Leeds Banter Archive February 04 2012

04 Feb 2012 22:25:52
why not o'leary he know the crack in the premier league and the players will play for someone who has passion for the club he was a great manager. he took us far and if we had got in to the champion league after we was knocked out we would not have had ken bates as a chairman we would have had some one eles

give it to o'leary

No way,he was useless,disruptive(book)and had about 90m back when that was a lot of money!plus he had the decent youth players !

I agree with the above. O'Leary inherited a lot of the best things of the Wilkinson and Graham regimes (great home-grown talent/shrewd signings/tight defence), and let it go to his head. His habit of playing down expectations by referring to his 'babies' was patronising and embarrassing. When given a free reign with the cash he exemplified the hubris that was running rampant under Ridsdale: you might say he was the main culprit. I don't think he has ever proved himself a top-draw coach under 'normal' circumstances. That was a really great squad, though. Wasn't Bowyer a Wilko signing? Record transfer for a teenager etc.?

04 Feb 2012 19:23:56
Right Leeds fans and all u KB haters new manager first game clean sheet yes I know it was against 9 men in the end but lets get behind the team especially at Elland ROad lets make the place buzz again and make the players want to play here this quiet era that's been round Elland road only encourages the away players and fans come on Leeds promotion is still a realistic possibility MOT

Lets face it, whatever Redfearn does will be wrong I cannot believe the 'official' Leeds Haters clubs actually condemmend Redfearn beofre he even got in charge?

To all the Leeds 'trust' or whatever, you need to realise WE are the club, the team, whatever, and we will be here when Bates has gone, when you have gone, whatever?

WE are the true Leeds, those of us who support, whatever, attend, whatever, put up with the likes of you, and still come back....

Watching you kick the likes of Lorimer, makes me sick, you aren't Leeds and never will be.

Agreed ..... no respect for Lash Lorimer = no respect for the Leeds = no knowledge of our club and family is family - go support a Playstation team

I agree, Lorimer is a legend and I don't think the 'Trust' are helping us on the pitch one bit this season. Taking all that negativity into the ground is not helping, why don't they all f off.

We are all fans just not of bates,we will see what bates's ambition is for the club now,with whom ever we get in for our new manager,mot

Lorimer is an abject excuse for a human being! His articles are obviously heavily biased towards Bates point of view , who being the control freak he is, has to ensure all media platforms carry only his message. He who pays the piper calls the tune. Lorimer was originally a sop to the fans to make us believe we had a voice on the board, when in reality he is a puppet who funds his "lifestyle through jumping as high as Bates orders. His character and professional assassination of Grayson in Friday's YEP was a disgrace and this man should be shunned by all who love Leeds, which includes avoiding that council tip of a pub he destroys himself in. Just because he was a former great servant as a player does not make him a decent person.The YEP have the guts to publish heavily negative feedback from fans against him - will you Ed??

Nice to see ageism still going! to old just tell slur alex (pukes as he sais his name) that old tax dodger harry to name but 2,with age brings wisdom my learned friend and often success !

I read that lorimer article and all I saw was everything that had been said on here all season ie maybe some players weren't happy at not playing, why do we have so many players picking up a wage and not kicking a ball and that Grayson had done well but someone else was needed to take us further. I'm too young to remember Lorimer as a player so have no bias towards him at all, but I think some of the comments in the YEP were disgraceful. Disgusting, abusive, personal attacks on the man. I also think that because of the Bates out campaign and Lorimers association with the board mean that people will disagree with despite as I said above him just echoeing the opinions voiced on this website and many others for months.

04 Feb 2012 18:30:03
Not sure enough changed in the tactics today, still 4-4-2 with Luciano mainly a passenger and they dominated in midfield with 11 men. Same story for the last couple of months. Refreshing honesty from Redfearn though not 'we played a certain system and certain players did certain thing at certain times etc. etc.'

So we win 3-0 away from home and you are still moaning?

Give me strength, you people don't deserve Leeds United........

Give him a chance 4 days and you want to be the best performing team in the league. if
you noticed we played the ball to feet alot more rather than the long ball constantly which gets too predictable ,tactics have changed its not all about the formation

Original poster here. I really wasn't being negative, great result, some real positives too, the Snoddy - Smith partnership looked promising, Delph later on when he got a bit more freedom looked more like the kid we used to watch and enjoy and he came and took the ball off the defence so they didn't have to hoof it. Recently they have only seen players running away from them. My concern with 4-4-2 is that the way we play it with 2 out and out wingers is that it ends up as 4-2-4 and the 2 in the middle have too much on their plate. You must admit we were 2nd best for the first 30 mins and scored against the run of play though. If Redfearn can get their confidence up then things will continue to improve. I was impressed by his post-match interview too. It wasn't a moan just an opinion of what I see as the way forward in the longer term, 3 points is 3 points. MOT

2nd best for 30 mins, then scored first. Best for 60 mins, 4 more goals 2 disallowed. Mac could have/would have scored if not brought down. So it all adds up to a fighting performance. Dont forget that the big teams turn it on late in the game too. The fact we have now had 5 red cards against our opposition is not a weakness on our part. If teams feel they have to foul to beat us fair enough and then they pay the penalty. The 'we was robbed' mentality of managers is endemic to football. The table doesnt show how well/badly we played or how many red cards shown, just points and goals...remember that at the end of the season.

