Leeds Banter Archive November 02 2017

 

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02 Nov 2017 19:34:01
We shouldn't be surprised at the poor performances when the club hires a manager whose only experience is in the Cypriot league who then allows the 'spine' of a relatively successful team to leave, including 3 internationals, the player of the year and the club captain. Bartley and Wood probably of his control but Green and Bridcutt shouldn't have been released. None were adequately replaced. Grot, Wiedwald are very poor, Alioski, Klich and Lasogga not much better, no idea about Cubicki and still have doubts about Philips. I can't believe some people are suggesting Albania's top scorer will improve the team on his return from injury!

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02 Nov 2017 19:56:59
Didn’t see you having a pop when we were winning🙄

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02 Nov 2017 20:07:22
Well said Peacock!

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02 Nov 2017 20:43:41
Bang on peacock. Have faith in TC keep us in the chase a couple of signings in January. It's early doors and another 7 months to go

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02 Nov 2017 20:47:21
Think your forgetting about TCs action in the Europa League

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02 Nov 2017 20:58:14
Don't they come out of the woodwork when it's not going so good! Go back to the dark side giles

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02 Nov 2017 21:03:30
That's because I haven't posted anything before! Anyway, what do you disagree with?

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03 Nov 2017 04:35:02
Everything really Wood was average at best
Taylor wanted to go
Bridcutt not good enough
Green probably should of kept. All will come good as we are rebuilding

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03 Nov 2017 07:14:33
Green is an antique some seem to forget he didn't start last season so good

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03 Nov 2017 09:02:57
Welcome Giles - bit of a harsh reception to your first post and you do have some decent points about us not back filling for positions. I think Lasogga is certainly good enough but needs decent service, we didn't adequately replace the goalkeeper or left back or centre back though. not sure about how much of as loss Bridcutt was but we definitely need to see more from his potential replacements. we need some steel in front of the back 4 - I say play Nessy there.

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03 Nov 2017 09:50:47
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Id have kept taylor. He has longevity at top level. Green past it. Bridcutt bloody awful. Wood flatters to decieve. Thought we stuck viera in midfield for bit of bite and back four protection. That dosent seem to be enough. Now we want shaun and viera protecting back 4. How about the back four doing their job properly and learning how to defend and pass forward accurately.

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03 Nov 2017 11:20:55
You couldn't have kept Taylor he was out of contract and wanted to go

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03 Nov 2017 12:02:44
Welcome Giles May not agree with you, but welcome anyway. Fact - TC is our manager so let's support him all the way until he is no longer our manager. As for playing staff we do not know what control he has over the comings and goings. Every acquisition is a gamble. I have seen far more expensive players with far bigger reputations fall flat on their face when moving to a new club/country. So may I recommend patience. Some of us are baying for instant success and with the best will in the world, with a limited budget, it's not always possible. There are the corpses of many a manager strewn by the wayside to prove that. Quite a few owners with burnt fingers also. i hate to say Brentford is a (cliche warning! ) must win game but a good win, or even a good performance from every player and a creditable draw will show that we are turning the corner and the team have spirit and are still playing for the manager. It is only him and his staff that are privy to the dressing room and training pitch so let us have faith and remember, MOT.

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03 Nov 2017 13:22:23
Wagner did not have the best first season in charge of Huddersfield but spent time developing a style of play and identifying those players who suited the system he wanted to play. Therefore I can see the merits of remaining patient. However I am interested to understand at what point posters on here will change their viewpoint (what would it take) . Leodis preaches patience and then says that the Brentford match is a must win game. If we lose will Leodis change his opinion ?

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03 Nov 2017 13:55:33
I doubt at any point of hudds season they lost Yes lost. 6-7!
I will be so happy to alllow brentford to be 1 point below us. I don't know what is a matter with a lot of posters on here. I don't undestand how this form and results is tolerable. Is it patience or lack of ambition? I like TC. But the results are not good enough and he is responsible. History will show as many successes as failures by changing manager. Start winning or goodbye.

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03 Nov 2017 14:49:05
Bad runs and off form are part and parcel of being a Leeds fan. I wonder Aus why you don't call for Radz head seeing as he appointed TC

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03 Nov 2017 15:03:56
If players are out of contract you can't force them to stay giles, if players want to leave what's the point in keeping them and as for Christianson every coach starts somewhere and he does have European experience. Every manager has bad runs. One word giles FERGIE

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03 Nov 2017 16:48:24
Welcome Giles, I do agree43 with most of your post we should have gone all out for Bark, kept Green as for the others Taylor wanted to go and so did Wood . Personally would like to see as invest in proven gk with Lonners as back up and proven striker Lassie good but does not do enough when with out ball, I also think we need cover on both l/b and r/b.

