Leeds Banter Archive March 05 2018

05 Mar 2018 17:39:40
Hi all. What we discuss on this forum is reflective of Leeds fans' thoughts generally. Our differs of opinion probably reflect quite accurately the overall view of the wider following. I am quietly confident that Radz follows our ramblings and is acutely in tune with our thoughts. I am this also confident that he will give Orta and Felix the grave ho soon enough. Not as soon as we would have wished, but I feel sure that he will act. He will see what so many others see. The man couldn't get where he is, whilst blind to the obvious obstructions to his aims. The boy will come good. Trust me blossoms.

05 Mar 2018 18:38:44
I have serious doubts Radz knew Ortas failings at Boro and still brought him in and still backs him at this point Green left because of lack of assurances of him being No 1 didn't get it so brings in Wiedy leaving us with prrobbl the worst keepers in the league couple this with the millions wasted on naff signings on Ortas say so and that explains why were going backwards Radz is not a football man and relying on Orrta is beyond a joke need shut asap

05 Mar 2018 18:49:38
I hope he does reads these comments - there's a lot of Yorkshire common sense here from his customers which could be very valuable to him. He talked about longer terms plans yet followed in Cellino's footsteps by pretty quickly dispensing with the first coach. And some have reasonably said TC now looks a miracle worker with the points he secured with this bunch of players (when they were actually playing and not suspended or injured) . There is no time like the present to show you are serious. IF Orta is up to the job then presumably Radz will give him a proper budget for the summer. Now, i wonder if that fills Radz and the fans with confidence based upon Orta's track record (with us and elsewhere) ? There can only be one choice - get a new scout and make sure you align him with the coach and results on the field. Otherwise you are wasting your and the fans money by repeating the same mistakes and creating greater fan unrest.

05 Mar 2018 21:52:58
It’s Radz first year in English footie - he is learning as he goes so won’t have it all correct straight away. He has already said that there will be a change to recruitment and he will look to get players experienced in the Champ if possible in the future (like Forshaw) so that is already an improvement. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

06 Mar 2018 05:24:25
Rome grew bigger Alf as it went about its business. LUFC seems to be getting worse brick by brick.

06 Mar 2018 21:02:56
Getting worse? I'm assuming now that you're fortunately young enough to not remember the bad times? Like the last fifteen years! And the worse than average years in the eighties? Context, and comparison, equals reality.

05 Mar 2018 13:17:48
Just bought a new dictionary guys. Hot off the press. Latest version with all those new millennium words and everything. Anyway, here's the new definition of the word "insensitive". It just reads "consult Martin Glenn"!

05 Mar 2018 19:33:26
Gone over my head again George

05 Mar 2018 19:38:23
If your talking about the guy from the FA then it'd just a case rules for them and rules for us. A player or manager would be suspended for comments like that

05 Mar 2018 13:13:03
As a glass is half empty man, and not knowing when my next top up is going to be. After tomorrow we could be sitting in 14th place and the league leaders due up next. So, is it not time for Radz to take his blinkers off and make Orta prove his worth by - one) agreeing with Hecky to blood one or two youngsters and two) ask him what exactly is he doing to fix our positional problems and lastly three) for goodness sake bring Ideguchi home. He may solve our midfield problem but even if not I would rather know now than the start of next season. PS Better still just let him walk away and let a proper Chief Scout do the job.

05 Mar 2018 13:56:23
knowing us we could just as easily beat Wolves as lose to them. We took a step back in the last game as the players reverted to type but overall i think we have made progress. Unlike TC Hecky did not have a pre season to assess the squad and decide what he wanted to do - instead he is having to do it game by game and in a run where we are playing some of the best in the league. Not sure anybody else would have fared any better.

05 Mar 2018 16:03:29
Alf where did you notice progress on Friday night

05 Mar 2018 16:23:08
You're right Alf. change manager at this time of the season, then you're immediately looking at next season when you have a squad with no confidence.

05 Mar 2018 16:32:08
Wex, we kept 11 on the field.

05 Mar 2018 17:19:35
He assessed Barnsley in preparation season and that went pear shaped for him

05 Mar 2018 12:59:34
Interesting to read Eoghan Stokes bitter or not there must be some truth in his statement. There surely must be more meaning, more endeavour in a league game than there is in a U23s game. The U23s are there just to teach young kids the ways of Leeds Utd and as soon as that sinks in, and they are good enough, either bring them through or loan them out to play in meaningful games where to lose means something and actually hurts. Even a team in L2 if pushing for promotion has more pressure and demands than turning out each week in front of one man and a dog where defeat is not painfull. Let the boys come up against men and let's see if they really have what it takes.

