Leeds Banter Archive February 05 2018

05 Feb 2018 22:20:14
Conte will be available in the morning . but let's face it. Everyone calling for a big name manager. Why would one come too leeds unless he had total control off everything on the playing side. ie transfers. Team squad etc etc. And that's what proper top class managers do. So won't see them at Leeds. Smell the coffee fellow whites. ⚽️⚽️🙄

05 Feb 2018 22:55:10
We are leeds utd at end of the day. A one horse pony with fantastic support and a great history. Anybody should want a chance to become a legend.

05 Feb 2018 23:40:57
I agree ausman. But with radz sticking with orta we have no chance off getting a top class manager to take us we’re we should be. Not going too happen unless radz grows a set and tells orta to go to Spain and look after that other team and leave us alone. ⚽️⚽️🤔

06 Feb 2018 00:33:17
you mention conte then say total control, conte don't have total control of chealsea, very few if any big managers do now days, this is modern football

06 Feb 2018 12:32:02
Tongue n cheek BW. thought your intelligence would have read into that matey. 🤔🤔

05 Feb 2018 21:11:38
Thought we might show ambition and go for a big name manager, as stated thought it should be Silva as like the way his teams have played. But if h-bottom will get onboard as English and the change was needed. Also just seen that Ideguchi of cultural came on in 89th min, isn't he there for game time. If they not using him, send him here for the new manager

05 Feb 2018 21:40:03
Bang right about Ideguchi, Shadwell. Didn't they do the same with the lad Buoy at the start of the season too?

05 Feb 2018 21:45:26
Report i read said he played second half I must be a game behind Can he play centre back?

05 Feb 2018 23:08:47
I guess the last minute of 2nd half. He supposed to be a great player and going to World Cup. Cultural lost the game and if not needed send him to us, could be a great 3 in midfield with Forshaw, Viera and him?

06 Feb 2018 08:06:39
Ah different game. Report i read cultural came from behind ( ooer) and won to move out the relegation zone

05 Feb 2018 20:19:17
I f i wasn't Leeds through and though i might just jump off a bridge

06 Feb 2018 03:56:28
Ox Just land on that bearded wonderless four eyed monster

05 Feb 2018 20:04:34
As a life long White I have seen them come and seen them go. My "first" Leeds manager was the greatest of all the Don and so it's been down hill ever since really. Jimmy Armfield, Howard Wilkinson and O'Leary all gave me hope and a certain amount of pride as did Larry to be fair. Lately like a lot of you my hopes have been raised and dashed in equal measure. I will forever follow my team and my support will be without question, but this latest appointment really is a poor one. What we needed right now is someone of character, with experience and someone who knows this division or the premiership. What we have got is a young guy who has been hired because he has had limited success on a tiny budget and someone who will be manipulated by Orta and blamed by Orta when he fails. Why are we looking for a cheap option ! We are Leeds United, a one city club with massive support, superb facilities and the potential to be a top half Premiership club. AR said that the plan is to be a top 8 Premiership club, I can only assume that Orta is some salesman. I sincerely hope that Paul Heckinbottom ends up having a statue put up outside Elland Road but some how I think that Don will be on his own for quite some time.

05 Feb 2018 20:25:39
Agree Will, another excellent post. Save your breath mate, this club has a cancer spreading through it, it's called Victor orta

05 Feb 2018 20:48:39
Great post, I hope AR reads it!

05 Feb 2018 20:53:29
Yep good post totally agree 👍

06 Feb 2018 03:59:42
Top post WtW. Orta is the worst thing to happen to our football club.

05 Feb 2018 19:57:33
This is what you get. Everyone is looking for the next Eddie Howe

05 Feb 2018 19:42:13
We must get 100 percent behind who becomes our next manager, whether it's Paul heckbotoom or not. the next manager needs all off us behind him, let's give him a chance. Let's unite all together be proud and then we might get back where we belong premiership. Come on leeds United let's unite.

