Leeds Banter Archive February 02 2012

 

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02 Feb 2012 23:30:47
Lee Clark would be good as he would help us get jordan rhodes who's amazing Steve Bruce or warnock would be quality as well

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Why is everyone saying bruce?! He's bulls**t, couldn't make a Sunderland side with so much potential work. Look at them now, they even challenge for Europa if they keep improving the way they are.

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O'Neil is 1 of the best managers in the country and couldn't believe villa didn't do everything they could to keep him . that is why Sunderland are where they are. bruce not enough experience as a manager in prem but might be good in championship like warnock ,hes pants in prem

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02 Feb 2012 22:52:43
Many of us Leeds fans may not like Warnock, but he is probably the only one out of the suggested candidates that will actually give us real chance of promotion albeit probably next season........so bring him on !

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Why next season we are not that far behind ,a change of manager usually makes a huge impact in the first few games as the players really try to impress the new manager.

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02 Feb 2012 22:38:25
Warnock & Davies most likely in my eyes, they both would make Leeds alot more intresting especially Warnock in the media, never fails to make me laugh!

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02 Feb 2012 22:33:03
It will be warnock or someone else no working already as we wont pay any compensation!!

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02 Feb 2012 22:08:01
Manager Neil warnock or Peter Jackson or Kevin keegan or Gordon strachan

Assistant mervyn day or Neil redfearn

Defence coach fairclough,radebe or wetherall

Gk coach martyn

Or

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Or. Or. Or.

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02 Feb 2012 22:09:49
Not a rumour but surprised nobody has said glen hoddel with the cheski connection could be good shout

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Who hoddel ? never heard of him
heard of Hoddle

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Stop been pedantic mate - does it really matter. we are not in a class room.

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02 Feb 2012 21:57:09
Leeds to bring lee Clark in as manager on loan as this fits the current structure of the playing staff. The Huddersfield chairman is happy for him to come and get some experience it's a 28 day loan with a view to extand it.

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Hope we can borrow rhodes as well

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02 Feb 2012 21:46:23
Ken Bates is eyeing up highly sought after Huddersfield Town manager, Lee Clark.

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02 Feb 2012 21:34:05
For me, my list wud be

David oleary
Neil warnock
Peter Jackson
Ole gunnar solsjaer
Gordon strachan
Eddie gray
Howard Wilkinson

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Disagree with Eddie Gray failed on two occasions already as caretaker manager. Eddie Howe?

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David O'Leary- helped get us kin this mess at the beginnning; Strachan-superb player but useless manager, Eddie Gray- as above, Peter Jackson- wasn't his last job getting Lincoln almost relegated; Wilkinson-remember Sunderland when he was there. That leaves Solskjar and Warnock from that list. Solskjar I think would be a superb appointment but realistically Warnock to come in and guide to promotion immediately!

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Why would Solskjar be a superb appiontment ?

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Solskjar has played for the best manager; worked under him as a coach, went back to Norway and promptly won the Norwegian Championship with a team that had previously done nothing (although admitedly it was in Norway) and played the game in a way that would earn the respect of players.

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Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has been a revelation in management.

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02 Feb 2012 21:12:04
As unpopular as he is amongst many Leeds fans (including myself), I think Billy Davies would fit the bill superbly! He is also a free agent atm which I assume Kenneth would angle towards!

As much as I don't like him I would put all personal hatred to one side to see him come in and be a success at the club!

MOT!

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I like him 100 times more than warnock.
davies did a very good job at forest .with a bit more cash i think he would of got them promotion. i think if we get davies he should be given 3 mil to spend and get us promoted

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What the hell difference does it make if you like him or not,the next manager will probably have the same financial restrictions Grayson had,so its a case of getting the best out of what we have,Oleary and Graham would take some beating,sort the defence out,and make us hard to beat again,the likes of Ince,Strachan,Shearer and the rest arent up to the job,need proven managers and coaches.

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Rubbish - if Grayson had been given £3m he would have taken us up. Ken won't give any money

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Its simple, u cant keep buying wn u av so much deadwood taking up your finances! Ship out to ship in or we face money trouble again..

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Trouble with Davies is he won't move apparently at forest he was only there 3days a week.

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Only thing he could take up was the secretary

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02 Feb 2012 21:05:42
Warnock will be new leeds manager, but i would of loved di matteo to take over

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02 Feb 2012 20:58:05
Bet 365 is no longer showing any odds for next Leeds manager, has a decision already been made and we don't know yet,let's just hope we get the right man, Simon Grayson was Leeds through and through and I personally wish him the best in the future!

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None of the bookies are offering odds now

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Oh really only looked at 365 so decision must have been made will no doubt find out soon enough, let's just hope he is the right man who wants the best fot Leeds it'd

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02 Feb 2012 20:56:57
I dont like bates as much as the next person, but hes got a point with the wages being too high, and to be fair it was grayson who got these flops. Hes been sacked for this reason, a better manager would have less players with better quality, so neil warnock will be leeds manager and it will probably be announced saturday morning, and he will back warnock in the transfer market. I wouldnt trust a manager with the bad players hes brought in. I always defended grayson in the past but ive come to realise that players like howson just lost their faith in the club, and the best thing about the sacking is....new manager, new coaches, and we defo need that. Bates wants money therefore wants PL football, SG wasnt gunna deliver. Just imo ofcourse.

