (but no tongues)
Deffo to a shrine to Larry
Wex can kip down in the shed.

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18 May 2016 11:44:45
While it is true Cellino has foot in mouth syndrome combined with knee jerkitis and an ego the size of Italy, let's not forget what he has actually done for the club, forgotten by many in the blizzard of bad publicity. For a start we were days from administration under gfh, crippled financialyy and Cellino paid wages and bills while still negotiating. The whole business side of LUFC is now exactly that, a professional business attracting sponsors and partners. I believe his intentions are good however meandering the journey. Stick in there siblings, you never know what is around the corner.

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18 May 2016 13:22:11
Oh on! George is not going to like that vid mate! Tut tut!
I agree with you though.

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18 May 2016 13:59:21
I appreciate what he has done for the club but still feel it might be best if he now moves on. This is the second time he has come out and said he regretted buying the club, or something similar, and I just don't think his heart is with us anymore and he just gives off that air of not being bothered about the club at times. I get the feeling that he didn't quite have the full picture when he bought the club as to how badly it was run and where the finances were going, with respect to ER and TA and now he has a better idea of the club its not as easy a resurrection job as he thought. Add to that his dodgy management decisions and his ability to say completely the wrong thing at the right time and I hate to say it but I think its time for a change. As I said at the start though I appreciate what he has done to steady the ship and save the club from another administration just that it might be time for him to cash in and someone else to come in and give us that final push we need.

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18 May 2016 18:15:27
Agreed vidlufc we as fans are the first to want loyalty but like you said we were happy when he was paying the bills and he didn't even own us . He was brilliant when saving us from going bust. Now he has done all that. Its thanks and shag off.

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18 May 2016 19:02:22
Wex

Good point about paying bills prior to his takeover. Bit like that great business decision he made to axe Brian before he could. Started as he meant to carry on. Acting stupidly. All the monies we paid out we may as well have kept Brian. Wex, he's done more harm than good. Anyone should be able to see this really.

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18 May 2016 19:16:34
agree george more harm than good I love adminsitration and selling off all of our assest for peanuts and not reinvesting, he didn't save this club form either of them things as anyone can see.

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18 May 2016 20:04:52
Way he's going Berm all he achieved was to delay administration.

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18 May 2016 20:30:25
Cellino has staved off administration and he has embarrassed the league officialdom, unfortunately that doesn't make us a great club again.

. I'm not a lover, but until someone puts their money where there mouth is we are stuck with him?

Rather Cellino than Bates, though ANY DAY!

Leeds4alongtime!

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19 May 2016 09:32:22
well goegre yet again you have stuck kinife in before it has happened. innocent before guiolty again mr law.

Even if we do go admin which I don't think we will he has delyaed it which is better surely. when someone is terminally ill health care try and delay the death they are parised for this so delaying the inveiatble still needs to be applauded in my book.

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18 May 2016 10:56:10
China is paying silly money for stars who have seen better days and their President has vowed to win the World Cup by next year, So.
If I were Massimo I would get all my sales team (inc Commercial Director) onto a plane to Beijing. If he is serious about wanting to sell then a country with so many Billionaires, and still growing, is where he should be.

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18 May 2016 11:22:23
I'm probably a very lone voice saying this (but it's never stopped me before) . I was never totally opposed to the Red Bull idea when those rumours were floating around.

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18 May 2016 12:34:07
for a change I agree think red bull are big world wide brand and would not be opposed to being linked with them and spending their money.

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18 May 2016 12:49:16
Leodis. China, haven't really thought about it, could work.

Speedy. Red Bull are a brand and, if the rumours were true, they would want the best for our beloved LU. It can't see them being successful in changing our name, look at the Hull Tigers, they tried, they failed. Changing our fantastic stadium name and even better kit would be a real possibility. But if it meant being a big successful club once again, I think I could have let them off. Can't see us being big and successful for a long time whilst we have so many hidden secrets and financial irregularities.

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18 May 2016 13:23:20
Me neither mate
But
I don't think we will find another buyer until we get prem.

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18 May 2016 17:21:27
Flash back. When Cellino said he would sell last year, lfu. How many money men were showing an interest, none? Why would that change now.

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18 May 2016 17:32:21
I'm surprised no one of any real note ever came forward let's be honest there has been enough opportunity .
M C flips between brilliance to nonsense but he did bail us out .
Berm I can't agree more re-accent, living in Colchester always assume me when I pass a spotty face oink calling his friend blood .
And why do the girls these days have to drag the word at the end of a sentence?

