Leeds Banter Archive October 28 2012

 

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28 Oct 2012 22:09:27
Everybody things are not that bad were a few points off the play offs we've got a top manager the best fans and the greatest club in the world. We're also hopefully gna get taken over so everyone smile get behind the boys. We are leeds!
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28 Oct 2012 20:45:16
get off nw back !! end of !!

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What other manager is there that is as enthusiastic, memorable and has as good track record as neil Warnock his tactics may be questionable but i believe him using the new investmat he will get us promoted. Leeds fans should relate to Neil Warnocks drive, determination and passion as we show week in week out our passion and he will deliver. C'MON LEEDS

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It's a joke Neil warnock I the man to take us up! He's a legend and he will do it get behod the boys instead of moaning!!
We are the greatest in the land
MOT !!

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Well said mate whats wrong with some people aint happy unless they are moaning give it a rest we are supposed to be the best fans in the land!!!!

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Warnock took way too long bringing hall and white on against Birmingham .they should of been on at 60 to 70 th min especially hall as he warned up at half time.never give them chance to d o anything .then when they finally decided to bring them on they was taking piss to get them on aswell .warnocks tactics are poor his team are stating to look half dead and could do with another international break .i just hope we can sort things out for the Christmas period .

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I agree that Warnock takes too long bringing on subs to change the game. Surely Hall can do more than 5 mins if he is on the bench. I agree with Eddie Gray on that respect as he said as much after the game. I also agree that Warnock hasn't had much backing money wise, but why didn't we get another striker to fill the void after Mccormack got injured. We were quite lucky with the results we were getting but soon got found out. We haven't played well since before the internationals.

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28 Oct 2012 19:17:25
Is there only me who thinks Lees is either useless or totally out of form. Or Warnock is not getting the best out of him by playing him at right back. JD {Ed013's Note - Just you pal, clearly not useless}

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Hi Ed. I said useless or out of form if you don't think he's useless do you agree he is out of form or wrong position. JD {Ed013's Note - I think he is still young and learning mate. Most of the team are out of form so its hard to single out Tom}

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28 Oct 2012 18:59:48
probably the Warnock bashers are the same people who were in everybodys favourite Anti-Grayson crew

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28 Oct 2012 18:34:52
I can't believe you lot having a go at Warnock having a go at the players. How much money have Ipswich spent and look where they are. With little to no money we are still mid table. When Blackpool thrashed us at home last season Ian Holloway said what fantastic fans even when your getting a hiding you still back your players........and now listen to us were not even half way through the season and your saying sack the manager. What the he'll is wrong with you? {Ed003's Note - That manager you mention also said last year when fans turn up expecting to win in the championship you get bit on the bum(not about Leeds) but every season on all the championship sites at this time of year people start slating/slagging,this is a very difficult league where any team can beat another,that's what makes it the best out there.}

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The supporters, the team and the manager need to get their spirit back and get behind Leeds and start believing in themselves Leeds have done amazingly well to come close to promotion with no money what so ever but now everyone must get behind Leeds and believe we can get the results with the new funds think how great we can be C'mon LEEDS

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28 Oct 2012 18:28:50
The problem with our team is the midfield. We haven't one! No midfield no control of the game, no protection for the defence because we cannot hold it, no support for the attack. This is eminently clear by the number of times we are overrun by mediocre teams who can keep possession and knock the ball around. take Barnsley as an example. Oh and Charlton and Sheff. Wed. Furthermore we have no pace up front to pull defenders out of position. How many times have our strikers run on to balls played down the flanks. I was disgusted yesterday and Tuesday, this team is going nowhere. JD

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We need another Austin like player strong and fearless and yeah a fast winger who will cross in to Beccho and hopfully another striker we have been linked with Leroy Lita , Kenwine Jones and Craig Makel smith so hopfully we can take advantage of new funds and jan trasfer window C'mon LEEDS {Ed003's Note - I was speaking to Brighton fans yesterday and they are not impressed with him one iota}

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We've been like this for years pal, on our day we can play football, our trouble is we can't stop other teams who play football.....the three you quoted are in a long line of similar teams in the not so distant past e.g. forest, preston, blackpool

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I'll put a £5 on Mackail Smith to score Friday Night then. JD

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28 Oct 2012 17:41:10
Every time I put the football on t.v. without exception the fans are standing in the seating area.
Now the Hillsborough deaths have been shown not to been caused by the presence of terrace behind the goals why can't we open areas behind the goals and revert back to our English tradition of the lads singing and carrying on behind each end, lets get some atmosphere back in our grounds (Especially LEEDS )
This would (I hope) allow in the present circumstances people with a cash shortage the chance to see their team play and maybe the younger end would get a taste of the real passion instead of the sanitized games we all have to endure week in week out.

