Leeds Banter Archive May 24 2012

 

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24 May 2012 23:15:49
Is Joel Ward the new messi?
All ive heard for the past few days

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24 May 2012 22:36:22
I think the "Leeds have no money rumour" is a smokescreen, it was said 3 days ago that we couldn't raise the money, if that were true! then that very moment Warnock would have said goodbye. Also take into account that Joel Ward hasn't signed for anyone else either. The Skint rumour seems to always come from Ipswich in some way, shape or form and is probably their way of trying to get Ward to choose them over Leeds, seed of doubt etc etc. I tried to look on the Ipswich rumours site to see what they were saying, but they are not a big enough club to have their own rumours site!!

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Early days of the transfer window. I dont see much movement for other clubs yet either

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It will not be long before the positions start to get filled. Don't forget the season's only just ended. They probably need time to get there head round the season they've had. Then make a 3=4yr change.
Dont forget ward still lives with his mum. It can be dornting first time in the big bad world. I have a feeling he will choose us. Its to much of a coincidense, paynter popping up all of a sudden.
This is the thing thats delaying things. If it was just money for him, then a team would have his signiture by now.
Keep the faith!
mot4life

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24 May 2012 22:09:45
Ken Bates is really starting to make me hate following leeds united now the disappointment of looking through the web pages just to see more let downs . i don't know weather to laugh or cry at our club now its a joke . ive never felt so down about anything before . its awfull me saying this really but i really wish bates would die or something

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Early days of the transfer window. may i suggest patience. not much movement with other clubs yet

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You're totally missing the point when you say other clubs aren't doing much yet. The fact is that Warnock has missed out on one of his major targets. Believe me, he won't even be at Leeds in August.

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They need time to come in and gel too or we'll be having yet another slow start to the season if we have so many new players to bed in!

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24 May 2012 22:07:07
I've avoided slagging off KB because it's counter productive and frankly childish. However, just reading the report on the Ipswich web site that Leeds are out of the Ward race because they couldn't raise the funds after all the PR stating he was prepared to back NW in the transfer Market and we did have the funds then fine call me childish but if it's true Bates your a disgrace. Phil Bramley

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24 may 2012 21:59:25
leeds bigger than ipswich !! fact ur a town we are a city !!! lol mot nicky bee

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24 May 2012 20:54:53
anybody else think we should acquire frank nouble? 6ft3 only 20 years old and a free transfer

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I agree would be a good signing

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No he's s**t he needs experience and he a league 1 type player.thers better free players than him.

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We wont be able to afford these better free players if were as skint as everybody says we are

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24 May 2012 18:27:38
Instead of the usual Joel Ward, Paddy Kenny & half the Portsmouth squad rumours - I thought I'd share some not as well known rumours.
JACK HUNT - YOUNG HUDDERSFIELD FAN, BIG LEEDS FAN WHO WARNOCK ADMIRES.
OLLY LEE - WARNOCK CONSIDERS LEE AS ONE OF BEST YOUNGSTERS IN CHAMPIONSHIP AND IS AVAILABLE FOR FREE AFTER WEST HAM RELEASE
KARL HENRY - WOLVES MIDFIELDER KEEN ON MOVE FOLLOWING APPOINTMENT OF NEW MANAGER - ALSO, WARNOCK LIKES HIM.

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I would be very happy with Karl Henry, depends how realistic he is prepared to be with wages though.

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He's on around 20k a week .

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24 May 2012 17:08:07
Surely the best way to prove our ambition to snodgrass warnock should involve him in process ie let him meet the players or at least keep him up to date with things. This may already happen not sure. I don't blame him for his caution but I also feel it's early days so we fans should be more patient. Let's judge at the start of the season and for now stay positive! ( not easy I know) to be honest I really
can't wait for next season
and I'm quietly optimistic

MOT always

Chorley White

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Forgot to mention have you seen the snodgrass poll on ss transfer centre? 71%leave and 29% stay. Asking if he will be a Leeds player next season putting more pressure on the club and getting at fans to make them worry bout it. Wot wil b wil b

Chorley White

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24 May 2012 17:00:28
Not happy saying this but im starting to agree with most people on here now. Are team next year will likely be lonergan with a mixture of league one and spl rejects with becchio to top it off. All rumours have basically dried up and warnock will want to retire after this season. This 'rebuilding' of LUFC is going to end up like bradford city, bad players and relegation with only 1000 people watching in a 25000 seat stadium as is their norm.

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I think on Wednesday we will have a decent squad ,im starting to believe that warnock and bates are actually bluffing all the clubs about how much money we have in order to get very good deals .maybe im just deluded .