04 Feb 2012 17:00:21
just like to say we are only 6 points off second spot if the players get there beleef back you never no well done lads a clean sheet aswell keep beleiving

04 Feb 2012 16:57:16
Good win for the boys today. Antic has apparently applied for the vacant managers job, He has a great pedigree but I would love to be present at the interview with KB when Antic asks about finance available etc

If he's that good why has he had so many clubs?

WE DON'T NEED OR WANT THIS GUY, aNTIC, WHY ARE YOU [POSTING THIS RUBBISH EVERYWHERE?

iS YOUR NAME ANTIC?

A 63 year old manager who has managed 6 clubs ( some more than once because they wanted him back ) plus the Slovakia national team - Martin O'Neill is 10 years younger and on his 6th club ask Sunderland fans if that's a problem

04 Feb 2012 16:34:10
And Ben Parker's scored...

Big deal, hopefully he won't be playing for us again.

Why slag him off? He's never had a chance at championship level. Been unlucky with injuries, decent player before that I thought.

One of the biggest myths of modern day Leeds United is that Ben Parker was ever any good. Don't get me wrong, I feel for the lad regarding the bad luck he's had with injuries. But he's never been able to defend. League One or Two player at best -

04 Feb 2012 16:31:53
Alan Smith booked...

Thats interesting,not,whats he got to do with us?,we won 3-0,now that is relevant,theres even moaners saying we only beat 9 men,who cares,you can only beat whats in front of you.

Totally agree with first response. Tell you what, why didn't Redfearn ask the ref to send their players back on?!? Nonsense.

Also, who cares what Alan Smith or Ben Parker are doing? I have no interest in MK Dons or Carlisle.

We need to look forward, not backwards.

Original poster here. I don't give a toss about Smith either - I think you both misunderstood the point of my post. I was being facetious. I'm sick of people's obsession with former players on this site as detailed pretty savagely in a post higher up.

I do think it's funny though that, in his first competitive game for ages, he got a yellow which, by all accounts, might have been a red from another ref. Some things never change...

We are true LEEDS fans, we one, away from home, without a manager, and everyone 'stepped up' why not rejoice rather than continually kick the ar$e out or your own team?

Like said,m who cares what MK Dons (my local team) or Carlisle, or anyoe els does?

WE WON 3-0 AWAY FROM HOME?

Have I missed something here - can't see anybody in this thread who's 'kicked the arse' out of anything or anybody.

Some people need to be a bit less angry...

I apologise to the original poster, it wasn't obvious what you meant. I completely share your feelings about the obsession with former players.

Sorry mate!

04 Feb 2012 15:54:30
Do we have to play against 10 men every time just to give us a chance ?

We scored before they were down to 10 men, d

1-0 up before wilson sent off!

9 men might be a bit easier !

Even better playing against 9...

No doubt our 3-0 win away from home against 9 men doesn't count then?

You want to give the points back to Bristol City?

You people disgust me, you are not worthy of claiming to be Leeds supporters, all you want to do is moan, kick and complain....

Spot on mate,we have the best fans in the world on the whole,but alas a small minority of moaners who are never happy choose what we do,they must have sad lives,moan when we lose and moan when we win,bunch of sadoes. {Ed020's Note - 3-0, permanent mangerless, away from home, clean sheet. whats everyone moaning at!!! i don't get it!!! lol. }

The 9 men comment wasn't a moan or complaint - it was a bit of fun. Lighten up.

I'm delighted we won and if the ref does his job right and sends two players off correctly then that's fine by me - McCormack would have scored a second had he not been brought down so we'd have won anyway...

We wasn't playing too well and yes did score against the run of play i suppose but thats the way football goes sometimes ,people saying do we need to be playing against 10 men to win well no we proved that today as if there defender hadn't of put in the challenge and got sent off we would of scored and that would of been 2-0 at half time , then there was the 2nd sending off which was a good ,fast bit of play by Leeds down the right hand side which ended up getting there player in a muddle and caused him to make a rash challenge .maybe the could of come back with 11 men but i doubt it at 2-0 down

Who cares whether it was against 9, 10 or 11 men, i'll take the 3 points and the clean sheet all day long. robbo 77

If you are delighted we won then why not open up and say it, rather than have a sly dig??

