Leeds Banter Archive August 30 2011

 

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30 Aug 2011 23:04:30
Ken bates will anounce 2 signings in the morning:
1.A nice new boat
2.A nice new boat just incase something happens to the other one

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He already got one just seen him on i selling fish fingers, not sure if it was captain birdeye or captain pugwash

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30 Aug 2011 22:58:02
Will Leeds get this man asp;
Kilmarnock are willing to release Patrick Ada on a free transfer Gj

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30 Aug 2011 22:55:25
Now that gradel seems to have more or less gone to st ettiene... I hope SG signs somone very decent or please please please give nunez a go... Hes 100% the one to fill his boots

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30 Aug 2011 22:53:36
Gradel transfer, Reluctant my @rse. Bet can't even say his name won't put anything in the kitty now, rubbish just shear rubbish. I'm speechless.

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30 Aug 2011 22:43:23
OK so i got the wrong team but my facts were correct he did walk;

30 Aug 2011 08:56:11
FACT; Gradel will NOT be a Leeds player by Wdnesday he is going to Sochaux.
What will we do with the Cash mr bates ?
Gj

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Question how did you know before 9am when sky sports didnt ??
not saying your facts were wrong, spot on infact Big K

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Can't say but it was from the old school if you know what i mean.
Heard another rumor that we will spend big at the end of the season due to the IVA ending Gj

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30 Aug 2011 22:29:10
With rumors now circulating that SG is considering quitting due to Bates' transfer policy, if I were Fergie I'd play my best side at ER and go for an Arsenalesque humiliation in 3 weeks' time so we are placed in permanent disarray. Wouldn't put it past that canny Scot. Everyone knows Leeds got problems and the fans this close to turning on the board. I think Fergie is preparing the salt to rub in to our wounds.

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Might not be that bad a thing if scum batter us cause that might be the final straw.

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He doesnt need to play his best side,their squads that strong he could put 2 different sides out and win,it wont be 8-2 though,pity Gradel wont be playing.

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Problem is that even if they thrash us, I'm sure bates will not realistically expect us to win anyway, the result irrelevant to him - he'll be happy that tickets will sell like hotcakes and I imagine it will be televised so potentiallyore cash

The result makes no difference at all, I reckon fergie will play half reserves with a few experienced players maybe trying to get matches to get match fit again - he isn't bothered about anything other than the league & champions league, let's hope we just show what we're capable of, regardless of result and can hold our heads high after the match

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30 Aug 2011 22:08:26
First ever post as can't stay silent. Oh dear. Bates prefering to sell at cut price, rather than offer decent players a fair wage. Contrast this with relatively expensive seat prices, larger crowds and higher commercial intake than other clubs in the division. Bates needs to be removed by hook or by crook. The outlook is bleak!

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I agree we need bates out but theres only one way to do it,once snoddy & howson gone, which will probably be tomorrow stop going to games once club starts losing money again bates will go he wants his money back with interest and thats what hes doing.Grayson and fans wont see a penny. by the way i also think grayson is tactically f****d

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30 Aug 2011 22:06:55
with maxi Going to St etienne on Wednesday, i can't see us being able to spend the 'undisclosed fee' untill January were we will see around 500k if were lucky, anybody have any suggestions before it shuts? Loan or buy? I cant see us getting Lichaj as it would of been done along time ago?

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Your missing the point,its not about getting players in,its about making money,dont think SG will be with us much longer,think hell jump before hes pushed.

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30 Aug 2011 22:06:15
well... Look on the bright side, he would have probably signed for a better club at the end of his contract anyway, maybe it would be the best to cash in on him? The timing has been terrible and I doubt we will get anyone else in time to replace him... Perhaps in January?

I think someone like Wes Hoolahan would do the job...

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30 Aug 2011 22:03:10
I'm now seriously starting to think Bates is bad news and is milking the club. Did Max really express home sickness for France? How come only French clubs came in for him as the window was shutting? Why is the transfer fee undisclosed? This is an own goal by Bates. Too much non-disclosure and dishonesty here. He should know better given the interest in his ownership of the club. No-one buys his story that he was approached by 3 people to run the club and only those 3 people knew who the former owners were before he bought it. Sounds like a pile to me. Bates might have saved this club but what he's doing now is neutralizing his previous good deed. We don't owe him anything. I can see the demonstrations becoming more serious now. We're not morons Ken. We're onto you that's all.

