Leeds Banter Archive September 01 2018

 

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01 Sep 2018 20:44:36
Bermo, while not the biggest squad, think we have two players for most positions and some players Ayling, Beradi Dallas, Roofe who can cover a number of positions, keeping the squad fresh and rotating tired players is going to be important. We should also have some funds for January window. We also have the u23's who should be playing the same way as the 1'team.

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01 Sep 2018 20:54:32
i agree mate it is far from tragic, i worry about cb but then i don't rate bardi however last night has given me far more confidence, last year the winter months told and i do worry that might be the case again, however i do think we are better team, better mangager and in a better position that last year.

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02 Sep 2018 14:08:14
Beradi is not a C/ B Berm, and when we play the likes Midd, mill etc really we need height .
The one thing I like about Bera is his heart and he has improved under MB .
I still believe we are 2-3 players short and two of them should be c/ b and I know MB didn't want any more defenders but as we have seen when the games start coming two a week and knocks etc start to take there toll .

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02 Sep 2018 15:19:43
i agree my biggest problem with beradi was, he was not great at right back hence monk replaced him with better player, then he was played at left back and lack of left foot made him accident waiting to happen, then he is played at CB and he is too short, however he was great against borough so fair play to him. he has done well this season in gerneral. Yes he is little yes it will cost us like it did for 2nd goal agsinst swans, but still credit where it is due. I do have to say I still think not getting a cb in was madness and will cost us but I hope beradi continues to prove me wrong as he did against borough.

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01 Sep 2018 18:34:55
Everybody sees the game differently and really you have to go with the consensus and weigh up most opinions, that doesn't make anyone right or wrong, in the end its the result that is the real answer. O-O they were away from home, they did not break us down in play and couldn't score from their set pieces. We had more possession and couldn't break down their defence. Our performance is what pleased me and we did not cave in and we were the ones going for it at the end. One game at a time, still don't think we know our best eleven and think there is a lot more to come from some of the players, not as an individual but more as part of the team.

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01 Sep 2018 18:52:39
I thought Boro were disjointed in attack and not the threat they were last year. Assombalonga was frustrated. They came to defend for the draw and to try and pinch a win from a set piece. They were solid at the back and we struggled to break them down but we're not likely to face a better defence this season. Bearing in mind their reliance on free kicks and long throw ins, I thought our defence did exceptionally well. Bielsa clearly has disdain for their type of football. Be interesting when we visit The Riverside. Will they sit so deep there? I fancy us if they don't. And Harrison, Pablo and Saiz behind Roofe sounds good.

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01 Sep 2018 19:46:13
swans and borough pleased me, both are games we would of lost in the past, ok we didn't win but we didn't lose and that is a massive improvement, we have always looked a bit soft and don't like afight, so far this season that has changed, we got bit of grit and can really play nice football. So far so good and good times at Er.

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01 Sep 2018 17:02:13
So Villa get utterly spanked by the blunts!? Totally unpredictable this league still, but it's there for the taking, and I feel we are in the best position this season to take advantage, more so than since we came down from the prem! Keeping the faith, as ever!

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01 Sep 2018 19:47:19
hard league to call, i think borough swans and brom will be in with shout but then so are we. just hope small sqaud holds out but with some luck which all teams need no reason we can't be there or there about s.

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02 Sep 2018 02:32:06
Not a bad run of games to come either. Millwall, Preston, Brum and Sheff Wed. Should win them all. Then I really might start believing. If we ain't got faith Bright then we got nothing. Like to see Harrison replace Alioski next game. He earned it in my opinion . Harrison Hernandez and Saiz backing up Roofe. I think Jansson has to play too. You're right Bermondsey, the small squad is a big concern with the demands on the players that Bielsa makes. Couple of injuries and players are playing out of position to cover. But also there is real talent in that U23 squad and some of them will hopefully break through this season. Clarke, Edmondson, Dalby etc.

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02 Sep 2018 10:21:41
kind of new to group ain't you scots? let me explain something

we will lose to millwall 100%, not just because we always fold in south east london, not because of pablo being out, not becuase of my dislike of KP or coopers form being hit and miss

we will lose to millwall because i am going and I am the biggest bock leeds have had, so on paper we should beat millwall but when i am in the stands we have no chance sadly.