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^ Thats what I believe, I just hope thats the case - Mac

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24 May 2012 16:38:48
I reckon we should sell snodgrass in the summer instead of waiting til january to see where we are. Whether people like him or not (and personally i think he is the most overrated player in the division) if we could get anything over 4 million for him then we could definitely improve the team/squad. I reckon we could get someone like whittingham for less than that and have some left to improve the squad. Plus there would be more money for wages left over instead of making a guy who at times is brilliant but only produces it 7 or 8 times a season our top earner.
M.L.K

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24 May 2012 16:33:05
Isn't it a stark indication of how far we've fallen from grace (and how ridiculous some of our fans are) when we're judging the success of the coming season on our bid to sign the defender of a club who were relegated last season. Pipe down everyone and let Warnock and the board do their jobs...

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5th highest ticket price in the country for a team that, on Warnock's results pro rata over the course of the season, would have finished bottom of the division by around 10 points (do the maths).

Seriously wishing I hadn't renewed to fund Bates's building work and lawsuits.

And by the way, we all have a right to express our opinion and I for one object to ostriches buying into the Bates BS telling me to pipe down.

At least I realise I'm being conned...

BATES OUT.

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24 May 2012 16:10:06
In order for us to get promoted we need to raise the wage barrier or we will never attract the right players to get promoted. By selling White, Clayton, McCormack and the dead weight we have in the team this will provide us with money to spend on wages and small transfer fees. There are good free transfers out there but we need to raise the wages. The team to get us promoted back to where we belong is:

Robinson(free)
Faubert(free), Lees, Pearce, Hill
Snodgrass, Papa Diop(free), Clingan, Gradel
Klasnic(free), Rhodes

Backup players: Heskey, C Clark, C Gordon, C Cueller

Come on Ken all you have to do is spend a little bit of money now and when we get promoted you can sell us to some rich arab and you can enjoy your tax free life in Monaco plus you will have all that money from buying Elland Road back from the dodgy company you own.

MOT!!!!!!!

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Cant afford rhodes and becchio is good enough he will get 20 + goals if we get a decent squad together.gradel wont be coming back

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Cueller is miles better than lees. Where we getting sevral million for to sign rhodes. Nd why we puttin about £60,000 a week of players on the bench/ back up as u call them ?!?!
Bainesy boy

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24 May 2012 15:50:25
Our Squad For Next Season: IMO

Lonergan
Lees Pearce NEW CB NEW LB
NEW CDM NEW CDM
NEW RW NEW CAM NEW LW
Becchio

Subs:
Kisnorbo
Pugh
Brown
Rogers
Somma

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If rogers gets fit and conditioned he will rip this league apart on lw

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24 May 2012 15:26:00
I know everyone is getting all up tight about the new season and who we are or are not going to bring in this summer but what we have to look at is we have a fantastic manager in Neil Warnock who is probably the most experienced manager for getting teams promoted. If the season started now with the players we have were not that bad off to be fair.

If Warnock gets a good pre-season under our belts and gets us playing like we know we can do we have a half decent squad already. And we all know deep down that we WILL sign atleast half dozen before kick off in August even if we aren't making any moves just yet.

GK Lonners
RB Lees
CB Pearce
CB Kisnorbo
LB Pugh
RM Snodgrass
CM Brown
CM Clayton (if we offer him more)
LM Rogers
ST Becchio
ST Somma

Subs:
GK Cairns
DEF Charlie Taylor
DEF Bromby
MID Zac Thompson
ST Ross McCormack

Res:

Paul Connolly
Lewis Turner
Nathan Turner
Simon Lenighan

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That team will be no where near the play offs. It's more or less what we had last season and we were just not good enough

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Kisnorbo is crocked and wasn't a shadow of his League 1 self when he was fit.
Pugh is squad player, to have him as our starting LB is a joke.
Brown is a liability, again, shoud only be a squad player.
Clayton will go to release some funds.
We're yet to see if Rogers will be any good (high hopes) and if Somma can come back from a terrible injury (and if he wasn't just a 1 season wonder)
Other than Macca (who I expect to leave) that bench should be nowhere near a Championship club, and Bromby is crocked for a year probably, Taylor and Thompson will go out on loan and NW doesn't like using sub 'keepers.

We have 7 players in our squad that are worhty of a top championship squad, and 1 is transfer listed, 2 are probably going to leave.

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That team is not far off the mediocre garbage that I watched last season.

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Division 1 here we come

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I love this guy's mindless optimism....

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He is certainly mindless. Kisnorbo? Is he Leeds fan?

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24 May 2012 14:48:59
I think a great signing would be Marc Pugh from bournemouth. Scored 12 goals last season great winger good pace. Could replace snoddy or snoddy could hold cm

What you guys think?

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Snoddy could not hold CM

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You'd put one of/if not the best winger outside the premiership in holding midfield and replace him with a decent league 1 winger?

