Leeds Banter Archive September 03 2013

 

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03 Sep 2013 20:01:45
I see the blades have a co owner, a rich prince! {Ed013's Note - The same one that wanted Leeds}

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Must have taken a catastrophic error by GFH to make him choose the blunts over Leeds

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03 Sep 2013 18:57:26
iv been disappointed with this window as we haven't given brian the backing he's needed i.e wingers but looking at the bigger picture all our ST, marketing and sponsorship etc was already used by bates so GFH have had nothing to work with, the players brought in under the previous regime where terrible but there contracts will be up come end of the season, we have kept ross and byram sooooooo if we maintain a mid table/top 10 for the rest of the season it will be a success in my eyes, GFH will then back BMD with the incoming money for next season and then we will be a major force, although bates has gone he's left a lot of dross behind which will have cleared up by next summer, I think BMD knows this and that's what he is looking at, dawson and mowatt might have some part in this season but could come through next, your browns and pughs will have gone off the wage bill and we can look at building a capable squad.

deakko7

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03 Sep 2013 18:45:14
As a life long Leeds Fan 40+ years - I for one would love to see us bringing in some additions to the squad - But just take a step back and take a look - we have a very good manager in BMD who in my opinion has strengthened the team not just by those he has brought in but the motivation he has given to the squad that existed, whilst GFH are no Abramovich they more importantly are no Ridsdale spending beyond our means, but steady and managed investment (it will come, when we have it) - We have a great accadamy and have kept our key players this year, easy to forget that in the last few years our jewels have been sold and replaced by rubbish that can't even keep the bench warm, can't be said of those BMD has brought in - lost 1 game to QPR who should in theory walk this league with their financial clout - I don't think by any means that we are there yet, but progress is being made and think that patience will see eventual rewards - finally if GFH plan to sell us off and make a quick buck of two that will mean that we are a viable proposition which means we will have progressed to some extent - keep the faith and FFS get behind the boys - leeds and proud to be

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Absolutely agree with this post.
No way do we want to go back to Ridsdales spend, what we haven't got, nearly closed the club completely.
Or Bates way of selling of our best players, so he could build hotels.
I like you believe BMD and GFH are making steady progress. There is a long way to go. Smith, Poleon, both have potential, in case no one noticed Hunt, Varney work hard off the ball closing people down. We all agree we need some width, but all us of would have taken one defeat in seven at the start of the season. Keep the faith and MOT, the only way forward.
At least we are looking like a team that can compete, I don't think we will get promoted this year, but a run at the play offs will be good progress and seeing the back of Warnocks dross will be great.

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Spot on mate. Patience is a virtue.

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03 Sep 2013 15:14:06
People go on about signing McCormack so everything will be ok, are you not a bit worried where the other goals will come from to keep us in with a chance, because I am, ask yourself smith no, pole on no, hunt no, Varney no, so answers please because I'm worried.

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The answer is mate - your spot on . If we don't get ie billy sharp on loan we will all very soon become very worried . Mot.

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Think it's the creative side of play I worry about. No set up equals less goals.

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Yes you are both spot on. I live in your world as well. The plan is that we spend millions of someone else's money (that Leeds don't have). We then keep our fingers crossed and hope that we get promoted and if we don't, well, we'll just go somewhere else.
Great plan!
Dale Dieterpars

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03 Sep 2013 14:53:09
with loan market opening next week and I know people don't like signing previous players but I would love becchio to come back just till end of season because he's a proven goalscorer at this leven and you know he's going to score plenty of goals and then a winger or 2 and I think we would be better. I think we do need another striker because I can't see where goals will come from and I do like varney and smith but I can't see any of them getting to 20 plus and sure he would rather come back to us and people might say he thought he could do better than leeds but end of day he had a family to support and while he was at leeds he gave everything.

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03 Sep 2013 13:29:16
Im sure some would rather we went for a boom or bust approach as we did under Ridsdale, but personally I am very happy with the steady and responsible approach being taken by GFH.

The club has lots of financial gaps to fill, and with the FFP rules just around the corner, we will be much better equipped to compete in the long run rather than a big gamble short term.

