Leeds Banter Archive December 31 2011

 

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31 Dec 2011 22:44:07
Bring Eddie Gray back give him rest of season !!

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Been out of the game to long, i plyed under him in the eighties, only reserves but he's not the man for this job! mot

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No disrespect to eddie but he expects us to stuff teams 4-0 each time lol

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Bring back o'leary

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31 Dec 2011 22:06:07
Grayson should not Sign Pugh and keogh .

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Grayson should leave with them

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31 Dec 2011 21:22:01
would just like to point out since howson got injured leeds have been appauling...i think its fair to say he is the cogs that keep leeds turning

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I Did post this but why disgree

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No u didnt post this...i did

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31 Dec 2011 21:19:20
grayson says there is going to be new faces before the burnley game...i f****** hope its di matteio!

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Very good lol

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31 Dec 2011 21:14:34
A big NOOOOOOOO to Di Matteo, Poyet, Hughes, Zola, Davies. None of them would do any better than SG under Bates' constraints.

I would only be happy to see Grayson go if Strachan came back. He has that fire in his belly for Leeds United which I'm sure would make him a success.

MOT!!

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What a joke - just because he played well for us. His management record is sh*te.

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Yeah,lrts get Strachan AND Smith back,be even worse then than we are now,no more ex playes as managers please.

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The only reason grayson isnt a returning player is cause leeds let him go as he was as bad a player as he is a manager

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I bet you're a cracking player aren't you!

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31 Dec 2011 21:05:46
Any idea who these one or two players who will never play for Leeds again are? Mentioned in SG's interview after today's game.

I'm hoping its Connolly and Kisnorbo personally.

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Kisnorbo I'd agree with. Connolly's ordinary but isn't handing goals on a plate like Paddy. Sad...

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Paynter hopefully lol

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31 Dec 2011 20:49:58
Bates will not sack Grayson ,why ? Because he would have to pay him out of his contract and Bates will not spend money, plus a new manager would demand a transfer budget of more than 300 ,000 .

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31 Dec 2011 19:36:51
Promotion is our aim however if we can't afford players for the championship- £350k out there today in total, how the hell could we compete in the premiership? Lack of investment is 99% of our problem. We can't expect a squad of free rejects and loanees who can't make their own team along with a couple of inexperienced teenagers pull it off week in and week out.
No company succeeds with no investment forever- time to spend big if dreams to be realised otherwise we will continue to be a laughing stock

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Correct! A new manager would make no difference under these conditions!

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31 Dec 2011 19:36:44
Although I have done some coaching,
played at a reasonable amatuer level and watched Leeds as a season ticket holder I do
not understand some of the
Managers team selections and
tactics can anyone explain why.
given the alternatives. Becchio and
Clayton were on the bench, Nunez
was again played out of position
often leaving White to look like muppet (because as eveyone knows he always wanders
inside), Pugh was playing centre mid field, O'deah was selected in front of Bruce when he was, according to SG, only 75% fit. Why
was there so little effort? Has SG
lost the dressing room? If so has it
something to do with the Sun's
disclosures about SG's personal life?
Is that why O'brian acted the way
he did, why Bruce stopped being
selected, why others dont want to
come to Leeds and why others
dont want to stay. Or is it just
about money, tactics, Bates etc?
Any thoughts out there?

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I think Grayson may have lost it now, and hard to see a way back. Snoddy and Howson are out and one of our best players, Somma is nowhere to be seen?

What is happening?

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Clayton's looked tired of late and Becchio has been beyond awful all season. That made sense to me - and I've played at a decent level and coached too. One thing I know from that is that there is a vast gulf between semi-pro football and the stuff we pay to watch and that no-one on this site knows as much as the pros. We don't see the players in training; we don't see the problems players have with others in the squad that can cause problems on the pitch and so on.

Somma's recovering from a serious injury, by the way, which anyone who goes to the games and follows the OS would be aware of.

Our team has an unbalanced paper-thin squad and massively overachieved last season. That's driven expectations amongst the less intelligent fans way too high.

Today we put out a team which cost less than 400k to build - what do you realistically expect for that?

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Hurray for a sensible post at long last!

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Mccormack cost 350k and lonergan cost 200k...how on earth did you get a 400k total from that?

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31 Dec 2011 19:24:10
Think we've missed the pace and. Opotunist type of goal gradel and beckford scored. They usually made them by themselves and now just rely on long balls always giving ball away basicly we've no idea you have to blame grayson

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31 Dec 2011 18:44:21
Has anyone ever stopped to think yes simon picks the players he wants to buy but,what about the scouts that simon sends to watch these players over a period of time,if they were to report back and say there not good enough then things might be different.gwyn williams,mervyn day and co have to take some blame as its a team effort.