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Well grayson had 22 players which he could use which 2 was Goal keepers ,8 defenders,8 midfielders and 4 strikers including paynter everyone else was either out on loan,injured or not fully signed up so he didn't really have that big of a squad to choose from .

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He chose to bring loans in I suppose, arguably if we hadn't signed the likes of Brown on huge contracts with I imagine substantial signing on fees, we might of been able to get some perms in

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02 Feb 2012 20:40:23
worth a post in reply to concerns on Glyn Williams and Kenneths ' ideal footprint for new manager - it wont be a man of Warnock's boardroom experience and financial status ( he dont need the hassle )
Yes politics rule these matters
Warnock doesnt need grief at his age and his record is in place - as is his pride and respect - Williams needs to trust a manager and take a back seat

Warnock rightly wants assurances on money and players - he wont get it - His package not an issue surely - we can afford his wages at 15k and a bonus for promo - all worth it

Control and Power that is the problem and the MALE MALAISE - Warncok is too assured to take it - Bates and and Co will go for a man they can CONTROL Im afraid SAD FACT ! be someone more desperate than Warnock for work and to make a mark

shame cos Warnock is the perfect man for this job - we wont get him

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02 Feb 2012 20:38:34
I wouldn't say no to Neil Redfearn becoming permanent manager tbh.
MOT!

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Are you crazy ? we need someone with a proven track record not a reserve team manager ! If we keep Redfern it'll only get worse MOT!

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02 Feb 2012 20:36:50
Would love Gus Poyet in as manager he hasn't ruled himself out of the running and has done great work with Brighton

Floyd The Barber

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Yes he has ruled himself out

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"I would go back to Leeds at any time, of course not right now. We'll see what happens because, like I said, it's a magnificent place to manage."

If that was ruling himself out I would love to hear what he would say if he was ruling himself in. If you add in what he was really thinking it would probably have read:

'Of course not right now .... but next week following a call from my mate Ken, I'll be there in a shot'

I'd love Poyet back, but if not and as much as I dislike Warnock, I do think in honesty he would probably be best man for the job at present.

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02 Feb 2012 20:26:15
karl robinson from mk dons according to s sport...I like the sound of this, look at norwich swansea and burnley to a certain extent with young managers - only doubt, grayson was a fine young manager and bates fincancial control has ruined his cred

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02 Feb 2012 19:37:54
does not matter who we get we will still go week in week out or at least 20000 will and bates knows that thats why he will get the cheapest manger bates is no leeds fan just a fan of money

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Bates job isn't to be a Leeds fan. He's a business man stop whining he will sell Leeds when we get into prem which will happen in at most 2-3 years. Man up. MOT!

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02 Feb 2012 20:13:08
It says on Sky Sports that Leeds are looking at Karl Robinson from MK Dons to take over from Grayson> Apparently one of the best young managers in England. I say apparently as i have no idea

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02 Feb 2012 20:12:43
cant see warnock coming to leeds due to financial retraints pity though he my first choice or ray wilkins and george graham ? mot !!

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02 Feb 2012 19:45:18
Roberto Di Matteo Manager with Ray Wilkins as No2, George Graham 1st team coach.

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Dreamer ! LOL

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Most stupid thing i think I've ever read on this site.

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02 Feb 2012 19:43:03
Why is Mr Bates in Brighton tonight??

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Not trying to diss you but how in earth do you know that? Bates lives in Monaco

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Gus wont move - unless his love for leeds shows through

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Hes gone there to thrash a deal out for us to be a feeder club to them !! as he dnt want more going to norwich lol mot !!

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02 Feb 2012 19:27:45
Let's be totally honest about this... You can discount all the managers that are already contracted to clubs ....

Can you really see KB shelling out compo to another team bearing in mind that we are 'over budget on players wages' ?

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Did with Grayson didn't he!

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Grayson resigned and took leeds job - Ken Bates didnt think he'd have to pay till too late

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02 Feb 2012 19:19:44
bates will go for the cheapest possible manger fact !! who ever it will be we have to give them a chance, even though i think the majority will be un happy mot 4 life!

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And the cheapest option will be neil redfearn. all ready there, say's he can do the job and not to rule him out. he know's the set up already so bates is on a win, win, win. from the list of probables that's floating about , then why not.

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02 Feb 2012 18:34:06
a lot of fans on here want Warnock so Bates will of course announce Lee Clark as the next manager just to p**s the fans off even more

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02 Feb 2012 18:28:43
Ray wilkins to get mangers job at leeds.

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Doubt it but id take RAY anyday

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I would like to see him as manager

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Why would you want ray Wilkins?

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02 Feb 2012 18:48:43
Does anyone think SG lost the dressing room ?
Not literally btw ... Lol

I heard he lost it on several occasions.. Especially with his 'off field' antics!

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From a good source i heard he had stopped travelling with the team for away games.went in car with someone else.any guesses?

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What a load of tripe. Grayson has gone if you hadn't noticed,it's time go look forward, not keep raking up gossip like a pair of old women.

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02 Feb 2012 18:46:36
Graaanfraaanncooo zoolaa!

