Leeds Banter Archive August 06 2011

 

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06 Aug 2011 22:26:10
What the hells going on at Leeds, playing badly just like the end of last season. Defensively still poor, none existant midfield, poor strike force. Come om Simon/Batesy get your finger out and buy some top quality players, other wise prepair yourselves for division 1.

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Was at the match today and must say that we were left wanting all game. We had no real attacking options. Gradel looked like a young child who could not get his own way so he kept throwing himself to the floor. both full backs looked awful and two of the goals were due to our players allowing Saints to run with the Ball. Unless old man bates throws some decent money at Larry we are going to have a long and hard season. LUFC.

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06 Aug 2011 22:20:48
I hate to say this, but i think there are a number of people posting on this site who were hoping that we would lose today so they could lay into the team,manager and chairman again. 1 game into the season and everybody is crap, and the manager and chairman should go Presumably everyone on this site is always perfect in their job and never makes any mistakes?. Why dont the really brilliant critics, concentrate on making a fortune, by the club and put their money where their mouths are

Clearly we would have wanted a better start and the Manager and Chairman will be judged on what the season brings. But come on, lets get behind the players we have and encourage them to perform as a team. Imagine how some of the players must feel reading how s**t they are every day from their own supporters

Come on boys, get your heads up and lets smash bradford in the week. Good luck

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Well, we lost to Derby in the first game last season. But this really feels like it has been waiting to happen. The team lacks shape and depth. The mid field is unbalanced and we now have no strikers to even it out. A thirty four year old will have one or two good games, but that was never going to be against a newly promoted side full of enthusiasm. This could be a long, long season. I watched as people criticised the lack of transfer activity. Months ago people said a centre back, two full backs and two mid fielders. Here we are, the start of a new season and...for whatever reason...we still need all the same. I really wonder if Grayson knows how to coach a team defensively.... God help us if we carry on drifting

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I agree, its 1 game. We cant win every game. It was a poor performance granted but its a team game and individuals such as the manager cant be singled out as the problem. Collectively today we were rubbish but i trust the team and manager will pull together for bradford game and get a win in the bag.

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Don't talk a load of bs pal these players get paid to perform and they are not doing it, do you really think they are crying over there pay cheque right now, we have a right to gripe about the team and the management if things are not right which they clearly are not, I watched all the pre season friendlies and we really did not put a good game together, even the win over Newcastle was a gift even though the performance was slightly better, we pay good hard earned money to watch Leeds and have the right to tell it as it is, if you think for one minute that this team as it stands can win the championship or even finish in the top six your sorely mistaken, I will be the first to praise them when they earn there money and cheer the loudest when we win but it is clear to see that things are not right at Leeds United and it's about time people stand together and tell the truth, we are all kept in the dark with Bates and Grayson saying that they will only sign players that will improve the squad, can you honestly say we have done that?. It's a case of blatant profit making by the board paying out millions to improve a stand that at this moment in time does not need improving instead of putting the money back into the team, the only way this club will move forward on the playing side is when Bates buggers off and someone with passion about Leeds United takes over. Be successful on the pitch first then improve your ground to match the needs not the other way round. I am sick and tired of hearing how we are on the verge of signings that are going to improve our status on the playing side just to see old players and other clubs cast offs come in. So get real mate open your eyes and see whats happening and then carry on cheering and saying oh well never mind got beaten again well done boys better luck next time.

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Us critics are putting our money were our mouths are all the time mate. It goes in Ken Bates pocket. We support the team, you dont hear us out there booing them now do you. We come on hear to voice our frustrations. Alot of us have a clue about football and so dont have to wait to see what the season brings. We know what it will bring and it wont be the play offs or promotion. Grayson has 3 weeks to bring in the guts of a new defence and another defensive midfielder. On top of that we need a striker on loan. MOT

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And if we don't beat Bradford then what ? I think our defence will struggle to hold even Them .Oh well it was only 3 today

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Even if we beat bradford, what will that prove, what is certain is we are leeds and we are crap. to the idoits who post we where waiting for us to lose where we bollocks, we could just see it happening, and it wont be just once, it will be a lot this season, Div 1 here we come. the manager is idiot, its lick we have got this far, I know the bloke personally for many years, he doesnt have a clue. It was ok at blackpool but know him and bates are f***ing with my club and its not on.

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I couldn't say I would EVER want us to lose but I'll tell you what. I'd rather have a few really bad results now so that the handful of kids and know nowts that still whine on about everything is going to be fine and we have a great squad and isn't Bates wonderful because to pay a normal championship wage would be like going back to the Ridsdale era and all will be great if we just sing louder might actually get the message that Bates is raping OUR club.

If that finally dawns on them maybe there will be enough noise and protest to get the old b*stard out.

So yeah, a few bad results now, Bates out and someone who cares and is able to invest to come in might not be a bad situation. at least we'd be able to build for next year rather than the slow death that this year promises.

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06 Aug 2011 22:11:11
Poor today, we need a rb because connoly is useless obrien is pathetic left back still a big problem, not impressed with brown and never been a big fan of Clayton, our striker situation is as everybody knows not in good shape. grayson wants 2 more new additions looking at it we could do with 5

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11 by that performance

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Connolly is rubbish

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How to play football the Connolly way, lose all ability to defend, when have the ball just belt it up the park, pref to their keeper or out for a goal kick. Good dam SG wake up the boy is crap

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He's always been crap. that's why Derby wanted rid and why their fans pissed themselves when we signed him.

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06 Aug 2011 22:04:19
Anyone go to the game and see the man get arrested for jumping the fence and starting on the Saints fans lol. Also I know we didnt play to our potential today but the support was amazing singing all the way through even when 3 down. Bates out the message from the fans today no one blames Grayson at all connoly was awful and shoddy was too Clayton was a major positive today though easily better then Johnson. Big win Tuesday kick start our season MOT

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06 Aug 2011 22:02:55
Bates and grayson have to go, todays performance was one of the worst i've seen by any leeds team. The only player to play with any real passion was adam clayton. We are going knowhere with these two in charge. Grayson doesn't want to play any football, mainly long ball and no pressure applied by our midfield Bates doesn't want to spend any money, it's a complete shambles. Who agrees?