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31 Dec 2011 18:41:38
It's a shame if larry does go has he lost the changing room only he knows that but the boyd are not playing for him and that's obvious to see injuries are killing us as well but if he does go wouldn mind Alan curbishley please not strachan loved him as a player but he's no manager

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31 Dec 2011 18:21:19
happy new year to:
the anti-grayson crew
the pro-grayson crew
the anti-bates crew
the pro-bates crew
the drop howson crew
the keep howson in the team crew
the rose tinted glasses man
GJ who loves to post
all Eds
those who have sources close to LUFC
billy barn door bashers
any other groups feel free to post them
and just general Leeds Fans all around, lets hope 2012 brings around better fortunes for our beloved football club

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31 Dec 2011 18:17:57
What about ray wilkins anyone? not sure he would work under bates but gotto admit done brill job at chelsea under ancelotti jus a thought thats all...

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31 Dec 2011 18:17:02
Gordan strachtan 10/1 good shout

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Dnt think he would be good for us love him to bits as ex player but nt had great success in english league what bout mk dons man ? or lee clarke or aidy at northamton ? mot !

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31 Dec 2011 18:17:00
Enough time?

Unfortunately we have now got Howson and Snoddy out, but that doesn't mean we should be rolling over as we seem to be doing?

Grayson has had enough time, and possibly the money, to do something better?

Where the hell is Somma?

Something is looking wrong here, we have about a month to start getting it back together or start avoiding relegation?

Grayson? Put up or walk?

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He's had no money - all documented in the public domain. This season alone he's had £5 million taken from him (Gradel/Schmeichal) and only had £100k on Lonergan.

In the last 5 years our net transfer cash flow has been almost £11m - NEGATIVE - that means over £10 million received more than we've spent on transfers.

At least do a bit of research and get your facts right before mouthing off....

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Somma's been injured for months - what planet are you on?

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I am on this planet, mate, unfortunately Grayson doesn't seem to be at the moment.

How can we have the likes of Bechio and Nunez on the bench at the begining of the game?

I watched Leicester play today and couldn't believe Beckford was left on the bench till 3/4 through the game?

These managers do not realise what they have got, for f**ks sake lets put our best team on at the start of the game??

Unless things improve, and fast, I'd be right behind Bates in looking for a new manager, as Grayson seems to have lost something serious here?

4-1 Barnsley? Heaven help us all....

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11 million negative? Thats precisely why we all SHOULD be mouthing off here?

How much more do we need to see go elsewhere?

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Nunez was on from the start and Becchio barely deserved his place on the bench. I'm guessing you don't actually watch the games because Becchio has been only 3rd to Paddy and Rachubka this season when it comes to playing badly.

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31 Dec 2011 17:49:05
Grayson's players are just not good enough! We have one decent keeper and he's on loan! Two promising defenders Lees and White. Clayton and Howson in midfield and Snodgrass on the wing. I'm afraid none of our other players would get in the better sides in the Championship!! We will finish in the lower half by season's end! We need investment, that's the reality!!

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Lonergan's a quality keeper and we bought him. Completely agree about the others. You can't polish turds and when Grayson goes it won't be any better unless some of the money from Delph, Gradel, Schmeichal etc is put back into the team.

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Lonergan may be quality but we've lost every game since he's been back in, admittedly Howson has also been out.

We need to clear out ALL the deadwqood and start afresh, keeping the players you mention and bringing a few more youngsters through.

We aren't going to be promoted this year now so would be a good opportunity to bring them through.

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31 Dec 2011 17:43:12
leeds are a very poor team just spent £200 on a adult and junior ticket for derby and barnsley with travel and drinks will be thinking twice before doing that again some clubs give fans there money back when there play that bad

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Only game I could have made at this time of year was the Burnley one, and I know I will be slated for this, but with a 300 mile round trip, and over £200 expense to do it all I can't see a lot of point? I will support Leeds till I die, but I seriously cannot afford to spend that sort of money on what is fast becoming a lost cause this season?

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Dont blame you mate if lufc wont spend why should we?i am supposed to be traveling over in march from n.ireland but having serious second thoughts.

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31 Dec 2011 17:38:38
Ken Bates and anyone else demanding promotion are deluded. Mid table is best we can aim for with this squad. unfortunately we're showing relegation form at present. someone needs to stop this, and Simon Grayson doesn't seem to be making a good job of it.

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I think mid table is being pesimistic after the last 4 games?

Anyone still think Howson is crap?

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Howson is not the team u plank, theres no unity. BTW howson isn't crap, just not a centre midfielder. He's an attack midfielder.

