Leeds Banter Archive March 01 2016

01 Mar 2016 21:46:05
Please get Pearson in!

01 Mar 2016 22:56:14
He won't come, not under cellino.

01 Mar 2016 23:58:20
Adam or Nigel?

01 Mar 2016 20:27:44
We have one good ex manager sitting in the wings who could do a reasonable job at least till end of season? Paul hart?

01 Mar 2016 19:03:00
How to build a top club from scratch.
1 employ a top manager on good wages not one that's grateful.
2 now the manager is in place, assessment and evaluation of squad.
3 recruit decent players, this is the part where players will join due to the quality of the manager and the prestige of our great club.
4 should be 1 really have an owner that is level headed and shows aspirations to get promoted. But we are stuck with the one we have I think.
What you guys think?

Dougie2310.

02 Mar 2016 10:47:19
Ah Dougie, I think that is a jolly good plan. Unfortunately we are talking about Leeds here and more specifically its ownership. Unless Mr Cellino changes his spots we shall be in the eye of the storm until we are immune to sea sickness. Who would want to come to Leeds presently, coach or player. Its about as attractive as a slap in the face with a wet fish.

01 Mar 2016 17:09:46
Evans has been hung out to dry and humiliated. Why on earth would he keep saying players coming next day or two during the window. Clearly Massimo Pinocchio indicated that would be the case. So out went Byram and in came Dave. But no strikers, or centre halves. Then Evans says he won't break the wage structure etc, just face saving I think.
Evans might be out of his depth but who would really want to work for this shoddy outfit?

01 Mar 2016 15:14:06

In a strange twist today Leeds owner and serial manager eater Massimo Cellino has passed on the opportunity to remove another manager. How odd! maybe the rumours of compromising photographs and horses heads are true after all, who knows, however in the world of Masssimo this is as surprising a decision as any he has made.

01 Mar 2016 17:38:17
No need to panic Woods is back for Saturday!

01 Mar 2016 23:32:42
I suspect your post might be 'tongue in cheek' Beet, but you'll forgive me if I don't see Wood as the Messiah .!

02 Mar 2016 15:17:25
wood is crap but woods is a world beater.

01 Mar 2016 14:56:53
I am not suggesting major changes but - if we are on the brink of a new manager/ coach then may I throw 2 names in the ring One is the recently departed Villa man Tim Sherwood who possibly showed what could be done with a failing team and secondly, Nigel Pearson who many credit with the groundwork for Leicesters success.
Whether they would be interested in working for the axe man is another matter. But if that is the case then we are condemned to the bargain basement buys for ever more.
Do we have a perfect scenario for a change with Paul Hart in the wings, knowing the kids and who is ready. With Leeds in his blood ready to caretake till the end of the season, a safe pair of hands.

01 Mar 2016 15:09:42
Like redfearn.

01 Mar 2016 15:15:48
what about nr he's out of work now that would be funny.

01 Mar 2016 15:25:03
Tim Sherwood no thanks.

01 Mar 2016 15:27:26
its all good and well coming up with names, but I know if I was manager i'd rather manage burton than leeds united. might not be a case of pick who we want, could be pick whoever wants us.

01 Mar 2016 16:10:32
Despite everything. And MC, there would be plenty of people wanting the job.

01 Mar 2016 14:02:50
A perfect storm last night with Brighton playing (being allowed to play) well. Our passing being off, our chasing being slow and our decision making being flawed. Too many players have a defeatest attitude and ne "cojones" for a fight. All that added to a dodgy team selection meant we were staring down the barrel especially after a few controversial decisions.
Okay this was p**s poor, a one off but on the back of some scraped draws and backs to the wall performances does not bode well for the future.
Let's not panic but certainly heed the call for evolution not revolution with the insertion of a few well known, new, faces (Phillips, Botaka. ) and the "resting of a few questionable performers.
I am not a fly on the wall so do not know the state of the dressing room but certainly this is a time for Evans to show his true colours. Not by publicly flailing some people but smoothly regenerating a group/ seige mentallity and show that every future point taken off Leeds will have to be earned with blood and sweat.

01 Mar 2016 13:32:41
Some poor defending, add in a poor penalty decision by the ref and what are really a couple of freak goals knocked the confidence completely out of the team. It was like one of those nights where if it can go wrong it did. Evans should not talk about players futures in public and saying 40% of the players will not be here next season, as these are the very players you have got at your disposal and have to work with until next season.

01 Mar 2016 11:39:48
Interesting article on the HITC sport website. They have put together a list of the results in the Championship since Christmas and it would appear only Charlton have picked up less points than us (even Bolton and Rotherham have picked up more points than us) .

As is the way in football there will always be a loser and unfortunately we are paying the price for some awful decisions by MC and Evans, if we are going to lose let's at least have a go and attempt to win games. I hope Evans will do the decent thing and fall on his sword and resign as it is clear everyone is losing faith in him. When he joined he was exactly what the club needed a straight talking manager and said it as it was however as the season has progressed I feel his comments regarding team performances seems the word of a desperate man who is trying to convince himself performances have been acceptable despite results saying otherwise.

