Leeds Banter Archive April 06 2018

06 Apr 2018 22:36:46
Have to say I havnt posted in a lot off weeks. Maybe months. As it depresses me reading the posts and the posts I may write myself. But sitting in Spain. I'm sitting thinking . after nipping round too watch a bit off the Fulham game. We are rubbish. ! TBH. I was wanting too give what the heck ? A chance. But not looking good. Need too fork outnon a high class manager. Not a coach. And give him the choice on transfers for players and players out over the summer. This season was over before heck came. But its getting worse. 🇪🇸⚽️😩

07 Apr 2018 08:57:51
Batty. Heckingbottom came in with no expectations and no pressure just turn results around and stop the rot. He failed miserably Tuesdays match was a prime example of his inability. We go 2 down in the 60th minute and he waits 12 minutes to make a change. Why wait so long? Answer he did not know what to do

07 Apr 2018 09:41:48
Heckingbottom not the long term solution and realistically should be changed at the end of the season. This season has been a mixture of poor players and coach/managers. AR needs a complete rethink into his future plans for the club because if he has not learnt anything from this season then he needs to move on and let someone else try.

07 Apr 2018 10:46:35
How do you know he is not the long term solution when he has inhereted a dissolusioned team with little or no say in recruitment and not even been given a season or a summer transfer period to do anything. Now I am not saying he is the answer and I an not even saying that maybe you are right. What I am saying is before anyone passes the death sentence he deserves a full fair trial.

07 Apr 2018 13:38:34
If, big if! We are serious about getting out of this league (prem not league1) then IMO we need a strong manager who will have a say in recruitment of players he wants, don't think PH is that man, more a yes man.

06 Apr 2018 21:13:40
This from the BBC website re Cardiff v Wolves "The pre-match predictions of a record league crowd look accurate too - it looks like at least 30,000 in here. " The runaway top 2 attracting at least 30,000 ? WTF?

07 Apr 2018 09:02:28
It was less than 30000

06 Apr 2018 20:13:40
My son is absolutely mad on footie and always asking loads of questions. Tonights questions was about dives, in particular bad dives which reminded me of the worst ever dive in the history of the game. Adryan Vs Derby a few years ago, brought it up on youtube and we have only just recovered from a fit of laughter. Has anyone seen a worse dive than Adryan trying to do an impression of a salmon out of water?

06 Apr 2018 22:03:02
Biggest one for me was when the year we won the title, 6-1 vs wendies, and Gordon Watson took that massive dive, with eff all contact.

06 Apr 2018 22:03:37
Gordon Watson. Sheff Wed vs Leeds during our Championship winning season. Wednesday took the lead through a penalty given for the most delayed dive I have ever seen. We went on to spank them 6-1

06 Apr 2018 22:32:24
Lol Notts. beat you to it!

07 Apr 2018 00:35:19
Notts We were actually 2 nil up at the time of the dive. Sheridan got their goal but in more ways than one he didn't actually score the penalty kick.

07 Apr 2018 10:11:50
Me in lanzorotte last year Lucas after 12 sherbert's. I'm no Tom daley

06 Apr 2018 19:25:27
Guys, what do we reckon to this Higgs-Boson particle? Can he play at the back? Didn't we have a Shane Higgs in nets once a upon a future time? I think much creativity in midfield will come from the Higgs-Boson. Could really light things up, Aussie!

06 Apr 2018 21:09:37
I've heard he just runs round in circles, altho very, very quickly

07 Apr 2018 10:58:59
Another one found in Switzerland?

06 Apr 2018 10:42:07
Monk out! Ruining our club!

06 Apr 2018 11:53:37
I say, Give the man a chance ;-)

06 Apr 2018 12:32:56
We will do sooo much better when he's gone. Radz knows what ge is doing. He is a smart man. Good staff. He will get us promoted. No more second rate cheap managers now monk has gone.