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Yea me...love him to bits as a leeds lad through and through but is so inconsistant to me a league 1 player..the only player i think we could take into the premership would be snodgrass or maybe clayton

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To the above, personally I think Howson was bad in League 1. Below average. Last season he proved he is a Championship player when played in the right posision. But then questionabley Grayson has played him in a holding midfielder role this season, apart from one game, and what happened there? (4.0 away to Forest).

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31 Dec 2011 17:14:07
My view is this: Yes we look awful, it looks as if SG has lost the dressing room. He should be given the next 2 games to try and produce an improvement. If we look transformed, give him the kitty in Jan and keep him until the end of the season, come what may, promotion or no promotion. If we get destroyed in the next 2 games, let SG go and give the kitty to the new manager. I have supported SG, and even now want him to stay. But there might come a point very soon when it is best for everyone that he goes.

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Based on Graysons previous purchases it's probably best NOT to let him spend anything, and keep it all for the summer transfers, with or without him?

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31 Dec 2011 17:00:38
Simon will be given this season or until it is mathematically impossible to reach play offs its in his contract, and bates can't afford anymore compensation on managers after blackwell took them to the cleaners and mcallister also.I say spend the money on players and not on compensation then when his contract is up then get rid,sacking grayson is not the answer who is to say next manager will do any better.

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Simons days are numbered the players have lost respect for him and snodin bring in mark hughes they might respect him for what player he was thats my choice anyway dont want strachen or bruce

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Mark Hughes? NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Totally over-rated as a manager, and wouldn't last two minutes with Bates' couple-of-shillings transfer kitty.

I still think Strachan could do well at Leeds. He may have not done so well at other places but this club means the world to him. He's the only manager I would be happy with if Grayson gets the bullet.

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31 Dec 2011 16:51:26
Just one word RUBBISH, oh and by the way Happy New Year. Boy do we need a better one.

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31 Dec 2011 16:44:45
The bookies have started with the next leeds manager
Looks like Larry will be put out of his misery very soon

www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/leeds-specials/next-permanent-manager

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Di Matteo 3/1 fav

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31 Dec 2011 16:43:55
Grayson after game saying some players who played today might not play again you could say the same about him managing leeds for another game couldnt you he is a bulls**tter

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I could have told him 10 games ago some of these players should never play for Leeds again!

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31 Dec 2011 16:38:54
Sean odriscall,marc robins,brian laws there the only managers we could afford and who would work with tight arse bates before anyone clicks disagree actually think before you type managers names in who would never work under bates

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Brian laws? id rather chew my own face off

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Dario Gradi - he worked wonders with no money and Crewe taking them from league 2 to championship. He also left and came back to steady the ship when it went t*ts up Offer him a deal with a decent wage. (unfortunately he is 71)

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ANY manager currently out of work would jump at the chance to manage Leeds,regardless of Bates,its a foothold back in the game and if they prove a success,the skys the limit,we may allbe suprised at who takes the job once SG gets his P45.

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Gordan strachtan anyone?

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31 Dec 2011 16:35:48
Has Grayson been sacked yet? If not, why not?

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Grayson definitely needs to go..... he has put Lonergan back in goal when Alex McCarthy is far better. He is deluded with our defence....apart from Lees and White, all the other defenders are no good or past it! Connolly is the worst, would not get in a Conference side! We have only three midfielders worth their place in the squad....Howson, Clayton and Vayrenen. Nunez n Sam are too inconsistent and Brown and Pugh are has beens! Up front we havent got a player who can change a game. McCormack is not all that, Becchio not the force of last season, Keogh can't score goals at all. Forsell just picking up money for nothing. Somma is the best goal scorer in the Club but been out all season! Thank fook for Snoddy ..... now he's out for a month :( I'm Leeds through and through for 40 odd years but this ranks with the worst times since The Don took over .....WE NEED CHANGE and NOW!

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Clayton as been one ov r best players n without mccormacks goals we would b in the bottom three

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31 Dec 2011 16:33:26
When players stop playing for you - and lose - its time to go - some of the players would be OK with that I think and thats the problem - he has lost the players. Time for most of them to be sold off fast - which i suspect is what they desire - this happened with the relegated side with players like Viduka and co - all wanted out and new contracts elsewhere and the best way was to stop playing for the team and let results slide - engineering moves and create change via a 'managed decline' - very sad if true - get shot of them I say and lets start afresh

In an ideal world I'd have Poyet home as we can't attract Holloway or a Hughes ( But please please not Bruce or Roder )

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Look at the teams in the top 6 this year they have all put consistant runs together but we havent new manager in be4 burnley

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Yeah right,Brightons in freefall more than we are,need to remember though,that all the managers out of work are unemplayed because theyve failed in their last post.

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No chance before Burnley unless Kenneth has already got someone lined up.

