Leeds Banter Archive August 21 2018

 

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21 Aug 2018 22:14:25
Great point tonight against a team who will be up there end of season. Not many will score two at their ground and we just kept plugging away which was great to see. No heads went down and we looked like a team with proper spirit. Bielsa had a match tonight tactically with the Swansea boss who knows exactly what his opposition brings. Maybe lucky to get a draw but that's what good teams manage to do. MOT lads.

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21 Aug 2018 23:47:47
Good post Corkster.

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21 Aug 2018 23:48:47
100% agree cork. Was going to say pretty much the same. Kept plugging away and got our rewards with the draw. Last season after going a goal down. The going behind again it may well have ended up 3/ 4. So credit too the team. Beisla showed his awareness with Phillips alright. Got booked, gave away the ball they broke and scored. He got hooked. Be interesting too see if baker starts against Norwich. Not sure on Harrison at the minute. Still
Prob finding his feet. And will need too quicker . we’ll done too young shakleton. Last minute call into team. Set up first goal done a good enough job. Tho might have done better for their 2nd. Overall. Happy chap. MOT. ⚽️⚽️👍🙂.

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21 Aug 2018 21:40:46
That's a good point away from home!

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21 Aug 2018 22:30:45
Certainly is Brighty.

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21 Aug 2018 21:50:10
There you go Bermo. Kal had a mess of a first half, and hauled off. MB doesn't mess about!

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21 Aug 2018 22:34:37
i know it made my night. i love leeds and hate to see any player play bad. but then like MB i know football. i think if you look back i said I will say i told you so. after 30 mins against a decent side he is took off. i did say. and before anyone jumps on me. let's see kp play well against big team then say i told you so. any top team KP will fail. that is what he is average and average don't get prem. until I see otherwise sadly i will think i was right all along

that said I hope KP proves me wrong but seen enough of him to know he wont. sadly. on a plus baker and forshaw will see him out of the side. mb is no mug and like me knows what he saw.

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21 Aug 2018 22:39:36
Clearly one player isn’t entitled to have a bad half if Bermo doesn’t like them.

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21 Aug 2018 23:42:19
Stop it now Bermo. Phillips played well against Stoke the early season favourite and then derby one of the favs.
And to say it made your night is beyond taking the piss.
Stick with the milwall if that’s your attitude.

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22 Aug 2018 07:49:13
leave it out Cork

the early sub made my night not Phillips.
27 minute sub showed we have a brave manager who will make hard call and win us the point.

Most managers would wait until he saw red or the 60 minutes by when we have already lost. MB done it early and brave and won us the point

that made my night. saying stick to millwall says a lot about your attitue to be honest and has proper offended me. players on here always get stick, i remmeber being one of the few to stick up for wood, but phillips is golden for some reason.

and yes elland someone can have a poor half my trouble is he will never have a good half agaisnt a good team.

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22 Aug 2018 07:54:24
It's getting very boring now bermo 😴🤭zzzzzzzzzz.

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22 Aug 2018 09:02:38
It might not be palatable to some on here but BW is right regarding Phillips he's been around long enough in the team for most of us to know we need better.

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22 Aug 2018 09:09:26
Well said again Cork, everyone is entitled to their opinion but the language is over the top and the criticism repetitive and no Leeds fan should be celebrating the poor performance of a player.

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22 Aug 2018 09:34:15
thanks Aggro

Spanish not celebrating a poor performance, i would prefer leeds win 7-1 last night and phillps scores 6 but he didnt. laguneuage over the top? they don't let swearing on this site, thouse who have met me on here know my langauge is very colorful and know what i say is probably a lot worse and not suitable for posting on here. or for human ears.

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21 Aug 2018 21:56:52
Before our start you would take a point at swansea all day long. Well done the boys for digging in and coming back twice.

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21 Aug 2018 21:43:45
what a result

that is the kind of game we look back on . anyone can play a poor debry and win but away from home against a decent team and get a point. well played

swans were better but for years I have seen leeds outplay a team and lose or draw then i have seen that team go up

beradi falls into same cat as aling tonight, love align but he is not a CB and was poor tonight. you can not coach height we need a cb

said what i have about KP and leave that be

drop KP get a cb or two (depending on injuries) and we will go up. we finally have a team that can play, that can outclass poor teams, that can win yorkshire derbys and can get results against the odds. very pleased and over the moon.

after stoke, i wanst sure, against derby i wasnt sure, after roheterham i had hope. after tonight I genuinely believe. MOT.

