Leeds Banter Archive February 22 2015

 

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22 Feb 2015 22:22:38
If we were at top end of table and it depended on fluky deflections on whether we went up or nt does anyone really care how they go in, yes in a perfect world we all want 30 yrd screamers but i'd take off the backside goals if meant ninety nine million pounds in our coffers!! let's get real mot

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Their net, not ours = result

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22 Feb 2015 18:04:47
Absolutely brilliant win yesterday, thought as a team we played as well as I have seen LUFC play for some time. However my "thought of the week" is "why do footballers cheat", very simply, because they are allowed to. At the side where there is no linesman, almost invariably when taking a corner kick, the ball is outside the "D". When taking a throw in, do you ever see the ball thrown in, (and do players actually know how to take a throw in) from where the ball left the field. It is not unusual for a player to advance sometimes upto ten yards. The cheating at freekicks was so blatant, the refs now have to draw a line from where the kick should be taken, and also a line where the players have to stand. Feigning injury is common place, you see it, and all the other fore mentioned on a weekly basis. When oh when is football going to follow most other sports, (rugby league, tennis, cricket) by asking a "third" person to have a look at sometimes a contentious issue. Chelsea yesterday should have had at least two blatant penalties, Burnley should have had the same man sent off twice, it doesn't matter if you hate Chelsea or not, this happens at most games week in week out. Watching Southampton v L'pool, the L'pool keeper was half a yard out of his box when he handled the ball, nothing given, If a video ref been in use, he I have no doubt what so ever, would have seen these "incidents" and the correct decision would have been given.I could go on, I'm sure most of you can add other "incidents" that go unpunished by the refs, (incidentally I think (would you believe) the standard of referees this year has been abysmal), just to finnish, If LUFC don't lose there next two games, I can see Neil Refearn getting Championship manager of the month, but then who gives that prestigious award, is the FL, if it is then I wouldn't put it past them even if we win our next two, to award it to someone else, rant over, MOT

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The opposition had 27 attempts and we barely touched the ball . but yeah we played well.

Here's hoping we show a bit more bite on Tuesday.

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Smitch don't you think them having so many attempts and us still keeping a clean sheet show our resilience? We've done a double on two promotion contenders, serious ones

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A bit more bite? What are you talking about mate? I know we can play and keep hold of the ball better, but its been years since I saw a Leeds team with that much togetherness and BITE! Maybe i've missed your point?

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Smitch matey
I was beginning to think your earlier post might have been tongue in cheek but now you are at it again.Pleeeeeeeeease. Can we worry about the pretty football and dominating games when we are boringly mid table in the PREMIERSHIP? Let's just get out of this league by grinding out results even if we are not on top. And I know you don't wanna hear this but I now think we might have the coaching team to get us there, with a few (3 or 4 maybe) astute summer buys. Oh and by the way, despite what I have just said, I think we may well lose to Brighton on Tuesday (thankfully I'm not great at predictions)

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Eds lol. Can't we even post swear words now that are censored or have asterisks? My posts are only going to be half as long :)

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{Ed003's Note - There was no need whatsoever for swear words,asteriks or not Speedy :) }

Fair enough :)

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22 Feb 2015 14:28:57
No one could ever call me negative but did you see Silvestre, all those saves, Never once caught the ball?
Did you see Bamba; played okayish but missed a sitter. what's that all about? What was Mowatt doing. Can't he learn to shoot straight without hitting a defender Poor show I call it.
Get rid of them all let's have someone who can do a job.

If we want to prop up the defence can we play "goalie when needed"
But seriously.
Marvellous team job second best for most of the match but for bodies on the line, a masterclass. "They shall not pass" There must have been a few tired legs getting out of bed this morning but the whole team will be walking a little taller

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Re Mowatt's last 2 goals I thought he had deliberately played it off their defenders to fool the goalkeeper. Are you telling me that was accidental.
Maybe he's not as good as we thought! :)

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22 Feb 2015 15:37:43
Mowatt does not wish to be good just lucky a goal is a goal whether. It's a 30yard screamer or a 2inchtap in

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Mowatt is the new fat frank lampard meets steve davis, why score directly when you can pocket it in from off of the cusion. Also on silvestri it is true he don't hold much but then not many keepers do now days. If you lot want to see a keeper make a save and hold onto the ball you will have to come down to bermondsey and watch me play, it is like my gloves are covered in poly grip

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Actually BW you are right. Hadn't really thought about it, But Silvestri isn't alone in punching far too often. Not that many keepers these days that dominate their areas like wot they used to. Thankfully now we have La Bamba (please sign him asap), there's less need for Marco to be all conquering. Still wouldn't mind him borrowing a pair of your gloves though