01 Mar 2016 12:29:51
Interesting article and HITC website, do those words go together?
Let have a heated debate.

01 Mar 2016 10:29:56
I have to admit switching last nights game off after 20 minutes as we were abysmal and suspect we did not improve for the duration. Mentioned in an earlier post that Evans had set up to get a point which he alluded to in his pre match interview (although he did correct himself) . Evans has to use the tools at his disposal however he is falling into the trap of playing square pegs in round holes. Playing Coyle in right midfield was unfair to a player who played well at right back the previous game but to accommodate Wootton (who is not and never will be a good right back) he is pushed further forward. Cook is continued to be played out of position in an attacking midfield role while Mowatt plays on the left hand side and is probably more suited to playing the attacking midfield role. I was talking to a fellow supporter at the Fulham game who had the belief that our style of play, slow build up with plenty of backward and sideways passing is very much an Italian style and that Cellino must be asking Evans to play this way. Initially I was dismissive of this suggestion however Evans at Rotherham and Crawley played a high tempo and direct style therefore why has he changed? We do not necessarily have the height to be playing direct balls into the opposition box however this current style is ineffective yet he continues to proceed with it.

01 Mar 2016 12:40:38
If this is true (probably is) MC must go. It also explains the media ban MC put on SE. MC must be concerned that SE may throw him under the bus and reveal the very theory you are referring to.

01 Mar 2016 13:18:40
A difficult theory to prove although Rosler has identified meddling from Cellino and Redfearn quoted as saying "the better the team performs the worse it will be for us (Redfearn and Thomson) ". This was in reference to Redfearn not playing Cellino's signings and moving away from the diamond formation. Both Redfearn and Rosler did show inadequacies whilst in the role however there appears to be a common theme with Cellino playing real life football manager.

01 Mar 2016 15:58:57
You are so right Notts.

01 Mar 2016 09:26:04
so evans you signed three players then say I've keeped leeds up . hang on one win in 11.and 9 points off Rotherham . wotton nightmare bamba you say another contract why looks casual passing rubbish . coyle right back you play him in midfield . doukara rubbish seams like is glory is over . so evans you are the man to take us up . your record crawley Rotherham . you stated some players will never play for leeds again out loud . it would seam you tell the fans what they want to hear . you keep saying we should of won but 1 win in 11 games that somes you up . you are not good enough . a little while ago top ten finish maybe creep into play offs now lucky to finish 14th . so that is down to you .

01 Mar 2016 08:55:52
at the game last night and can not remember a worse leeds performance other than when we lost to millwall 2-0 (at least brighton are right end wall went down) .

i think it was a bit of a one off in we are not normally that poor and we do not get hammered every week. However what upset me was even at 4-0 we didn't get forward, commit players and look like scoring. I always mention patterns of play and managers learning and progessing.

the gap between strikers and midfeild is too wide, we have no pace and are not direct enough. we do not look like we could score unless it is a wonder goal and they don't happen every week.

i like SE and have said I think he should stay but not sure now. if I was MC I would make a public statement saying last night was not good enough and SE has one more game to turn it around. Maybe applying pressure might work as at the moment we are stale and I worry we could go down on current form. stick a rocket up everyone if that fails bring in pearson or monk till end of season on bigger wage (it is only few months) and see how that works.

I also saw MC get stick for leaving early. I left five early due to traffic (leaving brighton is a nightmare) but if I was MC I would leave early due to potential fan blacklash. we can not jump on the man for everything can we?

01 Mar 2016 09:28:11
Spot on BW!
Not sure it's all SE failings and changing managers has not worked in the past

BUT

Pearson is a good shout in my opinion.

01 Mar 2016 09:39:10
Evans picked 8 defensive players last night including the keeper only Cook, Mowatt and Doukara you could say aren't defensive players. we have a young right back in Coyle so what does Evans do plays him out of position is this another young player where going to destroy, before Bamba came to Leeds is nick name was car crash waiting to happen and we can see it all too often why, in 50 years that's the worse Leeds team I recall seeing in that first half, it may not be palatable to some fans but the club is riddled with disease from top to bottom. Whether things change in the summer for the better who knows we can only hope but where far from save yet in this league.

01 Mar 2016 09:44:17
Bermondsey it was great you was at last nights match, unfortunately what you have described in your summation of last nights game is indicative of the way we have been playing recently& to be honest that type of result has been on the cards. I can't agree with you agreeing with Cellino leaving early as like you myself my boy and hundreds of other fans that stayed behind to support our beloved team. It has become apparent in the last couple of weeks Evans has sent the players over to clap the fans at the end of every game however he has not done this himself, when he joined he was doing this. Evans, Raynor and MC are profession people and I am sorry there was nothing profession in the behaviour last night. in my opinion it showed utter contempt to the fans and all three should take a serious look at themselves.