05 Feb 2018 19:33:16
Heckingbottom is only 40, maybe he can play centre half? Victor working his magic again!

05 Feb 2018 19:00:51
don't get all this negitivity about Paul Heckinbottom, ok he hates leeds so what? clough hated leeds and he was the best manager we ever had just a shame he wasn't given a chance, He is british, knows the leagues, has been successful (Barnsely overachiving under him) and is young and highy thought of i would of loved grayson back but i don't think PH is a worst choice, I am really excited by this appointment if it happens and I am always right so don't worry MOT let's get behind him, i think he will do really well and be our best manager since Grayson and hopefully even better than him no McClown and no Strachan we missed a bullet and finally a decent manager at the helm at leeds (again not including warnock who is anpther very good manager not given a chance at leeds)

05 Feb 2018 19:07:18
Agree BW. Probably none of our first choices but I'm more than happy to give him a go. If we'd have appointed another unknown foreigner everyone would have been asking for a young English one. Definitely prefer him to Strachan or Schteeeve

05 Feb 2018 19:08:39
Well said mate

05 Feb 2018 19:23:14
Agree, i think PH could turn out to be a shrewd appointment. He is young, respected as a coach and has won promotion from L1 and the JPT which may not be a major trophy but it is a trophy. I am happy if he comes and will give him every chance.

05 Feb 2018 19:29:57
And he is fluent in spanish!

05 Feb 2018 19:30:02
Bermondsey Clough insulted the best club side this country as ever seen Don Revie was our best manager, Clough would have have been good for Leeds at a better time in the future right place at the wrong time.

05 Feb 2018 20:18:25
Top post Bermo!

05 Feb 2018 21:27:11
Geldred you have to take leeds tinted glasses off, I love leeds but best team this country has ever seen? not by a country mile, many liverpool, man utd, chelsea and even Arsenal (though I hate to say it) teams were far better than our team, let's also include cloughs forest and derby. as they won stuff won lots of stuff. Our team played nice football and won a couple of things (not much compared to some teams) but it also fell at the last hurdle too much to be great. Shankley, ferguson, Busby, Daglish sides all walk over that team but winner more for longer. As for Revie over clough? Reive won a couple of things with a great team, clough won league titles and european cups with two different poor team. Sorry but clough was a far stronger manager than the don. I also think wilko was better than the don as he made leeds overachieve i don't think the don did

05 Feb 2018 22:32:49
Well said Bermo but please retract the Clough statement mate!

05 Feb 2018 22:45:06
That post bermo has peed me off mate. Dalglish and even Shankleys records as a manager are much the same as Revie. And how can you say these teams were far better than Leeds when you never even saw that Leeds team or any other team of that era play? Chelsea and Arsenal teams on your bike. Ask any player from the seventies who were the best side they ever played against and most will say Leeds United. Fact.

06 Feb 2018 00:43:05
sorry cork, I have spoken to a player who played against that team (peter Kitchen who played for donnie and is a good mate of mine) he said they were great, strong, dirty, hard yet could play. really play. But the teams i mention are eras, Ok shankly didn't win that much more than revie but still won more as for Daglish how can you say it is much the same as revies, reive won two league titles, two domestic cups and two fake european cups, dalish won 6 leagues that is three times as many, come on that washes away revies record surely?

Same with modern chealsea 5 prem titles and Arsen (who I hate) who has won more than i care to list. They may of played great football but they won very little. As for clough I am sorry but he won back to back champions leagues (it's version as it was then) even Pep ain't don't that, like or loathe the man he is the most successful manager leeds have ever had, sadly his success wasn't with us

06 Feb 2018 07:19:36
Revie's team was virtually the same playing staff for a good 10 year period with only one sub you weren't around I was I grow up watching super Leeds no other club had as much respect as Leeds believe me there's been non better.

06 Feb 2018 08:15:22
respect in leeds, many outside leeds do not hold the same respect. you say in london they would laugh and mention man utd and liverpool and this is none biased teams. the ten years is my point, he had a decade with great world class players should he not of won more, the other clubs seem to?

05 Feb 2018 18:35:07
If we appoint the Barnsley boss it demonstrates how badly out of touch with the majority of the fans AR really is. Beginning to wonder just how much of a great Business man he really is. AR is a user of social media, so is more than aware of the feelings by many to the harm we believe Orta Is doing to Our club. Appoint Whoever as coach/manager But nothing will change as long as Orta calls the shots on recruitment.

05 Feb 2018 18:56:52
sorry mate I dissagree with this, Paul Heckinbottom is british (lots of leeds fans wanted that) he knows the league well (wanted by lots of leeds fans) and is young, ambitious and highly thought of. He would be a great appointment and top class by Rad. Also think some people need to give orta a rest, i am not a fan but he ain't done bad with us so far, our players brought in by him were top the league until TC messed things up

05 Feb 2018 19:34:10
Can't agree with you on Orta mate, if he was so good why did Boro kick him out. Only Siaz been really any good so far from the ones he got in. Majority were here before Orta.

05 Feb 2018 17:45:21
Saves on moving costs! Does have knowledge of this division? Any rate if it is to be PH (and he doesn’t bring Mowatt with him) I will give him all my support. now Mr Orta on the other hand!