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02 Sep 2018 10:46:52
Edmondson will get some games methinks. Defence is my main worry, only needs a couple of injuries and the balance of the team is affected. As long as we score 3 goals a game we will be ok but Boro showed our attack can be blunted. To be honest we will not come up against many defenders like Boros, know their job.

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02 Sep 2018 13:08:03
bige i wouldn't worry borough will blunt most attacks.

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02 Sep 2018 15:23:39
I’m sending you some tablets Bermo.
Take them the night before the game and you’ll sleep for days. You’ll miss the game and Leeds will win 3.0.
You’ll get some much needed rest and Leeds will get the three points. SIMPLES.

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01 Sep 2018 13:28:20
I think Bielsa decision to take up so much time up with substitutions says that he was worried about losing and their momentum.
Let's not kid ourselves.
We were not the better team.
A draw was fair but if there was a point system for performance. They would have edged it.
Team effort yes. We were brill.
But cooper. Ayling and Phillips below par.
I like Phillips. Think he is amazing and versatile but off sorts today.

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01 Sep 2018 14:48:47
Aus don't know what game you were watching. We were up against a big physical team with the best defense and matched them in all areas.

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01 Sep 2018 14:56:11
Don’t know what u were watching. They could of scored from every corner and cross. But didn’t because poor finishing.
How many did we miss?

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01 Sep 2018 15:05:28
sorry wex I tend to agree with you but think aus is 100% right.

borough were the better team, they had the bigger better chances and our keeper played well, i don't think there keeper made a save of note.

MB was playing down the clock in my opinion and if there was going to be a winner I think it would of been them

however this is not doom and gloom, anyone who finsihes above borough will be champs, they are a great team

swans and borough brought draws but last season they would of brought defeats, can't win every game but getting points and doing well against big teams is playoff form at least, and think we all would of took playoffs before season started

just size of squad worries me.

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01 Sep 2018 16:23:35
Think the point is is that they didn’t come and play football they came and stunk the place out with Pulis football, effective as it was it’s not pleasant to watch it was a contrast of styles of play, bitlike warnock football, i'd rather watch what we are playing like now, be interesting to see what it would be like at Middlesbrough, I thought we looked better to the eye personally.

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01 Sep 2018 16:27:47
I'd have to say Clayton clearance off the line was the goal chance of the game.

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01 Sep 2018 16:43:26
Really wex. U saw that as on the line says it all.
Thanks bw. I’m 56 yrs old and Leeds.
Lived in Rochdale for 10 yrs and hated the fact **** MU were blind. Always unlucky or hard done by.
I see it and call it as it is. Or as I see it.
No rosey glasses here.

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01 Sep 2018 17:07:45
Was Clayton not on the line making the clearance as last man on the post.

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01 Sep 2018 17:09:57
The commentator even said Clayton was disciplined staying on the near post after the cross had passed him he stays in position guarding the post.

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01 Sep 2018 17:17:41
We were the better team with the ball in play. Technically the better team however not at our best. They were dangerous at set pieces which is to be expected but overall the team dealt well with them. Hernandez was a massive loss and could of made the difference as he would of gave them something more to worry about.

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01 Sep 2018 17:22:03
The stats say leeds 62% possession with 11 shots 3 on target compared to boro 9 shots 3 on target and 38% possession.

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01 Sep 2018 19:25:11
Wex, I think what Aus probably meant was that it was going wide anyway.
Which it was! 😋.

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01 Sep 2018 19:52:09
its ok aus have to call it like i see it and i agree with your post.

we are better on the eye but both hasslebaink and the other fella said they put money on borough to go up not leeds. stats are rubbish sometimes, didn't one team win once with 15% possession (was in prem last season can't remember who) pulis like warnock don't play nice football but it is effective and i wouldn't bet agsinst them going up and last night think they were the more effective team

that said we have played great football all season and when needed (swans and last night) have grinded out results which pleases me more than nice football as that is what gets you up or at least in play offs.

do i think we will go up? i'm not sure. am i enjoying life and loving watching us play. hell yeah and that is what matters. prem is rubbish league anyway championship is more games so more chances to watch leeds win MOT.

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01 Sep 2018 20:50:48
I'll say it, Leeds up as champions, unbeaten at home. Boro to maybe scrape the play-offs.

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01 Sep 2018 22:36:59
Nice one AL, and hope you're right! Even more optimistic than me! 👍🏻🍻🍻🍻.