FFsake, rejoice and enjoy todays result, it's far more than many hoped for or expected??

It wasn't a sly dig - I was reading the post about 10 men on my phone just as the second sending off happened - I was laughing as I typed it - it was funny at the time - get a grip man! {Ed020's Note - lol should know how sensitive us leeds fans are :P}

04 Feb 2012 15:48:20
Wilson(Bristol) send off

04 Feb 2012 15:34:58
At least on tues we looked a decent side,today we are terrible not got a clue redfearn we need lee clarke asap.

But we scored with our first attack - just as Birmingham did on Tuesday.

Have faith 1.0 Leeds

Obviously that's good but worrying our first attack was 40 mins into game we are better than that

This Lee Clark that we 'need' - is he the guy whose Huddersfield Town are still in League One after three years of his tenure? How long did it take Grayson to get us out of League One? Oh, I remember now - first full season. If he comes I'll be 100% behind him, as I will behind any manager at Leeds, but it looks like a backward step to me.

I hope you now come back and apologise, humble pie for dinner?

You are an person who writes us off before the game is over, and look totally stupid now we have won 3-0 away from home?

Apology? I think not, eh??

04 Feb 2012 15:20:10
Raddy antic wants Leeds job former barca Madrid and Serbia manager it's on Ssn app

Dave Jones now 8-11 at some bookies,his odds have been slashed.

Raddy Antic may want the job, like loads of other 'would be's' and 'has beens' but we don't need him (whoever he is......)

04 Feb 2012 14:52:51
Am i the only one who wants Redfearn to be the boss. at least give him a few weeks. Great guy, and why overlook him, players like him. Give him a chance.

Great reason to give him the job, the players like him !!

I am happy for him to be there.....

04 Feb 2012 14:09:34
Team today - Lonergan, Smith, Lees, O'Dea, Pugh, Snoddy, Delph, Clayton, White, McCormack, Becchio - Rogers on the bench

No - this is the team today. Not an opinion. Some real morons on this site...

04 Feb 2012 12:24:17
Ken Bates is understood to be getting totally fed up with the aggro and hatred directed towards him, and having turned 80 now is seriously considering taking up permanent retirement in his lovely Monaco home. Another winter of trailing across to Leeds from the sunny Med no longer appeals at all. He has been actively looking to sell Leeds United which is finally an attractive proposition, making profits on all aspects of businss, and having succeeded over the years in reducing the considerable debts which he inherited from his predecessors.
Bates is currently in discussion with a consortium of wealthy middle-eastern businessmen who are keen to buy, but only on the basis that they bring in their own preferred coaching staff. Part of the terms of their acquisition is that Bates rids the club of all its present coaching staff - they wanted Bates to do the dirty work rather than themselves so that any consequential anger at Grayson and co's dismissal was directed at him not them ( Bates agreed feeling that he had nothing to lose as he was already a hated man in Leeds) -hence this past week's clear-out and the scene is now set for Leeds United to finally go forward with confidence in search of new found glories.............I Wish!! ( still you never know lol!)

The criticism of Ken Bates by a minority of people has no bearing on the proposed sale of Leeds Utd, Since Ken Bates has been at Leeds, and we have been for sale as long as Bates clears a nice profit.

It's an Australasian Consortium that is looking to take over Leeds.

As for the coaching staff the deal is no way near to happening anytime soon and is more than likely at the end of this current season. Even if it is true that the proposed buyers want new coaching set up, SG wouldn't have been sacked now unless it was for promotion.

Ken Bates has never feared, or been bothered by criticism before, it is therefore highly unrealistic that he would now just because he is 80.

Bates did not 'reduce the debt', he put the club into administration and then bought the club back from the administrators in questionable circumstances, thereby writing off the debt and regaining control of the club for next to nothing. You make him sound heroic. He's vile.

Click disagree all you like - he did not 'reduce the debt', the debt was written off as part of a legal process known as Administration, a procedure for dealing with corporate insolvency under th Insolvency Act 1986. The core details of any insolvency is, as required by law, in the public domain. We are all entitled to request the details. There were some very unusual aspects to the last LUFC administration. Very questionable thing too in my (relatively well informed) view.

04 Feb 2012 12:18:31
hate to say it, but warnock with his track record could be the man to sought out our lack lustre squad, just dont give him a massive contract so he can be moved on when needed, personnaly i would love poyet but cant see it happening, i cant see why if bates refused to give grayson money for a defender he would pay huddersfield for clark when there are managers avaliable for nothing, good luck to larry and bates out.

Colin would never work with KB

Who's Colin ?