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30 Aug 2011 20:47:36
Ed how much do you think we have received for gradel. Rumours say between £2.5-5.5 million
{Ed017's Note - Dont know maybe £3 million plus add ons

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30 Aug 2011 22:00:14
Told you that big headed stupid ******* didn't want to play for Leeds after he has handed in a transfer request. Just remember Max, you were playing for Leicester reserves a season and a half ago. Let him go, wash our hands of the little runt

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Would you want to play for Leeds the way its being run?should have offered him a good contract,I for one dont blame him,we cant attract OR keep good players,expect Snodgrass to go before 11pm tomorrow too,money before players at Leeds under Bates.

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30 Aug 2011 21:54:24
CAN'T BELIEVE IT!! Just seen it on Sky Sports now!!......Can't believe we've agreed to sell Gradel to St Etienne. That's it now we're a mid-table no where team now! Shockingly buying free agent's or people who are old and past it! Really do U seriously think we've an improved team than last year?....Coz I don't! Hope we get someone decent in to replace Gradel now! I agree that Nunez has been a bonus, but surely you offer our decent players an extension to their contract?.......Shocked by the lack of ambition we have.....shouldn't the stadium improvements money have gone on the team instead?....Then improve the stadium when we are in The Premiership! A long way off it now we will be!

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I can't believe people are still shocked that Bates is bleeding the club dry. I have been saying it since the Delph money vanished in to thin air , and have been repeatedly accused of not being a true supporter. Anyone who believes Bates saved Leeds read on ....... Ken Bates saved us? As LUFC Supporter Trust says:

Ken Bates did not save us from dropping to the lowest point in the League in the entire history of the club.

Ken Bates did not save us from administration and he didn't save us from not being able to obtain a CVA.

Ken Bates did not save us from being kicked out of the Football Association.

Ken Bates did not save us from having to buy our way back into the Football League by means of a 15 point negotiated deduction. Was it the biggest deduction in history that we were not saved from?

Ken Bates did not save us from not owning Elland Road.

Ken Bates did not save us from not owning Thorp Arch.

Ken Bates did not save us from selling some of our most promising players without any obvious investment of the proceeds into the playing squad.

Ken Bates did not save us from MPs calling for investigations into the financial dealings at our club.

Ken Bates did not save us from falling out with the BBC, newspapers, various other football reporters and commentators.

Ken Bates did not save us from making legal threats against supporters groups who used the name of the club.

Ken Bates did not save us from a prolonged period outside of the Premiership.

Ken Bates did not save us from years of not knowing who owned the club.

So please tell me what he saved us from?

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30 Aug 2011 21:53:17
So now that Gradel has gone who do people want him replaced by?

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McAnuff from Reading

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Stephen Quinn

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NUNEZ! NUNEZ!

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Rooney

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Who would want to come with Bates in charge ?

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Ben Arfa

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30 Aug 2011 21:47:53
Absolutey gutted about max leaving.
Undisclose? Probably didnt get much for him.
And its a bit late for many signings :/

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Ive heard rumoured to be inbetween 5.5 and 7.5 million

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I think you will find Leeds got/will get 1.75 million over 2 years, He agreed this as leeds refused to let Gradel go to a british team... snodgrass will be next, you watch BATES OUT !! Gj

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30 Aug 2011 21:39:09
We are now a joke club. I have never been more angry and disillusioned about football than I am tonight

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30 Aug 2011 21:37:22
Gradel is moving to St. Etienne for an undiscolsed fee and will be having a medical tomorrow...

Let's hope the money is spent wisely...

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30 Aug 2011 21:34:38
At least now howson clayton and Nunez can be given better contracts and they don't walk away on frees at the end of the year

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Ha! Ha!

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You think?!

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Hope not think

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30 Aug 2011 21:26:26
So so angry right now, someone just tell me why. Haven't felt This upset a player leaving since radebe retired, max coUld have become a leeds legend.

Let's watch bates pocket the cash, doubt were sign anyone now. Come on nunez your our left sided man now!

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30 Aug 2011 21:19:29
So looks like gradel has gone unless we sign and i dont mean loan average youths from supposed bigger clubs again ,we need to sign good solid players who have experience at champ or higher level, otherwise we wont be doing anything this season, i think we have showed a real lack of ambition and we are in real danger of becoming a mediocre championship team with the best fans in football !
simon, ken i dont care who just sort my club out PLEASE
Big G

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30 Aug 2011 21:16:03
Gradel fee? Any ideas? I hope the money is going to be used for new players every penny, no reason y it shouldn't now we r clear of debt. Delph,beckford, kilkenny, Johnson, and now gradel gone, our league 1 squad was much better than it is now, we NEED to spend money, or its back to league 1 with a much worse squad

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30 Aug 2011 21:12:51
Heard about gradel so contacted my brother to see who lives in France to see if he had heard anything concrete hes just msgd me to say the fee for Gradel is being quoted as 2.5m so much for the 10mil hey gutted

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30 Aug 2011 21:01:31
Do leicester get a part of gradells signing? Im in tears here

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Whilst gradel Laughs all the way to the bank!