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02 Sep 2018 10:00:56
Keith Andrews and the co commentator on the match overplayed the Middlesbrough defending and did not condemn their total lack of creativity with the ball. Only passing references. They came to stop us playing and played 5-4-1 from the outset. They must be the tallest team in the division! They played to disrupt. Did you notice anyone we were in danger of breaking the man with the ball got hacked down as with Ayala and Flint in the second half especially the latter when that ball was slipped through for Bamford. I would not pay to watch their football more than once a year.

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02 Sep 2018 10:23:30
dont mind where we finish as long as season ain't over by xmas, i personally think borough will go up, brom will be there abouts

leeds, swans, brentford, fulham in playoffs (I know fulham are in prem but it is not a playoofs if fulham ain't in there)

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01 Sep 2018 11:09:08
Think we need better player in front of Douglas. Alioski is too ponder puff. Hasn't got the pace and easily knocked off the ball. I'm he doesn't bring much to the team.

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01 Sep 2018 11:38:04
Seriously?
Two goals and two assists so far. Impressive work rate and he's cut out a lot of the diving.
I think he's doing fine.

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01 Sep 2018 11:48:05
Agree Canada, last night he was calling for the ball a lot and not getting it when he was in nice positions. Needs to watch offside carefully, but doesn’t look that slow to me!

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01 Sep 2018 12:15:25
Alioski has been, and will continue to be, a key player for us this season. That is all.

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01 Sep 2018 13:13:35
alioski can dissapear from games but this season has been on fire, goals assists and been everywhere, work rate and end product. think he has been class.

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01 Sep 2018 21:01:12
Can't fault his attitude just wish the rest of his all around game can be worked on. His positioning and final ball included.

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02 Sep 2018 06:24:52
This season Alioski has been able to send over a few crosses. Possibly a byproduct from staying on his feet. He's not the full package by any means but is making progress under Bub. And he gives 100%.

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02 Sep 2018 08:48:18
Speaking of Alioski, why was he finding so much space, especially in the second half, and nobody could see him?

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02 Sep 2018 14:06:37
Cos he's not very good! Imo. 😂.

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01 Sep 2018 08:52:22
At the end of the game Pulis and one of there players/ coaches looked at each other and smiled. They came for a draw ( maybe nick a win ) and got what they came for and were very happy with that. Pulis has been working with them for the best part of a season and Biesla is only a few months into it, once he has had more time, think we should get stronger and stronger at playing this system Thought we played well against one of the top contenders and had a few chances, won't come up against many better defences or bigger teams, plus we had about 5 first choice players who did not start.

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01 Sep 2018 10:06:10
There defence was good. Best we played against so far.
Agree that it’s early days with Bielsa and we can only benefit from his brilliance.
I admire his belief in our squad but like most. Think we are a couple first teamers short.

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01 Sep 2018 15:41:15
As good as their defence was, if we'd had a decent ref, Roofe, Alioski, Harrison running at them in the area, penalty every time.

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01 Sep 2018 01:26:59
Other sites slagging ayling off and also a few on here.
Scandalous. his injury last season was one of the reason
Our season went pete tong.
Roofes scored a few goals and now he's the the dogs b. personally i think bamford is miles better. come on lads.
Lets just get behind the team,
Cos if you've ever played the game, you know it's so hard. to be perfect in every game
. just doesn't happen.

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01 Sep 2018 06:48:19
He is not playing to his potential. There are always reasons teams win draw or lose. Sometimes individual reasons. Players that win games get credit. Players that are responsible for losing games get stick.
We drew the game I know.
But no point saying it’s scandulous that we moaning about Ayling. The fact is he is not in form.

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01 Sep 2018 08:14:20
I think Ayling has been one of star performers this season so far at rb. One average game doesn’t mean he’s crap and needs dropping maybe a games rest but not dropping because of his form. I believe we’ve got two of the best full backs in the league in Ayling and Douglas one their day they can give a few premiership pairings a run for their money. Just because we’ve drawn one game against the team who are joint top of the league with us doesn’t mean we shall start finger pointing and picking out individuals. MOT.

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01 Sep 2018 08:26:16
watch the game again this morning, any criticsim of aylin is very short sighted and harsh.

he was playing against a good team

he has to offer both defensive cover and expected to go forward

cooper had a poor game

KP whatever people may think only made one successful tackle that must bring extra strain on defence

all forward thinkin players (alying comes under this) looked poor due to borough quality

Ayling was busy, defended well considering pressure he was under, he found it hard moving forward as borough did a great job on him, not bad play ayling but well played borough

ayling may of not been at best yestedray but many good reasons for this, still think he has been our best player over last year and best right back in the league.

