Leeds Banter Archive July 22 2018

 

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22 Jul 2018 22:14:10
The lack of communication from the club at all levels is absolutely disgraceful. No match de-brief no communication from the board and the worst thing about all of this is that they know the fans are pixxed off, it's all over fans forums and previous players are all saying what we are in the press.
Radz Orta Kinnear you really are not warming yourselves to your greatest asset, the fans, us the ones that fill the ground, the ones that buy the merchandise, your customers.
I am one frustrated Leeds fan.

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23 Jul 2018 07:00:53
Well said Dougie.

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22 Jul 2018 16:34:14
Why are we linked with every man and his dog when we don't and won't sign any1.berardi, Dallas and alioski and saiz are stealing a living, as is orta and kinnear. This squad will take us down. Do the board not see it or what?

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22 Jul 2018 17:49:21
Alioski got worse as the season went on last yr and has followed suit so far in the friendlies, still believe saiz has something to offer with the right players and movement around him, Dallas? . well you know what you are getting from him every game, always tries his best and is a steady 6-7 out of ten every game, but he’s not the type of winger to get your arse on the edge of the seat, we seriously need some pace adding to our fwd line and out wide, there’s players to feed that type of player with pablo and samu, time running out now for the first couple of games, but it’s not all about them, as long as we recruit the right players before deadline day we will all be happy.

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22 Jul 2018 18:47:40
We're doomed Mr mainwaring doomed I say.

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22 Jul 2018 19:23:30
It’s not a relegation squad but neither will it be a promotion winning one without additions. We have some solid parts. Golden striker, first priority, then probably defensive reinforcements to make us solid and pace on the wings to pull it all together. So 3/ 4 quality additions off a challenging side and that would give us a better bench as well. Still not impossible with some money to spend and possible loans. First month going to be needed to gel it all together. Keep the faith.

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22 Jul 2018 22:27:45
Keep the faith, like telling the troops in ww1 that the war would be over by Christmas.

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22 Jul 2018 23:36:56
Oscar. Wind your neck in. ! Dallas isn’t the best. But neither the worst. 7/ 10. Saiz and alioski on their day will play their part and torture most defensive teams. Both 7/ 10 on their day and Berardi as much a liability gives 100 % everytime. Give your head a wobble
😂😂😂⚽️⚽️⚽️
Onwards and upwards. Think positive lads.
Sick n tired off the negative posts. We are all Leeds
Arnt we. ? MOT. ALAW. 🇬🇧⚽️👍😊.

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23 Jul 2018 00:03:59
You can't fault his effort, but being brutally honest Dallas along with Beradi aren't good enough.

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23 Jul 2018 07:01:39
Two internationals aren't good enough?
We are in the Championship you know.
And before you say it I know beradi hasn't played for Switzerland for a while but I like his passion and effort.

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23 Jul 2018 07:52:55
There aren’t many games last season where alioski was good enough for a 7, I don’t remember him ‘torturing ‘ defences as you put it, he’s on the floor half the time, very very rarely beats a man and his crossing was woeful most of the season, and if he does anymore halfway line overhead kicks this season he should be subbed on the spot! 🤣.

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23 Jul 2018 08:52:17
Of course they are only pre season friendlies but if the manager is using them to check out players in different formations and positions then I don’t think that it is unfair to comment on how that looks. The boss has to decide on his Stoke first 11 somehow and I guess how some of them do in 90 minutes of game time will have an impact on him like it does on us. If you put a package of Leeds friendlies together and sell the right to watch them you are going to increase the interest and speculation. I want Bielsa to succeed and I hope that everyone gives him the time, patience and resources to succeed because getting him has been a bold gamble now we need to make the most of it. And finally Messer, Ww1 finished on November 11th, in plenty of time for Christmas, just that no one mentioned it was a 5 year plan!

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22 Jul 2018 16:03:43
Another uninspiring performance but it's good to get another 90mins and it proves we can hold our own against League 1 opposition. Best point of the day, good to see Roberts in a Leeds.

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22 Jul 2018 18:31:35
Leodis Game was at Roots Hall 😄.

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22 Jul 2018 19:06:39
It's only a friendly. There only played to get players match fit and try new formations and look at players that would normally get overlooked in the regular season. I see everyone panicking but the guy that matters looks unfazed (bubba)
Guys you need to stop judging players until they perform badly in games that count. Remember at this stage we are a work in progress.

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22 Jul 2018 21:34:59
Martyn The truth is without the reinforcements identified by everyone we are fodder for Stoke in a fortnight. I see us losing by a couple of goals unless something is done.

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22 Jul 2018 22:13:37
100% agree Martyn!

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22 Jul 2018 22:37:52
Totally agree, everything is about understanding his players and seeing whether they are worth keeping. Big rotation in my mind is good as he is clearly using these matches wisely. It’ll all come good. keep the faith👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻MOT.

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23 Jul 2018 01:31:03
George your the one who was telling people to be patient. Have u lost the faith?

