Leeds Banter Archive May 20 2014

 

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20 May 2014 22:52:21
Anyone ever thought about Gary Speed and how his management career would have gone. Poor bloke had it all in front of him and unfortunately was taken too soon. How great it would have been to have him managing us in this uncertain period. RIP.

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20 May 2014 21:20:11
Mr Happy, I see your point but think a run of pre season games may show us if Aidy has learned that end product is vital, same applies to Poleon, he had a decent pre season but never got a good run of games after because Ross scored for fun. If Poleon would put his head up before running out of pitch or passing to nobody he could be good.
I think we need to take a chance & give these two a run of 5-6 games & not just dismiss our products before giving them a real chance

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Thanks Slough for the only support I got this time, even if it is slight ;).

I agree with you about pre-season showing if he has what it takes, but that depends on him playing a key role in pre-season. With some luck a fast player who knows what to do will emerge before the first league game.

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20 May 2014 21:05:33
The whole point is Ian Harte has dangled a carrot which has set twitter off yet again. His hints mean sod all, he's not going to tell us anything which implicates him, McD or our useless non scoring centre forward.
Not the sharpest tool in the box although pretty good left foot from outside of it.
Wish lufc fans would just ignore him tbh. Waste of space

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Harte is probably talking about the upcoming mass cull of staff (more than first thought) and the imminent appointment of a head coach. brian to be offered scout role. take it or sod off

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20 May 2014 18:46:21
I'm aware I say some pretty stupid things:
1. I congratulated Fergie on his career when he retired - though I did so with some bitterness.
2. I said I would like to see Grayson back with money and a defensive coach - which actually went down rather well.
3. I spoke in favour of a "should Becchio come back?" post.
4. I was a vocal critic of Beckford's selfish playing style.
etc.

I think however I will beat them all when I say Aidy White should be our first choice left back next season, at least for the early stages.

Hear me out. There is something of a debate as to whether White will ever be good enough enough to be a Leeds player. Some say his pace is an asset while others say he has no end product and can't read a game. My reasons for supporting him in the coming campaign are thus:
1. Next season (by MC's own words) is for building and preparing for the following one.
2. A player cannot learn to read a game if he is not playing regularly.
3. White is not past the age to make a drastic improvement.
4. Being made first choice will boost his confidence and a simple ego boost can often be a catalyst for players to go on to great things.
5. Big things were expected of him once upon a time

By using this season's "building for the future" mentality and playing Aidy we will know one way or another if he is good enough and end the debate. Either he will improve with game time and begin to deserve the spot or he fails and loses it 10 to 20 games into the season. If things don't work out, then we'll know how to end the debate.

Angry replies are welcome, but this post is sincere - plus I know we have Warnock but he's getting on a bit now and Taylor is another option but this is how I would end the Aidy White debate.

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Couldn't we just give Charlie Taylor a go aidy white has had plenty. Of chances i

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I think Taylor will be thrown in from the start next season. He's played 40 games this season for Fleetwood and will most probably play at Wembley so he will have had plenty of game time. Whilst I kind of agree with what you say and you put up a good reason for, I reckon Taylor will be the preferred option and maybe another gem

MM

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Sorry Mr Happy but I simply cannot agree with you here. From when he has played his defensive work is just not good enough I'm afraid. Some say play him as a winger, all he has is pace, no end product. Maybe give him a chance in pre-season to prove himself- if he is still around. Warnock is good enough for this level and Taylor is thought to be held in high regard. I just can't see white being able to challenge for a first team spot this season. As for a building season, if we go in with that mentality Ross will soon want to leave I'm sure. We have to go for Promotion and if we fail at lest we will hopefully have a good platform to go again next year.

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I reckon you guys are spot and Taylor will be thrown in this coming season much like Byram was, also think Mowatt will start a lot and Poleon will get a chance to show what he can do. Always believed that young players thrive on confidence which will come from regular fist team action.these lads needs to step it up though and show this "potential" we're told they have. mixed with some quality experienced players (from what we have like Ross, Pearce etc) and some good, shrewd signings and we could have a really exciting team which may be erratic at first but that we need to back and that will make us proud.

Realistically next season could/will be up and down and we need to manage our own expectations. mid-table or near playoffs should be the aim with the aim of 15/16 season to really go for promotion. Cellino has his work cut out sorting the financial mess GFH and Bates have left us in. I don't envy him BUT for once, we have someone who seems to be honest about the situation being very bad but that he is actually going to do his all to sort it.patience is key guys, 1ore year of it and we could be sound financially finally with an exciting future. MOT

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{Ed003's Note - Watched him several times(taylor) this year not sure he's ready for the championship just yet (just my opinion) but then again if he's not given the chance you never know I suppose,anyway I wish him well on monday.}

A lot of good, well thought out responses and I agree that Taylor (right now) seems like the better choice. It saddens me however to see a player who had so much promise cast aside. I maintain his pace could still be an asset if he is given the opportunity to learn on the pitch. We'll see after pre-season I suppose.

