Leeds Banter Archive July 20 2018

20 Jul 2018 19:51:22
Not my theory of the lack of signings. but I now believe a previous poster has got this right, waiting for premier teams to do the majority of their transfer business (which are impacted by the World Cup) then we are going to be sniffing around the players who fail to make the respective squads. It’s either brave, stupid but I have no other plausible explanation as to why we are waiting until the last minute.

Certainly hope they’re not planning on selling to raise funds first!

20 Jul 2018 20:17:20
That's my gut feel 92, tho most will probably be loans, but hopefully with a purchase option. Still strongly believe there will be 3 or 4 more to come before both windows close.

20 Jul 2018 20:49:10
Talking of funds! What about Villa told they're skint can't pay the tax man then not one but TWO billionaires offered to put significant investment into the club! Still where’s their tv dealls eh!

20 Jul 2018 22:10:20
Where does the confidence come from guys. We've all been here before. What makes us think Radz is any different from the previous owners that promised loads and delivered little. Can you not see through the BS.

20 Jul 2018 23:27:55
Wouldn’t say it’s confidence Wex, more clutching at straws in the absence of a more plausible explanation. I’m also thinking that Bielsa wouldn’t have signed up without assurances on signings. Like I say all straws but what’s the alternative, Radz out ain’t going to help anymore unless we can unearth our own billionaire? Confidence no, just typical Leeds hope and everything crossed as usual.

21 Jul 2018 01:26:36
I see another season of disappointment with a possible relegation battle and a new manager by xmas. I am glad that we have gone off that Jerry Whathisname but I think if we can get (unlikely) the two Peterboro players, things will look a lot better. We don't need poor strikers from Serie Z or whatever. When they are young, they have resale value, but older players looking for another payday are not what we want.

21 Jul 2018 06:15:55
Jerry what's his name octopus is from the Italian b division that's there second tier. The two from Peterborough are from the English 3rd tier so they would be more if a gamble if you look at it logicly.

21 Jul 2018 10:01:02
Wex, I'm the same as class here. Just don't believe we would bring in Bielsa, and not give him something extra to use. Less confidence, more hope and belief. Interesting to read earlier that Pep isn't even deciding who goes out on loan until the end of pre season. Am guessing the same applies to others we are looking at?

20 Jul 2018 18:53:30
Derby County said to have made 3 separate bids for Peterboroughs Jack Marriott. Have we got to wait until they have a bid accepted before we get involved and miss out again.

20 Jul 2018 19:32:47
If we bid when he has agreed to go to Derby our hierarchy will think it makes it look like they are trying so hard but keep missing out, or that's how it seems.

20 Jul 2018 19:59:40
We can't compete with Derby.

20 Jul 2018 20:14:33
Their chairman has come out and said that we are still in the hunt. Not that that actually means anything other than we have declared an interest and are having discussions. I'll hold my breath for everyone!

20 Jul 2018 22:09:27
In think he'd rather sell his players to us than derby given the chance. He has a good relationship with leeds fans on Twitter.

21 Jul 2018 08:13:21
Peterborough chairman says we're still in the hunt. Like I said in an earlier post. Smelling desperation and playing us for fools.

20 Jul 2018 15:21:47
Don't believe the hypr we obviously are not prepared to spend. Radz forking out for the manager is as far as it goes.

20 Jul 2018 15:56:38
Heard you the first time Wex.

20 Jul 2018 16:23:56
And we hear you George. As the great man John Rotten once said "Ever get the feeling you've been Cheated"

20 Jul 2018 16:35:08
I still believe you will be eating your words wex when we bring a couple of decent players in and spend money to do so. I know you will be happy to do so though mate but I personally have to agree with George that it’s not quite throw the towel in and sulk just yet.

20 Jul 2018 16:42:43
It's not far off, and the way our lot are performing it's hard to believe your optimism. Also why aren't they putting the word out to reassure the fans that we are looking to do some quality business?

20 Jul 2018 16:55:33
And why are they not closing the deal on players we are supposedly interested in. If you're ambitious you go the extra yard. Hope you are right and I end up eating my words because at the moment I am starved.

20 Jul 2018 17:00:02
I think we are playing a very dangerous game of brinkmanship. Either we will get "names" in on the last day or be left with egg on face time and hoping that Bielsa can make good on his claim of making this team - Better.

20 Jul 2018 18:23:15
Wex, see the blind that the blind can not see, with you 100%.

20 Jul 2018 22:30:01
Agree Wex, you do go the extra yard, but it's only worth it, if THEY are worth it. And so far, everyone who we've missed out on, with their demands, have not been worth breaking the bank for.

20 Jul 2018 14:13:25
I understand that there is faith that the club will get some players in prior to the Stoke game (2 weeks on Sunday) . The fact of the matter is that in the second half of the season we were one of the worst performing teams in the division and currently we will be lining up with the majority of the same players (exception will be Baker and Blackman) . That does not fill me with confidence.

20 Jul 2018 14:31:24
Who are you telling, Notts? Everyone feels same. Mid-table mediocrity beckons if we're lucky. I can also see us being plagued by the same burnout experienced under TC.