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06 Aug 2011 22:01:58
We lost our first game. There are 45 more games to go so why is everyone admitting defeat and thinking that we will get relegated. Give the squad time. Yeah we were very poor today but we will be back. Also a i think clayton was solid today. By far the best for us on the pitch.

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06 Aug 2011 21:53:04
After dissecting the televised raping of our beloved Leeds today, I feel only 2 players could hold their head high. Clayton was decent, distributed well when the movement would allow, and kisnorbo when we wasn't hampered by babysitting o'brien. O'b was diabolical and I truly feel for lonergan on his debut, resigned to booting it long to our vertically challenged front line, and, picking the ball put of the net after o'b's "masterclass". Surely now Grayson can try pursuad bates to part with some of the fans hard earned cash? Thoughts? Ed's thoughts and projections for the rest of the window would be eagerly anticipated.

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06 Aug 2011 21:50:15
wow, anyone would think we've been relegated after 1 game. Yes, bad result. BUT the better team won. All this match proves is that O'Brien isn't match fit, and we need cover for Becchio quickly. DON'T PANIC

ok, panic a little bit.

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By the time you and the happy brigade realise there is alot wrong with our team the transfer window will be closed and it will be too late. Enjoy the season.

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I'll stay in the happy brigade. you bitter idiots give our supporters their bad name.

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Those rose coloured spectacles will fade if we dont sign 4 or 5 quality players ... there is no chance we will so remember I told you

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"BUT the better team won" and that doesn't bother you?

That the team who have just been promoted were not just better but far, far better??

How old are you?

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06 Aug 2011 21:36:10
From Keeper to Defence to Midfield to Strikers, absolute shambles,the back four(disorientated)midfield(off the pace, disorganised)up front(non existent). The whole team seemed to lack any game plan at all,late reckless tackles,constant arguments with the opposition, team work non existent ,could go on all night,we are in deep s**t if this isn't sorted ASAP.

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06 Aug 2011 21:30:01
Awful awful performance. Connolly, Paynter, Brown, O'Dea all shocking today - and i'm being kind on a few others by not singling them out.

we are going to struggle this year - that Saints team aint great.

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06 Aug 2011 21:24:27
People need to stop singling out one defender as the fault for the loss today. Our defence is shocking, no defender covered himself in glory. Most of connelly and O'dea's best passes were the ones that went over the touchline. Our entire defence is a joke and needs urgent sorting, something which should have been done as soon as the transfer window opened. The happy brigade are shocked they can't believe what happened and their solution is to try to put fault on one player "because our defence cant be that bad can it".Well it is. The only positive I could take from the game today was that adam clayton and lonners looked decent. Micheal brown was a joke could have been sent off but that might have been seen as the ref giving us an unfair advantage. People thinking this is just a blip are in for a long hard season

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06 Aug 2011 21:09:26
Managed to get a word with Kisnorbo and Parker before they boarded the coach and they say it 's not a happy place to becat the mo. Ok Parker could be dour grapes, but why would Paddy complain. Anyway thanks for a s**t weekend and hundreds of pounds wasted boys

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06 Aug 2011 21:08:05
Maybe the loss today will open Graysons eyes and that he needs to bring is some decent players and maybe Bates will give him some money to spend long shot but might happen

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06 Aug 2011 21:00:44
How Andy O'Brien can play for Leeds is beyond me. I have NEVER EVER seen such a bad performance from a Leeds player.Ever. Hes not fit to wear the shirt I think the saying goes. Get O'Brien,O'Dea (who cant take freekicks) and Brown out of the team immediatley. They were all shocking, and if you notice Brown stormed down the tunnel when subbed. To everyone who thought we have a better team than last year, THINK AGAIN. We are far far worse hence the result today. On a better note, I thought Nunez,Clayton,Paddy & Howson were all very good today. Shame about our AWFUL defence. It was never Kasper we needed replacing, it was those donkeys at the back. 3 new defenders needed asap

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Yeah but all bar the 1/10th that went on Lonnie Donergan the money from Kasper's sale has gone into the transfer fund ( yeah right) just like it did when we sold Delph, Collins, Woods, Garbutt, Taiwo, Rose etc.

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06 Aug 2011 20:55:27
The bigger picture is the first line up was all wrong
Back 4 was ok but to many in the centre not enough control with 5 sgod av started with mc cormac and Nunez up front and had a few fesders

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You must have been watching a different game mate if you think the back four was ok. I would hate to think what the score might have been if the back four was poor(in your view) lol

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06 Aug 2011 20:54:38
watching sky,, Simon didnt look himself in pre match interview. He looked pissed off even then, think he knew we were not going to be good enough.This isnt the team he expected to be fielding, he has been let down by the owners and i wouldnt be surprised if he walked.Regarding the performance very disappointing , new signings didnt impress, Clayton however looked neat & tidy & Kisnorbo did his best on his own in defence, relegation candidates if we are not careful . Maxi also put in a good shift

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What do you mean hes been let down? what about the fans,he should have grown some balls and walked if Bates wouldnt back him,plus some of the players hes brought in arent up to the job,not just this year but last year too,dont think this regime will last much longer,hope not anyway.

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06 Aug 2011 20:52:54
Watched Leeds v Southampton tonight , we were absolutely poor, no defence, no midfield , no strike force altogther, sh**e. Come Bates spend some money and get some quality, u tight fisted g**.

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06 Aug 2011 20:48:02
NEED TO VENT OUR FEELINGS TO KEN BATES OR OUR CLUB WILL NOT ACHEIVE

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06 Aug 2011 20:36:43
Let's not get too carried away with just one result, first game of the season (remember Derby last year). Sure we never really turned up and got going and Southampton were twice the team we were today but we are Leeds and things will improve.
It is frustrating at the moment with the lack of investment but credit to a decent performance from Southampton, who with Cork and Lallana etc showed more quality and composure on the ball. P Connolly was awful and O'Brien wasn't at the races today (though he's just come back from an injury). Personally, O'dea looked like what he is today, a CB playing LB and while it's too soon to make drastic changes (he's only trained with the sqaud once so give him a chance to impress) he might be a good partner for Kisnorbo at CB (if OB's form doesn't improve). Paddy not back to his best but at least was pretty solid. Howson looked good, gradel and clayton grew into the game and showed some nice touches. Snodgrass looked off the pace (probs a lack of real preseason). McCormack had moments and his pace looked though it would cause some problems at the start of the 2nd half when we fleetingly got the ball down and passed it, but was then subbed. Paynter did himself no favours today and looked lethargic and uninterested for the most part.

