Leeds Banter Archive May 31 2014

31 May 2014 22:54:59
I've been right behind Massimo from the start and don't think he has put a foot wrong so far hut this Hockawho coach from some Forrest. That's got to be madness. I can only hope this is a massive piss take but someone has spend big at the bookies to make him favourite. To bring an unheard of right to favourite suggests several large bets so someone knows something. This cannot be a good move.

01 Jun 2014 20:50:18
Remember MC wants somebody purely to COACH the first team, NOT a manager.

31 May 2014 20:41:29
Hi Axeman
He got Watford the youth through to help get them promoted, and has a history of thinking long-term. Yes, I'd rather have a Zola or Poyet, but just because he isn't a household name might not be a bad thing.

01 Jun 2014 20:49:57
Hi Simon. I know all that - I have access to Wpedia too :-).

My concern is that he's 55 and has never worked in an ER type environment. Working with kids is very different, as is working in the Skrill.

It's a high pressure environment at ER and the job is especially difficult right now with all the recent trauma.

I personally find it difficult to believe that a man who has never had the top job in a professional league team with adults and who failed with an adult team in the Skrill is better suited to the job than McDermott, who won this league in a more stable environment.

If he's a great coach then it might work with Cellino man managing the players but as I said on a different thread, all of this is alien to the British psyche. I'm not anti-change but this is very high risk.

On the plus side, at least we know who owns the club now, rather than it being a complex web of offshore companies. Cellino seems like a straight-talking, if slightly unhinged, guy, which is good (the straight-talking bit at least).

Interesting times ahead but we wouldn't be Leeds if that weren't the case.

31 May 2014 19:32:53
Check the new league table out on the o/s guys, we've already improved on last season! Onwards & upwards!

31 May 2014 18:23:46
DAVE HOCKADAY (he doesn't sound too bad):

In 1995 he established the FIRST football academy in the country at Cirencester. The Cirencester Football Academy was created in conjunction with the local Sixth Form College. The Academy team soon built up a nation-wide reputation by winning the National College Championship. Subsequently, his CONCEPT of a football academy has been adopted by most major clubs in England. He was head-hunted for many jobs at league clubs and universities and in 2000 joined Graham Taylor at Watford as their Under 18 coach. As Under 18 coach at Watford, Hockaday helped develop the careers of players such as Paul Robinson, Hameur Bouazza, Tommy Smith, Darren Ward, Ashley Young and Alhassan Bangura. In 2005 he was elevated to first-team coach and helped the Hornets to promotion to the Premier League in 2006 on a TINY budget with half the team HOME GROWN.

Think about it . this man does fit the mould of what Cellino has said he wants to do at LUFC, namely build up the youth, not spend millions, but play attractive football.

Maybe, just maybe, this HOCKADAY might not be all that bad guys.

Simon

How the hell would MC have even known or heard of Hockaday? This would be a bizarre appointment? MOT

31 May 2014 20:17:18
Clutching at straws a bit Simon. What credentials does he have as a coach at a real football club? I think most of us were aiming a little higher.

Just imaging the pulling power we'd have to get the quality players we need to get out of this league if we had Hockaday as coach?

31 May 2014 17:34:20
Gutted if this Hockaday gets the job, I for one would like to see redders or even naylor given a go or maybe even both together at least we know what we would get from those two and that's passion for the shirt

31 May 2014 19:24:29
Redders hasn't got the stomach for it. Naylor no experience. In terms of motivational qualities Russ Wilcox is worth a mention.

