Leeds Banter Archive March 04 2018

 

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04 Mar 2018 19:20:39
After Orta got through at a canter, wex has put him up against over new saviour, radz. Vote thumbs up to sack Orta or thumbs down to have a very British coup and oust radz. It's an overwhelming thumbs up from me on this one 👍

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04 Mar 2018 20:12:31
While I feel Radz is a decent businessman and has brought elland road back into Leeds United ownership I am beginning to wonder if we keep going the way we are on the pitch we'll be in a relegation battle next season and returning to league one is not an option. So things need to change and if radz keeps the faith in Orta, which I suspect he will. We are in grave danger under Radz

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04 Mar 2018 20:37:45
Holy jebus! We're on a Radz out slide now? Who's going to put the coffin at the gates of Elland road this time? Utter joke. Cellino saved our club, and Radz has taken it to the next level as a viable business, and has also promised to do the same so far as playing staff is concerned next year. What the feck do some of you want? Blood? Slaughters of lambs on the pitch before the game so Lord God ashmella bada fatwah blesses the team and future purchases and grants us success?

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04 Mar 2018 20:40:46
i just can't see it, he will be taking opinion from Bravo and Kinnear and whoever else and i don't believe he will shoot his investment in the foot by sticking with something that isn't working. He may just not change it as quick as we want him too but he ain't daft i am sure of that

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05 Mar 2018 08:38:35
All depends exactly what his five year plan is. Is it a business plan whereby you put the club in the best financial position ready for a sale and a return for investors. Hope a few of the young ones get bought. Or is it a football plan to get us into the premiership and maximise the clubs potential and keep the young talent. This summers transfer window will show us where the priorities are. No one has come out of the U23s this year even though they could probably do a better job than some in the team. If money is invested this summer i will stay optomistic. If we move the dead wood out and replace them with more £500,000 bargains i don't hold out much hope. Its up to Radz now to show us he is about Leeds the football club and not Leeds the consortium.

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05 Mar 2018 08:40:16
Scoops perhaps you should change your glasses

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05 Mar 2018 13:11:41
Brightwhite I will if I had one or be the man who will chop of his head, you all said how crap Cellion was and Radz is no different apart from buying our ground, he’s bought in crap managers, as did MC, he’s brought in crap players as did MC, but MC save our club in many ways, his last season with us, he bought in a proper manger and bought in proper players instead of crap managers and crap players it took him time to see that it doesn’t work with crap, he gave up the best season we’ve had in a long time, and really the only problem was the FA didn’t like him because be bought a boat without paying the right amount of tax like many on the site who would try to do the blood same, so with all the sence in the world Radz OUT and stay out

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05 Mar 2018 16:32:42
White man. To be clear, and if you look at all my posts, I was a massive fan of the madcap Italian, and appreciate the fact that he saved the club. I utterly despise those that abused his family, and forced him out. That in mind, what's your point?

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04 Mar 2018 18:28:11
The only way we can make a 15k wage cap work is if we find players to whom 15k is a fortune. I know that makes the scouts job even harder but, for instance, if we snatch, the players player, the fans favourite or one of the top goalscorers from League One or even some corner of the World we are on a good start. Then if they live up to the criterea of Leeds United we must be on to something. If they are as good as we believe then the other requirement is that we strike quickly whilst all other teams sniffing around are thinking about it.

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04 Mar 2018 16:38:53
Hopefully Radz is making it his business to find out exactly why it has gone so badly wrong this season. He had signalled and expected top6 finish this season. And if he doesn't have the funds we had all hoped he did have then he definitely won't want to be wasting any more money on duff players! Continuing with a scout who brings knives to a gun fight doesn't make any sense. If Radz wishes to make another go of it then It looks to me as though the time has come to appoint a scout with a track record of success finding players suitable for this league. Then there may be hope for next season. Otherwise, rather than falsely raising the hopes of fans and taking their money, the right thing for Radz to do might be to find a new larger custodian of LUFC sooner rather than later. Maybe the consortium which looked at buying Newcastle United might be interested?

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04 Mar 2018 17:42:48
Fairly good post LS11 but there lies the problem when you say appoint a scout who knows the league. Yes that helps but it's not the main problem. Us Leeds fans can tell Radz who to buy and that service comes free! We weren't wrong when we mentioned Flint Bryan and Brownhill for instance. The problem is a current unwillingness to purchase those type of players. Acquisition of Forshaw saw a break in that trend but much more is needed. When you look at who should be sold and kept in the summer, we only have in my opinion 14 players tops who are capable of playing in this division and only 3 of those look like they could cut it in the PL. Wex always retorts no guarantee of success and he's right but I like my chances a lot more putting 15m to 20m on the table to acquire those 3 players I mentioned than going to sunny Spain with half a million euros to unearth the gem Spanish clubs don't want but they're expected to storm the harder league of the English championship! Get real! Orta did find Saiz. I'll give him that but for every Saiz there's a couple of Klichs and sadly a Wiedwald. Let's hope no more than one though. The strategy only makes sense if you're not genuinely trying just yet to make it back. Radz said 5 years. Go figure it out guys.