Deffo need full back cover, (I see Connolly as a squad player at best, never a first choice RB) as SG seems reluctant to use White as LB so maybe he's not defensively ready. Early days, but maybe Luz can provide a little bit of physical presence up top to bring McCormack into the game whilst Becs is out.

I say we put today behind us and look forward to making ER a fortress next up. Mighty Whites MOT

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You forgot your name
Stevie wonder

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No disrespect to you buddy but come on with all the excuses. Worst I have seen Leeds play dice the hammering at cardiff. I don't understand how we knew how bad our defence was last year bur still no real changes. Very weak. Our attack looked rubbish. No movement at all. I don't understand why McCormack was upfront. Should of put him on the left and gradel up top. When we knew things wasn't working out we decide to put paynter ( donkey) instead if Nunez upfront. Makes me so angry. Sometimes I don't think Grayson installs enough fight in the team. Tactics completely wrong. Snodgrass was great two yes ago but doesn't seem interested. Think we need to teach him how to counter attack. So slow. The team needs a big rebuff and this should of been done before the season started. Will Leeds ever learn from mistakes or let them continue till it's too late. What do you think everyone and ed.

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Some of the 'excuses' make sense.

Neither O'Brien nor Paddy will be fully fit but there's no adequate cover for them so no choice but to play them. Similar with Snoddy but I suspect he knows he's leaving anyway.

O'Dea is a very average centre back but because we can't sign a proper left back we're trying to shoe horn him into his secondary position.

Having said that most of our squad full of cast offs aren't fit to wear the shirt and putting 'we are Leeds' in the middle of a post and putting 'MOT' at the end can't change that. You can't polish a turd and that's what KB has made us.

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06 Aug 2011 20:34:40
can this get worse that the worse ive seen leeds in 44yrs of watching them ffs Grayson grow some balls and tell santa WE NEED MONEY for players not freebies ...god i really hate saying this but bradford stand a chance on tuesday with that shower of s**te

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Worse than the tail end of Blackwell's tenure? not quite.

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06 Aug 2011 20:30:28
I don't like saying this but it does look like Grayson has either lost the plot of lost the confidence of his team?

Snodgrass was nowhere near up to the challenge of captaincy, and the new players were actually below average, only Gradel and Clayton played with any conviction?

I think this is going to be a long season, and todays performance leaves a lot to be desired.

MOT though, forever, good or bad

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06 Aug 2011 20:30:25
Billy Paynter is the white Emile Heskey - great post on FB

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06 Aug 2011 20:28:57
sell snodgrass that is what he wants, not worth keeping players who dont give a s..t get £5 million and BUY not loan or bleeding freebies buy 3 OR 4 players who want to play for us

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Mendy - the freebie from the mighty czech league will be the replacement when Snoddy is sold.

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06 Aug 2011 20:28:14
Just a thought, i went to farsley game this afternoon, grella played very well, why is paytner in first team before him.

Also Felix up front looked good, worth a punt, strong held up well good in the air, he also better than paytner.

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06 Aug 2011 20:20:03
Watching match on TV and it all came flooding back just how bad we can be. On a positive note, found a cracking Android game while it was going on...Pocket Soccer. Ken, you'd like it too, it's free and the players have as little technical ability as Leeds tonight. Still MOT

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06 Aug 2011 20:14:38
Boycott ER till bates and larry go

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06 Aug 2011 20:01:03
O'brien at fault for all three goals, kisnorbo didnt seem to know who he should be picking up but mainly cos of OB's awful positioning. O.dea and connelly did ok. lonergan played well and had no chance with the goals plus made some excellent saves. Snoddy looked injured. Grayson clearly unhappy and it will be interesting to see who plays v bradford.

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Erm..... Paul Connolly was blinkin awful

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Snoddy was s**t...connolloy not got a clue, never as had

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You must have been watching a different game than me, the whole defence was terrible. And paddy clearly at fault for third goal, the defence in a line except for paddy who clearly plays dave connolly onside. School boy stuff. For the first goal paddy is standing the wrong side of the player who he should be marking, if andy goes to go and close the player with the ball down sooner(hammond) he can then play a through ball to the player paddy is marking(badly). Without getting into it too much I dont see how you can blame one player for an entire defence that was/is shocking.

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06 Aug 2011 19:57:01
So were is the happy brigade then? Were is all the people who are saying our squad is better than last year. Were are all the people who were saying O'dea was a good signing. Were is the tool who was saying our squad is good enough for auto-promo. Were is all the people who were telling those of us who said the squad wasn't good enough to get a grip. Lets hear you If fact dont bother cos you know f**k all about football.

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06 Aug 2011 19:55:52
maybe todays dismal performance will make bates realise that with all the teams that have spent and the players that we have lost we will need to sign more quality to remain competitive in this league sign german hattrick hero and a new midfielder to replace clayton who is really only regarded as backup

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Have you looked at hatrick heros past, ok scoring against farsley this guy is another s**t free journeyman

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Spot on.

A hat trick against Farsley doesn't change why a player with a shoddy career is a free agent.

We (me included) so often get excited about a foreign nobody - Pierre Laurent, Frank Strandli, Seb Sorsa, Da Costa, Grella. Ok, we've also had Bechio and Yeboah but they at least had some sort of decent career before.

