Leeds Banter Archive October 20 2015

20 Oct 2015 21:49:51
An awful lot of optimism on here. Have to say, my opinion is, that the Evans appointment is a joke . It makes us an even bigger laughing stock than we have been since we came up from L1, and that is some achievement! Always Leeds, but you guys who come on here talking up Evans are the same guys who have posted ' In . we trust' for the past ( must be getting near 50) managers!

20 Oct 2015 22:13:39
Plus side. There can't be much room left in Cellino's tummy to eat another manager.

20 Oct 2015 22:17:16
It's not so much talking up Evans, I just want value for my hard earned money, last time I saw us win was In March, it may not work but if he can get the players to play a bit more up tempo and get results then it's for the good, I don't agree with the manager merry go round, but he's here now and I just want to feel optimistic, had enough of the negativity.

20 Oct 2015 22:30:35
agree with Andy. firstly how does it make us a joke, not saying it don't but would like you to apply logic to that answer. Evans has always done kind of well where he has been, he has always had relative success everywhere he has been. I don't see how anyone can say he is a bad manager or he has not done a good job? I for one have not put I turst manager for every manager we have had, I hated hock with in five minutes and started the millwall chant of getting sacked in the morning nine minutes into his first game, and I think I was being kind by giving hock 8 minutes before slating him. the others have all warrented time and after some time (not long I admit) I have called for their heads (often before many others on this site) uwe had to go time was right (id of sacked him couple of weeks back but I am like MC's nasty brother) Evans however has had more success and been relavtivly better than any coach we have had in long long time, will he do it here? who knows but his c. v. is better than most and it would suggest he has a better chance than most others people have been calling for? everyone is entitled to an opinion but think stats or logic would be useful to back it up?

20 Oct 2015 22:58:50
Well said bw!

20 Oct 2015 21:37:06
Banned but I stll run Leeds and always will.

Our circus freak show makes PT Barnum look like a Russian tragedy.

20 oct 2015 20:02:02
just watched cellino on ssn, he faced the camera and answered the questions without looking away, he vows to fight on and appeal against his disqualification, a lot of his miss comings have arisen before he bought into us, personally i think he invested where others feared to tread and has a passion for our club, he's between a rock and a hard place with the fl and fans he could walk but hasn't and until someone else can put their money where their mouth is he should be respected.
good luck to evans as well, hope we kick on.

20 Oct 2015 21:10:03
Totally agree, it's alright telling Cellino to sell up and go, all you need to do now is find someone with the money to take over and make it happen?

LUST? Either put the money up yourselves or realise you can't dictate anything?

I'd be only too happy seeing someone else taking over but there doesn't seem to be a queue forming?

20 Oct 2015 21:26:29
i am a big fan of MC and hate LUST, think they have their own agenda try and stir things up but never do anything positive only try and spread negitivity which is not good for leeds. I only wish people would give MC time he was with his last club for many years and gave that club their golden age and best period in the clubs history. MC is clearly loyal (to club if not manager) and clearly achives his goals and does well. how have his last club done since MC left? got worse? that is what would happen to leeds should mc go. MC is the best thing to happen to leeds in long long while I really don't see how everyone can not see this? when was the last time we got a good price for player (ross MCcormack) or held onto players or spent more than a fiver on first team squad? yes he gets through managers but so do a lot of clubs (espically on the continant) now days so please please get off his back. No way around it love leeds you have to love mc without him their would be no leeds. God bless MC and his crazy antics.

20 Oct 2015 21:38:39
Go . go now. mc is a clown. the sad thing is he leads so many blinkered. like that other Itie Nero playing the fiddle while all around him burns. just go.

20 Oct 2015 22:13:43
Bermondsey I whole heartedly agree! I just worry about the direction of the club whilst he's not around, it's such a shame that Pearson left!
Onwards and upwards. Let's face it things can't go any worse than they are at the moment!