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02 Feb 2012 18:09:28
Not had chance to post today. However, i have a really good source at Leeds, who has given plenty of good news to me in the past.i told people of grayson's affair with an employee before any national papers or internet banter started on it. I had a phone call at 8am to say that bates had held pre lil discusiions with neil warnock, but warnock's wage demabds and money for loan signing wages could not be met.bates quickly turned his attention to LEE CLARK and my source told me he expects a deal to be wrapped up fairly swiftly.Clark was 25/1 at the time and has since been slashed into 6/4.would have posted sooner before odds changed but this is genuine info

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Warnock the man to get us moving forward will give us bite and strength, no to clark not proven nothing yet,and please no ince or bruce, ince a clown and bruce likes to spend money,plus they both ex man u so def no

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Your stating the obvious keep listening to talk sport with Durham and Gough

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Heard clarky doesnt want to leave Hudders - cant blame him can you - his director has more cash and supports him ?
leaves us with forking out extra for Warnock ( talks broke down today ) or going down the shortlist for folk like Dave Jones, Zola /Wilkins or Freeman - Id pay up and get Warnock til June - get your hand in your deep pocket Kenneth

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Clarke is a sideways step not forward {Ed020's Note - hit the nail on the head}

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02 Feb 2012 18:06:22
If your in the Yorkshire region put Calender news on now it Will show Warnock with Bates laughing n Joking , just to show they can get on.

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02 Feb 2012 18:05:51
Heart says strachan, head says warnock

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Bates says ... Redfearn (cheap option)

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Computer says ......no

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At last another poster on my way and kb's thinking. redfearn till end of season on a view to permanent. mot

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02 Feb 2012 18:01:33
How about signing Kink now middlesborough hav released him? he seems quite a good midfielder as he has plenty of skill, a good shot and pace

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02 Feb 2012 17:48:31
If we've got too big a squad then we should :

Loan out:

Sam
Thompson
Nunez
Vayrynen
Paynter
Bromby

And loan in one very decent defender and a prolific goalscorer.

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New manager will have new ideas, new tactics, new training methods. No point thinking who to get rid of until they've seen them all close up, and decided if they want or need them.

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And how many loan signings do you think we are allowed? We all ready have Townsend, O'Dea, Delph and Smith. And why the hell lend out Thompson? He is an excellent prospect, who was being played out of position by Mr. P45

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What about bruce, connolly, rabs**tkatcha, brown, forsell.

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02 Feb 2012 17:47:43
Hi ed who would you like to see replace simon as manager? {Ed020's Note - warnock, definatly! proven on more than one occasion he can handle this league, he's had a taster for premiership football, so he knows what its like. i would take him any day of the week!

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02 Feb 2012 17:46:22
people are writing off redfern but look what happened when oleary stepped in

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Yeah, but remember what o'leary inherited from George Graham. Not comparable.

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02 Feb 2012 17:45:34
Even though the window has shut there are still some good free agents out there that could do a job for us ie parnaby kingson riggott koumas zenden gyepes jaager kink

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02 Feb 2012 17:43:26
Theres only one Dave O'Leary.....come on Bates sign him up, he'd love his old job back.

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Because he's been so successful since he was last here

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02 Feb 2012 17:43:14
Leeds to sign estonian international tarmo kink following his release by middlesborough

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02 Feb 2012 17:42:46
poyets statement on sky indicates he is interested its a come and get me i think

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02 Feb 2012 17:42:07
Watch bates appoint marc robins or brian laws as leeds manager wouldnt suprise me

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02 Feb 2012 17:41:03
Dougie freedman anyone ino he hasnt been a manager for long but at least he knows how to motivate players just look what he is doing at palace on a shoe string budget

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Doubt he would leave palace right now in all honesty

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02 Feb 2012 17:39:28
We need someone who will both attract and keep players to/at EL. I would like to see DOL come back as I thought he was dealt a bad hand - and we've never had it so good as when he was there, and that can't be argued against. We will probably go for Warnock or Bruce though. Oh Hum.

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02 Feb 2012 17:30:47
Not really been mentioned much but I would quite like to see Dave Jones at Elland Road. In my opinion he is a very good manager with bags of experience especially in this league; Any thoughts Ed? {Ed020's Note - he's always had defensive issues i feel as a manager, average at best, we need someone to be able to grab the team by the scruff of the neck and take control from the word go, i don't feel like he could he went up and straight back down with wolves, and did'nt get cardiff up after 3 go's, theres only one candidate really being warnock.}

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Agree with Ed

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02 Feb 2012 17:23:18
Karl Robinson is now in the frame for the job. Not a bad option - young and got MK Dons playing some good stuff. Maybe he could cancel Smithy's loan before he leaves and take it up again when he arrives at Elland Road.

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Thats a reason not to get him

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No - for £2.5k a week for a prem Player- that's a reason for ken to want him!
(not that I want smithy back)

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02 Feb 2012 17:19:28
Lee Clark is 6/4 with bet365 now something must be happening we are Leeds

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How can you disagree is on bet365 website numpty

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02 Feb 2012 17:18:25
the guy robinson at mk dons looks promising get a good no2 with him it might work but then again i think warnock woul be the man he has never worked at a big big club like leeds and if he got us promoted he would be a bloody hero

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02 Feb 2012 17:14:09
If we appoint Redfearn i will go mental! Inexperienced I mean he goes from managing under 18s to pros at championship level we need someone experienced and let Redfearn keep doing what he's doing!

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I hope Refearn uses whatever games he is in charge like it's the only games he will ever manage. I hope he sends out the team he wants and the tactics he wants and doesn't just send them out the same as grayson and act as a stop gap. If he does then fair play to him. His chance is now really. If he is brave and does it his way good luck to him, and if he gets a shot full time then good luck again. No point slagging someone off though before a ball is kicked.