Nunez is being talked of as if he's a £5m player now after a season where he couldn't get into our team but did well for a few games in a terrible relegation bound Scunthorpe side. Mendy is another that's being talked up ridiculously - the guy has spent his careerin Czech football because nobody else wanted him

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06 Aug 2011 19:52:30
Grayson has pride.he really feels Leeds as much as all of us fans,I believe that,but his pride wont let him put up with these performances.I know for a fact that we went for 6 players and got not one of them we really wanted.it wAs money prob.as well as Johnson and bowyer nobody mentioned Liam ridge well.he would have come but we wouldn't go above9k a week.he was willing to drop but not to underhalf of what he was on.
So what now? I think we will sign another fringe type player before boro game.but if we only pick up odd point and can't sign dece t playersgrayson will quit.

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He should quit now,he stated"I wont buy players just for the sake of it,they must improve the squad",our defence was crap ALL last year, and ALL the fans realised we needed a complete overhaul,yet here we are with no improvements in sight,look at most of his loan signings,absolute rubbish most of them,look at his insistence of keeping faith with the likes of Paynter and Parker,they are blatently not championship standard,look at his refusal to bring cover in for our injured front two,we are going backwards,the great Leeds fans deserve much more than this,so come on all you investors,buy Bates out and lets rebuild from the top.

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06 Aug 2011 19:52:17
same useless defence 3 goals against,like I said before bottom 3 at Christmas unless Bates wakes up and invests or ships out simple

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06 Aug 2011 19:49:20
Just watched a very average if not poor performance from my beloved team against a Southampton side that did not really have to do a lot to get the victory they deserved today, Leeds were poor from back to front poor passing and lack of ideas from a midfield that will be way off the pace this season, if the board and Grayson don't do anything to address this situation I am afraid we may be watching first Division football again next season, One down within 10 mins because the defence was to slow to close down the danger, two down shortly after because of poor defending again from our left side, three down in the second half because the defence was again to slow to close down a player on his own inside our penalty area, all very poor goals from our point of view, it just seams to me that the players are not performing for Grayson at the moment maybe he has lost it. I hate being so negative but I cannot see a way forward with the present squad the way it stands it just comes down to three words " not good enough" as a supporter of Leeds for over forty years I am saddened to see the lack of ambition both from the board and the team as it stand something has to be done and done quickly or we can kiss this campaign goodbye. I would love to be more positive about my club but at the moment I cannot see anything to be positive about. Sorry to all my fellow Leeds supporters out there but as I say it is a sad situation at the moment at our club. And that is a fact I think anyone will be hard pushed to deny.

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Couldn't agree more I think we all know that bates is trying to get Leeds into the premiership on a shoe string budget and it's not going to happen we need decent players to add to our squad but he won't spend the cash as this will just eat into the profit he will make as he sells the club as a premiership team should we get there?

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Bollocks and that's what Leeds are f*** you ken bates you will destroy Leeds as a football team and Grayson get some nuts And fight him to get ate team where they should be

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I think the coaching staff need changing as sure;y not all our defenders are that poor. I think they are just badly advised and taught how to defend.

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Bates isn't interested in the premier league. Leeds United is just a toy for him, he can play monopoly, mouth off about everyone and everything and spend F*ck all on the team.

If we got promoted he'd have to pay out to the creditors he ripped off and it would expose him for what he is: a not very talented, not very popular, not very rich (as owners go) sad old man.

Fingers crossed for a very cold winter in Monaco.

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06 Aug 2011 19:48:36
THIS IS THE BEGINING OF THE END FOR BATE GET OUT OF OUR CLUB

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06 Aug 2011 19:46:59
I've just finished watching Leeds Utd and they were dreadfull.Andy O'Brien was the cause of first 2 goals.
I hope this is a blip,unless we buy quality players we are going to struggle.I hope Mr Bates watched with hi head held down(spend some money to give us a chance) also Billy Painter is a donkey.
We can only get better and put this display behind us.Grayson didn't even speak on Sky Sports after match i think they'll be gettting a roasting.

Come on Leeds

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06 Aug 2011 19:45:47
Felix LUZ 3 Goals on trial at Farsley ... BUY HIM NOW
forget the saints - we will bounce back MOT

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Don't make me laugh.I scored 2 against farley and I played for a decent Sunday team.he won't be good enough for the championship.Billy sharpe or good perm striker on loan

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We may bounce back but not with luz, another s**t freeby

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I could score 3 goals past farsley.

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Billy Paynter couldn't

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06 Aug 2011 19:36:55
What an embarrassing disgrace. The team had no passion at all. I have never been so annoyed with Leeds. Shocking

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06 Aug 2011 19:36:04
To every one who said we had improved the team since last season, where you watching ? only 3 of 11 where any good, greyson is in over his head, and bates just go you Ar5e

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One team does not a season make, and if you want to leave now, please do, you won't be missed.

Obviously you missed the opening game of last season, and you also don't realise why Southampton are on our league, it has nothing to do with ability?

Like us they had points deducted, and they have one of the strongest teams in the championship this season~?

We ARE going to struggle to get promoted, but I am LEEDS and always will be, who are you?

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06 Aug 2011 19:34:56
Please bring in some players worthy of wearing the shirt with a little pride
This lot don't deserve the support they get week in week out
Keth LUFC

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06 Aug 2011 19:32:14
Darren oh dear,odea Michael foul foul foul brown,Andy backache lonegran.you really improved us.bates out or Grayson to resign as no support.I told you so many times on here,all is not well.did it look well to you,bye bye snoddy and max,why would u want to stay.

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Must admit we were very lacking in places, and could do a lot bettER....

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06 Aug 2011 19:25:40
Urgently Required 8 new player, a manager with a backbone and a new chairman - Please contact Elland Road

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06 Aug 2011 19:25:32
Leeds were dire and an
embarassment. Grayson tactically
inept. Again playing without a
target man. Paynter is not good
but gives us better shape. Cant score to save his life as he showed. Snodgrass looked like he wanted to be somewhere else - awful.
Clayton not too bad. Howson not
bad but faded. O'dea is no left back but probably better than O'brian at centre back.
End of the day we have got the
greatest squad but could do better if SG knew his best team and what is needed to make it better

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O'dea is s**t full stop I said it when we signed him and I will say it again. Our defence is no better than last season and anyone who thinks they will improve with time needs their head examined.