20 Oct 2015 22:17:24
Sorry BM but I don't agree with you on this one old boy (sorry) . Cellino may be the best thing that's happened to our club in a long time but that is only because the previous administrations have been crooks and it doesn't mean he's any good either, just the best of a very bad bunch! Ken Bates and then GFH would even make Saddam Hussein look good.

The fact is Cellino has an ego bigger than ER and uses the club to vent his spleen on a regular basis when half of his ramblings have nothing to do with Leeds United. He's made some very poor decisions, treats personnel with contempt and is a coward and bully. No wonder no manager with any credibility will come near us.

Yes, he has spent money on players, yes he did get a good price for McBadgekisser, but you'd expect any decent chairman to have done the same.
However, he does seem to go back on his word. He said he was going to buy ER back and he hasn't. He said two years and we will be in the premier league and now he's changed that. He made a rash decision about away tickets and has since backtracked. I wish he would engage his brain before opening his gob.

No-one will invest in Leeds now with this mad man at the helm and especially now the Pearson has gone. I only wish the rumours of AP fronting a takeover bid would materialise again as he would (in my opinion) be a much better bet than Cellino, but that wouldn't take a lot.

MM.

20 Oct 2015 22:36:01
have to say MM I can see your logic here maybe he is only good as I am comparing him to our other regimes (ken bates is not on my christmas card list) however he did do well at last club, I live in hope that he will get it right here as well (but then I like to live in hope as leeds fan that can be all we have)

20 Oct 2015 23:00:16
He got a good price for McCormack and. that's it mate.
Young players still at a ER beacause nobody bid for them. Plenty of interest but no concrete bids.

Show me any club who has any success while chopping and changing manager?
Cellino has been at Leeds 10 minutes and believes he is bigger than the club, but all he has done is drag the club through the mire.
For a while in the summer I almost believed in him, but now I hope and pray he goes asap. There must be a Leslie Silver out there somewhere?

21 Oct 2015 06:47:53
Excellent reply Corky lad. Good shout about Leslie Silver, unfortunately chairman willing to invest their own personal wealth for the love of the club they support are few and far between these days. In Leslie's day it wasn't all about the money, he just wanted to make the world dance, forget about the price tag!

Yes I know Dave Welan, Gibson at Boro etc. but there's not many (if any in PL), that's all I'm saying

MM.

20 Oct 2015 17:04:02
Cellino might just be working on the principle of trial and error. Unfortunately at the moment it's just error and error. He has tried the cheap fitness coach, the cheap brooding defensive type, the let's be chums and support my youngsters coach and the heavy metal (country Music) coach - also known as the negative defensive coach. Some have tried to play attractive passing football none have suceeded except for parts of some of the games. Wins have been hard to come by and lately (more so than before) there appears to be a lack of energy, passion, bite and desire. So now bring on the cheap 'if we can't beat playing pretty football let's kick them off the park' coach. I've seen Evans teams on a good few occasions and one thing they have in common they're not shrinking violets. They like the physical and doing a fair bit of kicking. Saw his team play Bradford not so long ago. It wasn't pretty and probably needed an 18 certificate. Bradford were kicked from one end of the pitch to the other for the full ninety minutes. Is that what being passionate and having a bit of steel means? Or is just lower division lack of class. That is, if they are better than you kick them and if they're not kick them anyway. Reminds me of Sunday Mornings on Middleton Clearings walking the dog and watching the local leagues. Could be an interesting couple of weeks. Might be different though and that can't be bad, can it?

20 Oct 2015 18:38:45
Makes the decision to suspend Steve Thompson (was he officially ever fired? ) the craziest worst decision by whoever (was the true firer even identified? ) ever and is costing us dearly.

20 Oct 2015 22:44:06
Hess, that's what's been missing for way too long at Leeds imo. I say if Evans gets 'em fighting hard for the shirt that can only be a good thing. The goals will follow, team spirit will improve massively and the future will quickly look a lot rosier. I believe this can still happen and I say bring it on. What the hell have we got to lose?