05 Feb 2018 17:36:30
Oh dear we avoid the worse on the list then seemingly go for the second worst on the list. It must be Leeds. It can only be Leeds.

05 Feb 2018 18:41:00
Better managers out of work so we go for a poor option in a job.

05 Feb 2018 19:06:04
Very underwhelming to say the least.

05 Feb 2018 16:10:06
According to Phil Hay looks like its Heckingbottom. Apparently he signed a contract last week with Barnsley bit there's a release clause that Leeds have pounced on. "Looking to get the deal done by tonight"

05 Feb 2018 16:34:38
Please, no. if it's a toss up between him and Wolfe, then I'd take the German, everyday.

05 Feb 2018 16:43:17
oh god nooooooooooo

05 Feb 2018 17:21:19
If it’s true then it shows no bloody ambition whatsoever on Radz part, we go from one extreme to the other, FFS will we ever get out of this horrible league, the longer we are in the championship the harder it will just keep getting! Totally underwhelmed! Marching On Together Nowhere!

05 Feb 2018 17:42:45
He has a poor win ratio but you’ve got to remember he’s manager of Barnsley, not a team with money. Before they sold their best players (Winnall, Hourihane etc) they were decent and finished 9th last year with a poor side. He wouldn’t be my number one choice but I’ll back him if gets the job just like anyone else.

05 Feb 2018 17:55:03
Barnsley was going to sack him next week.

05 Feb 2018 19:02:01
not true Grayson he only recently signed a new contract with buy out clause

05 Feb 2018 15:50:52
I can't imagine any decent Manager worth his salt wanting Orta anywhere near the place. For me he has to go as well.

05 Feb 2018 19:29:58
Thats the real issue. Who other than a manager whos wanting to step up would want to come within a mile of Orta and his cheap deals?

05 Feb 2018 15:26:16
Sorry to see a nice guy go but it was time. Don't expect a big name to come in but the good signs are that Radz clearly has some one standing by. And even better he must think we still have a chance of the top 6 or he could have just waited until the end of the season. Unfortunately I think we have zero chance of the top 6.

05 Feb 2018 14:16:40
Naughty naughty Mr Aizlewood. I never liked you.

05 Feb 2018 15:59:46
Still remember the 2 finger salute he gave us in the kop! Didn't last long after that!

05 Feb 2018 13:36:46
Need to add Wolfe and Poyet to my earlier list below. Pearson, McCarthy, Silva or Grayson could all do a job. Would like to get Wagner if he was available. Any of the above could do the job well . The other big ingredient is money for the players that are good enough. Good thing is a new manager has this season to get up and running plus 2 windows before the end of next season. Rads has been around since the summer of 2016.Financialy involved from xmas 2016/Jan 2017 if we don't get up next season it will be 2020 at the earliest. That will be nearly 4 years into his 5 year plan. Think he needs start putting the right funds into this if he really wants to get there

05 Feb 2018 12:53:51
How about we get fergie out of retirement 🤣

05 Feb 2018 13:52:21
I think she lives in the US now Dougie, and if we're going for a ginger I'd rather have Strach! 😁

05 Feb 2018 14:50:05
She always did live in the US danum. California girl.

05 Feb 2018 12:38:10
Radz if your Reading post on this site go for G Rowett and pay out his contract.

05 Feb 2018 12:46:42
We need someone who understands the Championship, the nature of the club and also how to work with a large cluster of relatively new to the division mainland Europeans, which is a pretty complex personnel spec. A combination of Clotet, Poyet and Silva might do it, but we'll probably end up with Hockaday again. Some 36 year old bloke called Wolfe from Stuttgart or wherever apparently wants it. Wtf he knows about British football I do not know.

05 Feb 2018 13:51:44
He probably knows about as much as Klopp and Wagner did when they came over

05 Feb 2018 12:19:48
Pearson, McCarthy, Silva or Grayson could all do a job. Would like to get Wagner if he was available.

05 Feb 2018 11:59:29
I just read on another sit, sorry eds, that one of the reasons TC was sacked was that he was let down by his players. They are not HIS players they are Ortas. I feel that TC was too hastily let go. How can you give him players who he did not ask for, then for whatever reasons deny him some of those players, then wonder when things don't go right. Surely selection wise the hard game is Sheff Utd, much less so Bristol City then pretty much full strength for Derby. I hear people say Lassoga, Grot etc. are a waste of space but whose fault is that, certainly not TCs. We should have persevered and given him two more games to start to turn it around. Early season has shown what we are capable of and could have been again.