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31 Dec 2011 16:00:58
how about looking at other factors besides one guy, how about the fact Bates is more bothered about his hotels, museums and funding the rest of his family rather than spend it on a weak squad, how about our best players are injured, all you lot who slagged Howson off, weve not won a game since he got injured! and the performances have been dire, dont just look at Grayson as the reason why this run of form is shocking, were not exactly in free-fall are we, stop over emphasising

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'not exactly in freefall' good lord man you are deluded - look at the points and the table at 5pm - are you Ian Snodin by any chance ? - if you are, good luck its over !

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Grayson played Howson out of postion most of the season
With Brown as anchor,Howson went forward
As hes not a defensive midfielder

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Are you Stevie wonder.we are in free fall,wake up

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Lost 3 on the bounce, now 10th. Shocking tactics, team selection,team performances,individual player performances(all signed or loaned in by Grayson.)and not a clue how to turn things round.. Sure feels like freefall to me.

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Interesting to see all those calling for Varynen and Nunez to play have gone quiet...

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Weve seen bigger free-falls lets be honest, from Champions League Semi-Final to League 1, THATS a free-fall, not a few places down a very tight championship table!

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31 Dec 2011 15:53:16
It's simple if there is no signings tom he will be sacked, because bates will not let him sign anyone if he's gonna sack him,but simon says he expects to bring someone in before monday,so simple if he signs he stays if he doesn't its because bates has blocked it and is gonna sack him.

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Not true - a GOOD signing or loan would still arrive if its been planned - BUT for a new manager to manage - bates and co do the signings anyway !

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31 Dec 2011 15:51:03
Sure like all passionate Leeds fans we all love our club and I'm sick every christmas feeling s**t!!! I have supported Larry but I think its time for a change. 50% of our squad are totally crap, not sure who is the answer but lets hope its a better new year.. and as always we should ALL march on together!!

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31 Dec 2011 15:50:11
I've sat on the fence for long enough, Grayson needs to go now. I wish it could have worked but I've been to the past four games and I haven't seen Leeds play that bad for a long long time.

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31 Dec 2011 15:49:22
grayson has to go and bates needs to change his transfer policy, you cant win promotion with loan players, we had only 2 players on the field today that comanded a transfer fee, players are usualy only loaned out because they are under performing for there parent club.... lets start buying players that want to improve and want to play for our great club

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31 Dec 2011 15:45:01
The only decent games we have really played this have been Forest away and Millwall at home and those performances where inspired by the passing of Gary Speed,That aside we have been average to say the least,we have been embarrassed by a few teams, can't defend, pass, and now the goals are drying up.3 defeats on the bounce no confidence, and having listened to Graysons post match summary he can't put his finger on what is going wrong..he says that he hopes to bring in some fresh faces for the Burnley game. I think that will just be papering over the cracks, only a fresh managerial team will sort this mess out.

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Leeds best performance for me was at west ham . Played with flair and passion Clayton outplaying Scot Parker! So what the hell has gone wrong? Sort it out Simon or do the decent thing and go if you can't manage your players.

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31 Dec 2011 15:34:13
Lets hope Grayson calls it a day......good luck to him hes a good manager and would do well at a smaller club.... lets hope hes not allowed to buy/loan players as this is only going to make matters worse.
i agree with the guys comments in a previous post saying Gary Mcalister got sacked for less.
and all you BATES HATERS just remember he saved us from total disaster..
lets get a new manager in asap and let him re build the team as he sees fit.
Gordrn Stachan/ Alan Curbishley would be my choice to take us forward.any thoughts?

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Most of right but dont think stacken. he has done nothing in english football in management

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I called that too, Curbishley or Strachan would be realistic, I'd prefer Curbishley, we all saw what he did with Charlton on a shoe string budget. Gus Poyet or Lee Clarke could be nice too.

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Not Strachan,hes not done much wherever hes been,prefer someone with no previous links with Leeds,think Bates will already have one lined up.

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We all know Bates saved us, like 6/7 years ago whats he done since, oh yeah build his equivalent of Chelsea Village rather than spending it on an obviously weak squad

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The 'Bates saved us' argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. There is evidence, albeit circumstantial, to suggest Bates manipulated the Administration/Insolvency process after he put the club into Administration himself because an offshore company refused to write off a debt unless the club was sold back to Bates for nothing. The Insolvency Practitioner involved failed in their due diligence and took the easy route out when the source of the foreign loan should have been thoroughly investigated to see whether or not Bates had a connection to the money. Now we'll probably never know the truth.

Either way, we won't get promoted with Bates and I don't think we can fairly judge Grayson when he's had to forage for free & loan players.

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Bates saved us ,it makes my blood boil he's only ever done anything for personal gain full stop .if he was interested in the club he would be moving the club forward not backwards he's 80 years old for god sake,why invest money when he might not be here soon!