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I heard on that Villa and Peterborough are trying to trial standing if they can get permission. JD

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Great idea to have terracing back in the grounds. No atmosphere anymore at games, bring back standing on the Kop. I only got to do it a couple of times as a kid before the seats were put in! Leave some area seated for those who wanna sit or take kids but give people the option.

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28 Oct 2012 17:25:50
Just thought I would say my thoughts on takeover. Let's say we get taken over what would you want multi billionaire sugar daddies or a honest guy who keeps the club afloat with a little bit of investment because I would rather be a decent team off our own credit than a team built on money. I know its not a rumour but still let's be realistic I think one more season in championship would be better than immediate promotion.
MOT luciano

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Clubs who go up this year get 20 mil more than normal

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Sugar daddies everytime pal

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The guy who is investing is a man called david haigh he is a leeds fan who seems as if his objective is to get leeds up this year and his heart is in football so he wants leeds to do well so hopfully he will give us the money we did while keeping our club a non comercial, honourable club with great fans who will be pleased HOPFULLY

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28 Oct 2012 16:04:38
From what I've heard the only thing left to do is sign the papers. How long does it take to put pen to paper. I've been doing it day in day out for 10 years with no problem!

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You've heard wrong then pal.

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Been going long enough and keep your stupid comments to yourself everyone knows its nearly there. There's always one attention seeker

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28 Oct 2012 15:48:30
We need mccormack and somma back. Sorry to say but becchio is a complete waste of space. He floated about like a fairy all game yesterday and occasionally brought the ball down and actualy did something with it. 9 times out of 10 he wasted it. We got nothing up front. {Ed013's Note - Rubbish, Becchio needs the service}

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Sommas a waste of space!

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Too many crosses were floated over yesterday making it hard to attack and easy to defend. The only time the ball had any pace Diouf almost scored with a header. If there is no service strikers find it hardcto score

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Your right Ed Becchio needs more support but the first poster is quite correct Becchio's control is woeful. JD

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We need to get a tricky winger who will get the crosses into Becchio he's playing well but fixtures are getting harder and leeds are struggling to score because of our lack of playmakers who set up Becchio 2 or 3 times a game Becchio will score all of them he's had a great start to the season

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Somma best finisher at club hardly a waste of space then his he

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Well he's been out for ages and was never our best striker. Waste of space! As if people think when he gets back everything attacking wise is going to be ok. If he was that good he wouldn't be at leeds my friend

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28 Oct 2012 13:27:31
Kenny or Lonners?for Kenny tick agree or for Lonners tick disagree.

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Paddy is in a different league. I personal feel ashdown is a stronger keeper than lonners

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28 Oct 2012 13:17:53
To all you moaning about warnock. Who else is better statistically than warnock. I don't know but don't think mourinho fancies the leeds job. Warnock has not had more money than Grayson! Grayson bought billy bar door for around 1 mill we've bought a full squad with only double that. For any of u that were expecting us to storm this league are badly mistaken. This season the leagues got 10x harder. Yes graysons at hudders that's above us but won't be for long and if they are, we'll they have just got 7-8 mill from Rhodes that will go into the team unlike at leeds. Leeds are going to have spend big money to escape the hardest league in the world* regardless off our manager. Plus yesterday we dominated most o the second half. If one or two that had a nick for goal and pace we'd be playoffs. We get dominated because of a lack of pace. No where to pass but to diouf or a long ball to becchio. We're only 13 games in for god sake. 11 th an above Blackpool shows that the positions now isn't a genuine reflection off what the table will be like at the end of this season. Warnock in. Bates out!

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1) B.Paynter was a free transfer as his contract was expired.
2) The league hasn't got 10x harder, the teams that are in it are all just as poor (financially and squad wise) as one another which is why everyone beats everyone
3) Huddersfield Chairman is worth around £155 mill accordingly, compared to Bates whos worth £20 mill - Hoyle invests unlike Bates (Rhodes money came after quite a few money signings)

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Paynter for a million haha we signed him on a free transfer

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Bates worth £20m? He's just sold Leeds for £53m hasn't he? JD

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Bates latest wealth is estimated at £150m. That's before the sale of Leeds. He sold Chelsea for £35m years ago! The only money spent this season is the £2m quid from GFH. Bates as pocketed an estimated £3.6m in transfer funds, this season alone!