06 Apr 2018 12:41:52
Monk weren't that good. I'd rather have TC than Monk anyday.

06 Apr 2018 14:13:38
Has the news not got to Australia yet?

06 Apr 2018 14:47:32
Heckingbottom's barmy army! 😜

06 Apr 2018 15:57:13
What news? We sacked monk and got promoted?

06 Apr 2018 16:19:00
Aus I see you have re-taken command of your computer. You must be delighted.

06 Apr 2018 17:49:04
Sack clough!

06 Apr 2018 18:09:28
43 days and counting lucas

06 Apr 2018 18:16:50
I'm gutted Revie has taken the England job

06 Apr 2018 18:47:14
Omg speedie. Noooo
But at least the future is white.

06 Apr 2018 18:48:21
I'd definitely play viduka this weekend

06 Apr 2018 18:53:53
I'm still reeling from the fresh news that Leeds City has been disbanded

06 Apr 2018 19:00:01
Speedy, I'm still in despair we changed our city name from what the Venerable Bede of Jarrow used to call us. The passing of a millenia can't soften the blow. Aus, millenia means a thousand years.

{Ed001's Note - am I going to have to put *spoiler alert* on the top of this thread? Poor Aus has so much to catch up on....}

06 Apr 2018 19:04:16
Yes Ed001. Martyn, this pub they're constructing called Whitelocks I think it'll stand for 300 years plus and do rather well. You'll see!

{Ed001's Note - poor Aus is going to be suffering deja vu the rest of his life.}

06 Apr 2018 19:15:45
This galaxy called the Milky Way. It's got every chance of success because of its brilliant Creator whose got the whole stable cosmic transcendental realm with a protective layer from demonic forces absolutely nailed on for peaceful existence for future humanity. Aus!

06 Apr 2018 22:15:02
Whitelocks. need to go back there soon!

07 Apr 2018 02:26:17
Yous lot talk dribble. Revie managing england. Lol
Get away with you!

06 Apr 2018 10:35:36
Now I don't know if Hecky is the new Messiah but I do know that 14 managers in 10 years is a joke and no recipe for progress. Maybe all those calling for his head need to take a deep breath and remember that anarchy never solved anything. Give the man a chance with his team and his ways. Even this summer it sounds like his team may not even be that with a much restricted budget and Victor Orta to fight against. It will certainly call for some bargain basement shopping. Again adding fuel to the "out" brigade. Even the ones shouting for Radz out forget that there wasn't, nor is there still, a queue of billionaires waiting to pounce. We are what we are. We are where we are. It's going to take time to turn this ship around. Even with billions you don't always get what you want. There will be a couple of big spenders this year worried if their gamble doesn't pay off and promotion is not achieved. Like treasure hunters, some people find the gold but most people just end up broke. Everyone on here is a psuedo Leeds manager and knows he can do a better job. For better or worse Hecky is in charge. No doubt I will still offer him my words of wisdom but at the end of the day let's let him get on with it. Even if I don't see my dream then at least I can pass the dream on to my children.

06 Apr 2018 11:04:04
Heck simply isn't good enough, giving him more time will just set us even further back. The manager who deserved time was TC as he was actually building something. Our fans rave over Jokanovic, but no one mentions he finished 21st in his first season, our fans would scream for his head if he did that here. I fail to see what Heck has done to justify him staying longer and no he doesn't need his players, as a better manager would make an instant impact. Get someone like Silva, De Boer or Wolf, who play the right way and have managed clubs with expectant fans. A new manager is far more important than signing an entire new team AGAIN. Heck would struggle with the Barcelona team.

06 Apr 2018 11:11:47
To be fair mate, there were people saying: Give Hockaday a chance
Give Redfearn a chance
Give Rosler a chance
Give Evans a chance
Give Monk a chance
Give Heck a chance And the list goes back long before Hockaday. As a fan, I'm sick and tired of poor recruitment of both ManagersCoaches and Players. Therefore I'm sick of being asked to give people chances. Obviously anarchy never solved anything, but equally, you can't polish a turd. Our players are shocking and our Manager Coach is just as bad. Personally I tend not to comment much on here, I just enjoy reading other peoples opinions. Therefore I think it's fair to say that I'm not a member of the 'Out Brigade'. I still have faith in Radz, but I certainly have no faith in Hecky. Hecky will be the man to takes us into League One. So for me, No, I don't want to give Hecky a chance. Obviously I have no choice in the matter!

06 Apr 2018 11:22:00
What fan from any club would be content with 2nd best? Is the fight over, are we doomed because of complacency and acceptance of going nowhere. I praise the likes of Blackburn fans and others who don't cower n the corner.

