Leeds Banter Archive July 28 2017

 

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28 Jul 2017 21:54:34
We seem to be week in transfer negotiations for players we won't to offload. Bellusci in demand, why did we terminate his contract and get nothing for him. Same with Erwin, had clubs competing for him and again, we terminated his contract and got nowt. Come on Leeds every penny counts.

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28 Jul 2017 21:08:17
Can anyone shine some light on how Aston Villa are favourites to be champions? I mean let's be totally honest I think they could be a Championship team for quite a few years to come! Middlesbrough are second favourites, obvious with their big buys but that does not always buy success. The strange one for me is Leeds, we have been the most active in the transfer market and we have made some solid acquisitions but we are still big odds, in fact our odds have not changed! It's going to be a good season for the underdogs! MOT

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28 Jul 2017 22:50:20
Mike, don't worry about boro. They have the tactical messiah in charge. They'll go undefeated and win both cups. Next season they'll win the europa league too!

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29 Jul 2017 05:25:08
And while everyone's looking at villa and bora then no one's looking at us creeping up the league Un noticed

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29 Jul 2017 13:50:39
I'm glad no one is looking at us, we'll go in as underdogs. Both Villa and Boro are overrated and will have huge pressure on them and their managers. Villa were 13th last season and had Bruce for the majority, so why they're heavy favourites is a mystery. Boro only scraped promotion last time and will be worse off player wise and a worse manager.

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28 Jul 2017 19:44:03
Getting a bit concerned nearly start of what I feel is going to be a cracking season but where are defenders coming ! ? ! ? ! ?

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28 Jul 2017 20:13:19
Forget defenders Daveknee I need to see shirt numbers it's driving me insane now, I don't ask for much

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29 Jul 2017 08:14:30
Send Radz a tweet and ask him when they will be coming out?

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29 Jul 2017 08:32:35
Don't have twitter alf but if you would be so kind as to send one on my behalf

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29 Jul 2017 13:57:45
I sent him one buddy

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29 Jul 2017 16:56:36
Thanks mate got to be this week

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28 Jul 2017 19:33:20
Just ordered the away top for me and my lad whilst in Turkey all inclusive hope it fits when we get back😁 Love the kit loving the transfers soooo looking forward to a good season MOT

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28 Jul 2017 20:21:54
Good thing you ordered the shirts here and not buying a shirt in Turkey because from my experience they don't sell Leeds shirts there. The guy laughed at me when i said Leeds shirt i wasn't going to buy one obviously because there fake but they have every other team in the world apart from the mighty whites.

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30 Jul 2017 00:47:07
I wonder if he just knows some Leeds fans won't set foot in this country?

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28 Jul 2017 16:43:28
new away kit out and its very nice indeed. Black. Here's the lowdown on the official site:


goo.gl/WVCeq

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{Ed033's Note - He doesn't look very happy wearing it?

28 Jul 2017 18:12:30
He can change if he wants and we get 20 plus.

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28 Jul 2017 21:27:54
Just shown it to Mrs Lucas as I know she quite likes a bit of wood 😜

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29 Jul 2017 08:15:29
I think they told him to try and look mean. Or something.

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29 Jul 2017 15:13:00
Think it was something

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28 Jul 2017 12:11:46
Are Real Madrid becoming Leeds United in Disguise?

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28 Jul 2017 12:43:13
In what way? By going bankrupt and spending almost 2 decades in the second tier?

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28 Jul 2017 13:50:47
Did you mean by having a white HomeKit and a black away? I guess it's plausible that that is why we have it. We certainly look the business now. not a dodgey brand, a sponsor no one ever heard of and a terrible blue stripe!

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28 Jul 2017 14:39:59
It really annoys me when so called 'world class' clubs have nothing better to do but copy the pride of Yorkshire. get your own ideas Madrid. Sheesh.

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28 Jul 2017 14:57:35
If my history is correct Revie changed us to white in the old second division to look like Real and the rest is history. If copying their away strip has the same result we will all be happy little bunnies #justsaying

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28 Jul 2017 18:13:06
Yep ox

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29 Jul 2017 08:16:10
Aren't man utd all in black away from home this season?

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29 Jul 2017 18:01:19
Answer to quiz could be the time of Beckfords goal against man utd on 3rd January 2010 in third round cup tie what a goal. stainburnlad

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28 Jul 2017 11:54:41
Christianson has a dilemma recruiting another centre back. Jansson is an automatic starter at the moment when he is not injured or suspended. Pennington looks like he can more than hold his own in the championship and he is come in on loan to play not sit on the bench (he can do that at Everton) . Cooper is a last resort back up so there is no issue about him. The problem comes when recruiting another centre back. A top player will come to play and be the automatic choice. If we get someone of that calibre who do you leave out- Jansson or Pennington? I suspect that we might buy a decent back up with prospects. Bartley and Jansonn played together for the most part last season. Pennington and Jannson might be a good combination. The downside is like last year if Pennington does well he won't be here next season. There's the dilemma. It might be simpler to buy somebody in the Bartley class or preferably better and use Pennington as back up. He won't be happy though.