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Im real hoping leicester do g et a slice of gradells signing fee,,,,,, if nothing more to pay for bekfords train fare to the land of the foxes!!

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30 Aug 2011 20:41:46
Look on the bright side... At least Nunez will get a chance now! he should have played at weekend !

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Nunez is no replacment for Gradel - he is a passenger when we don't have the ball - Nunez is more suited to playing off a front man - Gradel had strength, could track back and defend, pace power and score goals - we have too many players who don't 'show' without the ball - Howson included - what the hell is going on!

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30 Aug 2011 20:41:34
Does Grayson just stand there and take this crap from Bates lost all respect for him just a yes man what a wimp ,to finish 10th my backside will maybe stop up by the odd point if were lucky .

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30 Aug 2011 20:40:42
I think Simon is going to be very busy tomorrow !

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Yeah possibly but we won't sign anyone worthwhile, imo players don't want to play for him

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Dream on,we wont sign anybody unless its another loanee that nobody else wants,should have kept Mendy ,it was obvious Gradel would be going,dont think thats the end of our departures either.

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He might well be busy resigning not signing. How long can he stand being left as the fall guy

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30 Aug 2011 20:35:12
Gutted with gradel guaranteed we dont find outhow much they have paid us for him!need to act quick now Quinn would be my choice would be happy if we get him anyone else Ed?

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7.5 mill if Wiki is to be believed

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30 Aug 2011 20:33:15
leeds SHOULD loan :
Andros townsend
Sanchez WAt
Eric lijah(hower you spell it)
clint hill

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30 Aug 2011 20:33:08
Come on then Kenneth sow some ambition and replace Gradel if Nunez is the answer thn bring someone in for the bench to replace him.

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30 Aug 2011 20:28:17
Is bates a businessman?.mm no.a businessman would not let key performers leave.he would make sure contract in place in plenty of time.then if another club wanted him price would be far higher.gradel gone for prob next to nothing,we will never know.we are a laughing stock,premier league,ha.
Nothing will happen tomorrow,maybe a poor excuse of a signing to make Simon feel better.you know a poor excuse like A player off pfa list with no club.to those of you who say good riddance to max.you idiots.you obviously have no ambition either.
Lansbury,lichaj,Kelly,will be same as bowyer,Andrews,smith,mendy,Santa cruz, mmm no chance.
From a very disgruntled Leeds fan who has to look forward to poor season and lots of defeats.you can agree or disagree,don't care.I want us back to where we belong,it appears leeds bosses don't agree

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30 Aug 2011 20:27:25
I have been one of the optimistics for this season and think we have been unlucky. But I'm fuming tonight. Why sell one of our best players a day before the window. Fair enough there has been a transfer request but this should have been sorted ages ago . Sold or offered a new deal. Undisclosed too we don't even know how much were getting. We better make some signings tommorow. Is nunez good enough people?

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Nunez v Gradel no contest we are a joke

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30 Aug 2011 20:22:41
How's life in the Championship? It's going to be fun when we batter you in the League Cup.

G.A.G.U.S

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Won't be as fun as when u lost to a league 1 team in the FA Cup

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30 Aug 2011 20:26:37
Bye Mad Max, we'll miss your antics but we'll get by just fine.

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30 Aug 2011 20:23:28
Why are all of bates transfer dealings 'undisclosed fee'

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So we are not held to ransom in transfer dealings ! Assuming we might ever do any LOL.

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30 Aug 2011 20:21:45
Use Gradel cash to buy back Beckford in time for Man U game? Then watch him leave on another free in 2 years' time?

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30 Aug 2011 20:16:20
Clearly Leeds have got NO ambition! we have just sold our best player, Max Gradel, and i can garentee that Big Ken is probably going to spend the money on building a lake in the car park by the west stand and he will put a yacht on it just to piss leeds fans off a bit more!! it is a joke and quite frankly, i can see us doing god damn average this season! i mean dont be silly, we wont go down but it will be a tenth place finish at best!

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I'd settle for tenth place. anything top half is about right for our squad.