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03 Nov 2017 16:54:32
My 2p ; TC is not responsible for transfer activity, in or out. Bartley was crazily overpriced for a championship purchase. Taylor was out of contract, and clearly wanted to leave. We would have been utter mugs to turn down that cash for Wood, who, before last season, was largely a waste of space in the eyes of most fans. As others have said, Lasogga need the right service, and he will deliver. We do need an out and out left back in Jan. That is all.

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02 Nov 2017 16:10:16
Well Having read the post on this site and being told to stay positive I’ll say this we won 2 out of 3, we have a excellent chairman, 2 we have are stadium back, 3 but have stay in this league or may be go down to division 1.cant be bad? Can it!

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02 Nov 2017 18:26:36
Sorry white, I'm not following that post

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02 Nov 2017 19:12:04
Curahee, just been positive we my be losing and may not get what we wish four but we have more then we started with at the beginning, only down side is we may go down too if we don’t pick up our current situation. That all mate.

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02 Nov 2017 23:20:02
How bad is your English Whiteman? like a different language at times.

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03 Nov 2017 09:03:46
Its when we get what we wish five that we have to be concerned.

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03 Nov 2017 09:42:18
What happened to four? Whiteman is english?

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03 Nov 2017 17:03:29
Personally, I don't come on here to provide grammar policing, though clearly others do! Our fan base is diverse, and everyone should be able to come on and express an opinion, that people may disagree with, without jumping on the back of spelling, grammar, and structure.

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03 Nov 2017 18:07:59
Delboy, if you can’t understand that then no one has any hope,

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04 Nov 2017 09:56:21
Unless you put a few tha knows and ey ups in there then aus don't feel connected. Tha knows what am saying aus

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04 Nov 2017 11:38:30
Martyn-g
Thanks I will have to remember that.

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04 Nov 2017 13:42:09
Brightwhite, 100%with you on that mate

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02 Nov 2017 13:00:37
My team for Saturday would be:- Lonergon. Beradi, Jannson, Pennington, Dallas. Shaunessy. Vierra O'Kane Saiz Alioski Lasogga Bench. Weidweld, Anita, Ayling, Roofe, Cooper, Phillips and finally Grot (Grot only because I can't think of anyone else -an U-23 maybe) An alternative - Don't play Shaunessy and recall Phillips Pennington is a better player than Cooper - needs a few games to get fully up to speed.

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02 Nov 2017 13:56:48
Pennington is not better than cooper and why alioski?

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02 Nov 2017 14:18:44
Alioski? Because you need someone wide, he is our best one at present and he and Dallas did a decent job last time out. Merits another go. Roofe is poor. Sacko ? Cooper is an accident waiting to happen. He has the odd decent game then he defaults to his normal accident prone self. Pennington, as with most of the others, had a bad game against Sheffield UTD he was much better against Derby and will improve. Cooper is at his best I think and it isn't good enough.

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02 Nov 2017 16:35:44
No pablo ? Even on the bench ? 😳⚽️⚽️👍

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02 Nov 2017 22:37:56
Alioski did well the other night? . not the game I attended he didn't, he was poor as usual, sacko was playing at the same level last season and was getting slaughtered by everyone

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03 Nov 2017 11:22:41
Alioski (and Sacko) perform well when attacking. They should be given the clear instructions - when you get the ball just go at your defender. Don't worry if you lose it but for God's sake don't just stop and pass back to a supporting player. That gives their defence time to form up and pick up an attacker. Pace, play at pace and scare the bejeezers out of defenders. Of course this only works if you are accurate with passes and don't therefore give the ball away but we have shown previously it can be done.

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02 Nov 2017 12:26:11
When was it not a rollercoaster ride being a Leeds Fan! But let's not forget a lot of the good stuff that has been done this year and that includes a bit of stability. Not convinced that getting rid of the coach yet is the answer. This board would want to have asuitable alternative in mind and who woukd that be? He deserves the season to deliver a play off place, that was the goal. Only deviate from that once it becomes impossible or we face relegation assuming we have an alternative in mind. someone mentioned Birmingham City, sacked their manager last year whilst still in play off contention, paid him off. Appointed Zola, sacked to try and avoid relegation, paid off. Apponted Harry to save the day, he did and got new contract only to be sacked and paid off. Their x manager now steering Derby into the playoffs whilst they remain close to relegation zone!