Expect to see lots of dead wood leave when their deals are up at the end of the season.

This year is all about steady improvement and bringing on the exciting young players we have

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Exactly!

There are things done by the previous regime at this club that still are having a serious impact and things that BMD and GFH can do little about in the short term - be patient our fellow fans this is a transition season and because of BMD a slim chance of some success - if all we do this season is banish what has happened in the last 8 years I for one will be happy and then go on from there - Great post

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03 Sep 2013 14:28:27
Momo Sissoko released by PSG. Available on a free.
Don't imagine there's a snowball's chance he'd want to compete in the Championship but, EHD might be able to convince him, what with them being team mates at Liverpool.
Stranger things have happened.
CityWhite {Ed001's Note - he is very close to a move to Reading, or was anyway, last I heard, he just wants to play football.}

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Yeah he would be a good signing. His wages could be quite high though. He is quite versatile as he can play in the centre and on the right wing. As he is very fast and powerful

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03 Sep 2013 11:55:06
At the moment Poloen is just an eager beaver. He runs around quite a bit but to no great effect. Varney isn't great but he is much better at the moment than Poleon. Hunt is also not that good but when Varney and Hunt were replaced by Smith and the young lad on Saturday things got worse not better. I hope BMD has a plan to bring in loan player(s) with a view to buy in January otherwise its championship for another year which might, on reflection, have been the plan all along ie gradual and financially safe development.

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Smith with hunt and varney partnering poleon, as regular partnerships would work better and solve that last performance, but the gaffer has to try stuff they are young and will click in time be positive, i'm flying at the moment love my leeds this squad are bringing a bit of pride back to the shirt, hehe even varney.
snoopy
MOT

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The only time we started to threaten on saturday once Varney went off was when Diouf came on. He needs to be playing for longer rather than a cameo 5 minute appearance. Poleon will come good in time to come but once he and Smith came on the pitch Saturday we went backwards. Varney, McCormack and Diouf together would create chances and give us a far better chance of winning games.(in my opinion)!

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Poleon simply not good enough and never will be i'm afraid. Its takes more than pace and power. Think about it he hardly set Bury or Sheffield on fire in the lower leagues so what chance the championship? And for those who say he's still learning the game i'm not sure he can be taught what he's missing. awareness, first touch, finishing and football nous in general. let's hope Dawson and Mowatt can step up soon as they have all the things Poleon hasnt. I am not slagging the boy just stating the facts and hope people realize he will not be our goalscoring saviour. McCormack and Varney our best choice at the moment and I can see Ross getting 20 plus goals this season. MOT

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I must say I do agree with about 80% of the above comments, but slatting Dom is a little harsh, we all seem to think we no better than the manager and coach's because we see them playing games, the staff are working wi these lads day in day out so I'm more than sure if they didn't think these lads were upto it they wouldn't be on the pitch. Yes he has a bit to learn like looking up and keeping hold of the ball but he's 19 yrs old and am sure under BMD and Redders he will come good as will the others in time, like one of the post says its a steady building progress. MOT
MJB66

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All be it against worse teams poleon showed in pre season that he can score (he scored a couple of good goals) so maybe not at championship level yet but I think he will get there

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Original poster here. I was not slating the lad but just pointing out he is not there yet and we need something more substantial now or in the very near future. I think he will make it in the longer term.

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03 Sep 2013 11:16:58
Anybody agree that it would be worth McD getting in touch with Spurs, they have so many new signings there bound to have some fringe players wanting out. Could get a decent deal for a decent player on loan.

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03 Sep 2013 13:02:01
yep true I heard bale was surplus to requirements and itching to wear the great white strip, looks like he settled for 2nd best and went Madrid, well we got ross signed up so who cares.
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snoopy

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03 Sep 2013 11:10:46
we sign two players for over a million for the first time in years, and people STILL moan that we didn't get anybody on deadline day!

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Wootton didn't cost a million or anything like it.

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Wootton was not signed for 1 million pounds, at best it will have been closer to £250K

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Jeez. how many times. wooton didn't cost a million. END OF.