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18 May 2016 19:18:22
dont get me started on all the blood because S""TE that ain't proper london and makes my skin crawl same with all this mockney rhytming slang it should be punishable by death and I am not being harsh.

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18 May 2016 10:22:24
george I always read your posts because your the pessimism to my optimism. I agree that we would be better off if Cellino went and some one with loads of money took us over, unlikely to happen unless we challenging at top or in premiership. Your second scenario of cellino going and we end up in league one is my worst nightmare. We would be there for a long time as we would not have a team, sold to pay cellino back. No one with any money would buy us when we have to top two leagues to get to premiership. Worst case scenario in my opinion.
Cellino took over with the ambition of getting us to premiership, harder than he thought, definately. Biggest dent to that ambition is fans revolt and abuse to him and his family. He has dealt with media bias and fights with authority all his life. To me that's a good thing as he is a fighter, and if he is fighting for us all good. Obviously he should be handling things with a bit more diplomacy and tact but the fact is everything he has done, controversial as they are, have seen the club progress. Last year we spent a few million on players without a shirt sponsor. This year we have one so more money maybe.
Buying er will happen when we can afford it. No point him buying it personally, why would he? Would not make the club better off. Buy GFH out, how much do they want? We don't know.
I understand why some are anti Cellino. I am not pro or anti I just want the best for Leeds and do not see how him going at this stage will be good for the club.

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18 May 2016 10:47:56
A measured and sensible post from you Bige! The cellino haters could end up driving him to sell us down the river, even though they are only a small section. It's going to be an interesting summer but nothing that us hardened leeds fans are not used to hey? 😂.

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18 May 2016 10:49:42
Bige

I don't think that George is being negative just for the sake of provoking banter. The weight of evidence against Cellino's tenure at ER goes by the week, we are the laughing stock of the league. Because of Cellino's antics, the press can make up almost anything and most peoples first impressions believe anything could be true because of Cellino. You state he wants to get us promoted, which I believe and have stated on here, that yes he would want us to be successful but his running of the football club up until now would not make even the most optopistic of us hopeful. I live in Sheffield, among a team who have a 50% chance of going up (please no) they haven't spent millions, so it is possible if you pay market rate for players, have a decent plan of taking the club forward and keep the fans happy (no pie tax) . I agree with Wex that Cellino should not be run out of town and think that is the reason most fans are not joining the "Time to go Massimo" crew. Cellino has called a press conference for today, let's hope he can come out today and say he has a plan, got the man and going to get the players to take us to the premiership.

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18 May 2016 10:51:37
Top post BIGE. Echoes my thoughts. Once more into the breach dear friends, with a pint and a chaser! UTW DTP.

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18 May 2016 11:18:02
deda george clearly has some deep routed hate that has lead to football blindness, this is something we have all suffered at some point. I suffered with hock, stephen craney, neil killkenny to name a few.

while the anti Mc have some good points and george might of even touch on one at some point. his views and points have been exteme, negivtive for the point of being negitive and in some points just rude. I can not be bothered to go over them but highlights include

LEEDS WILL NEVER PRODUCE A DECENT YOUTH PLAYER AGAIN

MC'S TREATMENT OF FEMALE STAFF WILL ALINEATE WOMEN GOING TO LEEDS AND YOUNG PLAYERS AS WE ALL HAVE MOTHERS.

MC WORSE CHAIRMAN EVER

it is nothing short of anyone going near mc will die of the plague

at a lot of points when challenged to find sense George has gone missing and left the thread only to start again somewhere else spouting the same mindless poison. now you deda are also anti mc but your points hold some weight and logic. george is a very different kettle of fish.

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18 May 2016 14:24:56
Bermo

I was going to refrain from posting my anti-Cellino views deciding to give this site a deserved break from my negativity. However, once I read this insulting post of yours I am opting to ramp up the attack on MC. Hence the new avatar. Do you like it? Lol. Beside I couldn't desert my partner in crime Deda who is an excellent poster.

So postponed meeting huh? I'm sure tomorrow will bring much joy to fans.

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18 May 2016 17:45:08
George says what he likes and likes what he bloody well says. There are fundemental things wrong at the club BW you have to see that. Once again we can't even arrange a board meeting. Every club apart from Wendy and Hull will have a list of players they will be challenging for. Cellino wants us all to feel sorry for him, whilst keeping SE in the dark for another 24 hours.