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02 Feb 2012 17:13:27
i think bates is right about the money grayson has spent just because ther loans you still have to pay them grayson had is budget but he got two many average players instead of a few that were quality theres a saying sometimes less is more all the best anyway simon you will learn from the experience and i am sure you will become a great manager you never no you might return one day i no you done your best for the club you love

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Nonsense. Bates is just quoting big numbers because most people don't work in a big number environment and think a 9m total player budget is a lot of money. Our wage budget is around HALF the wage/turnover ratio recommended by the FA and is very low compared to most of our competitors. The '600k player' Bates was whining about actually equates to 11k per week which, in football terms, is a fairly average salary. There was no fee involved so that was a relatively small ask.

Those of us who understand corporate money because we run businesses or work in a financially aware job know that Bates is using smoke and mirrors.

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Wheres the smoke and mirrors with all the crap we cant get shut of on very good money and cant even get on the bench ,they were Graysons signings not Bates,its not Warnock we need its a magician.

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I think Bates issue was more that we already had 6 centrebacks rather than 600k being too much as I'm sure that O'Brian is probably on at least that. Now I just need to go and wash my mouth out with soap as it sounds like I was defending Bates (who I can't stand)

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02 Feb 2012 16:57:10
There are lots of names being thrown around about then ext manager, but what about ray (butch) wilkins, from a footballing and knowledge of the game wouldbe a good choice, what do you think! ed. {Ed020's Note - i agree, having him as number 2 to an experienced manager like warnock, can't see them doing much wrong!!}

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Great minds think alike - Super RAY as no 2 be superb, I just emailed that also - was he the bald guy spotted with warncok at ER today ? doubt it tho

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He did a good job at Chelsea. and look where Brendan Rodgers is now, from the same Chelsea backroom.

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02 Feb 2012 16:56:22
Not a rumour just my opinion, I think Eddie Howe would be a great manager for The Mighty Whites.

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02 Feb 2012 16:55:27
is any members not going to the cov away game who is willing to let me use their membership number, im not a member myself as i can only make cpl away games a season due to family commitments and i live in cov and i was wanting to go along to this with some of the cov whites, if yes then i can leave my email

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02 Feb 2012 16:53:44
Warnock & Ray Wilkins no 2 coaching team - do me that ! {Ed020's Note - sounds goodto me}

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02 Feb 2012 16:52:10
if gorden stackhen gets the job i will never watch leeds again that jock as done nothing in football apart from a english 2nd division team celtic please dont ken

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At least your selling is awesome. agree about your point, love strachan for all he did for us as a player but he's no manager in all fairness, he'd also give Bates way too much stick for him to even be considered (which makes me wonder whether Warnock is on the radar at all)

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Selling haha

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02 Feb 2012 16:47:50
Ince as manager. Bates can f*** off

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02 Feb 2012 16:47:44
Redfearn till the end of season then either Poyet or Di Matteo will be brought in....

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Give him a couple of games if not at least keep on a coaching role he has done wonders with the youth and reses

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02 Feb 2012 16:44:10
Who cares who we get as manager... ?
We will still support them no matter who comes in..

M.O.T.

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02 Feb 2012 15:06:54
I wasn't a fan of the bates out supporters till yesterday i still dont believe it shud happen at games but bates had the cheek to slate graysons managerial ability (working off a shoestring budget) Il Ask U to look at the list of managers we are supposedly looking at and there is no one with the ability to work off no money there And Bates Saying We Have Overspent I was Searching the Internet yesterday and found that apparently we take in close to 35million in a year with sponsorships tickets etc And Have A current expenditure of only 13m when you add the 7m redevelopment it goes to twenty thats a surplus of 15m where is it ? Bates Wealth Over The Past Twelve Months Has Increased by 10m intresting ! BATES OUT CAMPAIGNERS PLEASE NOT AT MATCHES SUPPORT YOUR TEAM AND BELIEVE MOT (HATEBATES LOVELEEDS)

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Bates hates Leeds fans. he never misses an opportunity to have a go - even yesterday he was quoting all those nutters on twitter! is voicing your opinion being a nutter, person etc. in his world what he says goes and nothing or noone else has an opinion. We all Love Leeds We Hate Ken Bates

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I love Bates!

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02 Feb 2012 14:54:46
How is lee Clarke any improvement on Simon grayson?
At leasing got out of league 1 with blackpol and Leeds
This would offer zero improvement
We need a manager who can get us promoted to the premiership and the man from Huddersfield isn't him!

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Agree,glad to see Bruce and Ince odds lengthening too,Warnock now favourite again,knows how to get promoted,whats Clarke done?.

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02 Feb 2012 14:49:58
personally think bates is slowly getting rid of everything and leaving us with nothing

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Bates did say back in the 90s that he thought leeds were the scum of the earth and would do anything he could to get us kicked out of the league, hes doing his best to put us out of business!

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Shut up he would have just blocked leeds getting a CVA like he could have, then leeds would have hit the wall, moron!

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He did the same with Chelsea as soon as he got his buying out money

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02 Feb 2012 14:34:53
not a rumour but ive just checked out warnocks management stats and in all the clubs hes managed hes only ever achieved a success ratio of 43%, compared to graysons 49%! Another step backwards?

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Been in the game much, much longer than Grayson. that's a good statistic when you take games managed into account.

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That 43% has got a good few teams promoted though,so whats your point.

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And got 6 teams promoted along the way! more than any other manager!

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How many of them stayed there though?