05 Feb 2018 12:20:14
Most of Ortas signings have been dire he totally messed up Boro and doing the same to us so how come he's still with us agreed TC has been up against it with suspensions and injuries but lacked the tactical nous at this level Radz must also shoulder some blame for backing Orta yes strengthen the under 23s but not at the expense of the first team millions spent on younsters who are nowhere near ready to step up surely a lot of money spent should have gone on quality players to help get into the playoffs, the top managers in the premier league couldn't do much with what we've got so pick the best manager you can get shut of Orta and give the new manager a fighting chance

05 Feb 2018 16:10:40
Rhino I agree but can’t see that we can do much about that now we have what we have unfortunately it’s going to take someone very strong to take this lot on and forward, Orta needs go or take a back seat. I believe that TC has been sacked to save Orta bacon Radz needs bigger balls

05 Feb 2018 11:46:45
I really hope Radz takes a couple of minutes to look thro these, or any, posts. He will see the one thread running thro all of this is the need to remove Orta and if, as he says, he listens, then the proof of those statements is, get rid.

05 Feb 2018 11:37:43
Hey guys, for me I would like to see Nigel Pearson, no nonsense approach is what we need plus his experience in the championship, he has indicated an interest in the job which would suggest a willingness to work with Orta, that would remain to be seen though, also feel Mick McCarthy would do a great job similar to pearson but think he's too comfy in Suffolk at the moment, hope they sort it quickly. MOT brothers

05 Feb 2018 12:14:26
DJ, I would be happy with Pearson, not sure of McCarthy, but I do not think either of these would work under Orta.

05 Feb 2018 11:32:04
Don't think we have much choice but wonder if we can bring Lewiw coyle back. We need a right back, otherwise we may have to look at our awful u23 side free agents. i'm sure we only have 2 fit defenders and one of them is Pennington. God help us

05 Feb 2018 10:50:58
Mark hughes Paul clement Maybe poach johnson from Bristol city If u look there's very little in the way of available British managers. I genuinely think it doesn't have to be a criteria. Huddersfield, wolves, Fulham Sheffield Wednesday have had reasonable success with foreign managers. I imagine it will be an other TC like appointment someone we don't expect or have really heard of

05 Feb 2018 10:22:25
Don't matter who the manager will be, as ĺong as he is experience in the championship or premiership. He needs to get 2 full backs and a experience striker who are all free agents in now. there are some good players out there looking for clubs, even if it's pay as you play contract.

05 Feb 2018 10:10:45
No to mclaren. Larry or anybody else that has been sacked by a championship or lower team. let's get ambitious radz. Weve got one small bite of the cherry left. let's make it count. don't bring any of the fav in or strachan or mcallister. Prem experience should be a must.

05 Feb 2018 10:49:09
May not be a popular choice but IMO i'd go for Mark Hughes ain't bothered about his Man Utd past did great job at Stoke always hard to beat bags of experience much better option than some names bandied about

05 Feb 2018 09:11:33
IT’GREAT NEWS the fans have spoken he didn’t know what he was doing and Radrizzani has listened. Not too bothered who comes in as long as he is British and has experience in the championship Need to bring him in quickly if we want to get back into the playoff positions

05 Feb 2018 09:02:14
Not heard them mentioned but perhaps worth considering Redknapp, Martin O'Neil or what about Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet? Please not McLaren.

05 Feb 2018 09:16:54
How many thumbs down for this post.

05 Feb 2018 10:19:15
Absolutely none of the above, please! ?

05 Feb 2018 08:38:08
Steve Maclaren, no thankyou as he's not done anything at any club he's been at. Larry Grayson, no thankyou as we need to look forwards and not go back over old ground.

05 Feb 2018 08:08:38
Radz., Orta has be sacked not only TC

05 Feb 2018 07:32:58
I don't give a toss who the new coach is, let's get this new badge sorted ffs! 😁

05 Feb 2018 10:39:41
At least there's only three people on this site with no sense of humour! Not bad that really. 😀

05 Feb 2018 11:28:55
Nice on Danum! I wonder if they'll do the same for the coach as the badge, and let us all vote on which we prefer?

05 Feb 2018 12:35:54
Go on then Bright, I'll go for Guardiola! 😃

05 Feb 2018 12:39:51
Brightwhite that’s a good point then we would all be 😊

05 Feb 2018 04:09:37
Louis van Gaal hates Man Utd so would be adored by the fans here. Imagine if he could take us up and extract revenge on Man Utd for the despicable way they treated him. I know he is pricey but he is the best IMO. Probably out of our league in reality.