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Totally agree mate, we did our business early like all the best run clubs do, we just couldn't get rid of colin's dross that's clogging the wage bill, personally I think gfh should of just payed them off and got rid of the dead wood once and for all.

snoopy

MOT

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03 Sep 2013 13:18:20
spot on mate, we have a team here that seems to be working hard and putting everything into games from what I have seen a big improvement, I don't think we will be far from a top 6 finish, yes other teams have spent millions but that's not everything and could easily land them on their backsides, I quite enjoy been the unerdogs anyway make it a bit more of a thrill! If we all get behind the team I have no doubt we can be up there with the best teams in the championship

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03 Sep 2013 13:27:06
who cares what he cost as long as he's plays well and puts his all in! did'nt snodgrass cost 275000

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How many times.
we are not saying gfh haven't done well with certain things they have done.
but do we want to go up or not bother.if people on here keep posting it will be next season well what are we all bothering going up and spending money for.shall we stay at home.
we are moaning because we still have no creativity, like last season, we don't have e a 20 goal season scorer, like last season, please don't say ross.he won't get anywhere near that in the end.
and we are not asking for millions like a wigan or qpr.
if we got in a couple of players who can make the diff we can go up, then everyone prospers.
so let's seee what you say if for example we get no points at bolton and reading and we create zero like last three league games.
we all want leeds to win, we all want to go up but all these posts been slightly negative are warranted.
i think bmd is great but his hands are tied, he can't get in who he wants, mm deja vu. we are a mid table side with what we have. shrew leeds

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Beckford was non league and gradel was a free agent {Ed013's Note - Gradel cost nearly 400k}

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03 Sep 2013 09:57:29
I think most of us are missing the point of transfer deadline day, I realise we didn't get anyone but more to the point who did we get rid of, we still have colin's failures bleeding the club.

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03 Sep 2013 09:28:13
So the Shane Long to Leeds rumour doesn't look so far fetched anymore does it? I'm not going to claim any insider knowledge but as he is now quite possibly 4th choice at West Brom it make sense for him to go and get some regular football/get his confidence back. Long and Albrighton form Villa would be perfect An outside gamble on Neil Taylor from Swansea, been out injured for a long time (still a week or so away from fully fit) and would benefit form seem game time

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Not a chance that Long will come to Leeds as Hull will sign him on loan. Long is probably on about £40K a week and Hull will be able to cover that wage

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Seeing as the window for premier league teams loaning/signing players has now closed I find it very hard to figure out how Hull will sign Long. While they may return for him in January I think it's a safe bet that both he and West Brom will want him to get as much playing time as possible and where better than under a manager whom got him playing the best football of his career. I highly doubt he is on 40k a week, try about 25-30k and Leeds don't actually have to pay the whole percentage

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03 Sep 2013 13:06:45
how will hull get him on loan unless they are going to wait untill jan?

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Clearly I have my facts wrong regarding the loan window however I still stand by the point that Long will not sign for Leeds. West Brom were willing to let Long go but they still require 4 strikers and he is one of them. If he does go on loan, West Brom will want to cover the wage as much as possible as they are a financially prudent club. Do you really think that a £5m rated striker will not interest Reading, Forest, Bolton, Wigan who can all offer circa £15K-£20K of his wage instead of Leeds who will struggle to pay £10K?

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03 Sep 2013 09:24:25
Boro made two last minute signing on Jacob butterfield and kei kamara. Two quality players, why couldn't we go in for that kamara? He's a winger/striker, fast, powerful, looked good few times he played for Norwich. If we can't compete against little clubs like boro (who I detest) then I give up

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We did compete with Boro and won - Ross prefered to stay with us, didn't he? Duh!

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Competing for a player that's already at our club and happy? I wouldn't call that competing as you can clearly see from my post I mean compete for player not already at our club. So duh? I don't think so

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We have no money so pretty pointless till we do

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I think you'll find that the choice in front of Ross McCormack was to ask to speak to Boro to see what they were offering or pledge his long-term future to us, so yeah, duh, in essence we were competing for him, matey.

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03 Sep 2013 09:15:53
have I been asleep for the last two years, because I had a dream that we got took over and ken was gone.But woke up yesterday and No its the bloody same old transfer day.Well off two bed no point being up this season.