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21 Aug 2018 22:16:41
Well said Bermo I was thinking the exact same.
Did your Mrs meet kalvin one night or what? 😜.

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21 Aug 2018 22:21:59
Still think we need a bit more quality and pace in final 3rd over the course of a full season,

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21 Aug 2018 22:50:51
i know cork and know I go on but in KP i just see a player who ain't good enough and will cost us promotion CM is such a important role and he is just not good enough. I say to all watch back all season . red cards givin ball away making defensive mistakes. he could of single handly cost us the stoke game ok he didn't but tonight he showed his class. and I bet when we look back over season every time he playes against a play off team he will do badly. that will cost us. i don't mind not going up, i just mind one or two players letting the whole team down and I think he is that much of a liabiltiy he will cost us if played against any top 6 team like swans might be. and his mrs is a sort.

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22 Aug 2018 04:39:53
What about kp at center back, Berm? 😂.

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21 Aug 2018 22:07:44
Oh and a central defender needed.
Try and thumbs down that statement.

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21 Aug 2018 22:17:54
Sorry, I couldn’t resist mate.

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21 Aug 2018 22:27:32
Sorry yebo you just forced me into leaving you a thumbs down even though I 100% agree with you.

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21 Aug 2018 22:06:17
Thought a couple of players not trying hard enough to stop the first goal.
Think we should give Blackman a run. The extra height is def going to help. Not saying bpf should of saved the 2nd goal but It didn’t look like it should of crept over him from there. Maybe I’m being extra harsh? (and I can’t stand McBurnie the mouthy oik)
But overall we dug in through adversity and an away point was in retrospect an excellent point.

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21 Aug 2018 22:20:49
Don't think any keeper would have saved the second goal. For me we didn't tackle hard enough to break down their play.

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21 Aug 2018 22:05:58
Wow! What an escape. Happy with the point but we could have nicked it - against the run of play. Tough days ahead and I’m hoping that the cooper injury has highlighted that we can’t manage with such a small squad. It was part of our downfall last year - playing people out of position. Let’s get the couple of players we need. MOT. Great spirit and work rate 👍🏻.

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21 Aug 2018 21:40:58
We are top of the league say we are top of the league!

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21 Aug 2018 21:50:15
A great point George and I’m delighted!
Good side Swansea and their manager is top draw.
Hats of to Hernandez playing so many games in a short time at his age.

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21 Aug 2018 21:50:46
Early days Georgie, I think tonight showed us just how tough it’s going to be! Great determination and resilience though!

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21 Aug 2018 22:04:18
Great substitution by Bielsa to take Phillips off once again showing his liability for me should be dropped for Baker now, sporny point unbeaten and top so we'll take it Swansea we're a big powerful team but we need our CBs back at the back we lacked height tonight.

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21 Aug 2018 22:42:15
agree aggro 100 %.

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21 Aug 2018 20:45:58
might sound odd but very pleased,

we have been out played, out fought and should be 3-0 down yet in at 1-1. getting results when against it, is a good team, a promotion team. anyone can win when goign well getting a draw against a good team when against it, when you don't desevre it is very pleasing

fair play shacks, i was harsh on him but great play

also pleased with MB. many will be annoyed with me and jump on me but sorry i am right phillips is uselss, he can't play agaisnt a decent team. ok against out of form sides but when against it, he is pony. can't tackle only fouls, can't pass only loses it (at fault for our goal although many will blame BPF which is also fair) an donestnt get involved. Phillps can not be part of a promotion team because he can contibute in big games. fair play to MB 27 minutes he relaised his mistake (picking the Sack of S@@T) and subbed him

this is a brave manager, a confident manager and a promotion winning manager and once left we got our oal. hope we stick in and get a result, if so it will be our best result of the season so far, first result that suggest promotion quality

finally please bring in a cb we are so short there in options and in actual height

MOT.

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21 Aug 2018 22:05:18
Neither outplayed nor outfought Berm. We played an away fixture against a former PL team. Had to expect them taking game to us. Negatives BPF needs work but good save at the end. KP could do with a rest. Positives Shacks top all-round performance, will retain his place. Ayling reliable and commanding presence. Douglas makes real difference, good passing. Impressive Baker. Harrison energetic. Bamford coming on. Good away point. If we recruit well in next 9 days we got a chance. Hint hint. Get Foyth in now!