Neil Warnock = Colin w**ker

04 Feb 2012 12:10:09
You may laugh at this, and I was as suprised as anyone, but I have it on very very good authority that KB has turned to Big Ron Atkinson as next Leeds manager. He will sign an 18 month deal and will then become director of football. He will groom Neil Redfearn to be the full time manager after that. Ron's remit will be to get promotion.

Yes Ron, I am laughing. Just as I laughed when my wife bought me your Christmas single 'It's Christmas Give Love a Chance' as a joke a few years back. The worst record ever made, only marginally less bad than a decision to appoint an obnoxious, fat, racist scumbag as manager would be.

04 Feb 2012 11:30:46
Ken, this is your chance to do something right for Leeds, make the right decision and let's move forward. I accept that you won't be leaving this club until we get into the PL , you want the money and we want PL football, it's a win, win for all of us if you pick the right man, experience is the key, not who is the cheapest ..... Warnock or McCarthy will imp sure get us into a playoff position.... if i was in your shoes it would
be simple decision, create a short list then speak to all the players, se who they respect and who they would like in, at the end of the day the need to feel happy working with the new boss, get this right Ken and
I'm sure we will all get behind the boys on match day .. get it wrong and all you will do is create more ill feeling at ER .... its time you listened to us all and did something right !

This is your golden opportunity .. don't F*** it up !

So then when half the squad says one person the rest another what does he do? Just like the fans, the right choice for you (warnock and Mccarthy) are the wrong choices for me. Personally I would like a young manager who plays good football, someone like Di Matteo or O'Driscoll. You can bet the players will be the same in who they would like as manager. In fact as professional surely if you were offered a manager who will shout and bully you then play high energy long ball ugly football, or someone who will talk to you and play good exciting football who would you pick? It's not about pleasing the fans. It's not about pleasing the players. It's about doing what is best for the club.

04 Feb 2012 10:58:33
Bristol 3-1 Leeds my prediction!:'( but good luck hope it's not the predicted scoreline!

Bristol 1 - 5 leeds

Bristol 0 Leeds 3

Bwistol 1 Leeds 2 Gj
yes i spelt it correct lol

We all KNOW we av got the team to at least get in the play off mix , thats whats been so bloody annoying.For some reason they stopped `believing`they could do it,as did i and a lot of other fans.Its time to START believing again for ALL of us,starting today at Bristol,and i think we will.
Leeds to win 3-1

Leeds to keep clean sheet now SG has gone!

04 Feb 2012 10:11:41
some people on here need to get a grip paul lambert aspin lucas for manager please think about what u idiots type b4 u send it

Chill out.... thats why its called a banter page

I know but i dont at all find it funny

04 Feb 2012 07:24:08
Rumour has it Gary Walker will resign this weekend in order to take the Leeds Job till end of season. Lee Clark has confirmed he won't leave Huddersfield paving the way for Walker to take charge after the weekend

Wgere does it say Clarke has ruled himself out?,and who the hell is Gary Walker.

This seems to be a logical choice, although Walker's history of off the field violence could be a stumbling block

It doesn't actually say Clarke rules himself out anywhere other than on 1 report and even on the report that says he ruled himself out it just says that he hasn't been offered a contract .some people are just thick and cant actually write something that makes sense to the rest of the world

{Ed020's Note - am purely posting this to make a point. am not a fan of people picking up posts that are correcting grammer mistakes, anyone that does so will have there comment deleted, please don't bother.}

Ed020, its {Ed001's Note - abusive children will just get blocked, you were warned, say bye.}

Forgive me but is this not a banter page and the synonyms of banter are:
badinage, joking, jesting, pleasantry, persiflage, tease, twit, ridicule, deride, and mock.

If you are deliberately deleting posts that fall under the synonyms or banning people from this site, then you are not providing the service you claim at the heading of this page, you should change it to something like we will block you page or we will ban you page

Come on Ed's this is meant to be a banter page at least let people have banter! {Ed001's Note - when you have no idea what kind of abuse was directed at people in the previous post, it would be best to keep your nose out and not try and interfere. Abusive and nasty posts will continue to be deleted and the poster will continue to be blocked. If you don't like that, I suggest you go elsewhere.}

What you’re saying is that I have to believe what you say, was it abusive? Was abuse directed at someone? The fact is I don't know! I haven't seen the evidence so I will not make a decision; if there was proof for me to see then I may agree with you or disagree depending on the evidence in front of me, I prefer to make my decisions on facts and not statements.

The fact is lots of posts get deleted because you don't agree with them, and not because they contain abusive content! {Ed001's Note - you have no idea why a post gets deleted, I certainly don't delete any posts for disagreeing with me. End of matter. Now stop wasting my time.}