Leeds Banter Archive July 27 2013

 

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27 Jul 2013 18:26:59
Ticket sales appear to be going well for first game of season. Average attendance last season because of the cup run was just above 20K our first year in league 1 the average was 27K. Bates has gone. so can only hope all those who stayed away because Bates was there come back and don't find another excuse to stay away, someone said it earlier it would be nice if we really were Leeds UNITED again. A full Elland Road has to be one of the best sights there is, I just hope we see it many times this coming season.

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27 Jul 2013 18:24:27
Reading through the latest rumours it seems a lot of people think that Captain Birdseye still owns the ground and TA. Do you lot honestly think knowing how dodgy the old get is that GFH don't also know that and that any purchase would have clauses to buy back ER and TA at fixed prices? The deal that bought Leeds from that crook took months and months to finalise and I am sure no stone was left unturned. Maybe and I really hope so GFH were a bit smarter than master Bates and found a clause to get rid of him sooner rather than later?

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Yesterday's article in the Guardian suggests they weren't that smart and were well and truly stitched up over numerous other things. It wouldn't suprise me if we were to discover he had an interest in Teak Trading (ER/TA pwners).

www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jul/27/ken-bates-leeds?CMP=twt_gu

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27 Jul 2013 18:13:03
As a certain yep man said last season and the season before last, and again after today's game. we lack penetration and options going forward.
He can see it, I can see it, BMD can see it, Grayson saw it, even with beckford, warnock said it,
For gods sake do something about it gfh.
I'd say with decent run we are a top 10 team at best.
I know it doesn't matter that much but we lost 5 preseason games.
The season starts in 7 days. are we ready? Are we hell like?
I'll be taking my seat next week more in prayer than expectation.
Before I get torn to shreds how many of you right this second would put 500. 00 on Leeds to get in play offs?
Mm. shrew Leeds
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Couldn't agree with you more pal. Excellent post.

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You are spot on no chance this season without investment or two or three youngsters stepping up like byram did, next season may be the one, but how many times have we said that.

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Even if we bought a cb a winger and a striker we won't go up! The back-bone of the team is far from good enough compared to the likes of qpr and Wigan, due to the fact they can afford more than a couple of half decent signings. Wigan just bought grant holt and managed to persuade him to join them over other premiership teams. Would leeds be able to pull something like that out of the hat? Don't be ridiculous

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27 Jul 2013 18:06:07
To the person who suggested the other day that Brian McDermott is too soft to handle this job, I do not agree, I think he could be a right moody git who will let people know in no uncertain terms when he is not happy with them. Just because he doesn't make it public it does not mean he is too soft.

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27 Jul 2013 17:17:56
all this hating on Bates is getting a bit boring now. the guy turned a struggling debt ridden club into a very stable club. yes no investment. yes selling all the top players but Leeds United are now a stable club that have in my eyes a very bright future over the next few seasons. a cracking fan base and an even better manager to take us forward. MOT!

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Drivel - he put us into administration then bled us dry for years. Take off the rose tinted glasses. Bates is vile and we are well rid.

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Well said OP, about time people grew up

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27 Jul 2013 17:12:59
Another blank afternoon for the leed strikeforce and two goals conceeded again. i'm a little worried to say the least with things kicking off next week

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27 Jul 2013 17:05:22
Just watched the game against Nurnberg I am sorry but we have no friggin chance next season still long ball merchants I am afraid, and the worst player on the pitch by far was Aiden White very very poor in everything he did, and this is not just someone just moaning or trying to be negative I love Leeds and want to see them do well but it ain't going to happen with this squad no matter how good the manager might be. We need money now not in 6 months or next season, that way you will get your big crowds back and positive reaction from fans who to be honest are just sick of seeing poor poor performances from an under achieving squad.

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27 Jul 2013 15:51:08
Just listened to the 1st half and it was very poor, White and Poleon playing wide but struggling, Midfield can't keep hold of the ball, I know it's only a friendly but needs sorting before next sat.

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27 Jul 2013 16:53:01
we lacked a lot in todays game especially the midfield, not creating clear cut chanches, mis placed passing. best player today was green, solid infront of back four. the team doesn't look any better than last year I just hope they improve in the league

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27 Jul 2013 16:08:33
Bit of a keeganesque line up from mcd
Whats your thoughts?
Would that starting line up hold its own in champ?
Pleased to see pre season form rewarded for youbg poleon, hope ge starts against brighton.

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When was the last time Keegan put out a team of that quality? Not sure I follow

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27 Jul 2013 15:47:38
Looking forward to getting to elland road next week for new start.
Hope that some rabbits can be pulled out of hats before then but looks unlikely.
Just hope for good start and bit of luck.
The championship is harder than ever and I hope things are diff and we are not in a mess again come October time. shrew leeds

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27 Jul 2013 14:46:31
who is going to be our next president. howard Wilkinson or perhaps Melvyn levi, just to stick 2 fingers up to bates.

