Leeds Banter Archive April 21 2014

21 Apr 2014 23:16:21
Right so we play 45 minutes like s*** then we come out first 15 minutes play well knock it around then mcdermott brings on smith? doesn't make sense is poleon injured? why isn't the boy starting over hunt. why is tonge starting over mowatt? also our defence (stating the obvious) is horrific. I can't believe how bad tom lees and wooton are sometimes it amazes me

Bring back the chief

22 Apr 2014 07:28:44
Tonge is startin before mowatt because he's a better player. Don't be blinkered by the fact he's homegrown because Lees and white are and they're not good enough either. After his showing last season I'm gutted young Dawson hasn't had a decent run in the team. Another thing I don't get is why after playin 5 at back and winning 2 on the bounce, we revert to 4 4 2 v forest, and then have no wingers?

21 Apr 2014 22:47:36
Get Ross to sign a new contract first then get shut of bmac & build a team around him. Simples.

21 Apr 2014 22:32:33
Why did BM change a team and formation that had just won 2 in a row. Not only that he pulled Murphy back and as good as played with 2 defenders.
These guys are still playing with no confidence and can't wait for the season to end.
We need a tactical manager who makes big decisions. Everyone in the ground knew smith would be more effective than hunt and that Murphy, after scoring a brace in last game would be more confident if allowed to push up.
Sorry Brian you are a nice guy and loyal, however some of your loyalty is misplaced in your recruits and your tactics are as slovenly as an 8 yr old playing fifa.
Please go now

21 Apr 2014 22:11:32
Brian McDimwit has been in charge for one year. Under him none of our home grown younger players have broken through. He has brought in useless has beens but in fairness even to them you cannot play musical chairs in every game. How can McDimwit talk about stability off the field when he chops & changes players, positions & tactics for every game. No progress, no idea.
Pleeeeeeeez sack him

{Ed013's Note - Mowatt?}

Mowwat has but chris Dawson would of probably been one of our main players but I don't even think mc doughnut has played him once

{Ed013's Note - Dawson had a big injury to come back from}

21 Apr 2014 21:43:56
After today definitely think we need a change of manager (thought originally that Brian would be good for us. Looking forward to an interesting summer of change, got getting too excited about next season though. Looking at all reports from club about structures and finance, looking at players and everything I think if Massimo can get us up by 2016 he will have done a fantastic job.

Heres hoping things get better every week and next season sets us up for the big one. If you can do it next year Massimo you will be forever a Leeds legend.

MOT

21 Apr 2014 21:24:25
Thought 2nd half was ok but rudi austin right wing? Scott wooton is a joke is it true we paid nearly a mil for him? And sime people say brian should be given a chance. why? So he can buy readings bench and reminuce about promotions gone by. joke

Most of the team is a joke. BmcD is a joke he looked like a lost boy looking for his mum

I missed the first half and only tuned in for the second couldn't believe my eyes when I seen Austin playing on the wing wtf he didn't have a clue (and I don't blame him ) I would have literally played anyone out on the wing then Austin haha.
I actually thought we played alright from what I seen but seriously how much possession and passing about before someone fancies talking a shot!

21 Apr 2014 20:38:08
In relation to the players who played today and the injured ones I would only like to retain as starting players McCormack, Murphy, Byram and Mowatt. For the squad I would retain Pearce, Smith and Austin and possibly Warnock.

We have to try and offload the rest I know some are out of contract and others have a year and one or two have two but if we are really serious about getting a promotion squad we need to have a mass clear out.

It is obvious to everybody who has watched Leeds this season that we have a massive shortage of pace all over, even our best player is not the quickest although he has many more attributes that stands him out as one of the best players in the division.

Lees a major prospect two years ago and one of our own is not quick enough and cannot play with the ball at his feet.Pearce a real trier but slow and struggles again distributing the ball. Wootton although I appreciate is being played out of position is a another slow player with no ability on the ball all three have to go when he can move on.

In midfield we gave no width Kebe and Stewart not good enough, we had Austin right wing today and Tonge basically playing left we were never going to get past their full backs with these two.

Therefore in my opinion we need 8 new players for the first eleven, a goalkeeper, two centre backs, a left back two wingers, a centre midfielder as I don't believe Mowatt is a starter yet and a centre forward to play with Ross.

We then need on top of Austin, Mowatt, Pearce and Warnock a number of squad players hopefully the core of those can cone from the youth system with one or two new ones.

Be interested in everybody's thoughts on the above

21 Apr 2014 21:02:08
Interesting post and whilst I agree with most of your post, Brown, Tonge and Pugh will be good as squad players for another season. Austin will be better as a defensive midfielder - what he was brought in for! I still think too many players have been asked to play too many positions and have been swapped around too much! This can effect players and ultimately teams at all levels! The team has not changed that much from the one winning at the start of the season! BMD tactics (or lack of) inability to coach or motivate has been the problem - the team has never had a chance to settle. IMO and we can all have one of those!