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If Snod is fit he should be fined two weeks wages he should also be sold ASAP.

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06 Aug 2011 19:24:00
Only two players looked interested in todays game and that was gradel and clayton for me

snodgrass looked as though he didn't want to be there and same goes for mccormack. And o'brien and paynter was rubbish.

Hope bates can now see that our team is lacking real quality and puts his hand in them deep pockets of his MOT

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Yeah McCormack wasn't interested was he? i mean he only run after everyball and defended from the front, he just couldn't get 1 on 1 like billy did, otherwise he would have scored

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06 Aug 2011 19:22:42
one of the worst games i have seen it was as if we did not turn up

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06 Aug 2011 19:22:27
I'dea, looked worse than harte, Leeds looked awful. We didn't defend as a team. The only thing we had to sort from last season and we looked worse than ever. Paynter, I'm afraid to say has to go. He proved nothing last season, preseason or today. I hope we can turn this around. Mot

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06 Aug 2011 19:20:57
now the pain and suffering is finally over well done to all the lads who followed that s**t all that way not sure what you guys think but there looks to be on 3 or 4 players who actually want to play for leeds. I thought Gradel was superb and hats off for commitment. I would sell snodgrass tomorrow he didn't look one bit interested. Connolly as not changed from first day last day he is crap i think he needs about 4 players in of quality and trying to play howson upfront in a huge mistake. If we only have one wish its that paynter is gone asap or give a job a chief steward in the new boxes. he couldnt score in spearmint rhino how disappointing can take defeat if they give 100%%%

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06 Aug 2011 19:20:54
At least were not bottom

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06 Aug 2011 19:18:19
3 nil to Southampton, Just what we feared. High hopes low commitment. We seem to have the players no one else wants.


Great defence again. New season same problems.
McCormack is ok but no fantastic striker.
Brown didn't impress
Snoddy cant be bothered probably still hoping for premier football.

Le fondre, Billy Sharpe, good young premiership
defenders.

Lets sign Mendy and the german lad on trial

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06 Aug 2011 19:14:44
we r f***ing s**te. gradel and snoddy should have been sold cos they done f*** all. only 2 lads done any good today r clayton n kisnorbo

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06 Aug 2011 19:12:38
Wonder if Grayson still thinks we're a better team than last season? If he does then he definitely need to go as he's delusional.

Back four has been atrocious today, we might as well as not played any forwards either. All the talk of Paynter needing confidence, so he scores in the last friendly and gets benched then misses a sitter when he comes on. Only one who can come away with any semblance of praise is Clayton who fought hard but that's about it.

Ken and Simon must now see what everyone has been telling them that they need to invest in the club with QUALITY players, not 3rd choice keepers and over aged midfielders, and they are goin to have to start offering reasonable wages to attract the calibre of players we want but, more realistically, we need

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06 Aug 2011 19:03:39
Their full backs were better than ours. Richardson and Harding. OOPS

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I said on here the other week letting Richardson go was a big mistake by Grayson as he was the best since Kelly

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06 Aug 2011 19:02:11
Leeds all my life and have never had so lack of interest in the coming season ..........................................

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06 Aug 2011 19:01:51
What a joke Leeds united are we are so s**t Leeds united who?

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06 Aug 2011 19:00:47
One thing I can say,listening on tv ,the Leeds fans have been as usual Brilliant.. On the footballing side we've just not been at the races.

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06 Aug 2011 18:59:15
Other than Howson, I reckon we could pick a better 11 from the crowd today. At least they would play with their heart. Grayson I feel sorry for you. No backing means we will struggle. Brown, Clayton & Connolly shouldn't be 1st choice.

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Clayton was our best player

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I thought he had picked 11 people out of the crowd...and from the Saints fans at that

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06 Aug 2011 18:59:02
may as well sell snodgrass and gradel as they're doing f*** all against southampton. outplayed the whole game and definitely missing Bechio as mccormack is like balsa boy. o'brien unfit and poor, brown just wanting to nail anyone close to him. very poor display tonight and relegation candidates on tonights performance. no idea why nunez didn't start as at least looks lively.

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06 Aug 2011 18:57:51
Now will you f-----g believe us Grayson and Bates you t-----s

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Not Grayson bates

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Why do people keep thinking it's not SGs fault, he says he's happy with the squad he has, don't think he should be sacked tho'...sectioned maybe ;O)

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06 Aug 2011 18:56:09
Tonights performance is the worst i have seen in a a long time

O Dea = Not good enough
Brown = Not good enough
Clayton = Not good enough
Paynter = Not good enough
Lonergan = Not good enough

Sort this out Grayson and for christ sake Bates give him some money to spend

Bottom of the table is not where we belong

MOT

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You can't blame Lonergan for any of the goals and Clayton was our best player...

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Clayton did ok he was not fantastic, however he was at fault for the third goal

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06 Aug 2011 18:49:45
We are terrible

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06 Aug 2011 18:49:34
Just walked out of the southampton game oh my f***ing god
O'dea ? O'dear more like The defence is terrible why the hell is nunez not playing ? Clayton ? Terrible
Could of worked but no decided to spend 50 quid of petrol to go watch a f***ing disgrace

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06 Aug 2011 18:44:55
looks like my £100 bet is going to be a winner.....lol

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Im sorry I only stuck 20quid on

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Shame we scored as my other bet was 3-0 to southampton and i would have got loads.

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06 Aug 2011 18:44:35
roumer coming out of st marys is...PAYNTER has proved again he is garbage in front of goal

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06 Aug 2011 18:44:07
cant believe how poor were looking at the southampton game, embarrasing

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06 Aug 2011 18:42:50
Anyone know the Farsley score or/and the 3 trialists involved? Thanks in advance. MOT

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06 Aug 2011 18:41:55
Im not going to get at Grayson and bates because of the result today not great i know but it is only the first game of the season i think though that we just need strengthening at rb and cb and we need a loan striker we have no bite about us without becchio i would still like to see more of Nunez but Grayson knows what he is doing that is why he is a manager

On On On MOT

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06 Aug 2011 18:40:56
i see Lonergan is up to is old tricks

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06 Aug 2011 18:39:44
Simon Grayson needs sacked we losing 3-0 and the clown decides it's time to bring on a donkey(paynter) WTF  

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06 Aug 2011 18:36:00
ed dont think ull post this bates out bates out bates out

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06 Aug 2011 18:34:43
how f....g embarassing we have no chance with this team sell snodgrass not one bit interested

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I totally agree, cash in hes not interested, lonergan not a patch on kasper, o dea not good enough, mcormack cant play up front on his own and brown kicks everything apart from the ball things dont look good.