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22 Feb 2015 11:32:54
Hello it's me again, Mr Negative, not as negative as SMitch obviously but I am now worried. I have just read that Redfern thinks the play offs are achievable. Mathematically maybe but it's not going to happen, after all we are still closer to the relegation places than the play offs.
I know he probably gave the interview straight after the game and was feeling a bit giddy but I think this kind of comment can only put pressure on the players.
Well I'm off now to change my site name to 'The Grim Reaper' unless anyone else wants it? SMitch? :)

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Sorry disagree, almost every year a team comes from no where to get in play offs and often win it as they have momentum. I'm sure palace went from bottom at xmas to get promoted, reading also did similar. we won 8 in 7? keep that up and why not us? all redders is saying is he expects to win games, that should be a requirement not overachiveing

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Redfearn said they should aim for the play offs. Now I don't think he believes we will get into the play offs but we may aswell aim high, give the team something to drive towards. Crazier things have happened!

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22 Feb 2015 15:39:55
I'm just hoping we are nearly
safe in this league

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Hang on you've spelt realistic wrong. You put negative.

we were outplayed yesterday, Boro took the mick, not lying

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I went yesterday, underpants in the wash soon as I got home,
However, the lads stuck to there tasks and chased every ball, this is a young team that will get better by the game and we should get behind them, I don't think the team or the fans there yesterday saw in our eyes anything else but a win.

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23 Feb 2015 08:18:47
end of day 1-0 no we were not great gave ball away hence came back at us also when they attack defence dropped back to far and midfield nowhere but that's also how we played against Bournemouth it worked but not nice for us to watch but sometimes three points is more important . but we do need to keep ball when clearly out of defence and take ball to them so yes I think 3 points was important at this stage of season . got two games now that we can win another six point and other teams will start to look at us as we climb up table .we still need more goals .

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22 Feb 2015 10:40:12
Excellent result, awful performance. I do like watching my beloved team outclassed and made to look like a team 4 divisions lower. Fantastic work rate but we can't play as badly as this every week. If that was a boxing match, we would have had our face caved in we were that inferior.

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Well Smitch. Sometimes we agree. Sometimes we disagree.
On this occasion TOTALLY disagree. That was a gutsy gritty type of performance that we have been lacking for years, and it's that sort of performance we are going to need often to get us out of this division

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Smitch, I don't know what you expect when we play from home against a team that were top of the table and look nailed on for promotion? In general the onus is on the home team to take the game to the away team and will in theory dominate possession. What we saw yesterday was a classic away performance and every player put in a shift. It's as much what you do without the ball as what you do with it. Having said that we still had a couple of great chances through Wooton and Bamba to make it two although even with my Don Johnson Rose tinted specs, doubt we deserved to win 2-0!

Great performance!

MM

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Wow and I thouhgt I was negitive. we were away to the top of the table team, we robbed them early in the season so they wanted this. We were always going to be on back foot, they do not conceed many and have not lost at home for six months. What we did was work hard and give a fantastic professional and sensible performance. It was better than winning 6 nil and I will tell you why. They did not play bad, they did not fall apart, we just beat them we did not bomb foward or play tippy tappy we played well and had a game plan and got three points. Amazing result and anyone who says different doesn't understand football. as a boxer it would of been one of them fights where you get beaten up but pull out the knock out punch and get the win. Nuff Said innit

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So Smitch, we play like a team 4 divisions lower, by my reckoning that takes us to the Conference North, so we are on par with Harrogate Town?

Have a word with yourself!

Yes they were a better team but we had resolve and grit with some class coming through. I would prefer that than a fancy performance with 0 points

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Sorry but League 1 team's woulda have gone to the Riverside and given a better account than we did. We couldn't keep the ball for Jack. We can't play that bad every week. This is supposed to be a tight league . yet we looked league apart. Take your blinkers off ffs

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Could not agree more kebabman 3 hard earnt points is far better and more useful than playing well and being unlucky and getting beat. I know a lot of millwall fans who are saying the team is playing the best football that they have in years but can win for s@@T I am sure they wouldn't mind a 1-0 win away at middlesbourhg

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23 Feb 2015 00:02:36
Smitch you're unbelievable

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22 Feb 2015 02:46:02
When we were loosing our performances were leading to this we have footballers n Leeds fans with the shirt on. Steve Thompson must be the key I've seen some seen some understandable critisim of salerno's transfers but Silvestri and bamba, how he wasn't in the palermo team is beyond me. Sleep well Leeds fans we've got fighters on the pitch.