06 Apr 2018 11:25:38
Fair point in instability of 14 managers in 10 years gets you nowhere. People calling for a head are the sort that would have shouted for Ferguson’s head in the period he failed to win anything and looked what happened subsequently. You have to give someone time to succeed or fail, react if relegation looms but otherwise build. Constant chopping and short termism has got us to where we are now. Give the current guy a chance

06 Apr 2018 11:38:10
Should we have given Hockaday a chance too then? He had a better record than Heck does.

06 Apr 2018 12:09:40
For the give him a chance brigade, Question, if we take his record back to the start of the season after 10 games we would be 17th with 9pts
Would you be saying give him a chance, give him the transfer window in Jan. I know we will have the not his players argument but who are his players, look were Barnsley are.

06 Apr 2018 12:19:36
Then do you get a new manager and before he has had time to build his style, on his players call for his head before he has had a chance to build something. It's not always success from day 1 As Coffee reminds us Frgie would be gone if the owners had listened to the out brigade. We have to give the club a chance to build something and until a (multi) Billionare comes along he is all we've got, so let's stick with Radz and Hecky. Even hope that we were all wrong about Orta when 4 or 5 of his young guns takes us up next year. Being a Leeds supporter is all about faith and hope. I hope that Radz spent many hours checking Hecky for the job but like buying a player it still comes down to a gamble in the end. There is many a big name manager gone to a big team who has failed. It's always a gamble. If we get rid and get a Silva or similar what are you going to do if he doesn't get it right. 16 managers in 10 years? Is that the answer? Let's all have faith that slowly things will turn around. Like all gardeners out there, you have to have patience. You cannot plant seeds and complain when there are no flowers next week.

06 Apr 2018 13:57:44
Why is Heck being compared to Fergie? 😂 Ferguson had success in Europe with Aberdeen before he went there. Heck was crap at Barnsley and has a list of excuses to try and make out like he's a good manager.

06 Apr 2018 14:09:02
Not compared man to man but the circumstances at the start of his reign bare comparison. Man Utd. thought they had the right man for the job but early results went against him and a groundswell of supporters, maybe even some of the board, wanted him out but they persevered and stuck with him and look what happened. I am not saying history will repeat itself with Leeds but a little bit of that magic would not go amiss. I am believer in stability and continuity. ManU had 6 managers in 10 years and went nowhere. We have had 14 in the same period.

06 Apr 2018 14:18:21
Probably because we keep appointing poor managers and keep "giving them a chance" when they're not good enough. We all know what will happen next season, Heck will be sacked by November when we're in the bottom 3, a dinosaur like Colin, Pardew or McCarthy will come in to "save us" from relegation and we'll finish 15th. Then when they're still mediocre the following season after talk of promotion in the summer, they'll be sacked when we're in lower mid table and repeat ad infinitum. Wasted season after wasted season.

06 Apr 2018 14:18:22
Hecky won promotion with Barnsley and had all his best players sold from under him. You can't compare Barnsley to Leeds i'm afraid

06 Apr 2018 14:31:37
Lee Johnson built that team and left them after they won 7 in a row and had all the momentum. Heck was lucky to walk into that job. Since he's got the job permanently he's been dreadful and he spent more at Barnsley than Sheffield United, Millwall, Preston and Ipswich have this season. No excuses. So if we can't compare Barnsley to Leeds, why did we hire their manager?

06 Apr 2018 14:37:26
I seem to recall seeing some stats showing the Great Dons results hen he as first appointed, and they were pretty damned poor. Had the same climate existed then, as it does today, he would never have been given the opportunity to build the dynasty that he did. And no, I'm not comparing PH to the Don, before anyone spits that one out! 😳😂😂

06 Apr 2018 15:22:37
Bright White. Good comment. In any club it takes time for any manager to have an impact. No matter what the team. Does it not dawn on any of the get him out brigade that one of the reasons none of the so called superstar managers called for don’t or won’t take the Leeds job is the short term merry go round nature of the appointment over the last 10 years. Get behind the team and the man in the job through the ups and downs.

06 Apr 2018 17:08:36
Our list of Managers since O'Leary doesn't make our various owners look very ambitious. Some really strange cheap options along the way. Although we should always be grateful to Grayson for getting us out of the hell hole that was League 1, plus a great Cup run. His team first year back up could have done a double promotion if Bates had invested in the Winter transfer window.

06 Apr 2018 18:39:13
Grayson, Monk and TC were the only good appointments we've made since relegation. So much dross we've wasted time and money on.

06 Apr 2018 21:25:23
OMF faith and hope? . DELUSIONAL!

06 Apr 2018 07:08:51
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 6th April 2018