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06 Aug 2011 18:29:53
Fancied getting an idea for the attendance on Tuesday. Looked at ground selection on tickets and it's going to be the lowest ever by looks of it.........bad times. All kop is green swell as most of ground

Come on leeds

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06 Aug 2011 18:25:39
leeds united
if simon grayson seriously thinks our squad is better this season than last, he is a baffoon we look absolutely garbage today, second best all over the pitch, hopeless long ball tactics, no closing down, and if michael brown is going to play for our team he needs to sort out the rubbish he is performing at the moment....

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06 Aug 2011 18:20:43
After that 1st half performance,Grayson better have a good team talk,defence poor for the goals , Snodgrass and Gradel can't get into the game because there's nobody to hold the ball ip front.,hope I'm wrong but could get a good hiding if the formation doesn't change.

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06 Aug 2011 18:20:37
wot a load of s**te 1st half
Lonagen not interested
O Brian yards behind pace
Snodgrass not intrested
McCormack ?? did he touch the ball ??
Brown kicked evrything but the all
Clayton if hes a midfield player the smurfs are real
ffs kick the c**t out of leeds

ffs its gonna be a long hard season

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06 Aug 2011 18:18:14
sat watching the game between southampton and leeds, im a leeds fan, truth is we will struggle this season.... why.... this is why... no tempo no organisation when we are on the back foot second to every ball OB turns his back on the player every time he runs at us as he did for both goals and the chance just a minute later, no threat up front with needless long balls to little ross mccormack head high against defenders 6 foot plus micky brown will get so many cards this season he will cost us points he is a decent player but a total liability, we will do well to finish mid table this season we will struggle FACT

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06 Aug 2011 18:16:28
The defence is f**king crap AGAIN Doesn't look as though we have done anything to improve it other than presume Kisnorbo is going to solve all our problems. Brown looks out of his depth

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06 Aug 2011 18:16:19
well well now maybe all u so called fans who what bate here think hes the savior of our club get ready for league 1 bates will screw u and this clud over until hes gone join the chants BATE OUT

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06 Aug 2011 18:14:35
Half time obrien looks abit shocked to be playin while brown looks dangerous not in a good way positives clayton looks a neat and tidy player howson playin well and ross not doin to bad a leading the line wish becchio was playing o and think lonergan needs abit of work on his distribution 2nd half think we'll av em lufc

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06 Aug 2011 18:12:53
Half-time
same old Leeds, can't defend, what we've been saying since January
no ideas up front, McCormack is NOT a tarfet man so why oh why long balls,
come on Leeds change of tactics and defend the f*****g ball

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1 word- EMBARRASSING

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06 Aug 2011 18:09:29
watching snodgrass is embarrassing he looks bloody awful and not interested one bit

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06 Aug 2011 18:02:25
Bye bye Larry, you haven't a clue...good riddance

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06 Aug 2011 17:59:35
This is appalling, absolute rubbish, we look worse than last season, Andy better than Kasper? U sure Grayson? OB is past it, brown is terrible should be Playin rugby coz he can't play football, gradel n snoddy r over rated, and paddy doesn't look up to it no more, look a very poor team and I don't think the players brought in are the correct players as Grayson likes to put it, I seriously think mid table is a push playing like this this season, I know it's only the first game but absolutely shocking

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06 Aug 2011 17:59:10
On here just to keep my eyes off the leeds game :(

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LOL, WICKED COMMENT

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06 Aug 2011 17:59:04
My team is never gonna grace the prem again.mendy was instrumental in friendliest but we haven't bothered with him.Grayson will leave,no support from chairman.don't any idiots on here tell me not to be daft and show support.I love Leeds and spent a lot to watch them but I have a right to say we look poor,very poor,max looked ready to go to.shambles

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06 Aug 2011 17:56:30
watching game on sky,crap back 4 crap midfeild and no strikers get the money out bates or we are going to finish in bottom 3

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06 Aug 2011 17:55:23
omg i hope something drastic happens because we are relly poor we need to bolster up our squad and quick southapton are just ripping us apart

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06 Aug 2011 17:54:27
well watching this game and southampton are giving us a lesson, no forwards what so ever no chance of scoring if we carry on like this. 2 nil down defence is awful. if you listen on sky sports we are a laughing stock of the league and going nowhere. i know its first game but southampton giving us a lesson

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06 Aug 2011 17:54:21
Let's laugh at Leeds.we are embarrassing.it's gonna be a long hard season.only decent player we could have actually signed is mendy and where is he.
Time to put up orshut up Ken.one game ok but did we see anything of improvement.mmmmmmmmm no

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06 Aug 2011 17:52:23
28 mins into the Southampton game and it's more than 1 or 2 players we need just to stay up in this league
What a crock of s**t. Every time they go forward they look like they will score
Very worried

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06 Aug 2011 14:24:47
Does anybody know if Mendy has left the club. Not on the list going down 2 play Saints or in squad 4 Farsley. Do u know Ed ?
Keith LUFC {Ed001's Note - he is not currently at the club but contract talks are ongoing, don't know if he will sign or not though.}

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06 Aug 2011 17:51:20
I was the one who said Grayson would go.he will.I'm watching us currently 2.0 down after half hour.we are awful.what have we improved.this is a Southampton mid table if lucky team.Connolly awful,no striker.if we can all see it before we play why can't mr bates.something is seriously wrong.I hope by end of game we improve but this is what I feared,infect it's worse

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06 Aug 2011 17:49:43
Andy O'Brien was the cause of first 2 Southampton goals. tell me we don't need a new CB now

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06 Aug 2011 17:37:54
Brown is terrible all he can do is spear tackle people, think he should play for Leeds rhinos

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06 Aug 2011 17:36:05
9 minutes in and I can see a lots changed from last season then Grayson?