05 Mar 2018 10:41:40
I'd say I'm extremely optimistic when it comes to Leeds. Glass half full supporter, but even I've conceded to this season being dead and gone. IMO it would be a no brainer to blood some of the u23s now. Even if they drop back in to the youth squad for next season, what is there to lose? And it it might expose holes in their games that they'll be able to sure up in pre-season.

05 Mar 2018 12:41:32
Totally agree O4K, What's the point of waiting till pre season to try them out against local non league sides or Norwegian sides we have never heard of. The only problem is PH wants to keep his job, so he can't afford to experiment.

05 Mar 2018 09:18:09
For all of you saying radz out, you're foolish. The man has spent over 25 million on this club in the last 12 months, why would he walk away? He has tried to sign on the cheap, and will probably admit that. Think its clear the man has bags of money, and will probably throw another 10-15 million at it again this summer. i'd rather 3 top end quality players who will carry us up, than 5/6 to the standard of grot and ekuban. i feel as though we missed a trick with joe ledley, glen whelan, all these journeymen who can boss a midfield, probably something forshaw will become but right now we need an old head. there are 3 players that i think will do this team enough to get out of this league. danny ward from liverpool, solid goalkeeper. barts, hero. and anthony pilkington, he's done it in this league, and is still of the age where he can boss it both out wide and in the middle, for 2 maybe 3 years. To me, this team sounds ready to go up: ward, ayling, jansson, barts, bera, dallas, forshaw, pilkington, hernandez, saiz, lasogga.

05 Mar 2018 09:43:07
Finally, someone talking sense! Well said Samo. I still very much believe in Radz too. For the record, I'm not a fan of Lasogga. My personal opinion is that he's no better than GrotBags. He's not set the world on fire and has hardly been prolific. For me, he's simply not good enough so wouldn't make my list. Obviously other people will disagree with that, but that's the whole point of these forums :-) Have a nice Monday everyone.

05 Mar 2018 09:55:47
Woods money Taylor money cook money

05 Mar 2018 12:06:58
southern lasogga will do, were proving this year that we can score goals from elsewhere, saiz hernandez and pilkington could all chip in with 5/10 a season. lasogga isn't a world beater no, and he's not got the credentials of a player like wood or nugent who is a sniffer but is still mobile. chris wood money is 3 5million installments (a good thing if you look at it in a way of, its another 5 million to spend next year) taylor money was 6 million, cook money was spent on loans like hernandez, barts, grimes, jansson, the signings of green and ayling, okane roofe, that's where cook money went. so to me, we had 11 million from player sales this year, arguably when you look at players like doukara and bridcutt and big dave whove left, and us loaning out antonsson, coyle, murphy, wilks at the start of the season, you could say there's probably around 15 million to play with. this season the average transfer fund was 7.2 million in the champ, so let's suppose leeds and radz put in 8, 23 million to play with. forshaw 4.5, saiz 3.2, alioski 3, de bock 1.5, jansson 3.5, wiedwald 500k, cibicki 1.2, grot 700k, ekuban 500k, bouy free, anita free, lasogga loan, hernandez new contract, dallas new contract, okane new contract, ayling new contract ideguchi 500k, all the u23's boys. I make that a transfer total of 19.1 million, from a 23 million budget, leaving just less than 4, with ER being bought back for 17, that suggests to me radz is at least 15 million out of pocket. Its sad, but that the probable truth of this, it shows how much we've wasted, but then again, when you look at the attained value of players like jansson, ayling, alioski, roofe, saiz, forshaw, vieira, which are all our own players, we haven't done too bad with dealings. the man will re-invest, he means business, problem he's had this year is that he's had to focus initially on picking the club up again. i think he's done and is doing a tremendous job, and we should be grateful for all he's investing. he's got this money for a reason, so there's some solidity in his business record, he has set up the links with cultural which may not be of significant benefit but when the club really starts to be come succesful and u23's come through this is a chance for them to get first team football elsewhere. some of us leeds fans can be very naive and don't look atthe bigger picture. i'm the same as you all, i want wins every saturday. but no team can do that in this league there's too mcuh competition. long way to go before we get back to where we belong, but until he makes ahuge blunder, i'm behind radz, not so much orta, but on the whole the two of them and kinnear aren't doing such a bad job. The players are the ones whove let leeds down this year, team selection, injuries and suspensions, poor guidance in truth.

05 Mar 2018 12:32:45
How can Pilkington chip in samo? He doesn't and probably never will play for us

05 Mar 2018 13:22:41
youll see 1 if not 2 attacking players come in over the summer, whoever that may be, if he's worth his money, will score. that's all i meant, but my preferred choice right now would be pilkington, boot fits imo

05 Mar 2018 16:34:57
Southern. Sense, who, what, where oh dam I missed it

05 Mar 2018 05:23:55
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 5th March 2018