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19 Aug 2017 22:06:30
Just read what TC said about wood. he didn't appear to wish him well, although he may have done in the video. that's really refreshing to hear a manager talk truthfully. I'm really growing to like TC.
19 Aug 2017 22:01:24
Well what a result. i didn't think a clean sheet was possible when I saw the line up, but fair play and what people have said on here then maybe cooper has turned a corner. That's 4 points from a possible 6 against "the favourite teams", that could be a very valuable 8 points when you take into account both matches could be viewed as six pointers in may. I was never a huge fan of woods, although his 30 goals really helped us out last season, but I truly think we are better off without him. Perhaps he was a chain around the neck when it came to attacking play, as someone else said his departure will help others flourish! MOT
20 Aug 2017 00:43:38
Might agree about the better off without him if we had another senior striker Cura, little worried after Ekuban went off, Antonsson out on loan and Douk looking likely to leave, little scary if we don't sign a couple of strikers sharpish.
20 Aug 2017 01:27:30
TC has already said we are and that it will be a busy end to the window
20 Aug 2017 05:06:43
Defence was excellent. Midfield was very good and we again looked very likely to score. Twas well worth staying awake staying awake for the 0230 am kickoff in Sydney . Sunday's are always better after a win . As for no Mr Wood, I agree re more space and opportunities for others but also re getting another striker or 2. Happy Days MOT
20 Aug 2017 05:49:57
4:30 in NZ. Much better time slot.
20 Aug 2017 08:16:15
KiwiLeeds, have you asked Sky about Bein sport showing Championship games? They now seem to have live Turkish football but no Championship.
20 Aug 2017 10:20:58
No. They have the Caribbean Championship. Whoop De door. Am forced to pay LUTV £5 for poor coverage of each home game. Grrrrr
19 Aug 2017 21:14:44
Loved the TC interview after the match, and his refusal to talk about Chris Wood before the game. And how can you fault him for saying he would die for the team! Are we sure he wasn't secretly born in Leeds ?
19 Aug 2017 23:04:39
& he'll demand the same attitude from any player that pulls on that white shirt He'll do for me
19 Aug 2017 21:01:14
Delighted today! So pleased for the team. I think Woods absence created space for other players to grow. Interesting that away from home seems to suit our attacking style and we need the find a way to unlock teams at home. Love all the comments about Cooper as well. Goal line block saved a goal and good defending. We've still got players to come back in and some money to spend. Impressed with the boss as well, looks to be constantly thinking, evaluating and adapting. Well done!
19 Aug 2017 21:52:19
Delighted for cooper in particular! And so many other positives too!
19 Aug 2017 22:19:17
Great post, spot on.
19 Aug 2017 23:06:04
Plus it seems cooper has the total respect of the fella in the magic hat Who knows about this stuff
20 Aug 2017 09:58:24
Might be do in part to the fact that coops has clearly shed a pound or two over the summer.
19 Aug 2017 20:59:05
Time for Kun T v Newport?
19 Aug 2017 21:09:45
Steady !
19 Aug 2017 21:33:54
You do what you want SG, I'll be watching the game! 😁
20 Aug 2017 01:00:54
Perhaps BJ might feature too? 😜
19 Aug 2017 20:31:42
See ya Woody, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Maybe CT can save a spot for you on the bench. Replacements we should look at: Callum Wilson, Charlie Austin, Gary Hooper, Tomer Hemed, James Wilson, Dominic Solanke on loan, look abroad for some more gems Rachid Alioui from Nimes for example.
19 Aug 2017 20:57:26
How about Jordan Hugill as an option. Powerful target man. 13 goals last season, 3 already this season. Probably not too expensive and only 25
19 Aug 2017 22:33:47
Charlie austin is interesting. hadnt thought of him. does he get much of a game at soto nowadays? Isn't he getting on and a bit injury prone too?
19 Aug 2017 23:01:46
He came off the bench to score a winning penalty today, but it doesn't look like he'll be more than a bit part player. Although he was reluctant to move north when Newcastle wanted him.
19 Aug 2017 20:26:44
Samu Saiz as just added £10m to his value already. Would not look out of place at Chelsea.
19 Aug 2017 22:34:37
Why play for Chelsea when the dream move is Burnley?
19 Aug 2017 20:25:30
Fantastic result. Weathered the first 20 odd mins then we controlled the game after our goal. Can't fault anyone who played. Gave all for our team. Great to see the togetherness before and after match with the huddle. Wood who ? See ya. MOT ⚽️⚽️👍👍😂
19 Aug 2017 20:24:19
Where is Leeds1988? i would love to hear what he is thinking right now.
19 Aug 2017 20:39:25
He's upset as his hero Monk lost today and is trying to think of excuses for our win 😂
19 Aug 2017 21:14:04
You won Sunderland it's hardly a hard game they only had 1 shot on target. Your shortcomings will be there when you play someone good so your next 3 games should be simple. Wood is definitely a level above Leeds and like idiots you all think your better without him lol very little football knowledge I must say.
{Ed033's Note - Leeds1988 changed their username - Daz546 sounds like Leeds1988 and Leeds1988 was never a Leeds supporter only pretended to be.