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30 Aug 2011 20:16:05
Reluctantly my backside there's a reason bates sold him now because its to late for simon to spend any of the fee, then come jan bates will give grayson nothing and will pocket the cash just like delph and Scmeichel.st etienne were interested mid summer but no he sells him now 24hrs before deadline,watt to replace gradel don't make me laugh no one can replace the goals and class of gradel we were short in midfield before never mind now,but why should bates care about us morons as he calls us.

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30 Aug 2011 20:14:23
Leeds have to use gradel money or we will be in trouble.

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30 Aug 2011 20:12:26
Undisclosed fee for Gradel?! Unacceptable Ken! Disrespectful! This isn't some part-time squad or over the hill player we are selling. He's our best player. If you can't tell us how much we sold our best player for why should we trust you Ken? No-one is going to hike their own transfer prices in the 1 remaining day left of the window if you announce it. Everybody knows Ken is tight and loves a freebie. So why not tell us how much you sold Max for? Fans deserve it but you don't deserve the fans. Last straw.

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Maybe he states it as undisclosed so as other teams don't know how much money we do have and therefore can't hold us to ransom in transfer dealings

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30 Aug 2011 19:59:21
Right gradel gone get mendy bak get quinn from shef and get lichaj not rocket science o and landsbry would cheer me up aswell
Lufc hughzy

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Spot on. i agree but i can't see in us getting more than 1 on loan, were doomed mate Gj

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Mendy signed for some league 1 club. Sanchez Watt is a better shout.

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Gone to chesterfield

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30 Aug 2011 19:58:34
Leeds United have reluctantly accepted an offer from French club Saint-Etienne for Max Gradel. {Ed017's Note - Its on the Leeds Website too

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It says we didnt want to sell him in the domestic market as this would hinder our promotion chances,WHAT,and selling our best player will improve it will it,Im not suprised hes gone after the way hes been treated,we should have tied him up months ago,he said he wanted to play for Leeds for a long time to come,but looking at the players were fetching in and lack of movement in offering him a contract hhas forced his hand,once again its a fee not disclosed job,FFS,would cost millions to adequately replace him,so the team is weakened yet again,of course Bates will put a different spin on things as usual such as we cant hold onto a player who doesnt want to be here,but HES the fault,not Gradel,expect another inferior loan signing as a replacement,now what shall we build next?its a joke.

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30 Aug 2011 19:57:03
Gradel signs for saint etienne after a transfer request this morning. Fee undisclosed.. (what a suprise) time to go bates. We have 24 hours to replace him!! No1 wants to loose him for free but sell him 2 week ago.... Give us some time to look what we can replace him with. Complete disgrace

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30 Aug 2011 19:55:42
pooe mans shaun wright philips off surely if he's not happy were better of without him and with the cash but trust me if larry doesn't sign someone big i doubt our play off ambitions

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30 Aug 2011 19:43:37
What the hell is happening to the once mighty Leeds united the fans can see where the squad needs strengthening why can't the management address this accordingly and then there's the players contracts you can't blame the players wanting to go somewhere that will offer a longer contract for them for security surely only offering players shorter contracts put a bad

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30 Aug 2011 19:42:58
Gradel to st etienne sky sports just announced it Leeds have accepted bid and personal terms been agreed well done ken sell our assets what's wrong can't afford your executive boxes so you sell your assets last week you said he's not going

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30 Aug 2011 16:24:24
Not one for conspiracy theories but why is it a relatively unknown, poor French side that's the only one looking at gradel. I mean are they really better than us? Sounds like bates has been doing some wheeling and dealing in Monaco....

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Not just Gradel apparently if the rumour site is to be believed,Snodgrass to Fulham for 6.5 million,if they both go were in trouble.

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If someone offered 6.5m for Snodgrass I would snap their hands off..

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If someone offered 65p for snodgrass i would snap their hands off

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30 Aug 2011 14:22:07
let gradel go he is not a leeds united
player if he was he would of accpeted a new contract with
leeds sell gradel and get beckford
if he can get a goal agenst man u
he can do it agen (he wants to come
back to leeds

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What new contract??

is this beckfords agent?

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If Gradel had been offered a half decent contract I think he would have stayed,hes stated his love of Leeds Utd and despite great performances still no contract,can we really afford to lose our best player? the team will be weaker without him,would cost millions to replace him properly,typical Bates philosophy,sell for millions,then get loan players in,how can we build a side to challenge for promotion,keep hold of Gradel and get 3 or 4 of the same calibre and weve a good chance,as we are well struggle.