Kevin Blackwell?

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24 May 2012 14:25:39
I am afraid that the board of directors at Leeds Utd need to bring in at least one more quality signing before Warnock jets off tomorrow, just to prove to the loyal fans that they are prepared to back Warnock and build a team that is good enough to compete for promotion next season, or I am afraid we might just be left with a young in experienced manager and a team that will just be good enough to escape relegation, Bates needs to show us he means business for this club, he's done his bit to save the club now is the time to move it on, come on Mr Bates put your Chelsea hatred of Leeds days behind you and make this club one of the best again. Or sell it and take your money to Monaco and live out the rest of your time in the lap of luxury with our blessings.

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24 May 2012 13:41:56
--------------------- Gordon ---------------------

----------- Pearce --- Hall --- Whirtbread -------
-- Faurbert -------------------------------Mattock

---------------- Ward ----- Leadbitter -----------
--------------------- Rogers ----------------------

-------------- Becchio ----- Klasnic -------------

Bench:
Lonergan
Lees
Watson
Puncheon
Somma

Not bad on paper.....?

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Anyone can put a team on paper, if i was you i would have added Messi , Ronaldo Rooney and lampard, the team would have looked even better then

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Not a prayer!

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Can't see ipswich signing all those

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I would swap Rogers for Watson and go with 4 at the back. (Ward, Pearce, Hall, Shorey) please no Faubert!

Klasnic is not worth the wages and Somma is more mobile than him.

Kenny would be a much better option in goal due to experience in this league and the fact his wages arent anything like Gordons, plus Kenny will make sure the defence doesnt do a Grayson again.

JordLUFC

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24 May 2012 11:37:45
People need to take into concideration the last sentance of this interview while speculating [http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18179230]. NW would be suprised if he got anything like as much as 1 million to spend, and infact if he did he'd be expected to buy 4 or 5 players with it.

No wonder we can't find the 400k for Ward, and no wonder we are open to selling people!

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24 May 2012 11:06:54
I know people keep saying "there is no rush to sign players" but for us there is. looking at our starting 11 from last year we only have bechio, lees pugh and lonergan who are not up for sale, been released or stalling over a new contract. we have no squad at all. when you have a big turnover of players you need to get them playing and training together as soon as possible. most other clubs that we will be competing with this year all ready have solid squads that just need 2 or 3 players adding to it. As it stands we need to bring in at least 10 new players. garyd MOT

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Totally agree with you. I think the reason why we are all getting panicky about the lack of new faces is because NW pretty much assured the fans there would be 3-4 new players before he goes on his jollies....and that has not happened. Yeah we got Pearce which is great but if NW had not promised all these other acquisitions then we wouldnt be on here questioning why no-one else has arrived yet. I trust NW to put us a team together than can challenge, I just wish he hadnt stated how many players will arrive before his holidays cos as its not happened its easy for fans to get nervous and edgy and critical.

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Agreed....we don't have time to mess about like we normally do.

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We had a solid strike force just needed a few defenders and a couple of midfielders to sure things up but instead we decide to sell the full squad nearly because bates is a tight arse and wont part with any money

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24 May 2012 10:28:39
Dear Ed
Is there any chance of a spell checker on here. {Ed013's Note - I have put it forward and I thought it had been done. I will look into it in case the system is down}

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Not everyone can spell correctly every word, i for one would never mock, so dont worry just air your points of view, anyone that does mock are just small minded people

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Please no-that's half the fun! {Ed007's Note - Any posts mocking spelling or grammar should not be posted. As long as the post is eligible, coherent and isn't in text speak it is fine, otherwise it will put people off posting or using a name for fear of ridicule. If you feel the need to slag someone for spelling or grammar you really need to grow up.}

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A spell checker will help but it wont stop people who just cannot write properly LOL {Ed007's Note - Shouldn't that be 'would help' and 'won't'? ;-)

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I don't think he is mocking, everyone can make mistakes when typing, doesn't mean they don't know how to spell. For info ED, the spell checker is working, it underlines incorrect words in red, just need to right click and accept the correct spelling! {Ed013's Note - I think it works better with Google chrome so if anyone hasn't got it then you can download it for free}

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And people that give people abuse on a forum are small minded. Try doing it to my face. I wasn't picking on people because they can't spell I was merely suggesting a way of correcting it as some posts are difficult to understand due to poor wording.

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Well said mate

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Get a Mac - spell checker built in to Safari...

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24 May 2012 08:43:22
Why is everyone so keen to sign players straight away, if you haven't realised not many other clubs in the championship are signing players at this point !

AndyLufc97

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The reason being that we have got rid of most of our squad.

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Actually we haven't got rid of anyone yet, except Mikal to Millwall?