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21 Aug 2018 22:09:47
Really, I think we know how you feel Bermondsey, but until we get any better, Phillips is going to be in or about the squad and if he wears the shirt, he deserves our support and encouragement. He’s learning in the position and tonight the poor performance of the whole team at the start of the game put him under a lot of pressure and it showed. Don’t forget, it’s Bielsa who picks him, so he has to take responsibility if he sticks with him. Interesting to see what he does against Norwich. Whether he sticks with Klich and baker and see how they do. Phillips has also started every game and he wasn’t the only one who looked off the pace tonight.

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21 Aug 2018 21:51:19
Not sure why you got any thumbs down BW, you are bang on. Grinding out results against very good teams with a top manager who isn't scared of making early changes. Far better place than we have been for a long time.
We do need a loan CB from the Prem though!

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21 Aug 2018 21:53:17
Bermo I thought you was going to leave it alone pal!
We were way off the pace early doors not just Phillips.
Anyway a great point against a good side.

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21 Aug 2018 21:57:59
Phillips was playing poorly and was rightly hooked. Not got an issue with that. Not going to accept that he has not played well for opening 3 games. This season he has been a 7 out of 10 player, tonight he was a 3 out of ten. If he performs consistently at anything less than 7 out of ten then he doesn't deserve to play.

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21 Aug 2018 22:11:42
Agree ref central defence Bermo
We are Short and Short
Two options. 💂🏻‍♀️🎩.

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21 Aug 2018 21:19:41
He subbed him because he got booked, and he doesn't want to lose him on a red. End of. Not a great start from the lad, but hate him as much as you like, MB rates him, and I respect his views.

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21 Aug 2018 22:25:41
Great post Notts White and also other Woody below supporting KO. Bielsa took KP off, because he was looking to change the game, it didn’t mean he thought he was useless or s. te in all the other games. It’s fair to criticize constructively, but going over the top in destroying our own players doesn’t make any sense! If Bielsa shared That view on Phillips he wouldn’t have earmarked him for that role and picked him.

If you think Phillips is Sh. e and Bielsa keeps on picking him, blame Bielsa!

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21 Aug 2018 22:29:12
that is my point notts KP gets away against poorer teams and can even look good. but against the better teams he will always give what he gave tonight. this is his celling he will never be a top player, and that will cost. play agianst poor teams. cheer him on watch the pass then in play offs what him play so bad he only last 30 minutes and then we don't go up.

I will leave it be but said before I told you so and tonight showed. few off pace but only one taken off before half time. says it all. I predict we will see less of KP which is all I wanted as he will cost us as he nearly did against stoke (sending off and last conrner should of cost us)

I love leeds but think i understand football and just see that KP will cost us big time. yes MB picks the team and yes MB knows more than me but tonight I screamed at TV get him off.2 mins later he was subbed. maybe me and MB are on the same page.

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21 Aug 2018 22:37:06
also george you don't think we were outplayed and out fought (by fought i don't mean effort i just mean physically by bigger stronger team) ? at half time and full time for that matter we should of lost, they had more of everything apart from cutting edge and quality and for me that is the biggest plus for tonight. love to see leeds not be the best team but get something. that is promotion.

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21 Aug 2018 22:39:58
wow i have had a drink and on one. subbed bright due to being on a booking not due to being usless tonight. bet we never see another 27 minute sub due to booking again . that never happens. he was subbed due to being really really really really x 100 poor. I would say as bad a performance as I have ever seen in leed shirt ever

for every good thing he did in that half i will give you a tenner for every bad thing you give me 20p see who is up when you watch game back.

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21 Aug 2018 20:41:28
Morning lads (0536y) from Sydney . Some of you be pleased to know it's a tad cold in this City today.
But that run and pass from JS would warm me up on a cold Yorkshire winters morning. What did KP do to be pulled off . no pun intended there . MOT.

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21 Aug 2018 20:43:51
Losing ball leading to their opening goal, rash challenges, generally not at it and the booking.

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21 Aug 2018 20:46:30
Gave the ball away a lot, mid controlled it several times and the Swansea midfield had too much pace for him, already had yellow card, he also gave ball away when they broke to score I think.

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21 Aug 2018 21:28:48
it was due to MB taking 27 minutes to realise what i have been slated for saying KP is not good enough at the top end of this league. he was slow, lacked quality, pace and looks like a sending off waiting to happen. don't think he made one successful pass gave away foul after foul and was at fualt for their goal. KP great against lesser teams. useless against the better ones. a team with KP in it don't go up.27 minutes in MB realised this. shame I ain't a coach at leeds could of saved him 27 miuntes.