19 Aug 2017 21:54:06
Proper walnut brain.
19 Aug 2017 22:08:53
It's 2017, who calls themselves Daz ? What a plum. Do you have a sun visor with Daz on it in your 2004 Corsa with a big exhaust and the other visor with Shazza on it for your inflatable lady friend ? We won and we are happy so jog on.
19 Aug 2017 22:17:28
What a complete ⚽️👜
😂😂😂😂👍
Not you Ed. 😂😂
MOT. obviously dan didn't watch the game. As we played very well without wood and others were able too express their talents more.
19 Aug 2017 22:36:23
Daz I think I can safely say from all on here - zzzzzzzzzzz
19 Aug 2017 23:08:39
Come on, be fair Daz finished all his dinner and his colouring so he was allowed 20 minutes on mummy's iPad
19 Aug 2017 23:36:26
Haha you lot do make me laugh, you all lose your hair from one person's opinion lol, I said you would struggle v Fulham and you did, Sunderland are a team you should be expecting to win. You have forest, Burton and Birmingham next, I'd say 7 points shouldn't be hard to get, but when you come up against Norwich or wolves or anyone with half a decent striker your come unstuck. Selling wood is a big mistake definitely if the replacement is lasogga lol. Enjoy your win you definitely won't be in the top 6 at the end of the season :) you haven't been tested yet, Bolton easy, Preston you missed chance after chance, Fulham were without there best player n one of there best defenders yet you still couldn't win and Sunderland are well known for not being able to defend. Well done haha
20 Aug 2017 00:59:39
Lol. You said Fulham would batter us lol and we had no chance of getting any points lol. Sunderland are one of the favourites for promotion lol and were unbeaten against three other promotion tipped sides lol. Lol you said we couldn't cope without Wood lol, wrong again lol. Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol. 😉
{Ed033's Note - Lol 😋.
20 Aug 2017 02:48:00
How am I wrong? Your 4 games in don't fool yourself silly. When the seasons finished and your in the top 6 il come back and tell you I was wrong but I'm 90% sure your finish between 10th and 7th once again because if Bolton can give you a game then I'm sorry but you have no chance v better teams. Sunderland might be one of the promotion favourites but they were awful v Leeds and that wasn't because you were much better just Sunderland were nothing in attack, I said you won't win Fulham n you didn't, Preston were never tipped for promotion so that's bull. 3 easy games coming up for you lot n your get carried away as per untill you play a good team. :) Clueless silly Leeds fans lol let's see what clown your sign as Chris woods replacement haha
20 Aug 2017 02:55:51
Also I'm not a Leeds fan thankyou very much lol I ain't got time to watch joke teams, I just love to watch Leeds results because your the only bunch of fans who can go from saying the team is looking great to sack the manager within 1 game lol your looney supporters ;) high aims and always fall flat on your faces haha I look forward to watching you flop n not quite making the premiership once again lol shows how far Leeds have fallen when you think winning Sunderland is a good result haha Tottenham won them in there sleep :p
20 Aug 2017 04:00:38
Lol brilliant SG lol
20 Aug 2017 08:14:33
We have a haha now, so add that too SG. Lol haha. Also did you hear that everyone - Tottenham would have won them. That's what premiership money does nowadays, they're raffling off the championship. hope we get given to Burnley!
20 Aug 2017 14:26:28
Daz but you have time to come on our fan site ? Think about it !
19 Aug 2017 20:17:03
I wonder if we have stumbled on the best way for this team to play too their best by Chris Wood moving on. Thanks for your efforts last season Chris but it's time to move on without you. I don't think I've been this optimistic about our team for years and years! MOT.
19 Aug 2017 20:32:22
Agree danum. I think our style may change with the big wood not up front. Onwards and upwards. MOT. more excited now he's gone after that result. Not an easy place to go. Clean sheet and 2 goals without him. 👍⚽️⚽️😃
19 Aug 2017 20:35:10
Just what i was thinking danumwhite. Which idiot of a manager said you need a big 6'3 lone striker when you have 5'0 Samu Saiz terrorizing the defense. We looked a lot more of a threat with the pace of Roofe, Saiz, and Alioski even Ekuban looked ok before he got injured. With Wood going it could be a blessing.
19 Aug 2017 21:02:17
Teams know how we play with a big lone striker like wood upfront. Today our front men gave them lots of problems with their pace and link up play. Sunderland's left back had a roasting today. Loved this exciting play.
19 Aug 2017 20:09:23
It's a new dawn and tomorrow's a new day in the life of a Leeds United supporter, for me I won't be mentioning Wood's name again, he's no brother of mine anymore! For me it's best to look forward to a couple of new additions bought with the money from The Dingles (that's what they call Burnley over here) ! I'm so happy we have TC and not Monk (another bad day for them) Radz is a top man and our team looks solid. 3 clean sheets on the bounce, top five place and maybe CW going is a step forward who knows! MOT
19 Aug 2017 22:39:31
So mike will your new Username be mikesamu67 or mikealioski67?😜
20 Aug 2017 03:12:06
This Wood won't be leaving for Dingleville mate, I'm 100% loyal without the big fat wage packet! I do like the Mikesamu67 though, it's got a certain style about it, somebody should snap that one up and pay you a finders fee Curahee! Nice one mate. MOT
19 Aug 2017 19:52:56
How about using a proven formula from Arsene Wenger - the Bergkamp and Henry formula? Wenger switched Henry from winger to the best striker in the world, and that coupled with the more experienced slower moving but perfectly skilfull passing tactician Bergkamp made it an unbeatable combo. We can do the same with Roofe and Hernandez. Probably not at the same standard, but we are not trying to win the premiership, we are trying to gain promotion . Thoughts?