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28 Jul 2017 14:06:02
its a long season, why not use them all? Pontus will spend at least 10 games suspended as well so we need reliable cover.

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28 Jul 2017 14:58:03
Just wondering if 10 games suspended counts as 10 mistakes. i'm pretty hopeful we will get promoted this year but if we don't and certain people criticise our defense of maybe cooper and berahdi. Whether they see suspension as a game costing mistake. Cause i'm pretty sure pontus berahdi and cooper give 100%?

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28 Jul 2017 16:13:30
If he's banned do 10 matches, then that's approx 35 he isn't. in those 35 he doesn't make many mistakes at all. Cooper on the other hand covers Pontus's ten games and makes mistakes that cost us goals and points in at least what, 7 of those, therefore percentage wise it's not looking all that good for coops

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28 Jul 2017 18:17:41
Rubbish curahe. I guarantee if you include suspensions as mistakes. Pontus is our most costly defender per game time. He is our most solid cb but game time prob our most costly
Lay off cooper. He has not the talent of pontus but jeez he ain't that bad.

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28 Jul 2017 21:04:21
Fair play Aus. I don't really rate Cooper atm but I think he's going to surprise a few people this season. He's not a bad defender but he's slightly dangerous when we try to play football across the back line. I'm pretty sure it's a confidence issue. He often looks nervous on the ball and anxiety breeds anxiety in other players and the fans. I think if he can get his confidence up he will become a good player. 1 thing that certainly won't help his confidence is fans slating him on social media. I'm sure he will see some of what is written so I think we should all get off his back, help build his confidence and give him 1 more season to prove himself. I might be a bit optimistic but I think he will come good. obviously others within the club do too or else he'd have been out of the door by now

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28 Jul 2017 22:56:53
He's a professional player in a cut throats game. You can't moddy coddle him. He isn't a youngster, he isn't learning his trade anymore. He isn't anywhere the quality you need for a player at the top end of the championship. So what your saying is is that Pontus is out, therefore he coats us points. No, if he is out his replacement shouldn't cost us points. Cooper does every match he plays in. If you don't want points dropped through mistakes when Pontus isn't playing then replace cooper.

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28 Jul 2017 23:07:02
Also aus if your saying costliest in "game time" then in "game time" Pontus isn't! I guarantee if you tot up the amount of mistakes he made that directly resulted in goals or points lost then Pontus 's % is much lower. Whe you work on games played there isn't a direct comparison other than using % in this instance. Also if you are working on your argument of suspensions then surely cooper lost us the FA cup tie against non league opponents. At fault for a goal and getting sent off! 👏👏👏👏👏

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28 Jul 2017 23:10:57
I also think you're forgetting he hardly plays and still amanges to get a 6 game suspension in one go. So that 6 games, the one or two after his suspension for the Sutton sending off and he's suddenly not far of that 10 games you say about Pontus.

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29 Jul 2017 13:50:12
I totally agree with you Curahee with regards to Cooper being partly responsible for more points lost or dropped. Pontus also chips in with a good goal tally. He does get booked/suspended far too often but it's a consequence of the heart on sleeve way he plays his game. If you were to take that out of his game he'd get less bookings but you can guarantee we'd concede more goals. Cooper will never be as good as Jansson but I think he could be a reliable defender if TC can make him believe in himself and become less nervous on the ball. He will also benefit from playing alongside and more like Jansson. Fair play to Cooper for staying and fighting for a place in the team when he must know he's going to be on the bench quite often unless he raises his game substantially. It would have been easier for him to leave, especially with all the stick he gets at Leeds. I agree with Aus in saying that Cooper is not as bad as a lot on here make out. He's a decent enough defender. If he can become better/more confident with the ball he will change a lot of people's opinions. I just think people should just ease off on the stick he gets on social media because it doesn't help anyone. Yes, there's a lot of room for improvement but most of the stick he gets is nasty and not justified.

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29 Jul 2017 17:49:22
I think Coops played quite well today. There were still people in the stadium giving him grief unnecessarily even though he did ok. A couple of stray passes but a couple of decent diagonal balls out to Roofe also. He definitely looked more confident on the ball but I suppose you're going to be less nervous when the stakes aren't really high.

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28 Jul 2017 10:24:34
Nice away kit, lovely touch getting Wood to model the new all black strip 👍

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28 Jul 2017 12:37:28
Just ordered the new away black top. Both home and away kits the best in my opinion in a while. With off field on field things looking good now the players can look good too. Can't wait till season starts. MOT. 👍⚽️😃

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28 Jul 2017 14:37:40
I would have liked yellow but the black looks class. Love it

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28 Jul 2017 14:54:09
Best kits for decades.

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28 Jul 2017 10:02:02
Home kit, white and gold
Away kit, black and silver
GODDAM loving them :-)

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28 Jul 2017 09:41:09
Although I am a traditionalist and think Leeds away kit should be all yellow, I do like the new all black away kit. Maybe it was designed along with the home kit to keep a certain Mr Wood happy? MM

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28 Jul 2017 10:50:15
I agree mm canarie yellow for me, blue and yellow a close second

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28 Jul 2017 16:44:09
If we buy Jackson Irvine from Burton he may refuse to play away games.