"In midfield we gave no width Kebe and Stewart not good enough"

Not sure what game you were watching today but I never saw these players in the ground, let alone on the pitch?

"we were never going to get past their full backs with these two"

We did get behind their full backs, just didn't get the ball in the back of the net.

For once Leeds just kept going and going, so despite the loss give credit where it is due?

Austin is the only person (in my opinion) that looked suspect, he can't give 90 minutes.

And we really do need to look at Butland? He is still shipping easy goals, despite the crap defence?

That first goal was diabolical.

"hopefully the core of those can cone from the youth system with one or two new ones."

Like BMD has already said, he won't play youngsters for the sake of it.

Maybe it's one of the reasons Byram has been plagued with injuries, he is a great player but his physical ability isn't there yet?

Agree with the retain list in the original post. But first we need BMD gone.
He obviously cannot motivate players, has little tactical nous and could spot a decent player if one was stood in front of him. Wootton, Stewart, Kebe and Hunt I rest my case. Also with nothing to play for let's get the kids in. How is Mowatt going to get experience and progress by sitting on the bench watching 37 year old Michael Brown.
BMD is clueless, MC needs to think years ahead and get a football man in one who can use the talent of our youth system and for me that would be Glen Hoddle

Austin is average to say the least, wooten is playing where he is told to play, he's not a byram type player. Our manager is clueless at best and I have no idea what system he is playing.
We need a forward thinking manager who recognizes we have to replace old

21 Apr 2014 22:46:50
OP here I never said Kebe and Stewart played today I was just stating we had no width today and these two are not the answer to providing it.

21 Apr 2014 19:08:20
Did someone say something about an electronic scoreboard?
Who is barmy on here?
Let's get into the Premiership and then worry about wasting money.
We need fabiulous hungry players who will run and fight all day long not stupid boards around the pitch.
Just made another enemy but that's life.
Jeff

"Just made another enemy but that's life."

Why do it then?

Jeff/survivor

I'm not going to give you any abuse, but you clearly have no concept of potential earnings, the electronic boards change as the game progresses, therefore, more advertisers and more money for the club, get real.

Ditto

AndyMOT

If we get in to the prem the advertising agency's would more than likely provide them FOC

21 Apr 2014 19:37:22
I admit I wanted McDermott, thought he would at least get us to the play off's, but I now admit that after the performances lately he has no clue whatsoever, we need new coach & at least 6 new players in various positions, Cellino the balls in your court, Leeds fans are the best but we're not stupid.

I am the exact same. I thought he would make shrewd signings at leeds like he did at reading, improve our playing style like he did at the end of last season and then fight for promotion this season then gain it well next season. The complete opposite has happened. His signings have either proved to be useless or if they do have quality have not been utilised well enough. Murphy, Stewart, wickham have all been poorly used where as butland has had all his confidence destroyed thanks to the woeful defence and the only saving grace along with murphy if he is played correctly is smith.
There is no tactics, no game plan and the playing style is beyond terrible. He has made leeds an embarrassment

21 Apr 2014 20:58:05
Not making any excuses for our inept performance, but why do we seem to get inept referees aswell. Think we could have 45 min injury time and still not scored!

Now the financial side of things looks to be settled you have to ask the question of BMD. Today the guys on the pitch kept going all the way till the final whistle, but it's obvious we are lacking in some areas.

21 Apr 2014 19:14:28
WTF 25 shots on goal and we get beaten 0-2 lots of effort but no cigar! Interested on thoughts with regard our best and worst players on the pitch - Hunt starting - has he got photos of BMD doing something he shouldn't?

Must admit it's the first time I realised Hunt was a Leeds player, let alone on the pitch.

Hopefully we can at least leave him out of the rest of the games if not permanently. He really is rubbish, and shouldn't be on the pitch if that's all he can contribute?

21 Apr 2014 18:18:51
First half - tactically clueless - can't see the wood for the tress (a pun of forest!) The defence are being exposed, feeling sorry for Wooton, out of position and looks lost and constantly caught out of position, plus long balls to the two shortest strikers in the league. If this is the best of McD's tactics I would expect him to be gone; lets's see if there is any redemption in the 2nd half.

21 Apr 2014 15:17:42
McCormack will stay at Leeds if Massimo gives him a new contract

But why is he asking for a new contract when he signed one 8 months ago, agents talking I think here. let him play out 3 years.

He's got a contract he signed in August why would he want a new one I wonder????