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Isnt it nice to actually be talking about youth and there development. i'm fed up of all the negativity and "questions" about Cellino, I think there are pros and cons to him, but one thing I've enjoyed so far is the pretty much guaranteed use of youth players.

Everyone having this debate is refreshing, and instead of worryin about buying players, were talking about the use of youth!

I for one am enjoying it.

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20 May 2014 19:07:04
Has anyone seen the tweet from Ian Harte and what do you make of it guys?

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Didnt harte playing under mcdonut at reading?

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Hi Italian stallion
Not seen it! Can you or maybe ed publish it on here as I'm an ole fart and can just about see my way around and use this infernal computer telegramy radio(wireless) thingy mabob tinternet will never catch on you know!
Regards
Wingy
LEEDS for life

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He put something like ' if only Leeds fans knew what was happening behind the scenes ' #disgrace.# no respect .
Just wondered if anyone 'in the know' knew exactly what he was referring to

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Italian thanks, probably worried for his mates futures after all let's face it he'd employ workers who didn't come up to scratch in their roles for the entire contract term then when contract up, and targets not even close, re new and offer pay rise!hunt is crap, and failed as a striker bmc didn't fair much better either.
Outsiders keep noses out of our club you left it! And stop you're rubbish stirring .
LEEDS for life
MOT

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{Ed003's Note - I think he denied stirring}

I think if Harte has the balls he should just come out and tell the truth.
I'm guessing his close mate BMD has been told his NEW role and that's why he took his holiday in a strop.
Harty tell us what ya know YOU have nothing to lose ;)

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20 May 2014 18:08:31
Charlie Taylor has signed a new 3 year contract.

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20 May 2014 16:29:27
What about Claudio Ranieri as manager.

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As if he would!

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20 May 2014 15:27:03
Rip rory embling. A true white who will always keep marching on together with us all .

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Here here. RIP Rory and condolences to the Embling family.

MM

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20 May 2014 13:00:09
just sharing this snippet.

cristina guerri today.

massimo the man with the (Midas touch)

our entrepreneur,

Massimo Cellino has a personal objective to grow Leeds United. "I came here-he told ssn-with a big dream, to see if I am able to lead a club like this. Cagliari, I was there for 23 years, but it's a small club, and it did not grow the way I wanted. For all of those 23 years I have bought very good players for one million Euros, I've seen them grow and then leave.I have had to start again, because the club could not grow along with the players. Here, however, I would have the opportunity to retain the best players." MOT

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Another share. today Massimo Cellino has been offered a fee of around €80 million though no other details are mentioned.

Cagliari lawyer Giuseppe Accardi received an e-mail proposal and will handle the Italian club’s side of the negotiations.

Luke Silvestrone is the representative of the American ownership group. looking good LUFC Fans MOT

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20 May 2014 12:04:21
MC states even if he sold Cagliari now and had that influx of money he would not be doing any thing different from what he is already doing at LUFC. The club needs to be profitable and stop borrowing from people to survive. At Cagliari he had to develop players and sell to make it profitable. In LUFC he believes he can build the club so he will not need to sell players he develop's to make it profitable. But there is much work still to do.

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A Big club like LUFC should be running at a profit. Hope MC can sort out the disgraceful mess left by GFH/Bates/Risdale.MOT

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20 May 2014 11:59:14
companies house now confirms the two sons of MC are now directors of LUFC

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20 May 2014 11:16:40
So sad reading of Rory Embling.

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20 May 2014 10:24:36
YEP
My uttermost condolences to Rory Emblings family and all who knew him. A true LUFC fan, season ticket holder who attended pre-season friendlies.

YOU WAS TOO YOUNG TO BE TAKEN FROM US
RIP Rory

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Well said Andy.

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20 May 2014 08:04:02
I'm kinda getting the feeling that the speculation regarding transfers is mooted because we all are beginning to realise that we don't want any more tat taking up wages. Think that we won't have heard of most of our signings which makes wild speculation hard. At the moment I'm looking forward to getting rid rather than bringing in.

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20 May 2014 07:49:01
Benito Carbone says
I've been watching the academy for 4 weeks now, 3 or 4 matches a week and we have some really good academy players.
We should get these players into the first team, 5 or 6 academy players in the first team in the next 4 years.
We have a good manager and we ALL need to pull together as LUFC is a big big club.

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