19 Aug 2017 20:08:46
Back up combo of saiz and alioski too.
19 Aug 2017 20:19:39
Saiz, on present form, is back up to nobody
19 Aug 2017 20:47:27
Leodis. true that, mate. I take it back.
19 Aug 2017 22:43:03
Strong bow I said something similar earlier today about not needing a big number nine and using pace and creativity. i even used the example of arsenal. Sounds worth at least a go to me. How did Nicosia play in the Europa league last year? did they have a lumbering forward or nippy skilful ones?
19 Aug 2017 19:52:19
Top 6 and undefeated! ! At the same time last year we were yet to notch up a win and sitting stone cold last.
19 Aug 2017 19:42:01
Brilliant performance and great result. Looks like we can actually play football for the first time in a long time. We march on. Together.
19 Aug 2017 20:10:03
Agreed! There was some fantastic movement and interplay today. A lot broke down by a Sunderland clogger, but it will get better.
19 Aug 2017 20:21:18
And at times we showed we can defend when needed.
19 Aug 2017 19:40:14
Right curahee and woody I eat my words after watching TC Wood can shag off
19 Aug 2017 20:02:07
Top man Wex, respect mate. MOT
19 Aug 2017 21:54:16
Same from me big man! MOT
19 Aug 2017 19:29:03
Big shout to Liam Cooper immense as was Pontius
19 Aug 2017 19:37:24
Indeed - really starting to show us what he's made of
19 Aug 2017 19:45:02
Yes let's remember Cooper's performance today when he has an off day
19 Aug 2017 19:47:14
Absolutely on the money Wex, Cooper has changed so much fine TC gave him the armband, on his performances since Monk left we are lucky that we didn't sell him and fortunately TC saw something in him, Arlington and Jansen were strong, in fact I'm so proud of how they played! MOT
19 Aug 2017 19:48:09
Where did this new CB Cooper come from? He's fast becoming a new favourite of mine
19 Aug 2017 19:50:42
Bigger shout to alioski and saiz
19 Aug 2017 19:55:28
yep and that other ex defender of ours had a great game for Burnley too. oh wait he was on the bench ha! don't worry Charlie, Woody will be there to keep you company soon. We're better off without you both! oh and let's not mention Bartley's nightmare. 0-2 away will do just fine,
19 Aug 2017 20:15:37
Loved the quick chat at full time, before saluting the fans. Maybe leadership will prove the difference to coops. And there were a lot of positives today from everyone else too, but yes Saiz and Alioski look great finds. The one thing tho, can someone tell Alioski, who I rate highly, not to react like that to a foul again, whilst he's wearing our shirt.
19 Aug 2017 19:12:33
I know we don't have money troubles and AR isn't skint, but with the busy transfer season and the increased roster (albeit a much needed one) I was starting to wonder if we could have been wandering close to the FFP line. £15 m, or whatever we may have left after reinvestment, will at least be sure to keep the EFL at bay.
19 Aug 2017 19:51:59
Can't see it as villa would be stuffed
19 Aug 2017 19:07:05
I'm so proud of the lads tonight, they are running their socks off, they are chasing every ball and every chance, they are all putting Wood to shame, TC you are becoming a big favourite with me, what a performance, they could of been feeling sorry for themselves and down with the Wood situation but that's what wearing the shirt is all about, this team has got what we want, commitment and pride! MOT
19 Aug 2017 20:18:42
Also so proud of each and every man out there today wearing a Leeds kit. our unknown players from supposedly lower leagues across Europe are showing the are willing to battle for the team and don't look out of place in this league. Unknown TC seems to know the game. Early days I know but over the moon with the direction we are going. Big shout out to cooper. Mot
19 Aug 2017 19:06:31
Siaz alioski we have to stop bringing in these unknowns we need proven championship players
19 Aug 2017 19:52:41
I hope that's sarcasm wex
19 Aug 2017 20:03:25
The lowest form of wit martyn
19 Aug 2017 20:17:39
Wex. 🤔🤔😂😂😂
19 Aug 2017 18:45:00
Firstly to follow Curahee, total respect to Chippenhamwhites for putting his life on the line in the British Army, that is far more important than football! Secondly Wex stop getting at Curahee because he is actually right, Wood refused to play and show us fans respect so I do look forward to waving at him as we go up and they come down! And lastly Wood says he wants a dream move to the Prem, am I wrong or did we buy him from a Premiership team being Leicester! So he has actually had a chance once but wouldn't fight for it hence coming to us! Anyway the lads are showing tonight that we will be okay without him, Wood won't have any regrets because he left for money not trophies! In Radz we trust. MOT
19 Aug 2017 18:56:56
True true true
19 Aug 2017 18:02:27
The king is dead, long live the king
19 Aug 2017 18:57:28
I'm still here lucas? It was just a rumour
19 Aug 2017 19:43:00
Martin are you Elvis?