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01 Sep 2018 08:28:24
This team is basically the same players from last season with one of two additions, I think the lads have done well and with Bielsa behind them will continue to keep up this standard of play now. Think back to the last season!, I know what type of football i prefer. Let's stop picking fault with the individuals as we now got a team!

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01 Sep 2018 09:13:41
Well said mezzer.

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01 Sep 2018 09:40:33
Disagree bw. Ayling was poor. Boro weren’t that good either. We both maybe at the top and I hope we stay there. Just because Boro are 2nd now doesn’t mean anything.
On our day. Should have won easy.

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01 Sep 2018 10:18:09
i can see point Aus. I just think ayling was busy against a good team. You can not say we should of won easy, look at facts borough do not conceed, that's a fact. Borough did what borough do kept a clean sheet. Think it is harsh to say we should of scored against a team who never conceed. As negitive as I am and can be i think it was a case of well played borough rather than poorly played leeds.

when playing agisnt these teams they can make attacking players like ayling, saiz alisoki look poor, when truth is they were not poor borough just did a good job on them. I honestly think that is what happened, we had a great team (they are a defensivly great team at this level look at their record) do a professional job on us. this might make some players look poor.

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01 Sep 2018 10:18:24
Disagree Aus. Think BW is spot on with his assessment of Ayling, both last night and overall in a Leeds shirt.

Personally i would have thought Saiz would be coming under more criticism, as his final ball hasn't been up to the standards he has set himself. However i am glad this hasn't been the case. I love watching the interplay between our forward men these days. Would love every single move to end in a goal but just seeing OUR side do this sort of thing is so uplifting. Even Aloiski is staying on his feet so he can participate further in each move

Brilliant.

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01 Sep 2018 11:11:03
Ailing is one of our outstanding players as Pablo. MB has transformed Roofe and now we are able to see what a very good player Roofy really is. Ayling is a key player and Pulis changed there set up early into the game to limit the effect of Ayling and Harrison on the right where we were causing problems.

It was great to see this season we are confidently able to switch play, Douglas and Alioski will get better at understanding each other.

We’re having great season so far, MB is the real deal.

Only issues I have are, wish we had brought in another quality CB, injuries and yellow cards leave us vulnerable with lack of cover.
Cooper is going to cost us games with his idea that if you can’t win the ball fairly jump on, elbow, kick the sh@t out of the other team. Give away penalties, get sent off, this is not taking ‘one for the team’. He’s not good enough, that’s why I think he does this.
Otherwise no complaints!

M. O. T.

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01 Sep 2018 12:19:33
Every player in that team is going to have a few "off games". That's football! At the end of the day, we all know that Ayling is class and invaluable. He wasn't his best last night, but I'd still rather have him than any other RB in this league!

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01 Sep 2018 13:15:09
i agree bilko wish we brought someone in to take coopers place then cooper as cover that would of been perfect.

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01 Sep 2018 13:15:21
Having see the game cooper very very lucky, he need to work on his defensive game or we will be given pen away . Think KP did alright, this will be a tough game away,

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01 Sep 2018 14:41:53
Whiteman agree this will be a tough away game. Having been at the Norwich game last week I think sometimes we play without the pressure on us as at home games. We will come unstuck against some teams and will lose a few games along the way. Saying that I do believe we will win more and be more competitive than the previous season. One game at a time but let's back the boys, can't fault their effort so far.

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01 Sep 2018 15:07:41
away might be easier they will have to come to us and we might nick a goal. borough will be hard game, they are one of the better teams and play an ugly but very effective way.

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01 Sep 2018 16:11:59
You're right there Bermo. There will be an expectation for them to come at us at home, and that might just be to our advantage.

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01 Sep 2018 19:55:08
maybe rose tinted glasses bright but i honestly think our style suits being away from home as home team coming at us will suit us more (as at derby) that said borough will never be an easy game. but have to say either way wtaching us play is pleasing we are like liverpool and city in the sense we are good to watch shame borough killed the game last night but then that is what they do and why they are good.

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01 Sep 2018 22:38:54
Agreed Bermo!

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