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31 Dec 2011 15:31:58
sorry larry time to go some of the players are not to bad but we do have some crap when you have that mix and they are not motivated and confident then that surely is down to you and your staff thanks for where you have got us but we at least want to stay here and not go down we are in relegation form

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31 Dec 2011 15:31:34
We need drastic changes grayson, miller, snodin all need to go

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Correct! Simply not good enough and here's the thing I think most Championship clubs realize they are muppets and we deserve better.

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31 Dec 2011 15:27:33
Bates and grayson out they dont give a s**t about the club need i say more

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Grayson is Leeds through and through - that's just B*LLOCKS.

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No sorry that's silly saying they don't care.the shoestring approach just has not worked.what next?

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31 Dec 2011 15:26:39
I think the best manager around at the moment,who works on a shoe-string budget is Tony Mowbray
Cant see him leaving Boro

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Think you'll find Boro's starting 11 costs more than 350k each week - that was the cost of our starting 11 today.

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31 Dec 2011 15:26:26
We are never getting back to where we belong with bates and larry at the club not a chance in hell they both chat s**t on a regular basis

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31 Dec 2011 15:15:41
grayson should quit in sheme

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31 Dec 2011 15:04:06
People who tell us people that want Simon Grayson out to stop living in the past. Well I tell you to stop living in the past, we have had an appalling run of form and our team doesn't play for Grayson. Grayson's achievements are in the pasted and currently he has lost the plot. McAllister got sacked for less! At least he only conceded from set pieces.

GRAYSON OUT

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Total cost of the Leeds United team vs Barnsley - 350k - McCormack 250k, Lonergan 100k. Every other player is a free transfer or a loan.

You cannot build a team to challenge for the Premiership from free transfers and loans, no matter who the manager is.

Grayson is not the problem and changing the manager will solve nothing.

BATES OUT.

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Gary mac was a good talent spotter however he lost 5 in a row in a lower league. It's easy to say Grayson out but you need realistic names to replace and be diplomatic about KB and to genuinely care a out Leeds. In recent years we have had appalling management appointments wise and poyet together were ok but the rest all lacked. Grayson is ok but he needs new coaches. When our billionaire saviour comes we can then start dreaming of the big names

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I would say there are plenty of realistic names to replace him if he were to get sacked or walk, which in my opinion is about time he did now.

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31 Dec 2011 15:02:23
Completely blown it again today southampton lost last night and so did west ham today aswell but we never take advantage of it what so ever

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31 Dec 2011 14:58:13
Grayson out, Bates out everyone out. What an absolute shower.
Why persist with Paddy its obvious he's not been the same since his injury. Gets Mccarthy on loan again, then does not play him!

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31 Dec 2011 14:56:51
What aload of garbage not one player performed once again

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31 Dec 2011 14:56:36
Though there will be those who slag me for saying this however, GRAYSON OUT.
The past 6 weeks has seen a decline in form (which was hardly scintillating anyway) to what is now abject at best.
Shambolic defending, no creativity or bite in midfiled and not a clue up front.
A team in total disaray and if KB does not act now then this season will be a write off.
White and Howson have still not signed contracts, which only means one thing. They are not hanging around and I cant blame them.
Though KB is freezing season ticket prices for nest year, I will be voting with my feet unless SG is sacked and a decent replacement is bought in and money is spent.
Rant over.

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How about Bates acting now and giving Grayson some funds instead of piling pressure on him! its because of Bates we loost players like Beckford, Kilkenny, Johnson etc. hes the one destroying our club!

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31 Dec 2011 14:54:47
well another carp display but im all for a new change now sick and tired of backin you up simon but some of the teams that are put out are taboo but the team has to take some of the flack cos they are the boys that have to do the job at the end of the day but simon if you love leeds as much as i do then do yourself a favour and us fans and step down mate youv'e taken the team as far as possible by the way ken bates should piss off as well need new investors or we can rest assured we'll be play championship footie for the next few seasons without a shadow of a doubt such a sad sad time to be a leeds fan right now im embarressed and i feel for the rest of us fans too!

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31 Dec 2011 14:53:02
Wow we have scored a goal thought it was never going to come

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31 Dec 2011 14:52:20
Grayson surely has to be sacked now I for one have had enough of his outrageous team picks and silly tactics that ultimately cost us the points we need to be backto where we belong.

Good replacements would include Billy Davies, Curbishly or Zola. What do you think?

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Don't care as long as its someone else, they can't be worse (Wise, Barnes and Blackwell exception)

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31 Dec 2011 14:52:09
Cant wait for grayson interview after game wonder what excuses he will make again were gonna sign aload of s**te like usual no ambition from boardroom, management,players

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31 Dec 2011 14:51:07
Sorry to say it but after this result, beaten by Barnsley, it's time larry did the honourable thing and stepped down. The players ness to take there share of blame also, but they are SG's players. Good luck larry in the future you did us proud not its time for someone to take us forward.