19 Aug 2017 19:43:19
Martyn! Stupid auto correct!
19 Aug 2017 17:54:02
Saiz maybe we can just put woods money in the bank
19 Aug 2017 18:01:50
Hope so. different position, but looks very handy!
19 Aug 2017 17:25:59
at only 26 years old and 30 goals last season i think Burnley have a real bargain if it's £15m. Why are we selling when we could get that all day long next season? I'm sure if we told him he's staying put he would honor his contract and bang in at least 20 goals this season. Now we are left looking for his replacement and no guarantees the new player (if we get one at all) will hit the ground running which i think could cost us in the next few weeks and months. It always seems to be 1 step forwards and 2 steps back at Leeds.
19 Aug 2017 17:34:06
I don't think he would have let it go to be honest barry
19 Aug 2017 18:22:36
Let's move on Barry. He wanted out and who wants a player who doesn't want to stay. We are not the club he fell in love with
19 Aug 2017 18:27:42
Ignore my comment above LOL we actually look better without him. Come on Leeds M. O. T
19 Aug 2017 17:25:43
So wood has pulled himself out off the team too play ? TC didn't want to answer any questions about chris wood and will do after the game. Gives the impression he was not a happy boy. ? ⚽️⚽️👍
19 Aug 2017 17:16:14
Well Wood almost gone and he doesn't feel it is appropriate that he plays! Not good that it all happens on match day but he obviously doesn't want an injury to spoil his payday! Good luck to the other players, get out there and show people it's not a one man team. There are other people in this team that can score goals!
19 Aug 2017 18:30:21
Spot on Spanish, we might play more freely now without just the one target up front shouting for the ball. MOT
19 Aug 2017 17:15:46
What is it about our players going to Burnley and refusing to play for their contracted club? Wood confirmed my view of him in one respect at least.
19 Aug 2017 17:35:47
It's the lure of the M65 and all the top attractions in the town.
19 Aug 2017 16:52:52
TC is sticking with O'kane and Phillips. I hope they improve soon.
19 Aug 2017 16:44:34
Always looked like Woody was going, he is a decent striker but he won't do owt at Burnley. Get the dosh and sign a bit of class. Apparently he is being very rude about Leeds and is REFUSING to play. Hope he gets his leg broke.
19 Aug 2017 16:31:17
Wood money . lassogo kent and Barts (who was taken off after 67mins today) Plus another goalscorer (with pace ) Could be enough to get us up me thinks ! Even if it is not these actual players, four players of that standard added to the squad and we will have a very strong side
19 Aug 2017 16:00:31
Well now it's been confirmed, Wood leaving for the bright lights of Burnley, medical at The Etihad as we are playing Sunderland! I hope the club will do the right thing by sorting out refunds or shirt name re-prints for all of our very loyal supporters who have used their hard earned cash to buy the new shirts with Wood put on the back! I am so peed off, why wait until three games in, why on earth can we not put our foot down and say NO, you signed a contract and you will honour it! I know how it works, its best to cash in as his head has been turned blah blah blah! Well I'm with Curahee, put him in the reserves until he comes out and apologises to all the supporters who work bloody hard to afford the expensive days out following our team because we are LOYAL! Is my post sour grapes? Yes it is! Petty? Probably! Does it make me angry? Yes it does because of the way these bloody footballers walk in to our club and say this is a dream to play for such a big club and I promise I'm giving it my all, then half way through his contract, see you later I'm off to Las Burnley! Well I for one hope and pray that in May 2018 we are all waving at Wood and Taylor as we go up and they go down! Will it still be your dream then Mr Wood? It will be JUSTICE! Sorry people if you don't agree, I'm not looking for an argument, I'm just fed up of these selfish, self absorbed players! MOT
19 Aug 2017 16:08:34
Top post. Absolutely agree. I had a contract with the British Army and never broke it in 22 years, served in every conflict of modern times and bever earned more in a year than he will earn in a week. Work that out.
19 Aug 2017 16:12:34
Can we be clear Wood never put in transfer request. Never refused to play. Never sulked and sat on the bench. Never held the club over a barrel. Did his job didn't complain. Leeds United had an offer and accepted an offer and decided to sell Wood. Wood honoured his contract with Leeds.
19 Aug 2017 16:31:47
Well it is what it is. £15m if invested well could be the difference this season. I'm sure it will be invested wisely Rads doesn't seem to be a fool with his cash, so it's probably going to be a good think in the long run. I agree with many others, I don't see him as getting another 30 goals this season, and I'd be surprised to see him get double figures at Burnley. On wards and upwards. i reckon his replacements are already in line and will sign by Wednesday ish. Just need to focus on a cb now too.
19 Aug 2017 16:51:48
I might be going out on a bit of a limb here Mike, but something gives me the impression that you're just a tiny wincy annoyed. Quite right too, the timing off this is inexcusable and I cannot understand why we didn't tell Wood and Burnley "We are preoccupied at present, we will discuss this on Sunday, as long as you put a good shift in, yer Judas b'stard".