21 Apr 2014 14:40:52
Not Leeds related but I'm sure you would all like to know. Strong rumour Moyes is about to get the Spanish Archer. Titter ye not as the late Frankie Howerd was fond of saying .

{Ed013's Note - McDermott is replacing him ;-)

I'm with you ed, straight swap sounds ideal for all.

Hope you're wrong Ben. Don't think Moyes would be made too welcome.

Are u crazy, not made welcome. I'd have him in a second better than the dross we have had in 3 years

21 Apr 2014 14:14:25
It's been a while since I have posted on here but would just like to say after watching summer target wolves defender Stearman he looks like a solid defender with speed and no nonsense defending just what we need. Him and Pearce and the back would be great with lees as back up.

Hopefully players to leave will be Pugh, green, Norris, brown, ashdown, kenny, peltier, zaliukas, Tonge, hunt, diouf, Kebe, stewart, Morrison, wooton

Players to keep and who could do a job I think lees, Pearce, warnock, McCormack, smith, poleon, murphy, Austin, mowatt, Dawson, byram, white.

What does everyone think?

Austin? Not a chance!

I'd like to think we could get better players than Hunt but I think he's a better team player than he gets credit for on here. Also, isn't he on a longish contract? If so I suspect he's going nowhere.

Stewart's contracted until 2017 so nothing happening there. Also, he's young and might improve.

Tonge is useful, as is Pugh but I think they're out of contract along with Brown so I can't seem them being retained. I'd like to think we could do better but they're all useful squad players at this level.

White is a headless chicken. We desperately need pace but it's so much better when it comes with a brain attached. Ditto Poleon although maybe he's young enough to improve.

Lees looked so promising and deserved his U21 call up but he's been very poor this season. He's cost us a lot of goals and as for his constant hoofed long balls. Not sure.

Austin? Are you serious? He is the worst passer of the ball in the team (and that's a hard thing to achieve in a team this bad). Wins it spectacularly then just gives it back 80% of the time. Waste of a shirt.

"I'd like to think we could get better players than Hunt but I think he's a better team player than he gets credit for on here"

He gets the credit he deserves, NONE?

Exactly what has he done for the thousands of pounds Leeds have paid him?

No goals, No assists?

How can you justify this statement?

The sooner he's gone the better, even if we have to pay off his contract?

Bought in by BMD in return for an invite to his wedding, and been living off it ever since.

Done NOTHING!

What about Stearman?

21 Apr 2014 12:41:50
Think comments on RmC are a little unfair. In short, he's willing to commit his future to Leeds United and wants to lead the club to the Premiership. I think it's only fair that he looks for the same terms as those who've been brought into the club over the last year. He also will wish to secure favourable terms for the Premiership should we get there. For him to reject Premiership wages shows good faith on his part and will want to be met half way by the club. Perhaps MC saying he'd like to see him in Italy hasn't helped.

DrT
The players brought in have ALL said MC was off the mark when he said they were on 25k a week and Ross's demands for a new contract and more money!
Ummm he was happy when he signed his last contract at the beginning of the season?
maybe he's getting greedy with what he wants, hence it WILL force a move do it looks good on his part ;(

Agreed. If we had to bring in a replacement for Ross we would have to pay top dollar (with no guarantee that the player would be a success). Makes sense to give him a deserved pay rise and spend transfer kitty on other areas of the team which are currently very poor.

Just out of interest does any Statto nerd know how many assists RmC has got alongside his 30 ( after today) goals? I don't but I'm guessing it's a good few .

21 Apr 2014 12:10:38
Looking forward to today's game. I'm taking my old man to his first game in a couple of years. He used to go more often when I was a nipper. Can anyone else remember going to the old dog track opposite the main car park before a Saturday game? Dogs and then the match. Happy days!

Come on you whites!

MM

Used to go in the bar at the dog track before games, some right characters, sad day when it closed.

Would love to get my old man down to a game - he got me hooked back in 69 so why shouldn't he suffer?
As for Mrs Mick I find no such problem with her on those nights she's "at the gala bingo".

Ooops. half time might be the time to drown your old man's sorrows. Shame a pint isn't the same price as when your were a nipper. 1s 3d ;)

21 Apr 2014 11:01:58
All over news now that ross mccormack willing to snub premier league clubs to stay a leeds some good news if true mot

21 Apr 2014 09:41:56
I tried to post this once before and it didn't appear.
Next Monday is the Leeds United golf day at Moor Allerton golf club near my home in Scarcroft.
I'm playing with my friend Paul Bell who is the commercial director at ER.
If any of you wish to come to my club and make yourself known to the bar staff (Maxine or Mark) I will be happy to meet you and buy you a drink.
Can't be fairer than that can I.
Meet all the greats and watch them play.
Jeff