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Next president could be Neil Warnock! He kept saying he could do a good job for a club advising a board!

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27 Jul 2013 13:17:33
Surely bates leaving means he is about to buy into another struggling club and flip them. don't think you can be involved in two clubs at once. Wonder which unlucky sods will have the pleasure of him as chairman next

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I heard he was considering charlton or Portsmouth

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Who cares what Bates is going to do, he is now (thankfully) history.

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27 Jul 2013 12:21:19
My theory on KB leaving. GFH are in negotiations with red bull, but KB part owns ER which red bull want to purchase, therefore red bull had an offer accepted for the stadium and TA which means KB has no further hold on the club, which prompted him to leave or GFH told him to pack his bags. If so were happy, red bull are happy, GFH are happy and KB is very happy, especially with the money he has made from LUFC. Only small negative is that with the offshore crazy accounts KB uses it could be christmas time when it goes through, quoting GFH's "two year plan". But again just my theory. can't wait to see you KB haters at ER next week. No more excuses, let's fill it up. MOT, Vinny.

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I suspect its something along those lines too

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Theories don't matter, he is gone.

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27 Jul 2013 12:17:49
I've been a Leeds fan for roughly 22 years (as old as I am) and after these past 8 years, it's been a sigh of relief to see anyone come into the club with any sense of direction and ambition!

We've been through rubbish for 8 years, can we not just give gfh and Brian some breathing space to get on with their job and stop looking at the short term, ie this transfer window, and look for the mid-term, the two years set by David haigh! What's another two years going to be on a 8 year spell of mr bates!

Give the boys a chance to prove their worth

Matt

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Totally agree with this statement. Time to let GFH weave their magic. After Ken Bates for 8 years GFH are a inspiration dropping match prices and season ticket prices. Long live GFH.

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Hate to be negative after such a positive day for the club but perhaps season tickets and brighton tickets havnt hit projections and their putting it down to bates. its only my opinion and feel free to disagree but people have got out of the habbit of going to ER and only a winning team rightly or wrongly will bring them back.

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I have supported Leeds for more than 40 years, I was hoping the takeover would get us back where we belong, now bates is finaly gone I feel that is a reality now.

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27 Jul 2013 11:15:23
any guesses what the attendance will be at the brighton game by the looks of it I reckon 33. 468

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After today's performance 22, 100 die hard leeds fans + 900 from brighton

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33467 I bet i'm closer than you lol

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25000 at best. Losing all the pre season matches won't wet the appetite of many more. Leicester, QPR, Weds & Brighton? All in first month. The team which hasn't won a match yet will have to pull it out the bag and deliver with a hard month ahead

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Pre season games should have no bearing on brighton game, just another excuse for so called fans to stay away.

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27 Jul 2013 11:03:05
I wonder, and I could be very wrong here, if GFHC used any potential transfer funds we may have had to pay off master. bates to rid him from the club? just a thought

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MAy have a point there, or they got rid of him to free up his salary. don't care, he's gone, a new era is born. MOT

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I think bates left because he realised how little power and say he had within the club. He probably hated the fact that his opinions and his thoughts made no difference to what GFH's plans are. That would have really bugged him. Also the fact that there better people around him and they had very little respect for him

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27 Jul 2013 14:31:04
Would you pay a salary to an honorary president who has no influence? I can't see it myself.

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What would be the point in it otherwise if he wasnt getting any monertary reward

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27 Jul 2013 11:01:16
I am delighted as I'm sure most are that GFH have got rid off
Bates I'm looking at it 2 ways though rather some investors (Red Bull ) maybe wouldn't come on board with him still involved with the club, or it's a bit off a deflecting tactic with Brian stating its a very real possibility that he has watt he has player wise. and no more signings are in the pipeline
I feel we will be no were near good enough to go for the play offs and I think Brain is starting to get frustrated but

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27 Jul 2013 10:51:38
I note that Leeds met with the supporters club before the news about bates. I do wonder why they did not meet with lust.
It is alleged by lust that soon after the bates announcement that lust felt they had to say they had been invited to lunch.
Sorry, let me correct that. It was a website that also stated it is alleged.
Lust did tweet about the bates news and say thanks for the lunch invite but never said who from.
Never really trusted lust, (although I understood some of what they were saying) but it will be interesting to see if they are on the OS in pictures today as the supporters club were yesterday.

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I think it's better for a supporter's trust of any football club to keep its distance from the owners. One of the purposes of a supporter's trust is to question the decisions of the owners and you can't do that if you're too close to them.

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27 Jul 2013 10:23:57
I assume that with ticket prices reduced to make the same money as last year we need to sell a lot more season tickets.
Does anyone think that bates has been pushed to encourage season ticket sales?
I think my assumption is correct and I think that I am right that more season tickets will be sold, but whether this is a coincidence and linked or not I am unsure.