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Grayson managed leeds 2 seasos in Tier £ of English football hardly the same as Tier 1

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02 Feb 2012 14:26:51
Thinking of taking my lad to Thorpe Arch, however only if we can see what is happening / meet players.

Does anyone know the score at TA? Are you able to see / meet players? What day / times are best to be there?

Thanks

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Probably best either writing to them or waiting until they have their next club open day. They wouldn't just let you in if you turned up

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I have on a couple of occasions they don't train on Wednesday's go about 11 they finish 12ish good luck it is fun take a camera and a.ack marker to get your shirts signed.

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Cheers mate.

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02 Feb 2012 13:56:20
The wise words of Gus Poyet..


Gus Poyet unconvinced by Simon Grayson sacking

By Pascal Lemesre, Reporter
Filed: Thursday, February 2, 2012 at 12:19 UK

Gus Poyet has said that he doesn't "understand" why Simon Grayson was sacked as Leeds United manager.

The Brighton & Hove Albion boss was speaking after Grayson's three-year spell at the club was ended by the Leeds board yesterday.

"I didn't understand the decision," Poyet told Southern Counties Radio. "I like Ken Bates but sorry Ken, you're wrong.

"I see Simon's record and it's very good. But he's the chairman and you live by your decisions. You can analyse whether it was the right decision at the end of the season."

Uruguayan Poyet also played down any talk of switching to Elland Road, a former club of his, any time soon, adding: "I will go back at any time but not right now. It's a magnificent place to manage."

Poyet's Seagulls meet Leeds in the league on February 11 with the pair currently tied on 42 points and separated by just a single goal.

Anti-Larry lot - responses to someone who knows the business please?? You're all morons....

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Theyll make some sort of excuse up to why Grayson deserved to go

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just cos poyet says its wrong that makes the decision wrong?have a look at larrys "players" he brought in

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Glad Larry the Lamb has gone

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I am anti SG and despite what Poyet has said he did say:

'You can analyse whether it was the right decision at the end of the season.'

I think it will prove to be the right decision.

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His record... even recently, might look pretty good on paper but that team were playing bad and there was no indication it was going to get better. Poyet wasnt watching the games as some of us were, he's just looking at the stats on a page. If he was still in charge at the end of the season (and i aint a Grayson hater, far from it, I've defended his position time and time again) we'd have been sat at around 16th/17th in the table. Bit of new blood and the right decision re the managerial appointment and we could make the play offs. That said, we are still up a creek because we have a lot of uncommitted transient loans and no backbone as a club or as a team. Bates has played his game of cards well. He's spent no money and hoping to get the value of his assets up through the possible resurgent spirit a new manager could bring. If we go up or even make the play off finals, the clubs value is gonna go up by some considerable amount. It's win win all the way for him.

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Grayson is very popular among fellow managers, and that's testament to his character as a man. even Wenger and Redknapp respect him after good past performances against them (look how many players Spurs have loaned us recently). can't agree it was the wrong decision though.

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Wenger - I didn't see it, his clubs on decline like ours under SG
Poyet - Supports Racist Suarez
Redknapp in court for tax dodge

Hardly what you would call respectable managers now really? are they!

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If you knew Suarez, spoke Spanish and undertstood just a little about Latin culture, then you would know he is not a racist. Poyet was spot on to make a stand and so was Daglish.

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02 Feb 2012 13:54:45
Right unfortunately Grayson has gone so let's get Warnock in may not be everyone's cup of tea but has previous in getting teams out of the championship if not Warnock would like Di Matteo but for God sake Ken not Ince surely that's a bigger step backwards then selling all our top players. If Ince comes in then what next nice new shinny corporate boxes in the family stand or a hotel built on the stadium which isn't even ours what about a deal with a Switzerland  watch company to then claim still we have no money ....... Oh wait in Bates we don't trust #Batesout 

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I have a feeling that Mr Bates may keep his crinkley bits of paper dry and let Neill (R) hold the tiller until the end of the season.
Unless any financial skeletons come out of the cupboard, Leeds are unlikely to get relegated, and unless all the current squad turn into supermen, Leeds will not get promoted either. It is a season too soon.
There will be a bigger pool of those available as manager in the summer, as well as a bigger choice of players.

I do not know the truth behind the paying big money out after promotion this year, but if it is true, staying in the Championship is a sensible option.

Leeds were here before my time and they will be here long after I am on the big subs bench in the sky, I can wait another season.

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I agree said this before it was all planed for a big push next season so they dont have to pay the creditors 1 season to ken is not a problem to save millions and another thing redfearn will be here at least until the end of season another cheap option! and lets face it a similar thing happened with oleary taking over and look what happened then hold on to your hats next season cos its then its gonna happen and they will build the tam around alan smith if he shines at mk dons we are beyond relegation this term and are mid table comfortable to save all that money!

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02 Feb 2012 13:46:52
No body has mentioned Rafa Benitez. Now i know this sounds rediculous but just hear me out.

Leeds is an easy commute from his home in the north west, he has worked in the lower leagues before in spain, Leeds are currently no threat to his beloved Liverpool, has is the best tactician in the game imo, could oporate within the additional loan moves before the windo shuts and i think he could get Leeds promoted this season.

Believe - yes
Unbelieve - no

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He has been mentioned. Likes to spend millions, we aint got millions.

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02 Feb 2012 13:38:27
How about Gary Mills from York City as manager? They play good football and are solid at the back plus he would be cheap! Worth a punt?