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06 Aug 2011 17:35:20
Where rubbish and gradel and snoddy are over rated, I'd have Kasper over Andy lonergan any day, defence still looks rubbish, yes I'm judging our team within 20 minutes for our first game

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Agree,and what will Graysons response be? hell put Parker back in,who couldnt stop a pig in a ginnel,our only hope is change at every level from Bates down,new owners with clout,a manager with nous,and begin to repay the best fans on the planet.

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06 Aug 2011 16:37:30
Anyone know who the trailists are? No point making it up we would just like to know who they really are. Anyone been to the farsley game?

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Apprantley its, ibrahim maaroufi,dennis grote, and felix luz, dont know how true that is mind

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Felix Luz - German Striker, scored a hat-trick. Also Dennis Grote Left winger crossed for all three goals. They both look like really good signingd. The central midfielder I didn't find out who he was called but didn't make much of an impact although he was tidy on the ball he was nothing 'special'

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06 Aug 2011 16:27:00
Just come back from the Farsley Game. Hat-trick from trialist felix luz. A very good target man. Sign him up SG he's as good as Becchio

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Got to better than Billy he was useless.....AGAIN

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06 Aug 2011 15:45:27
Does someone know summat... listening to sky sports and all the sky pundits dont expect Leeds to finish in top ten.? that on top of all the countries bookies who make Leeds a longer bet than both Brighton and Southampton - Also heard the interview last night with both the Southampton manager and Grayson...? Jeezus SG is a boring tw*t with no enthusiasm - he says Leeds over-achieved last season and achieved above expectations finishing 7th... In contrast the Southampton manager says it will be a disaster for this club not to be in the Premiership.. we will be going for 3 points against Leeds and pushing for automatic. Wonder why players never sign when the manager shows little ambition

Prove me wrong - if Leeds get 3 points today i will apologise

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At half time mate I ' ll show my a*** on the town hall steps if we get anything from this game. Lack of investment is already coming home to roost.

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What a pile of s***e no passion no fire no idea relagation is on the cards on that performance.

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The performance tonight must make you question Grayson, Bates,Leeds transfer policy and his insistance on playing Paynter,which other manager,having his main strike force out of action,would not replace them,at least on short term loans,an average team made us look poor,time to stop all this in Grayson we trust crap,Ollies built a good looking side,Jewel has,I would argue that every other side with premier ambitions has acquired better players than we have,last year we had the best attack and worst defence,we STILL have the worst defence,and without Becs and Somma,the worst attack,ffs Grayson get some quality players in.

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06 Aug 2011 14:02:09
Y are leeds predicted to fimish ninth when there improved the team from last year and also y are southampton tipped to finish above us as we had a better yeam last year and theu have only bought two peaple

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If your watching you can see.we were awful

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You'll probably have your answer now after that performance.

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06 Aug 2011 13:53:48
Maaroufi (midfielder), Arce (midfielder and left back), Mendy (Wideman and forward).
3 trialists.
Wether there is another on top if Mendy, I do not know, i hear Mendy will definately be signing for Leeds on a two year deal. A host of clubs are queuing up for Arca, dont know much about Maaroufi, bit of a journey man.

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Why would arca need a trial? I very much doubt he's one of the 3 that played today.

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Mendy is supposed to be back in France according to YEP.

They list trialists at Farsley as Maaroufi, Felix Luz & Dennis Grote

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06 Aug 2011 13:05:31
Max Gradel will be on the move to West Ham shortly.

West Ham will move on Scott Parker to Arsenal and free up their move for Gradel.

Bates will claim it was too good an offer to refuse and point to the fact Gradel was wanting far too much to renew his contract.

This is alos the reason Mendy hasn't signed yet - this will only go through when Gradel goes.

Sad times - Bates Out

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06 Aug 2011 12:31:23
Just heard Adrian Durham on TalkSport tipping Leeds for RELEGATION In his "expert" opinion, Grayson will have lost the dressing room because of Twittergate, players in last year of contracts will cause unrest, and we ended last season so badly that we're gonna struggle this season What a fool I personally think we probably won't go up this season, but relegation? I think we'll be well clear, 9th or 10th IMO. Let's send him some abuse, the ginger, Peterborough supporting wally.

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06 Aug 2011 11:40:32
The only player Leeds will sign is Mendy, we might get a last minute loan deal for somebody close to deadline day too. Let's get behind the boys today

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06 Aug 2011 11:38:42
Come on LEEDS,Lets stuff the Saints today

We love ya Leeds Leeds leeds leeds

MOT

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06 Aug 2011 11:32:12
Leeds, Kids, Car and wife in that order
Come on Leeds

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LOL
Hope uve given a false name

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What about some beer.

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Not left you name good choice ur nads are safe ahaaa

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I'm luckier than that as kids have left home & I'm divorced so it's

LEEDS, LEEDS, LEEDS ;-)

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06 Aug 2011 11:30:30
Alan Smith's a w**ker, he f**ked off to manu,
but we don't give a F**K, cos we've got Maxi Gradel and Snoddy too

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06 Aug 2011 11:28:07
Oh Maxi Gardel, you are the love of my Life,
Oh Maxi Gardel, I'd let you Sh@g my wife,
Oh Maxi Gradel, I wish I could play Football like yoooouuu

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06 Aug 2011 11:26:21
Come Leeds batter them saints this afternoon, make this league sit up and think, remember, who we are. WE ARE LEEDS

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06 Aug 2011 10:38:45
The 3 trialists are confirmed as Ibrahim Maaroufi a CM ,and 2 Germans CF is Felix Lux and CM Dennis Grote. This from the YEP (Yorkshire evening post).

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Dennis Grote is interesting but really not sure about the other two

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I agree, on paper other 2 look a bit shaky Luz as a striker seems to have a worse record than Billy & Maaroufi seems to have an attitude (says he'd only play for Morocco U21 if they made him Captain)

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I whent to the game this after noon, Lux looked very good best player on pitch along grella also looked well. the other two trialists very poor not good enough.