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23 Jul 2018 09:54:05
It's on the borderline Martyn. We simply need a centre half and target man.

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23 Jul 2018 17:16:28
The problem is a lot of those potentially starting the first game will be players who weren't up to it last season. The lack of any investment in the playing staff at this stage of the Window beggars belief.

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22 Jul 2018 15:54:14
1-1 against Southend. Another good run out for the A team with Hernandez rested and Roberts finally wearing a Leeds shirt of sorts and looking useful. Ayling again outstanding . Thought the shape is emerging and Roberts and Ayling effectively two new signings! Alioski disapointing, I was at a lot of the preseason and early games last year and he looked a real prospect, not doing it now when there would be a real opportunity. Striker, solid center back and some pace on the wings please and it won't be a bad group of players.

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22 Jul 2018 16:26:43
A pretty comprehensive summary that Spanish. The one addition I woud make to your points was that Forshaw was very good too, and is going to be an important player for us this season. Totally agree on where we need to spend too.

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22 Jul 2018 17:54:19
For me Forshaw should be captain. I feel he has been consistent when he has played for us, he does the right things at the right times.

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22 Jul 2018 18:48:31
Davey Amazing what happens when you spend.

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22 Jul 2018 19:09:12
Spend good money get good player's
Simples.

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23 Jul 2018 01:04:16
I heard Bub, like TC, let's the players pick the captain . so, captain Cooper anyone?

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23 Jul 2018 06:23:23
I'd like one of three.
Foreshaw
Jannson
Beradi.

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23 Jul 2018 15:12:54
Ayling
Forshaw
Jansson
👍👍⚽️.

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22 Jul 2018 15:48:36
Watched game on LUTV. Leeds showed some good passing movements and looked to break quickly but Roofe does not provide enough threat as the central striker. Defensively we look poor from crosses on corners and set pieces.

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22 Jul 2018 16:26:41
Notts Agreed. Bielsa in for rude awakening unless recruitment goes well in next couple of weeks. We're absolutely screaming out for a central defender and target man.

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22 Jul 2018 16:30:18
Roofe looks more dangerous when we try to play thro their defence, as opposed to the hopeful crosses we played too often. definitely need a target man! And yes, very poor defensively against set pieces. Cooper is only a back up, so we need to invest in a partner for Pontus, or a really strong loanee.

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22 Jul 2018 19:12:22
I'm struggling to understand why people are so fickle and picky over a friendly. He's shuffling his pack and prob knows what he needs and orta will deliver when he finds a agent who will deliver his little brown envelope to him.

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22 Jul 2018 21:42:34
Fickle and picky you say? A bit like that disappeared club £20m warchest at the ready. Bielsa can shuffle the pack all he likes. De Bock isn't good enough, Alioski poor and we have a defence which contains Cooper. Get me better players Martyn.

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22 Jul 2018 22:54:49
Season starts in 2 weeks Martyn, need to start to refine their template for the season.

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22 Jul 2018 23:14:18
Have faith. There's a reason Bubba has the reputation he's got. I see this season being like last season in reverse. A slow start and a stronger finish. This could be the meds talking as I'm not usually this calm and your usually the last to panic George.

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23 Jul 2018 00:01:05
That's correct Martyn and I'm not just yet since there are still 13 days to go before Stoke. I just feel we have departed from a normalized bread and butter approach. Someone to help Pontus and a target man. A new winger might be nice but those two recruits are essential. Pretty football alone doesn't win in this league and it's the alone as key word I'm afraid of.

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23 Jul 2018 01:08:06
Well said Martyn, pre-season friendlies mean nowt apart from getting game time and seeing who can do what Bub wants 'em to do.

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23 Jul 2018 06:27:19
I think we will get 2 in before Stoke George but by the time the game against Spanish team comes I think you have a better idea of his preferred team selection.

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23 Jul 2018 10:35:13
Martyn you can shuffle the pack as much as you want but if someone has took all the Kings out its a waste of time playing.

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22 Jul 2018 12:59:17
Is this the team to get us up? . at Southend.

Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Kamil Miazek, Luke Ayling, Adam Forshaw, Liam Cooper, Kemar Roofe, Gjanni Alioski, Tyler Roberts, Laurens de Bock, Stuart Dallas, Samu Saiz, Kalvin Phillips, Gaetano Berardi, Ryan Edmondson, Jordan Stevens.

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22 Jul 2018 13:43:17
If they allow us to put them all on the field at the same time we will walk it 😎.

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22 Jul 2018 14:23:05
FFS, it's a pre-season friendly! ! ! stop the constant sniping, it means nothing apart from player getting a game in their legs.

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22 Jul 2018 15:16:27
Why is it on this SITE having an opinion is a big problem with some, grow up stop your sniping posts.

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22 Jul 2018 16:22:54
It is metisse just from League One.

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22 Jul 2018 17:08:35
Dear dear.
The question was a simple one and look at the reaction. says a lot about many contributors'IQ!
Just demonstrates why Leeds fans have such a poor rep.