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04 Mar 2018 19:18:19
If Radz is not asking question now then the other investors should be, Rads has said five years because he doesn’t have the funds, he’s bought a Frist class restaurant and serving pie and mash and that aren’t going to work, you can serve up cheap food soon or later you reputation will go. He has done good buying back our ground but as Said by some he’s done that to guard his and the others investment, The only player any good out of the 26 bought in is Saiz but he has is problem, spitting and a bad temper, As I don’t share others point of view on this, I will again say Radz out,

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04 Mar 2018 19:35:45
True, Radz has said five years so maybe i'm being a little unfair/hasty, George. It has been a bloody long time tho since we were in the Premiership. And we've lost many of our best players during this time - in many cases because LUFC were not in the Premiership. How long is long enough for fans to put up with this?

It's not as though they (and visiting supporters) are being asked to pay Premiership prices to see their team! Re Saiz, i happen to agree with Whiteman01 - i'd wager if, when he leaves he doesn't raise as much money as many expect because he comes with this problem. Come on, Radz, get this shambles sorted!

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04 Mar 2018 20:11:23
You misunderstand post code. I'm not saying it's ethical, I'm not saying it's painless for fans and I'm not saying we don't deserve better. It's not especially ethical or wise, it does hurt and we definitely deserve better! I'm simply stating truth and facts. So may as well get used to it. I say Radz stays (for now) because out of all the people on Planet Earth he was the one who bought back the stadium. Our owners are gradually getting better. Our next owner after Radz will probably be the business, but you never know it could turn out to be Radz, but realistically in 2022. The thing I really object to is the inane recruitment policy. For instance, buying back Clayton would actually improve us quite a lot. Plus we need 3 new central defenders! Roll on July.

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Liverpool v Newcastle United - A Liverpool Perspective

04 Mar 2018 16:00:07
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool v Newcastle United - A Liverpool Perspective

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04 Mar 2018 14:57:37
Sad news about Davide Astori. RIP. Puts game into perspective. Only 31. A former player of Cellino I recall.

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04 Mar 2018 17:10:15
Far too young. Very sad news.

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04 Mar 2018 14:48:49
Just musing over lunch, I wonder how fit Pat Jennings, Peter Shilton, Ray Clemence or the like are these days? I wonder if any of them are bored of knocking about the house of a weekend, maybe wanna get away from the wife for a few hours.

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04 Mar 2018 17:11:34
Shitlon was so poor in his latter days that I think he cost us the World Cup. I'd go for Paki Bonner.

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04 Mar 2018 20:40:09
Ok, so who doesn't want to sign Pakki Bonner? Or, is it just personal against bright posts? 🤔🤔🤔

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04 Mar 2018 13:44:27
Looks like Iler Casillas will be a free agent at the end of the season! ? He speaks a bit of espanyol doesn't he?

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04 Mar 2018 11:49:09
Let's face it we weren't far off play offs last year so what we needed to do was keep Gary monk green Taylor Bartley wood and add to that but we got rid of all the best players and manager and replaced with people half has good so it isn't rocket science that we are where we are . Our weaknesses get exposed in every game, keeper, full back position, Taylor not replaced ayling injured, not addesssing the centre back position . Awful

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04 Mar 2018 13:22:52
Monk chose to leave, as did wood and Taylor, and Bartley wasn't even ours! ? Do we just chain them to the gates at Elland road?

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04 Mar 2018 13:36:13
Wonder if monk was told he would be having to work under the constraints of Victor Orta as director of football.

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04 Mar 2018 13:57:31
Probably yes Mezzer and that's why he went, but I wouldn't have trusted Monk with any money, or players here anyway! How much did he spend on asombalongabonga? And how effective was he as the manager at Boro? Glad he's gone personally.

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04 Mar 2018 15:48:25
Agree but even monk knew working with Orta would be a nightmare. Speaks volumes for Ortas reputation.

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04 Mar 2018 20:25:53
monk done well since leaving, wood was the difference a goal scorer of his class makes such a big difference, also having bartley and taylor as two of the best defenders in the leagues, although disagree with orginal post we didn't go up last year as monk was poor, keeping him would of been a disastar. look at what he did at borough and how they are doing now with proper manager

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04 Mar 2018 10:58:16
Vote, choose from Orta out thumbs up or Hecky out thumbs down? I'll start things off and go thumbs up 👍

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04 Mar 2018 16:19:44
What about the guy that hired both of them

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04 Mar 2018 19:16:54
That’s fairly conclusive and ok wex, see my new vote above

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Premier League Match Preview Sunday 4th March 2018

04 Mar 2018 09:29:10
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Preview Sunday 4th March 2018

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04 Mar 2018 08:30:36
Most if not all can see the weaknesses in the team and know that investment is the most important ingredient to change this . Think Rads is the best owner we have had in a long long time. His current plan is not working very well, we are standing still . My big question is has Rads got the funds to invest in the players needed to turn this current squad into an automatic promotion team . Any other option depends on getting lucky. By my reckoning we need the best part of a dozen new players added to the best of what we have, to have a good enough squad to last a full season. When you look at Bournemouth, Watford, Swansea and Southampton in the top flight, we are a much bigger club they have all passed us over the last 10 years with some sensible investment. Rads is wasting his time he he has not got the funds to invest and you cannot do what he says he wants on the cheap.