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21 Aug 2018 22:07:07
Get off the fence on KP Bermo.

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21 Aug 2018 21:46:29
sorry but who gave me thumbs down for this, been getting thumbs down all the time and take no notice but whoever did this own up and say what part of my post is wrong, why the thumbs down. if a 27 minute sub don't give all of my KP posts credance then nothing does. a thumbs down to me is a thumbs down to Mb. and in Mb we trust.

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21 Aug 2018 21:49:35
KP is still learning the game

Bielsa will make him better. You’re going to have to accept we’re not buying the finished articles. That’s why we’re now paying the big money out for a top level experienced coach rather than taking a punt on a “ promising young ‘un”

Players will have good days and bad

Never get too high with the highs and too low with the lows

Outplayed tonight but unlike last year had the stomach/ backbone to get a point

Of such things, champions are made

Keep the faith.

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21 Aug 2018 21:57:06
Thanks lads . good result.

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21 Aug 2018 22:31:32
sorry woody can't polish a turd. he will never be good enough bit like mowatt decent but not good enough. if we are looking for top half finsh love KP if we are serious about going up. he does not and never will be good enough, sell him to barsnley and let him dissapear like mowatt did. I predict that will happen. time will tell if i am right.

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21 Aug 2018 20:37:17
Shackleton looks alright. One moment when he was closed down very quickly on his first touch and he kept his composure and some neat footwork to get out of trouble in his own half and the second moment for the assist. Maybe one for the present?

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21 Aug 2018 20:41:13
Bielsa has seemed to pick Shackleton out early on. Clearly likes him. Great experience for the lad and he is playing with confidence, the run and assist was first class, great ball in. Also interesting to see the early sub, hopefully going to make the difference.

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21 Aug 2018 20:46:36
i was hasrh on the lad but fair play to him, tonight will be a proper test for the lad and so fair not bad at all.

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21 Aug 2018 20:46:36
Shakey looks very capable to me. Can't wait until Jordan Stevens develops then we'll have Shakin Stevens!

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21 Aug 2018 21:55:34
Stop it George that’s just terrible mate.

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21 Aug 2018 20:35:55
Tougher start but back in it now great ball from shackleton. We can take this now. MOT.

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21 Aug 2018 20:31:08
The Roofe is still on fire 🔥 1 - 1.

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21 Aug 2018 19:47:08
Cooper injured in the warm up. Centre Back required Radz and Co. Good luck to Shackleton thrown in at the deep end.

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21 Aug 2018 20:19:56
A prime example of how poor our recruitment policy was this summer.

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21 Aug 2018 20:34:32
Some pass he pulled off for the Roofe man.

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21 Aug 2018 20:48:30
Poor recruitment, Douglas, Bamford, Harrison, Baker? Bielda doesn’t think we need more defenders. Perhaps Pontus and Cooper are helping to change his Mind!

He could have gone with Shaunessy tonight and took a braver decision to play Shackleton and move people around. That effected the start, but great experience for the lad and what an assist.

Let’s see what effect the team talk has!

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21 Aug 2018 21:29:33
Spain the world and its mother knows we need a cb.

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21 Aug 2018 22:08:34
Is that Wex moaning again!

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21 Aug 2018 20:56:45
Poor recruitment? It's the best summer we've had for donkeys!

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21 Aug 2018 19:45:28
noooooo lost cooper in warm up. silver linign may force us to loan in a CB which we need! worrying as coops ain't been too bad this season.

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21 Aug 2018 19:42:13
Is anyone else worried that it won't be long before teams learn our tactics / style of play, and how to deal with us? We started last season well but ended up poorly.

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21 Aug 2018 20:13:20
Nope, all premier teams know Man City's tactics etc, but they execute it so well l, they still blow teams away. We need to keep it going and execute to perfection and it won't matter whether they know our game plan.

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21 Aug 2018 21:58:36
no MB team differnt to TC team. MB team can play, can grind out results, fights. TC flatered to decieve against the lower team crumbled against the bigger boys and in scraps. from what I have seen I think we have it all, just need numbers in CB playing to RB at CB is never the answer at any level, but fair play we did that away aginst a in form big boy and still got a result. all reasons to be happy.