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30 Aug 2011 14:02:02
looking like bleak times ahead, bates aint put his hand in his pocket so far so i doubt he will in the next 36 hrs, mid table best and the reason is the squad size, we dont have the experience or quality toi step in for injuries or suspensions and if max goes then bates has told lies all along.

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Bates out Bates out Bates out

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30 Aug 2011 13:31:29
Obviously Bates does not want us to get promoted again this season
Turn the lights out and close the door on your way out Master Bates

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Bates out Bates out Bates out

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30 Aug 2011 12:06:12
Bye bye gradel. Wotever happened 2 “I want to play for leeds for a long time“ money talks, bulls..t walks. Lacy leeds

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Another one who believes everything he/she reads.

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30 Aug 2011 10:45:59
Anybody know the official date for the carling cup game v the SCUM !

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Sky are looking to screen the game so would be subject to them....prob on the 20th or 21st (Sky normally go for the Tuesday's so prob 20th - 7:45)

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Official website says ticket details to be announced tommorow, so hope would be on then. Suppose if depends on SKY, as its likeley to be one of the TV games.

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30 Aug 2011 10:37:55
I have just read in my crystal ball that the fee for Gradel will be.... undisclosed as per usual

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Well blow me down you were right!

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30 Aug 2011 10:09:17
Guys ... Do we really want promotion? If Ken won't invest now, what chance do we have in PL. We would be whipping boys !

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Prove all LEEDS fans your not a t**t mr Bates
And give Grayson some cash for proper players
Not other peoples rejects

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30 Aug 2011 09:57:12
Now that Bates hasn't offered Gradel a suitable enough contract and let him toddle off to Sochaux for a couple of million (good luck Max btw), I'd either like to see Nunez step up to the plate, or, sign Jobi McAnuff from Reading

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30 Aug 2011 09:50:30
If Gradel goes to Sochaux then thats all Ken Bates fault for not offering him a contract reflective of how well he did for us last season. Good luck Gradel, you were a great player and put 110% into everything you did on the pitch and were passionate and proud of wearing the white shirt! You gave the fans lots to cheer about and I'm sure you'll be remembered at Elland Road for a long time. Good luck! MOT!

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Yeh I agree mate. Nunez should and will start but McAnuff would be a very good signing

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30 Aug 2011 09:47:25
oh dear,gradel is off to france.
could live with that if i saw 3 or 4 decent faces in before deadline with the money.
but lets face we wont have anyone,even forsell will go elsewhere as better teams are sniffing..we are no longer attractive to play for,
just look at pfa players list of unattached players and ul find our signings there.god forbid

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30 Aug 2011 09:45:10
If the rumour is true about Max leaving for a sizeable sum I hope that Grayson will b allowed 2 spend it but wisely as some of his recent buys have not been very good ie Billy P Fred B and AOB
I fear we will only end up with who we can beg off other clubs while uncle ken counts the money
Keith LUFC

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Agred with above poster, We will end up scratching round for players to come in. Its the same every year, dont why we expect any different,

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30 Aug 2011 07:38:59
Leeds are going no where this year.

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And ? I still love them ! :@)

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30 Aug 2011 07:10:10
Hi guys has anyone had a problem with online leeds superstore? ive order the black away shirt the friday before west ham but still not received it anyone had same problem?

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Ordered mine the Thursday before it was due to be released and got it the next day

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30 Aug 2011 06:54:57
Simon needs to address Leeds defence again.Should
go for O'Dea and Lees in CB, Lichaj as RB, Kelly in LB
Since his injury Kisnorbo a shadow of his former self.
White not a LB. He has pace but not quite comfortable as a LB. Simon needs to get a pacy
experienced LB. He also needs to bring in a defensive
midfielder. Brown's not the answer.He has experience
but lacking match fitness and pace. Past his prime.
Come on Simon, the transfer window closing this week. Do something fast. Grella has been sold to
Bradford. Use the money to get Leeds a decent LB.
The money Leeds got from the Kasper sale to Leicester can be used to buy a decent CB and a defensive midfielder. Forsell is an option. Leeds already have too many strikers.Beechio coming
back after the Palace game.Leeds fan.

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Grella hasn't gone to Bradford. He went to Brentford and on an initial loan deal before we terminate his contract. IE... Free ! So no cash there ! :@)

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You are actually clueless arent you!
Stephen Kelly is a RIGHT BACK not a left back. Lichaj would be a surprise if he joined and Grella went to BRENTFORD.

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You mean brentford notBradford and we got no money from that transfer because his contract was terminated

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The only power we have is in our feet, don't go to games, if the club income is affected action will be taken.
All else is mere fluff to a businessman that has a plan.

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