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Bates is worth more than 20 mill. He's been at leeds for 7 years making a 5 mill profit in the last few. Bates is a man with short arms and deep pocket. Plus he sold Chelsea for tons

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28 Oct 2012 13:09:51
Ok guys just like you I m also disapointed with the result from Sat, but Warnock bashing isn t the answer. Lets face it, yes the team is struggling and yes we really need some strengthening but as usual, the cash isn t there yet to get some quality in. What I mean is, the club has the money in theory but dear old ken has already laundered it somewhere else for when he finally goes, and he is going. I feel sorry for NW because I can just hear the smurf promising all sorts of riches to him for team building in order to get him to accept the job, only for all the promises to collapse. I do believe that if Neil had been given decent money in the summer to bring in players he really wanted, then the majority of his signings wouldn t be here now. Do you guys really believe that these players were the first names on his list when he took over ? of course not, or if he had a pot of cash now, he wouldn t have already brought in players we need so desperately right now, of course not. The real problem to our average start to this season is this 5 month ongoing takeover, it needed sorted months ago to have a real chance of getting us where we want to be, but thats not the managers fault. I can imagine where we would be if the potential new owners hadn t put in the reported 2m they did, we d be down there with the scourge of sheff. All is not lost yet, there s still lots of points up for grabs, but this team needs help, the manager needs help, the sooner this TO is sorted the better. Remember, there s always one team that puts in a final push (Reading) that could be us. In NW I still trust.
MOT IrishWhite

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28 Oct 2012 11:46:45
Warnock is down playing how badly we have been playing in the last couple of games. I was at the game yesterday and was left thoroughly depressed. After the game I felt worse than when we lost 3-0 at home to Swindon in League One, that's how bad it was.

What I don't get is why Warnock took so long to bring on some subs. If it was me I would have brought Hall and White on at half time to give Birmingham something to think about. Instead Warnock gives them the last eight minutes and expects us to come from a goal down! I still think he's the man to get us up, but if he continues to perform the same tactics I will remain confused.

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28 Oct 2012 11:02:59
just seen poleons goal for bury and he cant get a game with us. prob colin doesnt like players who play with a smile on there face. get the lad back now. mot

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28 Oct 2012 10:59:42
why is everyone getting so annoyed and grumpy? yes we have now dropped our early form but that does not give you an excuse to complain. no matter what you say, warnock IS the best championship manager, no matter what you say, it is proven! with grayson we had multiple bad performances and drops in form, you didnt get so annoyed then! get behind the team instead of calling them crap! what do you think ed?

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Wake up and smell the coffee pal the team has been playing poorly and sneaking points whilst being dominated by bottom half teams. Have the grace to admit that our team is not a decent footballing side at the minute, cannot keep possession and plays long ball hit and hope football. This will not get us promoted simple

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28 Oct 2012 11:28:32
Seeing Warnock out on here is discussing only 2 weeks ago we were singing there's only one Neil Warnock you who are saying this have Probrablary been to 2 games this season and have a lack of knowledge in football. If anybody can get us promoted Warnock will his record doesn't lie

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What about Warnock's relegation record - outnumbers his promotions by a ration of 3:2. By your (very flawed) logic he's 50% more likely to get us relegated than promoted.

Personally I think we're a mid-table team which is not where we should be. Bates is mainly to blame but I don't think Warnock's signings have been very clever.

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28 Oct 2012 10:59:24
why is everyone getting so annoyed and grumpy? yes we have now dropped our early form but that does not give you an excuse to complain. no matter what you say, warnock IS the best championship manager, no matter what you say, it is proven! with grayson we had multiple bad performances and drops in form, you didnt get so annoyed then! get behind the team instead of calling them crap!

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I'm getting grumpy and annoyed. In which games have we not played poorly this year? Everton apart? JD

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28 Oct 2012 10:58:13
does anyone agree that peltier is a better centre back than a right back, i thought out of a very bad bunch yesterday he stood out a little?

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He is poor no matter where he has played. Maybe we should now give him a go up front. He couldnt do any worse could he?

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28 Oct 2012 09:09:52
Is paddy Kenny realy any better Than Andy lonergan?All the stick Lonners was getting last season baffled me.Kennys ment to be this commanding goalkeeper who comes and takes crosses for fun.to me so far he hasnt been commanding what so ever.he also seems abit of a big headed little rubbish.il prob get grief from some of you but in my eyes at thiss stage last season Lonners had won us quite afew pointss with his performances.can anybody remember a top performance by kenny as yet.To me paddy Kenny along with michael Brown Andy gray and Michael Tonge is a case of jobs for the boys along with Danny Webber last season who was no better than we already had.Il prob get grief again but would anybody of liked to still have Adam Clayton sat in that Central midfield role next to rudi Austin rather than Brown Norris or Green?I know i would.