Lux did well, strong good in air good on the ground brought other into play. he worth a punt.

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06 Aug 2011 10:18:50
i defiantly think that becchio will struggle to get into the team this season its paynter's and Mccormack's season to dominate

|MOT - The only way is up|

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Dont talk stupid, McCormack cant even score a penalty, Paynter can't hit a barn door

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Early drink mate ?
Snoddy and Gradel play there best footy when Becchio is in the team
He holds the ball up well and also brings Howson into the play
Paynter will start today,but he is to sluggish and struggles to score.
McCormack i am still unsure about even though he did play well at the end of the season
Becchio and Somma main men
MOT

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When fit Becchio would be 1st name on my team sheet,good luck to Paynter and I hope he makes the most of his chance,he's just nowhere near as good as Beccs.

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R u off your head ? do u no anything about football? i worry about some people
them 2 could,nt lace becchios boots u buffoon get a f##king grip

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06 Aug 2011 09:11:43
Leeds utd team to play Southampton. This team is very strong all over the park add Sam, Clayton, Mendy, Parker, Bruce. To the bench and we let's not forget Becchio and fingers crossed maybe Quinn we are on the right road.

Just a pointer boys O'Dea is a full internation played in champions league against AC Milan and the great Maldini said what a player.


Lonergan
O'Dea
Kisnorbo
O'Brien
Connolly

Gradel
Brown
Nunez
Howson
Snodgrass

McCormack

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Only 5 on bench this season,no reserve keeper ?
Parker,Clayton and Paynter to start instead of O;Dea Nunez and McCormack

Grayson loves Paynter in a footballing way LOL

MOT

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Sound good to me,just need another cm with a big set of b######s to protect the back 4..

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Nunez and howson ??? clayton 4 nunez

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06 Aug 2011 08:30:36
Just an Idea, but as i am not 100% we will up there this season, signings and how good other teams are. Why don't we just play some of the talented kids we have, then by next season, they may be talented and experienced. Plus having the Turner Twins would confuse the saints

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06 Aug 2011 08:13:56
Anyone know who the 3 trailist are?

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06 Aug 2011 07:55:09
Good luck to Leeds United at Southampton today,same to all fellow supporters for the season, let's have some positive posting on here today.We all love Leeds.

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Smith to sign next week good source

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06 Aug 2011 00:31:42
I reckon any possible new signings will be in the dug out watching tomorrow? and i think SG has more up his sleave than he is letting on MOT

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Well said, were leeds and we must support our team..

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06 Aug 2011 00:12:09
Don't shoot the messenger but I hear Smith, Quinn, Montgomery, Lichaj, Carew, Phillips, Mendy, Jlloyd Samuel, Ferguson, Barton, Woodgate, Bowyer and Keane are all to sign in the next 48 hours... All of those rumours have come from this site as well. Not putting the site down, after all it is a rumours website and some 16 year old's don't like doing homework.

Nobody really knows what's happening behind the doors at ER, KB is a sneaky motherfluffer and so is SG. They will have something planned for LUFC so let's get behind the current squad and the current management team and look forward to an interesting season ahead. MOT

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06 Aug 2011 00:05:07
Just remember. When every game last season when everyone thought, me as well, it was always johnsons fault. Everyone could see he was awful. Now he's gone everyone's complaining. Same with kilkenny. Glad to see back of them both. Need to get behind the lads and not criticise them until they have worn the White shirt. Here's to a great season. MOT

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Well said our returning players (clayton and nunez from loan_sam from injury) are far better than johnson and killkenny. either of our new keepers will make less mistakes than schmiekel and we have kisnorbo back too. even not including our other new signings we have a stronger team than last year. the loss of somma will not be too bad as he was only a bit part sub and can be covered.becchio is the real loss but he will be back soon and we did beat burnley and qpr without him.so here is to a successful new season.

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Bradley Johnson.

Loved by fans due to that goal against Arsenal and some other long range screamers he it. Was a decent passer of the ball but also ill tempered and couldnt be trusted not to get a 2nd yellow when he gets booked first. Prone to attempting his long range drives when there was a better passing option. Usually they went into orbit rather than the back of the net. Good riddance to him. He wanted the money, let the mercenary go.

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05 Aug 2011 23:31:57
Good luck this season from the celtic bhoys

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And back to you, let's hope O'Dea helps us out Not swapping him for Snoddy though,

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05 Aug 2011 22:20:36
I Think Southampton Are Gonna Get Destroyed.
Marchin On Together.
Leeds, Leeds, Leeds

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2-1 leeds
gradel and paynter

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05 Aug 2011 21:40:04
Grayson to resign for constantly lying about signings that never materialise....

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Get a grip fella [idiot]

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Graysons hands are tied,Bates is the man with the money
I can see issues behind the scenes at management/boardroom level
Lets see how the season pans out and get behind the lads
Mendy could be a real find

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Also bates was the person who said 4 players by the end of the week about a month back not Grayson get a grip

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05 Aug 2011 21:35:46
Any 1 know who the 3 players that are on trial with us due to play farsley

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05 Aug 2011 21:03:50
sorry prest wrong button.

lw-snoddy
cm-brown
cm howson
rw-gradle

st-nunez
st- McCormack

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05 Aug 2011 21:01:04
Why are people obsessed with Monty and Quinn? They r crap Grayson would Neva buy either of them, sick of hearing their name everyday on here, I give every Leeds supporter £1 if we sign either of them 2

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05 Aug 2011 20:59:30
were all thinking the same,no real signings
but when you think what we started with
last season you'll be happy,we need a left back
and another cm with a set on b#####s and maybe a loan striker,apart from this are side isn't that bad with 3 trialist playing tom orroww who we don't no,but be positive,we lost to Derby at the start of last season to a stupid penelty and look where we finished 7th,the squad is ok a little young in places but still alot bether than others,

gk-lonergan

rb-connolly
cb-o'brien
cb-kisnorbo
lb-parker or o'dea (depending on sg plans

lw-snoddy

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Well said, i take it the rest of the team you quoted is above..

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