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Good football yes but solid at the back...you're having a laugh mate

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02 Feb 2012 13:36:44
Personally my preffered candidates are;

Neil Warnock
Lee Clark
Karl Robinson
Roberto Di Matteo

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Roberto Di Matteo Manager with Ray Wilkins as No2, George Graham 1st team coach.

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02 Feb 2012 13:06:42
you cant possibly tell me that Clark is a better manager than Grayson, he cant even get out of League One

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Anyone could gets leeds out of league 1 with the side we had

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Dont think Clark couldve

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Got a feeling Bates will go for Lee Clark ,for one reason only he is used to no money,and he isnt old enough or experienced enough to argue with Bates just another YES man.

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02 Feb 2012 13:03:55
Whoever the new manager turns out to be, we as fans need to start being more positive. Lets see this as a new manager new chance for all. There are names mentioned i don't personally want here, but if the worse does happen then i will at least give them a chance to change my mind. Likewise with players. there is alot of negative comments about OUR players. When the man gets in lets forgive and forget. The new man may see the best in someone we can't and get the best from them, new slate for all. Lets get behind the new man straight away and not moan if this player or that suddenly comes in or out of favour with the new man, because thats jsut how football works unfortunately. Case in point is Bradley Johnson, had Grayson not seen the best in him he would be languishing out in league 1 somewhere where Gary Mac sent him. New man new ideas, fresh start.

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02 Feb 2012 13:01:02
clark would be an average addition but maybe he could convince rhodes to come aswell?

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Its costing Bates money to get rid of Grayson,so cant see the next Leeds manager being someone whos employed ,costing him more money,that leaves Warnock as the hot favourite.

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02 Feb 2012 12:48:07
if we could somehow steal Dougie Freedman from Palace i'd be chuffed.

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Lee Clarke now 11-4 as next manager,Warnock at 3-1.

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Be happy with warnock or freedman

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02 Feb 2012 12:30:55
get warnock in. he'll give our team some bite and make elland road into a fortress again. all the best leeds utd teams have been horrible to play against, and its what makes us who we are, and what makes other teams hate playing against us. no-one is scared of a team who can pass the ball around. we're dirty leeds and we're proud of it.

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Yes mate! away teams need to fear Elland Road again! that hasn't happened in years.

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02 Feb 2012 12:23:08
odds on Lee Clark being next manager are closing in

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I really hope its not him, cant stand the guy

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BBC claim Bates has declared Clarke as his number one choice to replace Grayson,odds are tumbling.

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Oh well then,if you cant stand him lets forget all about it shall we,its not about liking the guy and that applies to anyone,its about doing a job for Leeds and getting us promoted,no manager that comes in is going to please all fans,lets just get behind him,and the team eh .

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Ive been behind the team from day one, i wanted Grayson in still but hey-ho, why replace him with a manager who cant get a team out of League One? so what would he do for us?

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02 Feb 2012 12:14:50
We need a new manager within 3 days as transfer window opens in 5 days.... lets hope we get a decent manager Gj
ps not bruce nor ince {Ed020's Note - emergency loan window do you mean?}

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Send the current loans back unless we plan to sign them, then forget getting more pointless loans. Lets get a new manager who can work with the squad we have.

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Sorry yes Ed Thanks for pointing that out Gj

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If we sent all the loans back we'd have a lack of depth. Delph, Townsend should stick around but get shut of O'Dea.

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02 Feb 2012 12:14:04
i pray to high heavens that it is not Paul Ince, id rather have Steve Kean

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02 Feb 2012 11:50:46
I work close to Leeds and apparently sources very close to club have revealed that leeds are getting ready to sign warnock as manager and di matteo assistant with lucas radabe being lined up to become new defensive coach {Ed020's Note - that would be an amazing line up for staff!!!}

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Agree with Ed we'd almost definately become a top championship club then

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02 Feb 2012 11:47:47
who ever takes over the leeds manager job will pull there hair out and will leave by the middle of the transfer market

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02 Feb 2012 11:14:12
if bates does one thing right at our football club he has to get poyet, don't think it will happen, it will be warnock

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Poyet said hes not coming

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Agree if we want to play decent football it has to be poyet, de-matteo or even martinez from wigan! done a good job at swansea

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It's not about pretty football it's about winning games and getting promoted.

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02 Feb 2012 10:45:45
I hope we dont get Ince, Shearer or Strachan.

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02 Feb 2012 10:45:35
To me Billy Davies would be the man- dont like him but he stands up for his team 100% and takes no crap from the opposition. Other than that I think Warnock would do a decent job and i wouldn't be adverse to Poyet, Strachan or what about Roy Keane. His attitude could be just what we need. Under no circumstances please Bruce, Ince or Di Matteo.

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Agree partially - no to billy davies though, would love poyet and think di matteo would be a good call. Bruce and Ince are the 2 worst options i can think of. Warnock ticks the boxes (although i don't really like the guy), just have a feeling it'll be someone nobody had thought of like when grayson took over

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ROY KEANE - The man has a personallity disorder which was evident as a player and more so as as a manager - he cannot man manage - would put Leeds United back another 3 years until he will be sacked!!! {Ed020's Note - agreed! no way would i want him as manager

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02 Feb 2012 10:38:42
Just reading the OS, and the Redfern artical sounds like a job cv to me. So look out, the cheap option maybe on the cards.