I agree about redders but was just saying instead of this nobody they are saying will get the job think was a hopeful rather than a realistic post haha

31 May 2014 16:16:43
In less than 5 years we will be a great club already in the Prem with a new west stand.
Capacity will be 50,000 and please god we will fill it some days.
Apart from the odd crank let's all give Massimo a chance as without him we were screwed.
Jeff

31 May 2014 13:56:58
good luck to BmcD. He had a tough job to do, may not have been the right time for him at Leeds.Behind the scenes must have been chaos but he stuck to his job

31 May 2014 13:25:53
Can I just say I never asked for an argument with anyone.
All I want is to bring back the radio station for the fans.
If it happens we will have live commentary on all matches and Eddie is my choice of presenter but we haven't spoken yet although he knows me.
Gary Cooper from LUST is helping me and a big thank you to him.
I've been trusted with a lot of info and don't want people to argue with me as it doesn't help our club.
I'm sorry I've been cryptic in the past but it's because I'm not allowed to tell.
I want to say how great some of you posters are as you pick up stuff you shouldn't know.
I would love to tell you more but I can't.
MOT Leeds United
Jeff

JEFF
You built your own reputation on this forum so now you have to live with it, noone wants to argue with you mate but!!
You told everyone our club was doomed for admin (everyone on this site had skid marks like never before) and the day after MC bought LUFC ( the same MC YOU introduced to the club in your words) how wrong could you be for someone in the know with MC himself?
Youve posted you was having 3 meetings with MC and did anyone want you to ask MC any questions (we never got ONE reply from you how the meetings went)
EVENTUALLY you will get something right its sods law but it will NEVER make up for all the wrongs in my opinion.
I don't want to argue with you Jeff but if the shoes were on your feet how would you feel?

If that's true Jeff and you're not a fantasist, the grown up thing to do would be to say nothing at all about stuff you can't disclose. Cryptic clues just wind people up.

In my line of work I come across a lot of sensitive data about individuals from neighbours to very well-known people. I don't even discuss that data with my wife.

It's called being professional.

Could do with a new pair right now Andy

Andy a lot of my replies don't get posted so please don't have a go at me .
Jeff

Survivor this post of yours earns my respect. Good luck to you and our club we love Leeds United.

Jeff
I think Axeman summed it up well.
I know a first team player at ER things he's told me about BMD I'd love to tell you, it would make 99% of people on here look at him in a different light but I'd NEVER repeat it online. (It's called trust)
As for your posts not getting through I think we've ALL had comments that haven't made the forum.
EDs do it for one reason or another don't take it personal they do a GREAT job.

(Think before you print)

01 Jun 2014 09:12:23
Ok I agree with that but when did you have a post removed by the Ed after it was passed by another Ed.
Surely it deserves some kind of explanation.
Jeff

{Ed003's Note - jeff - posts are judged on their own merits at the time unfortunately some (yours in particular) end up getting lots of replies that need deleting and whichever ed is around has a decision to make whether the thread is worth the hassle - it might have helped if you hadn't talked in riddles - we all aim to be fair to all posters.}

Come on Andy. tell us some gossip

31 May 2014 13:20:53
Alright guys and Philippa, I have some classified information for you here straight from my good friend Mr Cellino (or Mass as I know him). Next season Leeds United will be playing in a predominantly white kit. The new manager will be someone you haven't heard of, that is of course unless you have. His name will begin with B or one of 25 other letters of the alphabet. I can't tell you his name yet, but I have met him when I was getting trolleyed with Mass and I can say he is a very nice chap. He has two eyes, arms and legs. On the pitch, Mass's vision of Leeds is quite clear. He is targeting 46 league games next season and is planning to play at least half of these at Elland Road. He has targeted a mixture of wins, draws and losses to guarantee a top 24 finish. The team will be made up of youth, experience and maybe some players in their 20's. Most of the games will kick-off at 3pm but some will kick off at noon which is no good for people meeting outside McDonalds with tickets, so please check first!
Anything else you need to know lads n lasses, ask Mick, the Savior. God bless

MM

Ah there you are Mad Mick. As usual you are right on the money (or you will be once Cellino - or Cello as I know him, has unfrozen the players' wages cheque book).

Sorry forgot to add - Mad Mick - do you think it's not Dave Hockaday at all, it's actually Dave Hockney? Now that would paint a picture (as indeed can he .)

MM
Who could this be based on I wonder lol

Nice link their Philippa. He lives in Yorkshire so no doubt Jeff plays darts with him haha

Always entertaining Mr. Mick sir.

Haha you will never guess Andy. It seems he's been away for a week but back with a vengeance. I think eds need to add a new page just for Survivor. Maybe call it 'Jeff World' lol

No doubt their relationship is a bit sketchy.