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22 Jul 2018 17:46:09
You right metisse. An abundant intelligence will frequently get one into trouble so the responders to your query best be on their guard. You mustn't worry though. You're safe as 🏠🏠.

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23 Jul 2018 08:57:29
Lol George! 😂😂🤐.

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22 Jul 2018 11:35:19
On the plus side! Having lost Redders Hecky is available offering free pearls of wisdom to anyone that’s willing to listen to him. To be fair he doesn’t come across as bitter and twisted as Redders did. Does it count as a signing?

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22 Jul 2018 11:01:33
Looking at the signings we've been linked with Vydra, Hernandez, Gunn, Flint Bartley, etc. These players ('cept Vydra so far) have moved on for far more than originally anticipated.

Hernandez 50K wages
Gunn 13.5M
Vydra 11M and 50K wages (supposed)
Bartley 6m and imagine good wages after an injury hit season
Flint around 10m.

Now I can accept that with possibly all of those we cannot compete at those prices. Memories of early 2000s reckless spending are still too fresh. However, what is unacceptable is that the club clearly have had no backup plan for the most key signings if No.1 choices didn't pan out.

If i were in orta's position I'd have at least five reasonable targets for every position in the squad (you never know who you might end up selling that you hadn't intended) .

It's clear he's been flapping about desperately. Tonnes of rumours (how accurate is another thing) Peterborough duo, Mbaokgou Kodjia, Assombalonga, Eisa. Zero movement.

Defence and wing even more of a joke. Barely competed for Wilson it looks like. Not a whiff of a quality CB besides Bartley rumours which didn't pan out.

Loaning out O'Connor and Coyle is looking even more of a joke now than it did at the time.

Even if we get good players in now, what happened to giving the squad all of pre-season to work together.

For what its worth I'd have gone to Molde and offered them £5m + Antonsson + £5m after promotion for Erling Haaland.

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22 Jul 2018 11:45:42
Good post Alex, everything they are doing now smacks of total desperation. Don't know how interested we were in Eisa, but looks like he is off to Bristol City anyway, and another possible, Ryan Kent is having a medical at Rangers. Looks like our only hope of a couple more quality signings are loans unless something happens fast that we don't know about. If no money is spent by the end of the Window Kinnear should explain to the fans on behalf of the Club why we were fed spin and hype throughout the Summer because the lack of communication with the fans has been abysmal.

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22 Jul 2018 12:04:04
Kinnear will talk about investing in the Jan window, only to say that there is no value in the window come Jan.

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22 Jul 2018 12:29:02
Alexebab I think the back up plan is the loan market utilizing Bielsa's connections.

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22 Jul 2018 13:28:01
Agree that there is certainly an element of that. Interesting that in games to date Bielsa has asked some players to play in positions they haven’t previously. Let’s hope he’s a genius at spotting potential stars who have to date merely been playing in the wrong position. Does happen! In which case all our concerns are misplaced. I hope.

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22 Jul 2018 14:25:15
I think they were all playing out of position last season ;)

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22 Jul 2018 16:15:43
If we were willing to pay 11mill for Vydra and 30 grand a week as has been reported. Why did we not when Vydra put his wages up offer Abel 55 grand a week with no signing on fee. All smoke and mirrors.

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22 Jul 2018 09:03:47
2 wks today and it's our first game, looking fwd to it, not got a clue who we will play up front and if stoke get Ince, Chester and McLean in this wk it's going to be a real Tough opening fixture for us. can see the game being a sell out, stoke already sold there allocation, just hope we all leave the ground optimistic, if we get easily turned over, with the lack of investment etc I can see elland rd not being a nice place for the players. let's hope Biesla can put a smile on our faces!

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22 Jul 2018 10:03:42
Lose 5-0.

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22 Jul 2018 11:32:58
Ausman, gives your head a wobble.

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22 Jul 2018 11:46:40
Meaning capt?

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22 Jul 2018 11:58:00
Why with the current playing staff we have that result is a possible out come, Cooper, Phillips and Berardi should have all been made available to love on but where not in a position to do that becsiwe don't have the finances, like I stated in a earlier reply Bielsa as been brought in to try and get the best out of the current playing staff.

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22 Jul 2018 12:19:37
Dead right if you think back to Radz and Kinnears statements they said we have quality players but only playing at 70% of their potential, we are miles away from a squad capable of challenging top six yet again fans sold short this regime is rotten will struggle to be mid table without 3 or 4 good signings disappointed in the whole set up think maybe a hard start to the season a few bad results and tha sh-t will hit the fan exit Bielsa.

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22 Jul 2018 13:50:32
The formations and player combinations in these pre season friendlies are more about fitness levels and seeing how different players interact. The line up I would pay most attention to is the one that plays a week today as in my opinion that is the one most likely to start against Stoke on the opening day of the season.

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22 Jul 2018 15:10:36
We all get that coffee. But.
You are being optimistic mate.
Our starting 11 won’t start a game before sept!

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