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02 Feb 2012 10:28:32
Please no to Paul ince he is utter sh@te what has he really done at this level? Naff all thats what. And all this talk of Jose coming is nonsense
Chorley White

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Knowing old captain birdseye he would do this just to spite the leeds fans

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More fool him then eh. anyone any idea what all this swap with cheski stuffs about? cant see it being true but would be better that that in charge.
chorley white

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02 Feb 2012 10:22:09
please dont get paul ince in fir the job! he would be a disaster!

i think warnock or possibly o'leary could take us wer we want to go!

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O'Leary? Are you drunk? He spent millions last time he was here, now he'd have about £2.50!

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He was great infill be spent the money our kids were fantastic will never forget Milan away one of the best days of my life. Every manager has the right to ask for new staff machiery etc in any company its down to the directors to keep a hold of finances Ridsdale and his BOD did not do that so DO could do a good job as KB will not spend it appears

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02 Feb 2012 10:14:15
On Telegraph website this morning that Shearer would like to talk to Bates about Leeds job...although he hasnt got the experience of Warnock, he is a big name and could generate excitement if appointed.

Would he be a good choice?

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The likes of Shearer,Bruce,Ince and all the other names plucked out of the hat beggar belief,we need a PROVEN manager to take this club where we belong,zo cmon Bates,get the best we can afford,not the cheapest.

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Better than ince!!

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Bruce is proven. He does a good job at this level then plateau's in the premiership and just throws silly money around. But at this level his record for promotion is a good as anybodies. I'm not saying he's the man for us, just think that someone's achievements shouldn't be forgotten just because of who he is.

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02 Feb 2012 10:06:53
Apparently Alan shearer has said he would be interested! Wot u think? Source> several media links this morning

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02 Feb 2012 09:37:07
i personally would love warnock to take over knows more bout promotion from this league more than anyone walk the league last year and a manager who has a knack for attracting good players to a club! i just hope he does take too long in gettin another manager in as the squad will be disrupted but who know redfern is doing well with the kids could be the one to give gimple a chance and knows more bout the youth's at leeds more than anyone but for me wont be able to attract players to the clubs but i reckon he can get a good team spirit going come leeds get to the play-offs and who knows from there this league is full of surprises so fello leeds supporters dont count your chickens just yet got a reel good feeling bout the rest of the season dont ask why though lol! MOT irish leeds fan!

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QPR were dogged and consistent last year, hardly set the world alight.
As for his knack of attracting good players, Warnock was Blackwell's mentor, if it don't work sign another journeyman striker! Tactically relies on bullying refs and motivating players, no style or class and no plan B. Don't get me wrong Warnock has got a decent record for this league, but he's a dinosaur. We need to be looking to the future, getting a footballing manager someone who will get the team playing properly and pass our way out of this league. It worked for Norwich, WBA and Swansea recently and the one thing all those have in common is that they have coped in the prem as well. Whereas under warnock QPR struggled, Sheffield Utd got relegated then sued the FA. A good footballing young manager is the way forward I believe.

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02 Feb 2012 09:10:19
the question is will billy paynter now be given another chance?

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Paynter might now try harder and become the Hero he was 2 years ago, Hope he gets a try and lets sell the Arggie

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I think every player deserves a new chance. Without blaming Grayson too much i do think a new man may be able to get the best out of players that aren't performing at the minute.

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Or whoever comes may realise how appalling he is and bin him

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Yeah they might not rate him either, point is though new eyes, new ideas, new chance for all.

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Only thing that could get the best out of paynter is performance enhancers, hes the worst striker at the club

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02 Feb 2012 08:56:19
Enough of this Bates out stuff, i dont like the fella but he is going nowhere. Grayson obviously couldn't work within Bates' restraints but that's not to say no manager can. He had 3 years to and failed to make us a solid hard to beat team, even during promotion season we were sitting pretty at top of the table and still had to sweat on last day of season. So new manager in lets get back behind the team and see what we can make of this season. MOT

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02 Feb 2012 08:26:10
mmmm bates says on ssn that he is disappointed grayson said he has been working under financial restraint. so lets get this right the first time he exposes what we all knew anyway bates sacks him.

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True!

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Hes nothing more than a bully! its ok saying he refused SG a centre half cos we already had 6 on the books. lets take Paddy and AOB out of the equation - at the time you are down to lees, bromby,bruce and o'dea, so why not take a chance on another one?

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Why stop at one? Get another three, then drop them after three games and revert to kids. 6 centre backs should be enough for any squad - that's more than Man City!

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02 Feb 2012 08:07:01
id rather get into pl playing unattractive football than play attractive football and not get there

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I think that goes without saying...

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02 Feb 2012 07:39:33
stracken has done nothing in management he would in my opinion do nothing for our team get warnock ken

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02 Feb 2012 07:36:02
o'leary, o'leary, o'leary, o'leary, o'leary.

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You have NO idea.

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Oleary who? Move on lets march on together not look over our shoulders!

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02 Feb 2012 06:45:38
To the person that said Clough would have brought us European success, I say that the poison and vile things he said about our Club could never have been forgiven, we were 2nd bottom , the club in utter turmoil and this after walking the championship the year before, we eventually went on to beat a great Barcelona side and get robbed in the European final under Armfield .
Warnock is just the same , he's one of the most detested men in football , Remember when he was caught on TV mouthing the words Break his F******g leg to one of his defenders while at Shef Utd . Our name is bad enough already with Unc Ken, imagine the Press having a field day with him and Warnock.
My choice for what its worth , as Unc Ken already knows who we are getting , would be Lee Clarke, but he would cost money as employed at Uddersfield.