19 Aug 2017 16:59:15
For gods sake wex do you read people's posts beforehand when you reply? ! Who said wood did do that? certainly I didn't and don't think mike did! mikes more annoyed at the club I believe! The contract discussion is general football contracts, not wood or his actions!
19 Aug 2017 17:01:19
Can I say Chippenham, and I truely, genuinely do mean this. thank you for those 22 years. you lads make me proud everyday! You are the real heroes, not over paid footballers!
19 Aug 2017 17:01:38
On another note, "If he wants to play football at the highest level", why in God's hairy hole has he signed for Burnley?
19 Aug 2017 17:09:24
It's all about money, and he sees it as a stepping stone! I'd quite like a £30k a week pay rise too, but that won't happen. Have to say on form I'd much prefer McCormack than wood for the same price
19 Aug 2017 17:38:14
You need to look at your posts regarding letting him rot on the bench curaheehee
19 Aug 2017 17:45:21
What are you talking about now wex? It is about money and he does see it as a stepping stone, that's a fact! Oh and wex "let's get one thing clear wood has not refused to play", well that came back to bite you!
19 Aug 2017 18:27:28
Spot on Curahee, it was Wood who refused to play as TC wanted him on the pitch! Leeds United and TC before the game refused to comment, yet Chris Wood has, in my opinion that says it all! I am annoyed with both the club and Wood, mainly because of the timing and the lack of respect for his team mates and most Importantly the fans, we Leeds fans regardless of anything should be shown respect as we are the ones that sing his name every week! MOT
19 Aug 2017 15:49:33
He's gone. £15m. Move on now and march on together without Wood. 👍👍⚽️⚽️😃
19 Aug 2017 14:40:54
Putting two and two together and probably ending up with baldricks maths, but are there obvious signs of the replacements lined up already? Aparently the Hamburg bloke has already met the team and I read somewhere it's been pointed out that shirt number 43 and 45 have been taken, but not 44.
I don't do conspiracies but could it all be in the bag already and we were just waiting for cash in the account before the wheels are put in motion? have we known for months? it would strike me as odd if Rads and TC didn't have a plan in place already to go, based on their work so far.
19 Aug 2017 17:30:55
Completely agree Cura
19 Aug 2017 13:44:57
If wood isn't picked today, who do you reckon will be up top? Ekuban/roofe/someone else?
19 Aug 2017 13:50:01
Has to be ekuban doesn't it? Perhaps the formation would change?
19 Aug 2017 14:29:29
I'd stick with the 4-2-3-1 with the top 4 being Alioski, Saiz, Hernandez and Roofe. Looking at balls into the box on the floor for Roofe to run on to. But it doesn't matter what I think, only TC knows!
19 Aug 2017 14:33:54
Anyone know what Sunderland struggle with at the back? pace, set pieces etc?
19 Aug 2017 16:47:56
I'd pick the same attacking players as the vale game
19 Aug 2017 12:57:17
Is it a requirement for a football supporter to lose all rational thoughts 😉
19 Aug 2017 13:38:12
I've never known what a rational thought is so I'm not in a position to say. Why you ask?
19 Aug 2017 14:44:57
You'll have to contact your mobile phone company to find out Lucas
19 Aug 2017 21:02:00
Good question Wex
19 Aug 2017 12:43:38
So if Woody is Gone for £15 mill, as i said in another post why not head to Watford and try for Deeney, proven in this league and given their recent purchases probably 3rd or 4th choice now, say £ 10 mill should do it, wages though may be an issue don't know what he earns
19 Aug 2017 13:02:50
Comes with baggage but better all round player than Wood and has proven eye for goal. Woul be 100% committed as likes to win.
19 Aug 2017 13:18:54
Wages would be a huge problem. Massive difference between championship and premier league. Just ask Wood Byram Cook or Taylor.
19 Aug 2017 15:11:09
Deeney is a leeds fan, probably not a big enough fan to drop around 40k a wk in wages. 😬
19 Aug 2017 12:27:49
From all accounts Wood is leaving in the next 48 hours. I hope TC has been working on what needs to be done to take the club forward after his departure as he must have known for a while it was going to happen. This will give him the chance to show what he can do. I hope he is in the David Wagner mould and knows how to put a team together and get the best out of them. If he goes for a quick fit of Ross McCormack and/ or Snodgrass I would be disappointed and I would think he is not up to the job - a bit of a loser. The pair of them have struggled lately and they would, in my opinion, be disruptive influences.
19 Aug 2017 13:27:45
What about telling Burnley to forget the add-ons and throw in Sam Vokes instead?
19 Aug 2017 14:02:38
Good player Vokes by all accounts but was poor when we had him on loan. Couldn't score to save his life.