Evans is tactically inept and we have no chance of getting any better with him in charge.1 win in 11 is simply not good enough, like you I would accept 1 win in 11, if we were having a proper go at teams sadly we Appear to go down without any real fight. Last night we had a free kick on 50 mins just outside Brighton's box, Mowatt and Talor stood over the ball, we had 3 players in Brighton's box, Brighton had all of their players behind the ball and yet we still had 4/ 5 players behind the ball nearest to our goal. what was they defending it is beyond me.

Once again pleased you got to last nights I just wish the team had put on a better display, unfortunately what you saw last night over 90 mins is exactly how we have been playing recently. The players body language to me suggest they do not want to play for Evans.

01 Mar 2016 09:52:22
Agree BW. It's not the defeat last night. I expected us to lose. It was the totally spineless performance in the first half that upset me. We have far too many players who simply are not good enough, and lots who do not seem interested in playing for LUFC. And just can never create enough chances or get players into their box. I would assume that if Evans his still in place by the end of the day, then Saturday will be his final chance.
But in a way that's irrelevant unless MC is willing and able to dig deep into his pockets sooner than later, because it's more than 1 or 2 quality players needed. It's nearer to 10.

01 Mar 2016 10:04:22
Sorry BW I have to disagree, Evans is the coach, he has had 4 months or so to to develop players and get them working in a system. Has he improved Cook, Mowatt, Taylor no. Has he improved anyone! No.
He rates Wotton a better right back than Byram and Coyle
He shows loyalty to some players and not others.
He is a defensive minded coach.
He is out of his depth at Leeds, he has no track record of success at this level and due to MC's record as an owner Evans has been playing the media and blowing smoke up the Italians backside in order to keep his job.
It is not about saying how great us fans are or saying what you can do it is about producing a team that plays winning football, actions speak louder than words and words are all I have heard from Evans.
Cellinio is culpable in all this too with his narrow minded of coaches and once Evans goes we will be looking at another third rate cheap option.
Like many other I will be there on Saturday not because I am looking forward to a game of fast free flowing football but because for over 40 years Leeds United have been my one true love ( sorry wifey) it pains me to see our current predicament, I will be supporting the team but not the current manager or owner MOT.

01 Mar 2016 11:09:13
no I agree 1lu. I really thought evans would be good for leeds but he is not a good fit at all. I do think in general we have defended better under him than uwe but last night was very poor so kind of undid that. we have gone backwards in terms of going forwards and look toothless and as you rightly say he has had four months to improve that and has not. Lots of people said wooten did improve andi agree with what I saw however he has gone back to being pony so should be dropped as coyle looks a lot better and good pospect. Bamba doesn't want to play for leeds (as speedy said sadly a few fit this bill) so should be shot at dawn. I do agree I think SE has lost the dressing room and this is down to SE and him alone. I heard he was a devide and conquor type of manager but he seems to of devided but not conquor much. Again points don't lie and he ain't got enough.

interesting about his style of play and if MC has had influence on that. I love SE style direct hard to beat hoof ball but with results. it was his poor rotherham team that beat us and I loved that style and I think it is effective with poor teams in the league. however is he playing some naff keep ball pass it back no one in box type which doesn't belong in football certainly not english football.

i am gutted as I thought SE would improve this team and get us playing poorer football but getting better results sadly I was wrong. Make a note of this lads as this is first time I have been wrong since the berlin wall fell down back in 1985.

01 Mar 2016 07:15:24
Rayners comments last night regarding MC leaving early are an absolute disgrace and shows what little regard Evans, Raynor and MC have for the fans to say he doesn't blame MC for leaving just a bouts sums up the way our great club is being run. What about the 1522 fans that travelled, the majority of them taking at least half a days holiday to travel to Brighton making a 515 mile round trip, with some staying in a hotel and taking another days holiday to attend last nights game.

Evans is tactically inept and we started with 7/ 10 players that started were defensive players and clearly showed what Evans in tensions were, the problem was always going to be what would Evans do if we went a goal down.

Sorry Evans has to go, get someone like Pearson in to have a good look at the squad between now and the end of the season to look at the current squad in competitive games so he can make an informed decision as to who he wants for next season, while letting players he doesn't want go.

01 Mar 2016 07:58:30
Shag, I think Pearson would be a great choice. He is arrogant enough to think he is the one to lead us to the promised land. Sadly he is that arrogant he would demand more wages than Cellino would offer him.

01 Mar 2016 09:17:27
Somebody of the quality of Pearson will not come to Leeds, simple. I agree he would be an excellent choice, MC's behaviour towards previous managers has somewhat marked him out and I would wager he has, to some extent been black-balled by most . The good ones anyway.

01 Mar 2016 09:27:30
I agree BUT in honesty what decent manager will touch leeds? All we attract are desperate has beens!
My team and yours are in free fall again, and I can't see a way out.