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02 Feb 2012 05:49:24
Next manager odds


Neil Warnock 1/2
Roberto Di Matteo 4/1
Gordon Strachan 6/1
Gus Poyet 6/1
Steve Bruce 6/1
Dave Jones 9/1
Lee Clark 12/1
Ruud Gullit 14/1
Neil Redfearn 16/1
Gary Kelly 16/1
Billy Davies 16/1
Dan Petrescu 20/1
Alan Curbishley 20/1
Gianfranco Zola 22/1
Keith Hill 25/1
Dennis Wise 25/1
Karl Robinson 25/1
Steve McLaren 28/1
Dougie Freedman 33/1
Lucas Radebe 33/1
Phil Brown 33/1
Roy Keane 33/1
Dom Matteo 33/1
Paolo Di Canio 33/1
Sean O'Driscoll 33/1
Joe Jordan 33/1
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 40/1
Peter Reid 40/1
Sven Goran Eriksson 40/1
David O'Leary 40/1
Vinnie Jones 50/1
Gary McAllister 50/1
Eddie Newton 50/1
Iain Dowie 50/1
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02 Feb 2012 05:30:26
All bookies have stopped taking bets for the next Leeds manager. As Neil Warnock is set to get the job.

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02 Feb 2012 04:58:32
why in the top right is there an ad for cartoon myself showing wayne rooney in a scum shirt

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02 Feb 2012 03:00:02
I highly doubt it will happen but mourinho has once again said he would like a new challenge. Welcome to Leeds it will be nothing like Chelsea Madrid Milan etc... You will hate every minute and challenge will be the correct term for what he will have to face.

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02 Feb 2012 01:56:16
Manager to be one of bates's chelsea connections. As much as I despise the man he has played us all for fools taking millions off us in season ticket renewals on the back of Delphi back on loan. Aside from this does anyone else think the lack of defensive signings and AoB's comeback the day before grayson leaves is a coincidence? for me "depression" meant it wasn't ill never play for the club again its ill never play for grayson again. I hope im wrong, would love to see strachan or the cheif brought in to get the lads motivated and marching on together once again.

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Have you been on another planet the past few years? Strachan is a dreadful manager. Stop obsessing about former players....

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And whats Strachan done in management?,thats right bog all,no more ex players back .please,it dont work,we need a proven manager to clear the decks strengthen the defence and midfield,and Bates was right,why should he keep giving Grayson money to bring crap to the club,big squad but poor quality,need someone like Warnock to sort this mess out,we dont need to lioke him,just support him,whoever we get. {Ed001's Note - he did well with Celtic, had a decent European record with them, especially as he was operating under financial restraints that hadn't applied to the previous manager MON. Also he had to rebuild from the dad's army left him by MON. I am not saying he is the right man for the job though!}

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02 Feb 2012 01:40:08
the only half decent thing to come out of this would be to get zola

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I'd be happy with Di Matteo

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Why? Track record not exactly great is it? 2 seasons at West Ham, struggled against relegation despite having some great players in his squad....

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02 Feb 2012 00:02:03
Have seen most ganes home an away since 1956 apart from when i was playing myself.Leeds have been called 'dirty', laughed at in the later stages of the Ridsdale era. More recently it has been Bates the 'Bas...d'. I have lived with that and couldn't see the point of the 'Bates out. campaign. He owns the club and clearly isn't going to leave. He is right to point out that we have 6/7 cetre backs on wages irrespective as to whethet we paid a transfer fee. I can live with all this and carry on usins my season ticket. What i will find hard to stomach is coming to matches to see and listen to Warnock the@Wan..er. Can we set up a Warnock out' committee jst in case Bates hates leeds enough to bring him in. Warnock turned Bates down at Chelsea lets hope if needed he does it again. We had to put up with Clough dont let the same mistake happen again. De matteo would be the best of a limited group. Dont let the hatred of all things Chelsea colour your judgement.

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Roberto di matteo is Bates top target so I wouldn't worry

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Hold on there fella Brian Clough would have brought european and English Cups to ER - given time I tell you what you may be old but you don't know your football do you ?! Neil Warnock has the best track record at this level FULL STOP and excellent man manager unlike Grayson O Leary and co
I sat in Paris did you ? Its bulls like you thick with drink that this club needs to offload - with your Warnock out ' divisive childs play antic - act your age ...the mans not even singed up yet !! jeezez I love this club and County but christ does it have some Opinionated folk in amongst US proud Yorkshirmen

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Warnock is the best man for the job (love him or hate him) his record in this league speaks for itself - if Leeds appoint him give the guy a chance and get behind him or whoever takes over - to do otherwise shows your not the Leeds fan you think you are - grow up

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WARNOCK IS THE BEST OF THE BUNCH AS HE AS PROVED TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND ALSO WITH NO A LOT OF MONEY MOT

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First poster here. Yes I was in Paris and Yes I had to sit through Clough's constant Bile about Revie, Bremner and co. Wouldnt have wanted the trophies under Clough because it would have been all about him and not the club. By the way the comment about 'Warnock out'was an attempt at humour and I dont drink!!

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Fair enough - in Paris good enough for me .......... Clough may have been an unusual chap - but the old players forced him out - he was bullied out and looking back as mature men WE, Giles and Co know that they refused to perform for him - a co ordinated boycott - our Loss IMO - and Forests massive gain

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