20 Oct 2015 14:07:24
hi all,

not been on here for ages as been busy with work and family stuff (think it is very rude that these trivial things get in the way of both leeds and this forum) . Firsty Uwe, don't hate the guy but was given long enough imo to judge him and he was not good enough. too negitive and kept making the same mistakes and most importantly was not getting most out of the players.

So to Steve Evan. no I don't like him but as leeds boss I now have to until he gives me reasons to hate him, he did get rotherham promoted (which I would say is a bout the same size taskas getting leeds into prem) he does seem to unite players and get best from them. I say give him chance until we see he is not upto it. I think he will do better than people expect.

finally to MC, I love him, if not for him there would be no leeds, he has invested more than any other chairman in long while, he cleaerly is a passionate football man who wants the best for his club (that is us btw) he might not always say the right thing, he might be a little bit mad but we could do a lot worse (ken bates and blackpool make my arguement there)

so to the future, to Mc getting us back where we belong and to SE getting us playing better, I also predict wood to imporve a lot under new boss, some people have slated wood but he is good and proven at this level MOT.

20 Oct 2015 14:31:49
Did watch some of "big boy (OK Fat) steve" press conference and he seemed OK to me, fairly at ease and seemed to know what it was all about so like Bermondsey we should all give him a chance as if he gets it right then Leeds do.

As I have said a load of times on here the team/squad is much better than results since the Derby game, which I think is won 1 drew 1 lost 4 in the last 6 and was no sign really that anything was due to change. We move on, I don't care how mad MC is, it is about the team/manager so I'm behind big steve (not that you can see anyone behind him) his record on 3 promotions in last 4 seasons and keeping tiny rotherham in championship is as good as anyone's record really (anyone who we could get) .

And a final point I believe SE will pick the team no issues so unless we have proof in the future I just think all that stuff is just going to be made up as this guy ain't going to take no shit as seems a old fashioned straight talking Scottish geezer hopefully his style is just what we need right now for this season.

20 Oct 2015 14:49:49
We're all Leeds aren't we, let's give the man a chance, you never know it could work, on the law of averages we must be due some good fortune at some point.

20 Oct 2015 15:19:32
BW Welcome back bro.

20 Oct 2015 16:26:36
cheers speedy glad to know I was missed, it has been a long ten days.

20 Oct 2015 16:28:16
Bermondsey white,

You don't sound too convinced about Steve Evans? And you don't like him? Hmmmmm strange! I can't make it out, it is almost a year ago to the day that you slated me for calling him a muppet! In your words and I quote 'imagine what he would do with a squad like ours and a team like Leeds, he's the exact kind of muppet we need managing us. We should start being nice to Sir Steve Evans in the hope he becomes our manager'! Well. you got your wish, just thought you'd be a little more enthusiastic?

20 Oct 2015 21:37:23
well remembered fuzzy, glad my words mean that much to you, as it can not be a grudge can it? I think Steve Evans was a lot better than our coach at the time (was it hocK? ) also think Steve evans get promotion with teams that maybe shouldn't get promoted, think Steve evans gets best out of his playign squad. I do not like him as a person, and for me the best manager to get would of been nigel pearson. However no one can argue that Steve Evans has the best c. v and is the most successful manager we have had since maybe simon Grayson or before that George Graham. Some people have called for Gary Mac (2nd worst leeds manager ever record was poor considering how good leeds were and who we were playing) ) and glenn hoddle (what did he ever do other than talk rubbish on ITV and bore the life out of me as a commentatory) so I do think Evans is a good choice certainly as good as we can hope for at the moment. I thought my first post my quietly enthuisatic and positive was it not? you can quote me from a year agao but didn't see I said he will do better than most people expect? united players and get best from team and also pointed out getting rotehram up would be like getting us up so if he can do one hopefully he can do the other. It is sometimes hard to show enthusaims in posts so just to let you know while writing this I am so happy that I am dancing round the living room naked played marraccas :O)

20 Oct 2015 22:31:41
Bermondsey,

Excellent, that's more like it! A bit of naked dancing and marraccas playing never did anyone any harm, esp if helps boost morale and confidence! Grudge? Me? Never! Just remember you being quite excitable about SE, so thought you'd be singing and dancing! (Which, little did I know behind the scenes you are! ) keep it up!