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31 Dec 2011 14:50:00
I have stuck by grayson! But now I feel it times for a change! What an embarrassment! 4-0 to a Barnsley side who have not won in 3 and conceded 9 in that time.

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31 Dec 2011 14:49:49
4-0 do us a favour Grayson and step down or Bates sack him. We are now a JOKE

Putting up prices Bates?? NO CHANCE you'll be lucky to get half the season tickets renewed.

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31 Dec 2011 14:48:07
We was lucky that we only got beat 4.0 it really could of been any score thats the worse thing

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31 Dec 2011 14:45:52
If this carrys on our it is doing we will be back in league one now is the time for a change anyone but grayson cant take much more of this im sure i speek for the majority of leeds fans but you get a few idiots that rave about him been such a great manager all the time on this site there as stupid as what he is in my opinion

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31 Dec 2011 14:41:57
Steve Kean for manager anyone..?
If Blackburn don't want him surely better than Grayson

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My dad would be better than Grayson and he said he'd do it for £500 a week
(There you go Bates)

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I just hope our next manager doesn't keep that filthy traitor O'Brien on the books. Can't help thinking his disgusting behaviour had something to do with the disappearing team-spirit. It would be dreadful to keep the player who helped cause the manager's demise. Anyway; he's s**te and past it!

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Love how Simon says we want players with the right character and then gets a 'Real' character like O'Brien (I agree he's not right for us)

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Kean? are you smoking the good stuff?

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31 Dec 2011 14:41:07
finally i hope you all relise how bad grayson is? i have said it all season and have been told to back grayson and the team,well now we must sort it out before we go into free fall and FAST

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31 Dec 2011 14:38:28
4-0 what an absolute shambles and embarrassment we are, Grayson has totally lost the plot, he has to go,today's result should convince all that we need a new management team.

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Told all you guys this. In attempting to cure our home form, he's tinkered with the system away so now we are bad home and away. Miller, Snodin and Grayson are not up to the task of taking LUFC into the Premiership. They must be sacked immediately and make way for a more intelligent management team. Zola or Di Matteo suits me fine. So does Sheridan.

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31 Dec 2011 14:38:10
Whats the difference between Thomas Brolin and Michael Brown?

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About 3 stone.

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Brown was free!!

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One is a swede the other a turnip.

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31 Dec 2011 14:38:00
sack grayson now ive been a grayson supporter but hes just not good enough every season hes been with us hes had gd start but we always go s**t in second half of season i know he got us promoted but he struggled with that and last year we should av been in playoff and this year if he does it again i can see us been in bottom half sack him now and bring in a qaulity manager and what an embarrasment 4 nil down at barnsley players dont deserve to be payed

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31 Dec 2011 14:33:45
4-0 yes 4-0 what a joke
GRAYSON OUT !!

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Scum have lost to Blackburn - also lost by 6 to Man City - do you think their fans will shouting Fergie Out? We're not getting anyone better than Grayson with our budget.

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Had a ticket and decided not to go thank god..was a grayson supporter but enough is enough!!!!!!!

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31 Dec 2011 14:33:29
Three nil! We're getting humped today and Grayson gone by the arsenal game. Fed up reading be positive, support your team, bates saved us. Bates has feathered his nest already and got more than his money back and we're rubbish. I can only think of Clayton as looking half decent this season, snodds took ten games to get going and Ross just got lucky to be honest, otherwise ver, very, poor.....

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31 Dec 2011 14:33:22
Now is the time for larry and his joke of a back room staff to go or and where now 4.0 down what a disgrace

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31 Dec 2011 14:30:36
Grayson you have to go now.I stuck up for you on here many times but we need to change before it's too late.fresh ideas are needed cos let's face it you won't be allowed to get 4 top class players we need to keep in contention.Billy Davies for me or if kb dare spend what about mark Hughes.shrew Leeds

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31 Dec 2011 14:30:22
We havent even touched the ball in the second half everytime barnsley get the ball they look like scoring

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31 Dec 2011 14:29:58
At 3-0 down can anyone who has been defending Grayson over the last month, please tell us now why he should continue as manager.

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Because no one of any stature will come to the club while Bates is running it and no one will do any better with the p*ss poor squad we have and no money to spend. A change of manager would just be papering over the cracks.

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So we just carry on as we are do we. WAKE UP.we've just been thumped by BARNSLEY . Lost 3 on the bounce, one win in 5 , sliding down the table, just been bood of again,I could go on but it's not printable on here.