19 Aug 2017 10:48:41
The more i think about it the more Curahee makes sense with regard to players contracts! Why sign a contract if you are not going to honour it, for instance we took a risk as we do with all players when we sign them and with success they get rewarded but how does the club get rewarded by the player when he wants to leave! Curahee makes a valid point in why do we bother giving them a contract when it's not going to be honoured, ok we make a great profit but £12M to £15M is peanuts compared to what we would make by securing promotion with the players goals contributing to our success. Where was Burnleys offer for Wood when he was sat on the bench at Leicester? Nowhere to be seen and where would Chris Wood be now if we hadn't signed him? Wood said in interview on signing for Leeds "when Leeds came in for me it was an easy decision, there is no way you turn a massive club like Leeds down, together we can achieve The Premier League! Where was he heard saying, once I've got up to a good standard and scored 30 goals in one season I'm off to an even bigger club in Burnley! So you can see why some fans say put him in the reserves. It's really hard for supporters to accept because unlike players we as fans don't sign a contract and then half way through the season we say that's it your not good enough I'm off to support Burnley! We stay no matter what we will always be back the weekend after, and we are not on £stupid money per week! Well we are on stupid money but the low kind of stupid money! There is far to much player power now and maybe it's time somebody came up with an idea to stop it, maybe if a player wants to leave, then they and their new club should give their wages earnt, back as well as a fee! Daft idea I know but I'm with Curahee on this, it's not right! MOT
19 Aug 2017 11:02:09
Thanks mike. To put it on everyday terms, You sign a contract for a mobile phone for a certain length and price, a rival firm offers you a better deal whilst still in contract. you can like it, but you wouldn't be able to get out of the original contract until it's up, unless the firm agrees to let you go. It's the gamble you take when you take a contract out. Around the corner there's always a better offer, but you sign for a duration
19 Aug 2017 11:09:21
I don't think you'd ever be able to keep a player that wants to leave, I remember holloways comments on Rooney when he left Everton, he was bang on but there's nothing you can do. As regards to why sign a contract, it's good for the club because it demands more in the transfer market if someone wants a player who's on a 3 year contract as opposed to if they only had 12 months left.
19 Aug 2017 11:16:30
Your right contracts mean very little these days they just guarantee the club a transfer fee for the player. Cura i think if your new phone company told your old phone company they would pay 15 mill to let you go they would.
19 Aug 2017 11:19:23
At the end of the day the contracts the players not the clubs, however I do agree to an extent.
19 Aug 2017 11:22:55
Exactly right mate, it is as simple as like a mobile phone contract but unlike the very early years of football the footballers of today are so far distanced from the hard working footie fan that a lot of them can't spell loyalty never mind knowing what it means. MOT
19 Aug 2017 11:26:33
But bige I could bitch and whine to the company all I want but really I couldn't do anything until my time was up with them. There's really no point in them then for footballers
19 Aug 2017 11:35:15
Wood seems to want to go if you believe the media, Woody has had his head turned. Because of this we won't get best out of him now. Best sell him and it's hoping the club have had fair warning this might happen and have potential decent better replacements on their radar. 12 - 15 million isn't a bad bit of business.
19 Aug 2017 11:49:07
He will go of course. But you make a good point. We would have to pay out his contract if we weren't happy with him, so there should be a penalty clause when a player wants to leave halfway through. It's all loaded in favour of the player
{Ed001's Note - that is in essence what a transfer fee is mate. A player could also choose to buyout his contract, under the right circumstances.}
19 Aug 2017 11:56:33
Curahee makes some solid points and like you mate it winds me up and I think It does this because if he was leaving to go to one of the top eight teams in The Premiership then you can except it as it's going to take a few years for us to get to that stage, but to say it's a dream move to go to Burnley then that for me leaves a bad taste and how ironic it would be if we swapped places with them or indeed we didn't and they got relegated anyway! Would it still be a dream move for him? I think not! Charlie Taylor and Chris Wood might see things differently then eh and maybe you can't blame them if they want more money but it still doesn't make it right!
19 Aug 2017 12:02:48
I get he doesn't want to play
19 Aug 2017 12:10:10
IB I know he has, but I'm not really talking solely about wood, it's all players who do this. That's how they have clubs over a barrel. If the club doesn't sell they have a player who doesn't perform like they did and may cause issues, meaning the club Loose money in the future, if they do sell even if they don't want to (like we have to) they loose a key player. Players know this and do what the hell they like
Therefore there really instant much of a point of contracts, surely the fairest way to do it is yearly contracts and either tribunal all transfers (wholey impractical) or do something similar to us sports with drafting, trading etc.
19 Aug 2017 12:31:11
Obviously right Cura and i think if a player puts in transfer request he should pay up his existing contract. Trouble is very few do so i think the buying club should be fined as it is just tapping players up. If a player is not out of contract and not up for sale they should not approach him. Ask his club and if they say no that should be it, but it never is.
19 Aug 2017 12:53:41
I think something needs to be done bige. what you suggested makes perfect sense. Have to say at least our valuation of the player was met, i really feel for Chelseas and dortmunds situation at the moment. I know we aren't meant to like Chelsea, and people will disagree with me purely because it's them I mentioned, but costa! really? A prime example of what I'm talking about!
19 Aug 2017 13:15:37
A contract gives BOTH PARTIES rights its really simple to understand
19 Aug 2017 13:30:52
A footballers contract of employment is different to most contracts of employment, for instance, if I was to be offered a job with more money, better conditions etc I only have to put in my notice whereas in football the player has to have his contract bought out.