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Kenny has saved us a few points this season already,

Danny LS8

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Blackpool away if it wasnt for kenny they would of put double figures past us and what about wolves at home wasnt it his kick that started the move for the becchio goal the problem isnt the goalkeeper its the players in front of him leedsmad

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I could hav saved the charlton goal with a cig in my mouth and a pint in my hand.it took Kenny a age to get across his goal lonners would hav reached that with ease.plus kennys just a big headed little rubbish whos not as good as he actually thinks.

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He couldn't see it, it came through a cloud of players

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The problem I have with Kenny isn't about how good or bad he is, it's whether there was any point in signing him. I think he's maybe a little bit better than Lonergan but it's marginal. I just don't get how a new keeper was seen as a priority at the beginning of this season. That was pretty low down our list of problem positions. I'd have sooner kept Lonergan and spent the money on a game changing pacy midfielder.

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28 Oct 2012 08:05:51
I see the comment "in Warnock we trust" many times on this site. WHY? he is doing no better than our last manager, he can't be blaming the takeover and the lack of funds for poor results we had no takeover or funds last year. He should answer questions why is 50% of this team playing week in week out when they are not good enough.
If the prospective buyers have put £2 million into the club where is it?? what happened to the money from Snodgrass and Howson?
One day we will be back where we belong but not this year folks it is the same sh1t different manager and another year older for us all.

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I think we all know where the snoddy howson money has gone.... back to monaco with master bates

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I agree with this but Ken Bates only gives Leeds the money they win from cup games and a website money. This goes on wages as well we dont see the money from any players that are sold

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We don't belong in prem or we'd be there

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Ask ken where the money went, he isn t investing in the team thats for sure

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28 Oct 2012 04:02:38
It's not good enough, I Live in Australia so don't go to games but I get really wound up when I listen to match commentary on yorkshire radio and they say how crap we are.
Leeds have got fans and supporters who are among the top 3 or 4 in the country, I'm sure if we were in the prem and had a bigger ground we would fill it.
So why is our team so crap. Every manager we have had fir the last ten years has bought crap players or good players and then sold them. If we can see we only have about 4 or 5 players good enough, why the bloody he'll can't he. He is paid big money. How hard is it to buy the right players. Look at arsenal, they rarely buy big money players but are always up there or there abouts. We can get a team even to get us out the 2nd division. Not happy and it's not fair on us to have to put up with crap year after year after year.

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You can't compare Leeds against Arsenal at this moment in time. We went through financial meltdown, disappeared to the third tier of English Football, due to mismanagement. We have for the past 7yrs been run on a sound Financial setting by Bates, unfortunately as he has no actual wealth to invest in the playing squad, we have ended up with has beens and never gonna bees, and loan players. Aresenal have been run well, they have a state of the art 60'000 stadium, and Champions League football. A despite perceptions, they have spent millions on players.

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You really have no idea do you ! You should stick to that daft Aussie Rules Football
NW knows more about football than the rest of us put together and don't you think he would buy premier league footballers if he could, firstly there is money, I am sure we could bankrupt us by spending silly money on wages etc, oh Risdales did that and that's why we are in the Championship (watch Huddersfield, they will be the next, they are paying £20k + towards Beckford wages, they will go bust). There is also a little issue that there are 23 other teams in the league with the same aspirations that want the same players, who may prefer to live in Brighton than Leeds
It's not as simple as just going and buying players
Had we have won yesterday I am sure you would be dancing in your flip flops and putting another shrimp on the BBQ and thinking NW is the greatest manager we have had for the last 20 years
G'day sport
Harrogate Rob

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28 Oct 2012 13:07:55
Above post. You sound really bright, open your eyes. Football is crap, the football being played by the the players warnick bought. His team his style. It's crap. I'm not saying sack him just he has bought mostly rubbish and is playing crap football. He needs to imProve whom he buys and the style and you need to learn what good football is,

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Barnsley play good football and look at their team. can anyone name any of them. They murdered us at ER and were unlucky toi lose. JD

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27 Oct 2012 17:58:19
Ed how come another inferior team comes to mighty Leeds and actually take all 3 points ok we might have been poor but that's wot it's been like all season an attendance of over 22,000 fantastic support to say we're the only team in Leeds and surrounding area that's huge think Warnock doing a good job and hope e stays

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Warnocks got two months to turn it around. Might be less if the new owners have thier eye on someone else.

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Would love to see holloway come in at least we would see real passing football

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28 Oct 2012 00:31:43
I think if the takeover happens (not secure yet) we should get George Boyd on load to buy in jan. Peterborough probably couldn't turn down a good strong offer but don't pay too much.

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