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Think you right bout getting rid of bares to encourage more season ticket sales
Also think red bull would have had it as a condition of investment

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27 Jul 2013 09:46:55
Bates gone - now everyone really can be together, marching in the same direction. 'The cancer within the club'?

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27 Jul 2013 08:49:24
So that's the Red Bull deal dead in the water. Bates or His company Teak trading have been a spanner in the works and have likely ruined the Red Bull deal. He's put his greedy snout in once to often an got the chop. My big worry, he still owns ER and Ta. In which case he will still cause big trouble. Hope I'm wrong but a educated guess not a rumour.

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Lol not a very good educated guess at that

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If there was ever any interest from Red Bull, I would have thought the opposite now Bates as gone. The deal if there was one, would or will go through if they are interested and if GFH are also interested. Time will tell but whatever it will now open up other doors for investment for people to deal with us who would not whilst Bates was here.

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Educated you say??

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27 Jul 2013 08:13:09
Including youngsters with Professional deals, we have 30 first team squad members. Surely it makes sense to get rid of some before we get any players in? I suggest send Lewis Turner, Nathan Turner, Simon Lenighan, Charlie Taylor and Chris Dawson out on loan. Then sell David Norris and Danny Pugh. Surely that would free up enough wages for a couple of signings? Pugh & Norris will be on about £10k+ each as Norris was a free agent & Pugh signed from the Premier league!

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Lol no pugh is only on 7k and norris 5k and anyway norris is a good lil player the problem is austin he has no teamplay about him he just shoots.

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Austin was our best player at the start of last season but had been playing before he got to Leeds so tired quickly. At the end of the season he was back to his best and great in pre-season and BMD really rates him so live with it.

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He might rate him but he's still poor.

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Norris is 100% on more then £5k, he was a free agent so signing on fee & wages are larger as a result. Also, bear in mind Portsmouth also signed him as a free agent from Ipswich. I can guarantee that Norris will be on at least £8k.

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27 Jul 2013 07:02:16
great news bates gone. so now tell us who owns the ground and ta
gaz1966

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Teak trading corporation own ellend road.

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27 Jul 2013 04:43:30
Red Bull deal imminent with Ken gone for good. Obvious they insisted on his departure. They didn't exactly want to sponsor a club with protestors against the president. Next month should see some big investment and some signings as well as some common sense departures to add to Bates. Wonder if Bates got a second pay-off?

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27 Jul 2013 03:07:01
Oh well, Mr. Bates did well to get us out of our initial rut, but I don't think he was going to get us anywhere judging from these past 4 years or so. Thank you Mr. Bates, and hopefully us Leeds fans can now find another excuse to use when the going gets tough. MOT

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26 Jul 2013 23:25:55
Great news about bates gone really positive step. Does anybody else think his departure is something to do with redbull. I can see ken bates been a sticking point in any deal. So I'm hoping with bates gone for good investment may become available as a result. Would you put up any cash into anything with bates as an influence. Didn't think so. Marching onwards and upward and together

Lindleeds

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Could have something to do with red bull. Its all coming together bit by bit. Prem, here we come.

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Considering his post as president was a three year term and it barely lasted a month I feel there has been some influence behind the scenes, whether this has something to do with Red Bull remains to be seen.

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Although I am happy he has gone, but the statement "it can't be that easy" comes to mind. I was of the understanding that his role was a condition of the sale of the club, so I can't understand how he can just leave and whether he wanted to.

Either way, he is gone, we are stable and actually building for the future.

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Prem lol not a chance

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26 Jul 2013 22:41:06
Does anyone know if it's a 3pm kick off tomorrow?

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Yes :o)

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26 Jul 2013 21:57:50
I know Bates is unpopular, but without him, and yes, I know the last few years have been tight and the best players sold and not replaced etc, but if he never bought LUFC, we may not have a club now. OK, he's gone now. I for one, thank him for what he did and wish him a pleasant retirement. The new era rolls on but without the old era, we may not have anew era to look forward to.

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Thanks Ken. Good post. Buh bye!

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I am sick of hearing people saying thank you to bates. he did not!save the club. it was a set up with him and krasner. there were other people who would have saved us and not took the p+++. like he did. please get real. he made millions out of us.

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I second the original post. Never had much truck with LUST and the 'Bates out' brigade. They could never do anything to change Bates plan for his financial future. They just made even more irritating and contaminated the atmosphere in the ground. He got us out of a mess mainly for his own benefit I agree but without him I don't where we would have been. I doubt whether we would have been be better off.

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Why didn't these other people buy us then?

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"I know Bates is unpopular, but without him, and yes, I know the last few years have been tight and the best players sold and not replaced etc, but if he never bought LUFC, we may not have a club now"

And on the other hand we might have been in the premiership.

just how much money do you think Bates has donated INTO the club, in a round figure?

Amd how much do you think he has taken out.

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26 Jul 2013 21:56:47
Bates gone. Things are going to get better :)

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