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31 Dec 2011 14:29:49
PLEASE please sack Grayson he is clueless Today has to be a new start for leeds get rid of 60% of the so called squad and start a fresh were terrible, 3-0 down to a team who let 9 in 3 games and lose all 3 yet thrash the mighty whites. Grayson out then Bates may give us funds....

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31 Dec 2011 14:29:42
3-0 down to Barnsley, it's quite obvious that the players no longer want to play for their manager. Time for change is now so the entire season isn't lost!

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31 Dec 2011 14:28:55
Grayson has to go he is such a muppet

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31 Dec 2011 14:26:26
Oh dear oh dear oh dear, Larrys last game in charge, absolute disgrace, we need a manager who knows how to manange

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Won't make any difference with our current squad - Bates out would be a better starting point - but that's not happening so you might as well get uses to the idea that we're not going up for a good few years yet.

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31 Dec 2011 14:26:26
Wonder where the grayson lovers are now these results have been coming for weeks now can u finally see he isnt up to managing a club like leeds sooner you no that the better

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Four nil.. I think he's oot...

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31 Dec 2011 14:26:25
3-0 So far this is beyond a joke, what the hell is going on?

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Make it 4.0

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The players have no passion or intrest in playing Leeds, change the lot. Barnsley have beaten us easily home and away.

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Get him out 4-0 now, this is a joke.

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31 Dec 2011 14:25:35
dole office for grayson on tuesday morning lol

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31 Dec 2011 14:24:30
3-0.... JOKE

GRAYSON... OUT OUT OUT!

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31 Dec 2011 14:23:58
please please please Grayson bow out now with the little pride you have left or you will be judged on these performances

Not even the rose tinted glasses brigade can save you

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31 Dec 2011 14:23:29
3.0 down

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31 Dec 2011 14:23:07
Grayson is so clueless he drops clayton for varyrynen who is unproven, continues to play the slowest player in the squad in kisnorbo,always make excuses ever week time to go larry you are a joke

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31 Dec 2011 14:23:03
3-0 GRAYSON OUT NOW !!!!

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31 Dec 2011 14:22:28
Barnsley let in 9 goals and loose last 3 games Leeds top away scorers
SO WHY THE HELL are we loosing again 2-0 is a disgrace GRAYSON OUT !! Gj

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31 Dec 2011 14:17:42
2.0 down again

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31 Dec 2011 14:17:01
Not one of are players deserve to wear the shirt no passion no drive no desire no f*** all from any of them

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31 Dec 2011 14:14:57
2-0 Barnsley!! What a pile of s***e

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31 Dec 2011 14:13:21
RIP Leeds United - Goodbye Larry

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31 Dec 2011 14:09:19
If luccccccciiiiiiaaaaaaannoooo, does sign for our rivals Middlesbrough , would it be worth going for billy sharp? I believe his buy out clause is 1.8 million

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Sharp's release clause is £3m and Donny have already had offers of £3.5m and £3m. Think we can safely assume that Sharp will not be coming to Leeds. On his current form Boro are welcome to Becchio though.

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And why would anyone want to sign for us!grayson out now we are a joke ffs

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His buy out is 3 million i think

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I have stuck by Grayson but its time for a change, we are not even scoring goals anymore and the defence is as bad as ever. We have one player in form and he could be out for a month.

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31 Dec 2011 14:05:37
We need to buy a full squad in january and thats no joke

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31 Dec 2011 14:04:47
Grayson to get sacked next week

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Lets hope so

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2-0 Down.. Sack him today,three defeats on the bounce speaks for itself.

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31 Dec 2011 14:03:14
Are whole starting 11 needs dropping

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31 Dec 2011 14:02:32
Yet another game where going to lose now is time for a change before its to late for us to even get in the play offs

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We are never making the playoffs we'll be lucky to finish mid table

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31 Dec 2011 14:00:34
God i hope we dont actually go through with signing pugh whats his role on the pitch can anybody tell me

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31 Dec 2011 13:55:24
Bates out f*** off back to monaco and stay there we dont want you at our club

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Why blame bates its the tosser in charge he hasnt a clue and the players dont play for him grayson out

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31 Dec 2011 13:52:13
Now is definately the time for bates to sell up he's not one bit bothered about getting promoted he is making enough money as it is charging fans a arm and a leg to come watch a team full of free transfers no wonder attendances are going down every game and that will continue to happen until he goes

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31 Dec 2011 13:48:27
I think this will be Graysons last game if we lose
Bates get a good manager in ASAP and give him plenty of cash in January
And sack our useless coaches

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Expect Robert Di Matteo to be installed in the next couple of days,complete with Transfer funds,done deal.

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Done deal - bo**ocks. Look at the accounts - there is no money. Why would Di Matteo leave a cushy job for a poisoned chalice like Leeds? No manager on this planet will get Leeds up without money for the squad and we are not going to get a better manager than Grayson unless there is money for them to invest.