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22 Feb 2015 01:26:11
Parma have now dissolved as a club, I wonder if it's possible to nab any players on a free transfer? There are probably a few players who could do a job, I don't want to mess the balance because we've got a good thing going but it can't hurt

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22 Feb 2015 09:39:15
Wouldn't. It be great to have 11home grown players local lads give abit more

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Local lads don't give more, player make it pro as they have talent but so do many who don't have it, they make pro as they have the desire to win. Look at mourino he wants the win for chealsea, inter, real or the dog and duck. Players are no different. I play five a side for many teams and want to win for me, I hate getting beat these players have the same quality but even more so. I don't care where they come from as long as they win. Look at bamba and slivestir wanted it more than any other players but pretty sure they ain't from yorkshire

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22 Feb 2015 13:45:54
Funny how the results have changed since we've started with the English lads bamba is after a contract and to be fair our keeper did his job yesterday josemourinho goes where the money is and he should get results you are not going to tell me the foreigners are more passionate than the likes of byram cookand mowatt

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Veria, henry, drogba, zola, schemcal, ince (when in milan) becks when abroad have all shown as much passion as any local lad. Bryam on many occasions has looked like he could not care less. I firmly believe location has nothing to do with it to be honest. Too many forgein players have shown too much passion and too many local lads have given 50% for this to be the case. players like smith rooney, viera, keane ince batty give 100% if they are playing for country, local club or east bum f@@k they just want the win

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22 Feb 2015 14:50:25
You're naming world class players playing for top teams we have signed too many rubbish foreigners. We all play sport to win if you don't you should take up another hobby let's not forget Middlesborough had 27yes 27 attempts on our goal yesterday but all you can do is battle and scrap and in Neil redfearn who again is a local man born 12miles away in dewsbury. Knows what leeds united means to him and thepeople of Leeds andlike I said before I would rather have localised lads who are good enough who also know what leeds united are all about heart andpassion

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Gary Speed didn't support Leeds growing up, still was very passionate. Your argument is illogical because I couldn't name one team in England's top 4 divisions that are comprised of solely local players. You've got to find a balance its great we've got players coming through, but we haven't always been so lucky so we should give anyone a chance to prove their worth for the shirt because after the last few games everyone is showing they deserve the Hirt, not just cook mowatt and byram

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22 Feb 2015 15:17:17
If youboys want our team to be full of the foreign players we currently have we will be getting relegated i'm just glad Neil is our gaffer and we have 15 of them below part foreigners lucky Gary speed and a great player he was had a certain Mr batty next to him so he would quickly learn what leeds were all about

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Which are the rubbish foreigners in our team? Because Antenucci is our top scorer, doukara has been second on our list, Silvestri best young keeper we've had for a few seasons, bamba transformed the team, cooper(if you count Scotland) has been a gem. Adryan hasn't lived up to it but he's only 20 give him time. Who else?

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22 Feb 2015 16:18:44
Bianchi sloth del fabro beradi lacks discipline. Antenucci on 8grand a goal what a joke doukara I had forgotten about him he must be that good sol bamba is in his honeymoon period saying he has gelled the teamrubbish Neil redfearn has. I'm not Necessarily saying all foreign players, but playing Murphy cook mowatt and sometimes byram in midfield and playing taylor in defence and using our academy instead of the inexperienced foreign players has improved performances.

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You could argue it's the change in formation or steve Thompson that has led to the change in form. I just think we're a team no matter where the players come from and I would take a lot of those players over the people we've brought in over previous seasons. I think it's disrespectful to the players that are busting their guts for our team to only credit the home grown players for our increase in form

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Sloth and Del fabro haven't been given enough of a chance, bianchi seemed good at first so I'm not going to write him off because he's been better than most players. But if you want to detract the 15 goals ant and doukara have then we're in trouble.

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22 Feb 2015 17:04:21
Antenucci 8goals is currently 24th yes 24th in the championship leading scorers not very impressive redfearn quoted in yep that if doukara is willing to put a shift in he will get a chance that to me says it all when the going gets tough the tough get going we made poor signings I like adryan he is exciting and I really hope massimo will allow Neil redfearn to pick his players and I'm confident next season will be a good

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22 Feb 2015 17:09:46
Not being disrespectful to anyone obviously if the managers thinks your good enough your good enough and you play whatever your colour or nationally I hopeeveryone busts a gut but it's also about passion and desire

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I do agree with boston some of our forgien players are not that good but that is not lack of passion that is lack of talent. and our 'local lads' are very good due to talent not passion (bryam is number one example as sometimes he could not care less millwall away game he was a disgrace or maybe injured) talent is talent and all professional sports men want to win at their sport and are 100% competitive. all this local lad or forgien lad talk is rubbish in my opinion. for every example that proves one point there is 100 that disprove it and the other way round. The manager at the moment is going for local lads and it is working and that is great as it shows our acadamey is as strong as it always has been and bamba, slivstri etc have been the added gems to a good leeds backbone

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Think you've summed it up Bermondsey, and Boston I do appreciate your points I just feel at the moment all our players are showing passion not just the home grown ones!

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22 Feb 2015 21:41:54
Marching on together lads

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23 Feb 2015 08:26:57
one should have passion but some players move from club to club so becomes a job . but if one is winning this does help one can't always show passion if you know end of season your out . yes if you've come through youth team it's there all the time one would hope

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