Leeds Banter Archive December 22 2011

22 Dec 2011 21:03:03
Just a long shot and me being suspicous, but since the away fans have been out priced and moved into cardboard cutout stand, it appears to have given the away team a bigger incentive to win. If I were a manager/player I would want to prove a point more than ever in beating us for the few that have made the trip and show that we are an overpriced, average team! The atmosphere has gone and even where I am in N9 the Kop it has lost its voice! Like I said it may be a way, way off theory and no I havnt been sniffing ths sherry but may turn into an alcoholic if we dont improve!

MOT

I started my Xmas brandy bottle after the Barnsley game.

Well I'm in N11 for Burnley so a few good chants might get started (lets start now)

We all love Leeds and Leeds and Leeds...

I cannot understand the reasoning in moving the away fans. Away support has diminished due to the high ticket prices in West Stand; Atmosphere dreadful (no banter in West Stand between home and away) and Elland Road is becoming more like a soulless, sanitised premiership ground rather than the famed atmospheric stadium we used to have. Away fans moved and performances suddenly drop- is there any link?

22 Dec 2011 17:09:39
i dont think grayson is the man to take us back into the premiership but with the limited funds and 2nd rate players we seem to buy... who could do better?

Er,who do you thinks buying the second rate players ,doh.

Lonergan, mccormack, clayton, kis (when we first got him), somma on his day is a very good striker, sam doesnt do too bad in the right position, theyre not 2nd rate players in my view, every manager makes crap signings thats the world of football

22 Dec 2011 16:13:38
How can anyone on here call our fans a disgrace the only person you can say that to is the man that love to lie to the fans and that bates saying to leeds fans stay patient he says that every window to try and keep us on his side bye bye bates you've done enough of making our club out to be just one big joke

Bye bye? You know of a buyer then? No other way he's going anywhere.

22 Dec 2011 15:27:09
Good to see Bates announcing home form must improve or SG will be sacked. Right move in my opinion. This can't go on like this. Unfair on SG because he has not had the money to spend but I think the real problem is that his backroom staff (Miller and Snodin) are not quite good enough to take us into the Premiership. I blame poor home form on all 3 personnel rather than just Grayson.

Source: Sky Sports

Agree with your post in the main except the money part Grayson has had money to spend, & he has had money from the sales of players he has said both publicly.

Us fans have to take some blame. the players go out at ER just waiting for the boo boys to start.

22 Dec 2011 14:33:40
ken bates really is a plantpot. stating we need to go up or grayson gets the axe and that becchio is the reason we have misfired???

to me he is suggesting the following with his recent statements

players will be sold on the cheap and there will be no major movement to the team as he is not wanting to invest his pension on our promotion, grayson is in a no win situation as he wont have the funds he would like to bring in the quality and becchio will be sold as bates is already bad mouthing him in his paper the YEP whic only writes what papa smurf allows......

Ken Bates is far from a plant pot, the fans want public interaction then when they get it they call him a plantpot you are a disgrace. No player has been sold on the cheap why would he do that. You want the truth bates gives you it then you still moan, when he says nothing you moan he cant win why because he is Ken Bates, tell me with facts what is it that Ken bates has done that requires for him to leave in disgrace, I don't want conjecture I want true facts, hit me with something. Leeds are making a financial profit we are investing in our youth system we are investing in commercial & corporate departments that will bring future revenue and security for our club for years to come. You all forget that Simon Grayson has said publically he has revenue he is happy with it, he has also been given money from player sales what more can Bates do if Simon Grayson chooses not to spend that money is that Bates fault for the plantpot rose tinted brigade yes it is for anyone with common sense who can see the bigger picture it is clear that the manager gets a free ride while all pressure is put on Bates. Lots of people on here complain about wage cap there is no such wage cap or ceiling price Grayson and Harvey have a financial budget that is amongst the highest in the league yet people criticise bates for not paying enough wages do you want to be run like Bristol City? Really to remind you debts of £11.45m after tax for the last tax year losses of £11.8m the year before and loses of £6.5m for 2009 thats £29.75m in 3 years now if bates was doing this to Leeds then fair play moan. I don’t understand the complaints that our club holding companies are registered in tax havens shock horror this makes business sense we spend less money on HMRC would you rather we pay them money I wouldn’t, the majority of high street businesses are set up in exactly the same way.