Personally SE wouldn't have been my first choice, but have watched the press conference and thought he presented himself pretty well! I'm always pretty optimistic when it comes to new managers! But we'll see! Time will tell.

Keep up the banter Bermondsey.

20 Oct 2015 13:02:55
RIGHT. Evans is our manager now so like it or lump it!

All I am asking is we get behind him and not to go to the games and heckle and boo or whatever.

NO chants about pies or weight problems as we have had enough negativity lately.

Just go, cheer the team and our NEW manager on!

Jay OUT :-)

20 Oct 2015 14:19:45
I am guessing that's what most will do J. Trouble is, when will the bleeding stop, its a constant cycle of pain and humiliation, right now we are further from stability than ever. Who is going to run the club, there is hardly any middle management left with football knowledge, with Pearson went all promise. What must the players be thinking. We cry out for stability and get less than a weeble has, I guess at least like them we wobble but don't fall down. I only see more carnage on the horizon.

20 Oct 2015 12:10:53
Okay, enough is enough!
I ain't going along with the "lets get behind Fatboy and give him a chance" rubbish!
Haven't we done that enough lads?
For gods sake! Billy Smart never had this many clowns in his circus!
We need a total new start! Cellino out! Fatboy out! And all the other useless wastes of time OUT!
How can we EVER be great again when keep on backing the jokes that are ruining our beloved LEEDS!

20 Oct 2015 12:56:04
I take your point, and I can assure you, everyone is p*ssed off about this mess.
The only problem with your approach is that a completely new setup (directors and managercoach) would mean "rebuilding from the ground up" (again). This would take time, and us fickle fans would get bored of waiting to be brilliant again. We'd want the next lot out, and the next lot. Lather, rinse and repeat, always repeat.
MOT

20 Oct 2015 13:04:26
He is our coach now love it or hate it, so just throw away all the negativity and get behind him and the team :-)

20 Oct 2015 13:21:44
Sorry fella's but I have to disagree with your replies.
I have backed everything so far and where has that got us to date!
Nowhere!
If we keep on backing the same rubbish, how can we possibly expect to move forward?
I'm all for "if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it"but we have been broken for some years now and haven't even managed to put a band aid on it!
How can we keep on back the incompetence yet expecting/hoping for a different result!
Blind faith has got us nowhere!

20 Oct 2015 11:09:25
Remember Rotherham took 4 points off us last year. Evans is not as big a mug as some may think. Back to back promotions and keeping Rotherham in this division with very little money to spend. He may not be liked by the players (Burton players hated him) but his teams play attacking football. He's ok when there is no pressure but can he handle a big job like this. I have my doubts but wish him the best of luck. I come on this site because everyone is a genuine fan and not calling for boycotts of games like some on other sites are.

20 oct 2015 10:54:21
'm so rich but don't pay taxes what am i. answers on a post card.

20 Oct 2015 11:17:07
A member of the government?

20 Oct 2015 09:27:27
Good morning League 1. Remember us? Just giving you advance warning, we're coming to play in your league next season.

20 Oct 2015 06:39:35
I will never work for mc but does says it all good news it can't get any worse unless players end up over weight like evans . well we can look forward for at least 6games . as coach who will play for him any mew signings will say who are you . and not sign . you need a class manager to get a class players so a no go ther then . mc out again . up and down with more downs . get new players in and we all think YES but then 5 draws and bang over . is wood a main striker no he played of someone . wotton please go . so be interesting to see what team plays against Fulham and if any change in tactics . short at back . SOMEBODY GET IT RIGHT FOR ONCE . and start looking for manager to start before end November.