19 Aug 2017 13:33:42
Then please wex in the context of this thread please explain to us how a contract protects the club?
19 Aug 2017 13:42:02
I know al I got that, but our point is not that they are different contracts, it's that players have clubs right where they want them. so therefore they're not really worth having. A player therefore cannot argue if during his contract the club does not wish to sell them. I think bige has it right with his suggestion.
19 Aug 2017 13:43:03
Wex think we all understand what a contract is the club has the right not to sell then keep a player for two years who is not going to be arsed not renew his contract then go for free. Clubs know a player is simply an asset these days. Best to get the most they can for them. If a player gets a better offer elsewhere he will eventually go. They could simply put in a transfer request at which point his club claim compensation for his existing contract, but very few of them put that request in because they have the leverage to force a move.
19 Aug 2017 14:43:34
Burnley shouldn't have bothered paying the 15 million so just waited a few months and got him for nothing why are the people that run these multi million pound companies so dumb
19 Aug 2017 14:51:44
Not saying that wex! again you've missed the point! you miss that much at the moment with this idea, are you Paul rabhuka in disguise?
19 Aug 2017 15:02:31
It's not me that's not getting the point. Maybe your autocorrect is working to quickly again
19 Aug 2017 15:46:36
Well you are missing it because your talking about Leeds and Chris wood and free transfers!
19 Aug 2017 21:16:53
You would swear player transfers between clubs was a new phenomenon. don't really get this thread. Have every club not bought a player under contract at another club, sometimes more than one a season? i'm pretty sure it has been going on for a few years now.
19 Aug 2017 10:19:41
Chris wood has not said he wants to leave if he doesn't play today I think he will go. The reports in the tabloid shite like the mirror I don't believe. I think wood will be a Leeds player come September.
19 Aug 2017 13:32:18
I don't know if he will still be a Leeds player in September but I do agree that Woody hasn't stated that he wants to go (not in public anyway)
19 Aug 2017 10:15:23
Sick of people on twitter begging it for him to stay. why OK he had one good season. how many People think he would of scored 20 to 25 goals this seaso. Good luck woody.2 week to land a quality CB. and striker
19 Aug 2017 13:34:38
I think he would have scored 20+ goals this season, consider, this time last season LUFC 1 point, goals scored by Wood 1. This season LUFC 5 points, goals scored by Wood 1.
So, why can he not score 20+?
19 Aug 2017 09:44:38
Well the Wood saga seems to have been put to bed. Good luck to him hope he shines in Premiership. Crap thing is we are three games into season, now have to get replacement and not many about. Hope we don't buy for the sake of it would rather get the right guy. Must say i did like the way Ekuban, Saiz and Alioski played together against Port Vale. Plenty of movement and flick ons and played with pace. Maybe a young one will get a chance, Malik would love the way we play but still young so can't see him turning out every game. Sure some one has a plan so let's see what life without Wood is like.
19 Aug 2017 10:04:20
Havent seen any games this season, only been able to follow on txt commentary. What's woods overall game been like, has he been creating space for others, making chances etc?
19 Aug 2017 10:53:19
He made one and scored one against Bolton mate, since then he has worked hard but he's missed a few good opportunities which I think he might of put away if he had his mi d totally in his game and not on his transfer situation. All in all Curahee Wood is Wood, he doesn't set the world on fire but he does put a shift in, I suppose just like you and I do at work but for a dam sight less money! MOT
19 Aug 2017 11:07:39
Not a great Wood fan but heres my take on his performances. He gets back to help out defence, he takes up good position in attack but seems to miss all the other bits, build up play, pulling defenders out of position, making space for others. Think the one on ones showed his ability, a good striker scores one of them, a top striker scores them both, but saying that you know he will score goals in this league and be well into 15 a season. i just think that he could be more mobile. And the only thing that gets on his head is his hat.
19 Aug 2017 12:37:15
So what we're saying is, based on this season he's contributed no more than anyone else so far, and for a good part of his transfer fee could be easily replaced for a more rounded player, which may suit us better this season with the creativity and goals from players behind him?
19 Aug 2017 12:41:57
We seem to be going for a more attacking flair type of game now, reminds me of the great arsenal side of the early noughties. they didn't have a 30 goal a season target man, they had a few quick very creative, well rounded players. perhaps this is the type of player TC will be looking for. The big number 9 worked for monk and his formation and tactical genius, but maybe now we will see the pack shuffled more as we won't need to accommodate woods general one dimensional style.
19 Aug 2017 08:54:45
Once a player is tempted by the promised land there is little anyone can do to reverse the process. So we thank woody for his services (not to mention huge profit) and move on. My recommendation would be Glen Murray at Brighton a man in the know at Brighton (He's a cousin of Jeff so it's solid) said Murray realises he will get hardly any games this year and is desperately looking for a move. He's not the glamorous choice but guaranteed to bring goals, support play and a fair bit of aggression with him.