Beckford,johnson,kilkenny- free agents, think thats on the cheap. grella, michalik, schmeichal, gradel.

i agree with what hes doing with the club but where is the delph/gradel/schmeical money?? not to mention the revenue as its probably the most expensive ground for ticket prices.

Ken Bates is more ofa plant pot than the flower pot men. I am not an expert in company law & i understand if you have been a director of a company that goes into bankrupcy you cannot be a director of another company for 7 years, so how has Bates managed it.

There is more overheads to a football club than just players wages and transfer fees Re the money from player sales well if you beleive Grayson that its sat in a transfer kitty waiting for him to use it. Dont blame bates blame sg for not doing that.

Re Leeds bankrupt Leeds did not go bankrupt they entered into administration the two are worlds apart and involve different terms on directors, Nic that you was trying to be smart, just not smart enough. Ken bates had to comply with Bates and the other directors obtained the permission of a court to act as directors of the new Leeds United Football Club Ltd, as required by s216 of the Insolvency Act.

22 Dec 2011 11:38:25
Confirmed by KB that Grayson needs to deliver this season or he will be sacked.

Thank god for that at least we no by next season we will have another manager and then and only then leeds will get back to the prem.

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4014619/Simon-Grayson-I-fear-the-axe.html

Confirmed by the sun lol

Its also on SSN. This is pressure Grayson doesn't needs and who are we going to have that will get us to the Prem on a tight budget. If Grayson goes I can see the next few years a time where we have 2 or 3 managers as things will go wrong. We need to stay with 1 manager and keep building, if we miss Prem next this time then we will come back stronger next time. Keep the faith.

MOT

Grayson is not the man for the job all he is building is a average squad and a split in the fans.

Whether Grayson is the man for the job or not even the humble fan knows where our weaknesses are and without pumping cash in how the f**k does Bates think Grayson will improve? If you don't trust him get rid of him and give the new boss some cash, if you do want him then give him the money.

Currently going into the festive period lying 6th in the league, with a so called average team is not bad going at all. lets see were we are at the end of the season,but for now get behind the team we all love. mot

I hardly feel how commenting my true feeling on a Leeds banter page is an example of me not being behind the team. I’m a season ticket holder I'm not a so called arm chair fan, I’m not a so called fan that boos the team or sings and chants against bates and gets on the teams back so i feel it is acceptable to discuss my true thoughts on a discussion page with Leeds fans. I do not feel that Leeds are or will go anywhere under Grayson, I believe him to be tactically inept, he has made terrible media comments, he is at the helm of a split and divided dressing room, he has a squad of 28 players and the majority are average, he does not rotate the team, he has accepted publically that he has transfer finds to spend and that he has been given the money from player sales, he has a wage budget that is amongst the highest in the league he has an excellent youth system in place with quality players coming through can h nurture them, all in all the above gives me no confidence in Grayson as our manager, if he was so good why did Blackpool fans cheer when he went, why has he not been given a job in the premier league, why cant he sort out our defence, why does he play the long ball game, why does he sign journey men i.e. Brown and Miek Taylor rather than trust the youth players or sign a up and coming talented player these are all valid points and I have more but I will await the tinted brigades response to provide them.

I like to know where these rumours of a split dressing room come from- just because some people say it doesn't make it true..or did you read that in the Sun? By the way Bates said the same thing three weeks ago..I wonder if those naughty little sun journalists with their unblemished characters are just stirring things up a bit. Grayson will either get us into the play odds is season, or he'll go. It doesn't take much to work that out, even for the average sun reader.

Should be exciting the play odds we have never been there. Btw have a word with O'brien, Brown, Bruce, Bromby, Rachubka, Vayrynen, Nunez, Forsell, Becchi and ask them about the split Grayson has a first 11 and thats it.

Have you asked them? Or did you read that somewhere else. Read this and believe it then: the world is flat...now spread it around and people like you will believe it's true!