Hope it's not a long drawn out affair

31 May 2014 12:57:02
MC states Carbone was going to be under 21 coach next season and that has not changed. He is not going to be coach this season

31 May 2014 12:08:33
Think leeds should start sniffing around Borja Viguera who has a 1mill euros release clause before Athletic Bilbao step up their interest.
Would be a good replacement for Ross, should he go, which is likely now that Brian has gone.

Good luck to Brian for the future, shame it didn't work out.

31 May 2014 11:26:36
I hope the next person in charge is Roberto di matteo I really think he is a great manager and coach

31 May 2014 10:21:58
Morning guys morning eds13 /03 et al
Just a quick? If the separation of bmc and mc from his LEEDS contract was mutual as stated is that a way of not having to pay a large compo and maybe get a smaller hand shake does anyone know?? And are there any real rumours who maybe waiting in the wings for job, I personally think beni carbine is not man enough for LEEDS as of this time,! Maybe rob di Matteo or even a British coach Steve Clarke thoughts!!
LEEDS for life
MOT

Steve Clarke as done o.k able to do a job without too much money to spend. but carbine. think he would shoot himself in the foot. MOT

31 May 2014 09:18:21
find it strange that loads of fans complaining that bmcd has left. really nice guy but hopeless tactician and the football was worst I have watched in years. to all those who think its a bad decision. muse over these. kebe, hunt, wendies away, enuf said methinks

31 May 2014 07:53:01
So who will the next coach be? Anyone got any idea? Let the games begin.

Carbone

Well the bookies fav arrived 3 weeks ago!

He won't be english

Cellino wants a coach and the best coach I can think of is sherwood. He would be quality, he's passionate, 59% win record in prem and he would probably jump at the chance if he was given assurances.
That is the only problem with leeds at the moment there are none

Deluded, mate. Why would Sherwood 'jump at the chance' to come to Leeds when he's managed a top premiership team with a very good win rate? He'll have a lot better offers than a mid-table second division club in crisis where he'll have no say in transfers and have to put up with all sorts of interference. Get real.

Deluded is right but in the sense Sherwood has won nothing, done nothing as a manager and the guy above says MC wants the best lol

If ANY of us inherited over £100 mill worth of players I'm sure we'd win over 50% of our games.

Agree again Andy. Sherwood's achieved nothing really but he did OK at Spurs where there rumours of real dressing problem. I think he did enough to be able to choose his next job carefully and he'll want more power than he'd get under MC.

31 May 2014 07:04:25
Unlucky B Mcd thanks for ya effort let's see what's next mot.

31 May 2014 03:50:47
Good call on the mc d. Bermondsey white
Smart man!

God things happen quick at LUFC all of a sudden. Ty Bmc you handled yourself with dignity throughout however nice people are good loosers and show me a good looser and I will show you a looser.

Can all the people going on about MC not having the cash to do what he wants shut the hell up. Revolution starts Monday let's see who else needs a job Tuesday. It's going to be a wild summer.

Spain
At Calgari MC bought young players for 700k and sold them on for €8-€9 mill.
I can't see him changing with his buying attitude but once developed might keep the €8-€9 mill players.

Andy that's what I am expecting and it is what MC has stated he finds hidden gems trains them and with LUFC he can keep them. I don't expect him to be putting xx millions into us but a couple of top players bringing the new talent through would in my book be a solid foundation to work with

Spain
Yeh I know where your coming from but finding n training players takes time I hope the fans are patient ;)

31 May 2014 01:24:51
Vialli would be a good choice as coach

30 May 2014 23:57:08
Bye bye Brian. 6-0, you should have gone after this result. I've never been more embarrassed. Not even when I wore my " David Harvey is safer than the pill" badge at college, after a 7-0 defeat at Arsenal and got laughed out of the place. I was still pro ud to be Leeds. But after telling the wendies, I would only have CW from their team and still would. We got hammered by a team of nobodies. Arsenal had Liam Brady in their side. Can you please take Noel Hunt with you.