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I dont think its a case of us all being too hasty, the problem stems from NW stating, almost assuring us fans that he'll have 3-4 players in by the time he goes on his hols. If he doesnt say that, then we dont have a need to question anything, BUT he did say that so we now have a right to question where these signings are, especially in light of the fact that he goes on his hols tomorrow and only Pearce is a Leeds player.

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24 May 2012 08:27:16
Like all Leeds fans I'm checking the rumour sites all day (Don't tell the boss) and News sites to see who we are interested in. I'm as worried as the next fan with the lack of activity in ER, but has anybody noticed any other Championship sides snapping up players? There are the rumours, as there is with us, but no concrete sigings as such, just released players. I remember last year and thinking don't worry we'll sign somebody soon, which didn't happen. That is at the back of my mind, but I don't think should start to panic until we see movement at our rival clubs. That's when all the Bates haters can rightfully start protesting.

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I agree that normally we would wait and see what rival clubs do before making our move but your forgetting that at this minute in time if no one signed anybody this summer rival clubs have a squad to choose from ... Leeds have released half of ours. We need to get in there first and get enough players in to field a starting 11 and a bench which we can't do at present.

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That is exactly the point here. We aint worried about the Peteboroughs or the Barnsleys in this league cos they will always be sh!t. Its the Cardiffs, Birminghams etc we need to worry about and they already have solid, set squads that just need a couple of well chosen additions. We are not like them. We MUST get shut of 10+ players cos they were the reason we struggled last season and we MUST replace them with 6-8 better quality players. With that kind of turnaround we cannot aford to wait till late June-July or even August. We need half of them in asap then a steady trickle throughout the remainder of the Summer. If that doesnt happen we will be picking up the dregs left over, poor loans or worse than that, going with those same players we wanted shut of.

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Your point is bang on - We do need 6-8 better players and need to lose the dross. The thing is nobody wants our dross and we can't afford the players we need or keep the better ones we have. I will keep an open mind until Oct / Nov time, but come Xmas if we are not near the play offs then Bates and Harvey can kiss goodbye to early season ticket sales. We have a new stand (Well revamped), the Pavillion appears to do good business, there are plans for a Casino.....Great, but without a team worthy of Premiership football what's the point? Cos it certainly isn't about raising funds for the team.

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24 May 2012 07:46:08
i have to laugh at some people on here who put such things as mccormack going here,going there,good riddance hes overated.
when he plays for us hes great,dont want to lose him.
get real,mccormack is a good player,without his goals last season heaven knows where we would be.he is good enough for leeds,we want to keep him.you cant blame him for wanting a better deal.if your on 2k a month at work and another company says 3k wouldnt you think,wow,great,things i can do for my family with that.we have to be realistic,if bates wont pay him as much as other championship clubs then thats our loss.i cant see why we cant but i dont hold the purse strings.we are a massive club support wise but a very small club financialy now...shrew leeds

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Never understand why ross doesnt get the credit he deserves.could have a bit of swing on his leaving decision
TS {Ed013's Note - He is without a shadow of a doubt a good player, but if he isn't committed for the cause then he should go. Remember he was being tapped up in January by Wigan who were going to exercise his release clause with a 3 million bid}

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Ross is by far our best player but, if he is offered more elsewhere then you can't blame him for leaving. The same with Snodgrass- he obviously doesn't want to stay so why does't he simply put a transfer request in and see what bids come in for him

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24 May 2012 01:27:41
To all the leeds fans that really do love this club. Stand up and be counted.
We can not let are club, are beloved club go back to the darkages. If you carn't see that year in year out we where told investment in the squad would be happening but instead are club gets smaller in every single way. The best players carn't wait to leave to pastures new.
Ask yourself this?
Why is it happening?
Why is nothing being done?
Why doesn't someone help?
Why are the best players jumping ship?
Why do we pay top wack? why are we not one big voice and showing this cockney, he carn't take these passinate fans and club for a ride.
What are we lemings?
Stand up!
stand up!
Stand up and sing for leeds!
Great wars where conckered by nations that where, UNITED!!!".
MOT$LIFE

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Stand up and ... Er .. 'sing'?! Yeah, that'll do it?!

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Yeah because it worked so well last season. Just support the club or do one.

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Why do fans on here ,when hearing another fans opinion on the running of the club,and lets face it at the moment couldnt put a 5 aside team together,told to "do one "its the deluded fans paying premier league prices which need to give there heads a good looking at ,loyalty only goes so far Mr Bates!

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24 May 2012 00:16:19
Were pretty much the only team that has paid money for a player since the close of this season yet some fan are stressing that were not investing ??

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Did Leicester not sign 3, 2 from you know where and another kid who cost them 1m, or have I miss read this?

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Leicester who are backed by big money, other than Leicester, we're the only team to have payed a fee for any player in our league

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