I expect Grayson to go soon too, but it won't change anything. We have a worse squad than we did two years ago and that's Bates's fault. Grayson's seen his best players sold and the money vanish. Our biggest expenditure in the accounts is 'other miscellaneous expenses' when it should be players...

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Very eloquently put,Bates has seen this coming so why should he give Grayson money to fetch more plonkers in,and Di Matteo will come because of ambition,Bates will give him money to spend,and choose what people say,Leeds is still a big club,so watch this space.

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31 Dec 2011 13:47:25
Get out of our club you chelsea b**tard get out of our club?

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31 Dec 2011 13:46:16
Leeds never getting out of championship until bates pulls his finger out of his arse and spends this money that he has always promises will happen in every window

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Is Grayson the man to spend it though.

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Yes we will when we go down this year

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31 Dec 2011 13:41:51
We have the worst defence in this league by far no contest at all what so ever odea kisnorbo connolly bromby are so clumpsy

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And you wonder what Simon Grayson sees been a defender himself

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31 Dec 2011 13:38:53
How come we only get all the s**t refs

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And managers

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31 Dec 2011 13:36:18
Absolute disgrace once again this is going to be are 3 defeat in a row you mark my word

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Grayson out even if we win clueless

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31 Dec 2011 13:34:12
Paddy kisnorbo is such a poor player and should never wear the white shirt again

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I have said this for so long,but people have told me to stop having a go...now u better belive me! grayson has got to go before its too late

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31 Dec 2011 13:32:57
Why cant grayson see what us fans can see and finally drop paddy kisnorbo permanently

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Because he picks his favourite players however bad they play,always has done,time Bates picked another manager.

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31 Dec 2011 13:24:10
What a joke again yet another derby match against barnsley that where 2nd best in once again no passion to wear the shirt

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31 Dec 2011 13:21:33
1.0 barnsley what a joke how much more do us fans after take of this

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31 Dec 2011 13:06:14
Grayson says has funds available to spend and has since summer transfer window. However you can understand why bates would be a little weary of Grayson spending as his previous transfers/loans have been questionable. All you have to look at is we had McCartney on loan twice.

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31 Dec 2011 12:46:25
Finally larry has seen sense and dropped clayton to give him a rest who has been of the boil over the last month or so also good to see nunez get a start

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31 Dec 2011 12:46:21
clayton on bench!!

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31 Dec 2011 12:18:08
LUFC team today:
Lonergan, Connolly, O'Dea, Paddy, White, Nunez, Varyrnen, Brown, Pugh, Keogh, McCormack.

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31 Dec 2011 11:41:01
Brown is on 10k. He stated that himself earlier in the season.

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31 Dec 2011 10:41:19
Post your score predictions for today lads..!

Barnsley 1 Leeds 2

Ross - Clayton

That's my punt

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1-0 Leeds beccio 87 min I

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Barnsley 2 -0

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2-2 Leeds to go behind early but score a late equaliser! becchio and Ross to get back to scoring ways

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2-1 to barnsley
butterfield 2 Ross 1
because we never win at Oakwell

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31 Dec 2011 01:42:34
everyone should support the players manager and owner because if we didnt have them a few years ago where would be now because bates helped when no one else would Plus it's now or never for promotion.

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Why is it now or never? The fair play rules come in over the next year or two and that will make it much easier for us. We're just about the only team in the league with a low enough wage bill for the new rules to be painless.

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Agree.... sick of the negativatiy on this site, nobody says anything positive at all, if the players and the management read this site god help us, not exactley bottom of the conference are we,come on leeds fans get behind the team and stop bitching about them and the management, im thinking positive for 2012, COME ON LEEDS!!

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Thats because nothing positive is coming out of ER, the team are rubbish week in week out, the manager has no idea - time for a massive clear out and to start again

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If the manager is clueless can you please explain how it is, in 6 years of management, he's already had two promotions and reached the play offs, finished 7th last year (our best position since 2005) despite having absolutely no money to invest in the team.

Grayson's still got a lot to learn but he's not clueless and he's done pretty well considering how much money has been bled from the team by selling our best players, or worse still letting them go for free, and not re-investing the money.

Bates is rumoured to have turned down offers of £25 million and he has publicly valued the club at £90m - more than Liverpool, which is laughable. I think the problem lies there rather than with the manager.

Bates needs to get real on the club's position and valuation, along with a lot of the so-called fans on here. We're at least 3 years or a new owner away from the Premiership.

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31 Dec 2011 00:17:13
St Ledger transfer listed by Foxes and they also want to bin off Beckford - SIGN EM UP!

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Why is that? vastly overpaid for their talent perhaps?

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Just like Alan Smith then!

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