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I am actually very happy with what gfh have done! So you can leave this sight and take your annoying comments with you!

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Same old fickle pessimists, why not actually try being optimistic for a change

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Its not the same transfer window though is it. We didn't sell McCormack or Byram. We spent our first million for something like 7 years.

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Ridiculous same as Bates?

Well Ross is still here WITH A NEW CONTRACT, Byram is here still.

Wootton and Murphy are two good signings in my opinion.

Murphy first 1m+ signing in 8 years.

Dropped ticket prices, introduced half season tickets. the list goes on.

Also the fans still haven't shown them any chance of a return as bar the opening day the crowds have been pretty poor, all the bates boycotters still stay away.

Yet purely because they didn't sign someone on 1 particular day you slag them off.

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I think attendances will pick up as we have been on tv every single game so far. Although that may not be a good excuse that does stop the majority of people coming from outside leeds. The people outside leeds is what makes a big attendance. The 2000-23000 is mostly the supporters from leeds and then half or more of the 10- 15 thousand who turn up is the supporters outside leeds. Coming up to leeds from say kent or Devon would be a big expense so when leeds are on the telly people do take advantage of that. If we continue around the playoffs attendances will be 28000 and over. So far we have the highest average of 26800 second is brighton with 26300 and then the rest is 23000 and lower

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Exactly 4th reply I live in London so it's a 7 hour round drive and costs a lot but I try to go to half the home games but I'm not going to go to the ones that are on TV cause I would rather save my money for one that I can watch from my living room

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03 Sep 2013 08:22:59
I love the positivity from Leeds fans that the loan market remains an opportunity for us to bring in players however is this going to be possible as we still need to remove deadwood to free up wages. If we can't sign players now what is going to change in a weeks time? I am confused about the strategy from GFH as they stated in 1 in 1 out policy however no players seemed to be put on the transfer market. I don't quite know the mechanics but I am sure that if a club put's a player on the transfer list and they are sold the selling club has to renumerate the player. You can't set a policy to get rid of deadwood then do f**k all to make it happen, it just leaves a bad taste with fans.

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Yeah sorry to say we cannot get rid of our fringe players on high wages who are not good enough to get in the side unless we have some injury's or suspensions.
some aren't even making the bench.
The main point here is we need to replace these players with better ones who may not have high wage demands and can be a threat to our squad players for starting places. (VERY HARD TASK TO ACCOMPLISH)

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03 Sep 2013 08:18:37
we missed another trick in that micheal kightley signed for burnley on loan.
hes a very good winger. shrew leeds

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03 Sep 2013 07:18:18
Pace and width was needed when McDermott arrived and its still the same now, I can't see us scoring many goals this season without it, let's hope Byram is ready soon or he has someone in mind in the loan window.

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03 Sep 2013 00:13:13
I know we all want to see permanent signings, but you've got to look at the players that will be available from Premiership clubs, they can only register 25 players!

Perhaps rumours of the likes of Arron Lennon (OK maybe that one, lol) don't seem to sound so daft.

And we didn't sell any of our assets either!

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Yeh. Would have liked to see some go rather than some come in. If we got rid of a few we would be ready willing and able in loan or january market
By the way Assets is a bit optimistic

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02 Sep 2013 23:50:20
Cant believe some people thinh Poleon is our striking saviour. He can't play football! don't care that he runs at defenders with pace because he is very poor. i'd take Varney any day of the week. At least he can play the game! Poleon will end up non league at best!

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Utter rubbish, he will only get better under BMD, many years ahead of him. Where as Varney spends a lot of time just running into people for no reason at all, yes Varney good in the air but its only one in how many that count, Dom will definitely flourish in time he's a young lad learning the game. back em not slag em. MOT as it goes.

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Poleon at the moment is one of our only players who runs at defenders. Defenders hate it when a pacey lad runs at them. YES he can be poor with his end product and sometimes doesn't look up but that can be worked on, he is only young. Look at that goal against Chesterfield good initiative, speed and finish. We need players that are quick and going to run at defenders at scare the life out of them. Maybe we could shove him on the wing?

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