19 Aug 2017 09:45:36
Agree. Makes me laugh that lots of supporters are crying because we are selling a 30 goal a season striker. That was LAST season and one season, where he was our only scoring option basically and everything was aimed for him. I personally doubt if he will ever repeat that level of goals. But I guarantee he won't score 30 for Burnley. Much more important now is how the money is spent.
19 Aug 2017 08:52:52
There is nothing on LUTV about Chris Wood having a medical at Burnley nor is there anything on it on Sky Sports, and as far as TC is aware Chris Wood is playing tonight!
19 Aug 2017 09:28:27
He's not in the team
19 Aug 2017 09:31:05
I'll be gobsmacked if he plays
19 Aug 2017 09:46:21
Not playing tonight having medical at Burnley.
19 Aug 2017 12:41:20
And where is this information coming from one I repeat one national red top, known for not liking LUFC, and how pray tell do we know the team a whole 5 hours before the game Woody travelled with the squad unless of course they were dropping him off at Burnley en route to Sunderland. That said if we are getting £15 mill I for one would hope we have a quality replacement lined up and given the pecking order at Watford i know who I would bid for, proven in the league and quality finisher. The door to ER is open Mr Deeney
19 Aug 2017 08:11:36
Wouldn't be surprised if at least one replacement is in by Monday night now, they're probably all agreed already. Also a £13m profit isn't a bad return in two years
19 Aug 2017 08:14:53
If it was down to me I'd have sold.
19 Aug 2017 08:52:13
Good luck to him, to be honest I think he will struggle in the prem but that said he has been professional .
19 Aug 2017 09:49:43
Agree dog wish him luck but it won't be easy for him.
19 Aug 2017 08:01:54
What about Nakki Wells or Lewis Mcgugan?
19 Aug 2017 07:54:18
Can't see Ross coming back he left because his wife was abused by some Leeds fans when she was out shopping and she wanted to move away.
19 Aug 2017 08:15:40
Don't go shopping then! Honestly, some people.
19 Aug 2017 08:30:38
See, no good can come from a woman going shopping alone!
19 Aug 2017 08:50:07
Don't want him anyway
19 Aug 2017 09:31:45
Classic Alf lol
19 Aug 2017 07:43:35
My point about being over a barrel is ehatcthen is the point of players signing contracts anymore? they may as well have an pay as you play! If a play can pretty much tell a club he said leaving then they are totally useless
19 Aug 2017 08:16:23
You really need to sort out that predictive text Cura
19 Aug 2017 08:32:10
Let's try again! 😡😡😡😡 My point about being over a barrel is what is is the point of players signing contracts anymore? they may as well have a pay as you play! If a player can pretty much tell a club he's leaving then they are totally useless
19 Aug 2017 09:55:45
Its natural progression, the better you get the higher you go. You only stop when you get to the top. If he scores 30 goals for Burnley he will be moving again. Pointless trying to hang on to a player if he has a chance of a higher league.
19 Aug 2017 10:12:44
I understand that bige, I'm questioning the need for a contract then
19 Aug 2017 13:12:01
So both parties have rights its very simple to understand
19 Aug 2017 07:03:06
Think it's time to say Goodbye Mr Wood and thank you for last season. I can understand him wanting to go and us finally letting him. Needs sorting now before it drifts on any longer. I think it actually might be healthier for the team. When he plays, we focus very much on him and service to him and perhaps it stops others taking the responsibility and trying different things. We have other players this year who can score, one already with a hat trick to his name. We also now have the opportunity to buy and I am sure that we will already have some names in mind. Be interesting how we line up today and how the players react.
19 Aug 2017 08:01:20
Indeed Spanish. Best of luck Woody and thanks for the memories. Onwards and upwards let's see what the next chapter has in store? Maybe now we will go 4 3 3 without the need to play to Woody's strengths?
19 Aug 2017 08:14:03
One player doesn't make a team, but a team can make a player. Cheers woody, thanks for your efforts last season and all the best in your future. Time for someone else to lead the line and be hero worshipped for a while.
19 Aug 2017 08:17:43
Too right. There has been life without Beckford, Becchio, Snoddy, Rosco, Gradel and there will be without Woody. We march on. Together.
19 Aug 2017 00:58:23
Dont think wood has done ought wrong yet. Hope he plays and scores today. We did to a certain extent rescue his career. But we do need to resolve the matter asap. If burnley or whoever don't offer enough we need him to sign. If he won't sign next week then we should take the $17m already offered i reckon. can't afford to let his contract run down and maybe not get promoted too.
19 Aug 2017 02:40:46
He won't score Aus because he won't even play.
19 Aug 2017 07:25:43
Let's except wood has probably played his final game for Leeds. In today's football it's a way of life that players move on once they get the chance at the first opportunity of joining a premier league team with the chance of life in that league and a bigger pay packet. We can look at the fact that we may have made a good profit on Chris wood. Now we are in the position of having to find his replacement, trouble is selling clubs know we got a few quid to spend so will inflate their prices. what now is our choice, to seek a cheap unknown from abroad, or a inflated prices British based player? Alternatively we are linked to ex players who we feel have left after showing no loyalty last time around. I think we all need a reality check as this is what the state is of modern day football and we have to go with it. Trust in our board, our manager and support which ever played on the field that wears our shirt. MOT