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04 Mar 2018 09:36:39
Good post PA, got to agree that we have stood still this season. Think it was said that AR's target was play offs for this season and it looks that our stats are going to be way off last season's total. I still believe AR wants to move this club forward but is being badly advised by the people around him, notably Victor Orta. As a business man, I hope he takes stock at the end of the season and rectifies the problem. If we have limited funds for player recruitment each season as part of his business model then this obviously needs investing wisely to maximise our chances of achieving the targets set. This season's failure will be down to poor choice of head coach but ultimately poor player recruitment and that should be later at Ortas door.

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04 Mar 2018 11:08:02
The recruitment policy has been a disaster, mllions spent the vast majority being on players for the future at the expense of the first team we hve one backwards this year with Ortas signings Radz is first and foremost a business man and relying on Orta has been a disaster he needs to get shut or can't see us gettng out of this league we need several players to bring us back ust to where we were we hvent replaced Wood Bartley or Green some of Ortas signings would struggle in league one Orta F-cked Boro up and is doing the same to us we are miles away from bein promoted so c'mon Radz change of direction needed as soon as

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04 Mar 2018 13:22:51
I agree with the feelings expressed here. Orta needs to go or at least cede his power to better people and at least change to quality over quantity. Maybe Radz is being very strong willed and even in face of heavy critisism is sticking to his five year plan, which by the way doesn't allow for us being promoted next year either. The whole Board inc Orta and Hecky need to sit down to a frank and honest discussion. This summers recruitment will be by far the most important since, well since, last summer.

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04 Mar 2018 13:46:50
Hope his 5 year plan takes in the fact that the championship is getting stronger year on year with more money sloshing about in the prem. Teams coming down have more resources, our policy of a 15k weekly wage cap isn't going to get us promoted any time Soon. As good a business man AR may be, running a football team isn't like most other businesses.

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04 Mar 2018 20:44:32
To be fair Mezzer, the PL money sloshing around hasn't been the driving force behind wolves, Cardiff, Bristol, Blunts, Fulham, Derby has it?

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04 Mar 2018 08:07:30
Does anyone know how many points wiedweld has cost us this season

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04 Mar 2018 08:15:34
Lost count last November!

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04 Mar 2018 09:37:13
Most of them at a guess

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Review Of The Day 4th March 2018

04 Mar 2018 06:16:17
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 4th March 2018

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04 Mar 2018 04:09:48
Better to try new things now as season gone and will be in champ next season. It's time for BPF to be tried, time for him to get his chance and he will have to stand up and take it. Better to do now and see if he is our future #1 or do we need new GK in summer, least PH will know. Also should recall Ideguchi as not playing in CL team and as above, gives PH time to work with and asses. What was AR thinking by letter Burnley buy wood over 3 years, crazy but clever of Burnley, maybe AR should try that method if he has no capital. Move on Dallas, O'kane, Phillips, Anita and Pennington and try convince Pontus to give it one more season with assurance that lufc will invest in a decent CB to help him. He looked pissed off and I think he could get us promoted with a good partner (Bartley/flint? ) If ailing comes back to form, he is good and LCoyle as competition. Now also try young LB for next few games and that could be back line sorted? Forward of that, I think the only players up to task are Forshaw, vieira, saiz and Pablo. Pablo not going to be around too many more seasons so need to replace and I would be happy if lassoga goes. If they can buy lassoga cheap with reduced wages, then keep but if not then time to drop him when Roberts available. Need couple of wingers and a forward, when is Tyler Roberts back, be great to see him play at some point this season Could Ekuban and Roberts form a good partnership? I think it been hard for PH as he has got some crap, next season big for him, he needs to stand up and tell AR what he needs and not down to Orta, he has to go. I want him to succeed but I was not impressed with his appointment, I would have gone for Marco Silva, but even he would struggle with these players.

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04 Mar 2018 08:01:44
Pep would struggle with these players

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04 Mar 2018 00:06:33
Stability as a club versus stability as a team

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04 Mar 2018 08:42:25
How many of the past 15 or so years have we had at least 1 out of those 2?

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04 Mar 2018 10:00:57
Recruitment of sub standard players that are not fit for purpose ie not good enough for the league we compete in, could ultimately lead to relegation, possibilities of falling attendances and lower revenue for the club. Stability of clubs usually increase with success on the pitch, saying that sensible management of a club's growth is needed or you can end up with the Ridsdale approach. Surely in football stability starts with the strength of the team and the quality of football it plays. Get that right and the rest comes with it.

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