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02 Nov 2017 13:29:01
I think results determine manager/coaches destiny. don't think case history matters. Some sackings work. Some dont. He def dosent get whole season and def not until failure is certain? I would give him 3 games to get 6 points. Or gone.

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02 Nov 2017 16:38:56
3 games. ? And get who. ? I actually don't think radz is that type off chairman. He will want TC to have a fair crack at it and we are no worse than last when monk was doing ever so well.

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03 Nov 2017 11:33:51
I am a great believer in continuity. If the board are professional and strong in their interview techniques then we have to keep faith with their choice, tho we may not always agree. If you have a manager that is mentally strong and can carry the dressing room with him then back him to the hilt. We have had too many changes and new starts with new staff, new ideas, new systems. Everytime going backwards and starting again and look what that achieved. It's only with the advent of Radz and the stability he has brought that a dark cloud has been lifted from us supporters. So let's not forget the dark days. Give TC our backing and remember; MOT.

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03 Nov 2017 15:03:52
Not with you leodis What dark cloud? If you mean mc. He started the journey that radz will finish. Stabilty? Losing all the time is ok then? As long as owner is stable. I think owner is sensible and will sack when sack deserves And. Has the dressing room?

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03 Nov 2017 17:06:14
Yes, the dark days of chopman Massimo and the stop start progress that came with his choices (even before him Bates) . Losing is definitely not okay but if Radz and the board have done their homework and chosen the right man then if the right man still has the team let's band together, work hard and get out of this slump together. We have proved that we have a team with talent so hopefully tweaks rather than major upheaval is the way forward.

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04 Nov 2017 10:03:40
Great posts leodis! I think a different word can be used to explain what we are looking for; continuity. like you say a new manager would only have to start again from scratch instilling new tactics and strategies, training regimes etc, so we need to persevere in the hope that it all comes together longer term. MOT.

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02 Nov 2017 10:48:40
Ayling and Roofe need dropping. Roofe does little imo and has had plenty of opportunities but never stakes his claim. Alioski the same but is new to the league and i can see the potential. Team for Saturday. Lonergan. Anita Cooper Jansson Beradi. Alioski Viera OKane Dallas. Saiz. Lassonga. 442.

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02 Nov 2017 11:03:26
Got to agree about Roofe, waste of £3m IMO. Not playing in his natural position but you have to question why both Monk and TC do not play him there. Roofe has a poor scoring record, does not beat his man and avoids physical contact with the opposition. His saving grace is that no-one else is ripping up trees on the wing either

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02 Nov 2017 13:32:11
Hern and roofe and phillips and grot and cjibicki and klich all better than aliiski as a starter.

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02 Nov 2017 16:42:12
Grot. Holy feck ausman. Are you for real. ? I'm amazed he's even been in last few squads. He's really carp. Dunno what matches youv seem. But phew. That's some statement. Even others you've mentioned. 😂😂😂

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03 Nov 2017 11:40:53
Sorry Bats, got to say I am a fan of Grots. He needs work, I agree. Someone should push him on the training pitch widen his armoury and then he needs a long run of games to show improvement. Whether that's in the first team or reserves I don't know but the only way you get better is in games, not sat on a bench.

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01 Nov 2017 23:05:38
Gotta hand it to i'm forever blowin bubbles b team last night!

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02 Nov 2017 10:11:07
Why would we

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02 Nov 2017 13:39:54
When i lived in machester. The thing that used to bug me more than anything was that mancs only knew or had knowledge of manc results and players. Never gave credit or understood how to give credit to other players or teams! Bit like the aus rugby team years ago when wilko broke their hearts. Instead of being men and saying fair doos. They said its our fault we lost. Not that eng were better. Prob lost you all by now. Wex is prob somewhere in manchestee thinking. what's this guy going on about. As far as i know and according to a recent 90 min post. Zidane has won 7 trophies in 18months and madrid in tgat time have lost 9 games. Inclusive. Credit where credit due!

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02 Nov 2017 14:28:34
Don't get the link between 'i'm forever blowin bubbles b team'. Thought that song was linked to West Ham.

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