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21 Aug 2018 18:56:49
Surprised pablo is starting, thought he may be on the bench and baker given a start (fresh legs) to be hoped nothing happens to cooper tonight, shows we need another cb in the loan market, hopefully a hard fought 2-1 win tonight, although I do think a point there would be a good result . apparently we are after a centre mid in loan market, once forshaw is back will we need one? . I would have thought another striker or winger would have been more important (priority being cb in my opinion)

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21 Aug 2018 19:32:00
good point made about pontus. I do worry if he is injured or just wants out. seems a odd time to play up as that is not his way and poor time as we are looking good. always a worry though?

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21 Aug 2018 19:46:27
Bloody hell Alaw!

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21 Aug 2018 15:00:58
watching our season highlights in warm up to tonight game. tell you what I love most about this team. the directness.

Yes we play ticki tacka football but many don't understand the best part about this football is being direct. like city whos keeper got an assist the way to do it is play short and direct and mix it up. Our goal against rotheram is perfect for this, lots of nice little passes then one long ball bang roofe score. Wenger and Arsenal try and walk in to the net, great when it works but often dont

us like city and liverpool (not saying we are as good) have the balance right IMO.

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21 Aug 2018 16:21:05
Swap Hendo, Wijnaldum, Keita, Mane, Firmino and Salah for Phillips, Klich, Hernandez, Alioski, Saiz and Roofe and Liverpool would walk the PL and win the CL Final this time. Can't have the bucket though.

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21 Aug 2018 17:10:31
You've definitely been in my meds cabinet george.

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21 Aug 2018 17:12:02
Are passing is miles better so far this year which always help, just worry whether we can keep up the intense play going into two games a week .
With players out injured think we will start calling up the u23's .

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21 Aug 2018 17:18:40
AB could definitely learn a thing or two from BPF as well.

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21 Aug 2018 18:57:37
Aussie, can you lend GIW some of your meds? Martyn’s don’t seem to be working.

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21 Aug 2018 19:15:32
And Ayling can teach Alexander-Arnold how to cross.

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21 Aug 2018 19:33:45
again I agree with george. twice in a week!

in all seriousness not liverpool they are amazing but saiz and aling could do a good job in prem for most teams, I honestly think saiz is better than sakiri and his hips don't lie.

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21 Aug 2018 08:36:19
The under 23s keeping the good start going with a hard fought 0-1 victory away at Millwall! Alfie Macalmont, scored a very nice goal and seemingly dominated the game for us. He has come up from the under 18 side. No mentions of Roberts, who was in the team.

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21 Aug 2018 08:28:39
Got a good feeling about tonight, think we will sneak it 2-1 with Roofe and Saiz getting the goals. MOT.

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21 Aug 2018 08:54:07
Another fascinating game to watch. They were lucky against Birmingham, they had 69% of the possession but no shots on target. If it becomes a battle of ball playing we should have more attacking threat.

Would make sense to rest Hernandez, but it is Swansea and lots of speculation that Alioski will be rested. Either way, chance for Harrison .

Hard to see Swansea scoring a lot of goals, so I’m going to be bold and predict a clean sheet for us!

0-2 to Leeds.

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21 Aug 2018 10:38:13
Klitch first goal again.

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21 Aug 2018 14:28:49
I'm with you Spanish. Two nil to us.

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20 Aug 2018 23:30:56
Ed001 Any time you want to return Milner home fine by me. Cracking lad and player. Never deserving of your criticism in George opinion.

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{Ed001's Note - he is playing well now, but he was dreadful when he first joined us. Great attitude though.}

21 Aug 2018 09:08:59
You won't finish lower than runners up this season.

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21 Aug 2018 12:06:27
Man city and Liv look on a diff planet to the rest. Close call between the two. They will leave the rest for dead.
Milner has always been brilliant👍.

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{Ed001's Note - he did struggle for a while in central midfield, though that was under Rodgers and he could make Pele look like an amateur footballer.}

21 Aug 2018 13:06:04
liverpool and city looking really good, almost as good as leeds at the moment, i hear pep said he was glad we were in championship as we would be his main threat.

have to say i sdo love watching city and liverpool so entertaining.

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{Ed001's Note - I would say the same about Leeds, very entertaining to watch and I am looking forward to watching them again tonight.}

21 Aug 2018 13:59:44
Agree bw.
Man c and Liv playing dream football.

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21 Aug 2018 14:17:25
A lot off my non Leeds work mates are now saying they are enjoying watching the Leeds games as it’s great entertainment. And are the same ones who hates dirty Leeds also. So everyone’s happy with dirty Leeds. ⚽️⚽️👍👍😂.

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20 Aug 2018 23:28:29
That heated debate between Nev and Carra was class.

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