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28 Jul 2017 17:10:56
I don't get it?

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28 Jul 2017 19:41:48
He is an Aussie and new Zealand play in black!

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28 Jul 2017 19:49:17
Barry, not many Aussies like to wear or be seen wearing an All Black jersey

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28 Jul 2017 20:32:21
LOL get it now george i didn't realize he was an Aussie actually don't really know how good he is. never heard of him.

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28 Jul 2017 21:08:50
NZ rugby play in black. NZ football play in white.

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28 Jul 2017 08:24:22
Heres a question for all the peeps who come on here regular . Hope its not too cryptic . What is the significance to a Leeds supporter of 18:15 ? A slight hint is that it will be something you all should know and enjoyed greatly

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28 Jul 2017 08:42:52
Is that the time that Mad Mick gets a round in at spoons after a game?

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28 Jul 2017 10:32:39
Did we thrash the froggies at Waterloo?

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28 Jul 2017 10:54:54
What you on about, are you being cryptic?

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28 Jul 2017 11:54:30
We did indeed Leo, though "I wouldn't lick Frenchman if he glazed in honey! "
A little blackadder quote there, there's always times for a blackadder quote! 😁

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28 Jul 2017 14:07:09
wibble!

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28 Jul 2017 15:34:36
Eye spy with my little eye, something beginning with T!

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28 Jul 2017 16:42:46
PA, is it where a group of Leeds fans tour the US for a 18:30 holiday, hire prostitutes and then insult all the hers afterward by only paying a quarter?

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28 Jul 2017 08:09:16
Wood cash in ! Bring in Helander and then Wilson for LB he can play CB if required . Would take Barts plus cash in a swap deal for Wood . Two new strikers and we would be set . Maybe a new pacy left wing option in Jan window ?

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28 Jul 2017 02:15:20
The thing with wood is. That although a fantastic champ scorer he will prob fail in the prem. he may scrape 10 goals in prem so we will need better. aren't we better selling him for 20 now rather than his worth disappearing when we are promoted? Having said that. Does it matter if we lose 10 mill on his value if we in prem? I think roofe is more able to succeed in prem. maybe we should sell wood and but a strike partner for roofe? i'm confused now! Not sure if i want to sell wood or not.

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28 Jul 2017 08:44:51
What makes you so convinced that Roofe will be such a success in the Prem? he hardly set the league alight with his goals last year. I would need to see more from him, particularly in the striker role, before making such a bold claim.

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28 Jul 2017 09:04:12
Thats ok alf. I will be bold for you. No stress!

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28 Jul 2017 09:58:40
Roofe could not hit a cow's backside with a shovel last season but you believe that he would be better than Wood in the Premier League ! Granted, I believe that Roofe will be better this season after having a full season in the Championship under his belt however he will still be down the pecking order for a strikers role this season.

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28 Jul 2017 14:09:37
Thanks Ausman - you're my hero!

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28 Jul 2017 01:22:55
Does anyone know who £4m Toni Villa is?

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28 Jul 2017 06:49:10
Playing people off the park in the division he's in, is he worth more than Pontus though? Remains to be seen. Very complex deal between Leeds, a third party, and a parent club, but conclusively he's our player if we are to sign him, he'll be straight out on loan

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28 Jul 2017 08:48:38
He is a 22 year old attacking midfielder - only just bought for 50000 euros by Valladolid in this window. Leonesa (who just sold him) want us to buy him for 300k euros but to play for them (we have some strange feeder club deal with them due to links with Bravo) - we would potentially benefit in the future if he turns out to be any good.

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28 Jul 2017 11:02:24
I bet Toni knows

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28 Jul 2017 19:35:57
Sorry, I am confused. If he is worth 300,000 then why sell him for a miserly 50,000 not that long ago. Either someone is not very good at bargaining or something smells a bit? Why give Valladolid a 250,000 profit surely something more logical would be to double their money and offer them 100,000 unless he actually is "the new Messi"

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28 Jul 2017 00:38:46
As much as I like Chris Wood sometimes our football looks to predictable and slower if we was to sell for 20 mill I say do a deal with Swansea get bartly bk I know everyone's getting tierd of the bartly rumours but we did have one of the best defences last season with him and pontus than with the remainder cash could snap up Wells and Bamford just saying two proven strikers team sorted mot

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28 Jul 2017 01:39:38
You really have a good point Revs86, I for one would not like to see Wood go but when you put it out there like that then yes I would go for that! I would like to see young Bamford at Elland Road as he has something to prove after being bounced around club to club, he's never had a chance at Boro and I reckon he is out there to prove people wrong! Good post Revs86. MOT

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28 Jul 2017 06:50:19
Bamfords like a harry Kane style player, he just needs minutes and a bit of grounding at 1 club, could be a real success with roofe

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