20 Jul 2018 14:56:57
Just sharing my opinion for what it is worth George. Knowing what we currently know about the deficiencies of our current squad I would kill just to achieve mid table mediocrity. I cannot decide if the 3 stooges that run our club are either arrogant or ignorant regarding the perceived quality of the squad. We were probably the worst team in the division in the second half of the season and although Bielsa may be good he does not walk on water. Unless the situation dramatically improves we will be fighting relegation this season. Hate to say it but this is how I feel.

20 Jul 2018 15:19:50
Last year was a pussy cat league compared to this year. Good luck with mid table.
Some get it.
We don’t.

20 Jul 2018 15:39:08
Your feelings are entirely reasonable Notts. It's arrogance not ignorance. They know what they're doing. It's only a bit of a con just for right now in my opinion hence the #5yearplan. Radz' safe harbour runs out 2021. My guess is we'll see more money out of him in about a year.

20 Jul 2018 12:05:15
I don't like to get too beat up over the players who we target and don't get because ultimately, if it was to come off something wouldn't have been right, hence the board taking a stand on players like vydra and Hernandez. Do feel as though we are looking at the right calibre of player, though with stoke looking at chester, and west brom looking at bartley, these are the sort of guys that win you the league or get you promoted, proven by brighton in signing dunk and duffy, Newcastle showed it by signing clark and gayle. For me, you need a centre half like that, who has actually won something, jansson on his day is in the top 3 centre halves in the league, is that premier league quality though? yes i'd say so. but one man can't do it alone. It appears in the 3 at the back and the 3 in midfield there are actually transitions that I've seen. the left and right cb tend to sit back, and the central one pushes forward joining the midfield, on defense the wing backs drop and on attack they get around the wingers to allow them to cut in and create an overlapping run, the central midfielder can than also bomb on. Jansson is one of those CB's who will sit, and I thinkl he'll probably be partnered by cooper, but we need better. De bock and Berardi have proved good cover in there and ailing could do that job, but he's also the only one on the right who can run. We do need a new cb, but one who wants to get leeds promoted, not one who wants 25k a week, I think that's what orta is looking for, ambition.

Quick note on the new striker links, getting stronger by the day that were after m&m from posh, gayle (a doubt imo) , eisa from Cheltenham, and waghorn who I think would be a good alternative to roofe, who has got goals in a fairly average Ipswich side for some time, think being supplied by klich, saiz, Hernandez, baker, would be a good addition. I'd most like to see waghorn, Eisa, and a defender with similar attributes to dunk would go a long way.

20 Jul 2018 12:47:02
Samo De Bock ain't good cover anywhere including his own position! As for Eisa and Waghorn, neither one is good enough. League One standard and no more. Roofe is better than these guys. We need to be aiming above the Roofe to be successful. Bielsa tactics and formation ain't enough on their own without further quality additions. Even Bielsa said he wants 4 quality additions. Going to League Two for inspiration won't help.

20 Jul 2018 13:49:52
Samo, What are you smoking!

20 Jul 2018 11:26:20
So we lost Josefzoon to the FrankFactor but whatever happened to the BielsaFactor that we were told about. Players would flock to this "legend". Managers/ friends/ admirers would fall over themselves to offer him their starlets? Wishful thinking.

20 Jul 2018 13:05:12
More radz spin.

20 Jul 2018 11:11:27
I have a theory.
Team started well last year so obviously there's talent there somewhere. They get rid of two managers because things start to go south and accept the failings of the managers. Then they come up with a cunning plan, they spend big on a manager say 2 mill a year and put total faith he can use what he has before him to get promotion.
So a 2 mill investment no new signings and if it fails no big loss. Then there's next year after it goes wrong once more they see the light all within the 5 year plan. They get a decent manager and invest in a quality playing squad and then wonder why they get promoted.
I don't know why they don't have a fans forum and allow the passion of the fans to offer input into past failings, if it was my business that's what I would do!

20 Jul 2018 12:34:44
Radz will part with bigger sums of money but he'll only do so on his time. Can't see him being ready until this time next year.

20 Jul 2018 10:37:20
I'm sure there is method to bs madness. I think he has a plan for team selection and the friendlies. Hopefully it will take shape for last three friendlies so we can build.
Don't think owners or Orta or Kinnear have method. They are just mad and useless.

20 Jul 2018 11:25:51
Think the word for Orta and Kinnear is delusional, thinking we can get second rate players on the cheap and when they arrive at Elland Road believe that they get sprinkled with fairy dust and become world beaters.

20 Jul 2018 12:11:40
Appears Stoke are on the verge of splashing around 20 million on 3 quality players, with what we've got and Orta orchestrating who we get can't see us getting anywhere near the top 6 without us spending a similar amount Bielsa will have to be a miracle worker to get us anywhere near the top clubs will never happen but sack Orta and give full control to Bielsa before we have another wasted season, times running out fast so expect us linked with Ortas usual dross.

20 Jul 2018 07:10:26
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 20th July 2018