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18 May 2016 19:24:12
i do see their are fundermantal things wrong, but there was well before MC took over, and the club is better run on the whole, better run than it has been since about 1999. I know two wrongs don't make a right but at the same time I will take the lesser of two evils. with the other eviel being players sold for peanuts and not reinvesting, or admin both of which where common place before MC.

gorge with regards to your posts keep em coming. I am more pro mc than most and postitive as possible and if anything your posts make my arguments stronger as other posts would seem to back up/ .

one thing that makes me think give mc time, we don't have other options, the other recent options have been worse, the club has slow improve form really bad to just bad (still progreess) and at his long time at his past club he did well, they have been worse since he left and did the best they have ever done under him, is this not worth more time considering. not saying he ain't made mistakes but they are better than mistakes made before his time and sdfconsidering the mess he got at leeds he could of done a lot worse than he has. I think things will get better under mc.

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18 May 2016 20:34:02
Unfortunate thing here is Cellino could just sell all the best talent we have, take the money and then run.

. oh, sorry I am mixing him up with Ken (I have never taken money out of Leeds) Bates.

Unless we have someone with a bottomless pit of cash we aren't going anywhere soon?

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18 May 2016 21:49:16
agree leeds4longtime.

sadly your posts with sense logic and good points will not be met with any kind or sain respons.

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18 May 2016 22:14:29
Can't really agree we are being run well. No academy manager. No proper scouting organisation. No head of recruitment. Cellino has a massive job to do tomorrow. Hopefully the reason today's meeting was cancelled is for something positive and there is good news to be had ( how's that for positive thinking, Wex and BW)

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18 may 2016 10:03:09
so much talking most bad and no action . keeper to spurs . taylor liverpool/ arsenal. cook everton but maybe loan dowell karl coach . so much but how much true . agent rules broken . one thing after another . will we ever get one normal season perhaps then we'll go up.

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18 May 2016 11:20:35
not sure if this is paper talk but think most would be happy to lose keeper to spurs as it would come at huge profit and most do not rate him that highly.

Taylor would hurt but again if good price no one can complain.

we will have to wait and see but it is normal for champ clubs to lose players to prem clubs, I think mc will reinvest and get good prices so business as normal and for most hopefully good business

fingers crossed.

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18 May 2016 00:10:09
Another investigation kicks off in Italy, this time it's big time criminal stuff to do with Calgari's new stadium. Prison sentences already handed out to two guys who pleaded quilty. The Fa investigate the badge kissers transfer. Transfer embargo?

Now we know the reason behind the season ticket trick. We don't get to the play offs then money off the following seasons ticket. That will be a season in league one by the looks which you will have to buy to get your rebate. Time to go Massimo.

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18 May 2016 05:14:41
Your conspiracy theory may unfortunately be right and come true merv.

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18 May 2016 06:07:32
get the facts straight - on the OS FAQ's refund by BACS into your bank account.

Slate him for what he has done not what he hasn't.

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18 May 2016 08:01:59
Getting oh so boring survivor reborn!

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18 May 2016 08:26:07
saints spurs both done similar recently plus many other teams.

this is what has happened. the fa hate us, they went for mc he wwas innocent so they have treid to find something. they have found this. now spurs and saints both fined not embargoed or points deduction so we should be fined also if further happens it is fa's fault not mc's.

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18 May 2016 08:57:18
Agree with bw about fa charge. Court case in italy over stadium, two convicted yes, also three aquited. Season ticketis a refund, will be credited back to your card or bank account. If paid cash will need your bank details. Doom and gloom for the sake of it.

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18 May 2016 09:44:51
As much as I am not a fan of Cellino, it is clear that Leeds get attention that is discriminatory and the FL are attempting to oust Cellino through "death by a thousand cuts". I suspect they have a number of other charges lined up to throw at the club. BW right (can't believe I am saying that) in that the McCormack case has precedent and any other attempt than to fine Cellino will easily be challenged. The ultimate hypocrisy is that McCormack is to face not charges despite the fact he is using an unlicensed agent. The whole route cause of this issue is the passing of funds to an licensed agent therefore why are the FL allowing this man to represent McCormack. Double standards!

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18 May 2016 11:21:27
what you mean notts I'm always right

so leeds to go up and england to win the euro's with wood scoring the winning goal in the final.

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18 May 2016 12:15:25
Hmmm BW, it is more likely that you think you are always right.

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18 May 2016 19:24:54
funny my wife says the same thing, have you two been talking?

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18 May 2016 20:41:12
This Caligari thing has been around years, how do you think it is something new?

Cellino has been here a couple of years now, it does seem to imply that he is one step ahead of others, maybe?

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