Leeds Banter Archive July 06 2016

06 Jul 2016 21:40:23
Rob Green. Did anyone see that one coming?
Experienced keeper, quality signing.
MOT.

06 Jul 2016 22:05:04
I cannot stand rob green although tbf I don't know him personally. BUT. What an excellent signing. I said earlier we should get him. A keeper who will command the box and should cut out those defensive uncertainties.
Ekstrund and Osman next 👍😎.

06 Jul 2016 23:48:23
Remember the goal he let in when playing for England against the USA!

06 Jul 2016 21:27:17
Welcome Rob Green, may your time with us be a successful one.

06 Jul 2016 21:56:58
May his time be laden with sheets which are clean.

06 Jul 2016 22:33:12
Ha ha ha 😂 nice one George! Have to say Where did that come from! 😂.

06 Jul 2016 22:41:15
DJ
It came from a rare moment of wexlessness.

07 Jul 2016 00:30:08
Lol Georgy boy, glad you used a W instead of a S Wexy would have been offended although I'd like to know all the banters definition of Wexlessness? Wex lad you can have the final say! 😂 😎.

07 Jul 2016 01:32:51
DJ

Here's my definition

Peace, tranquility, zero harassment.

07 Jul 2016 12:36:44
George yesterday you claimed I always attack your posts when I haven't even posted, today you start again your obsession with me is funny maybe you should take my picture away from your bed and peel yourself from your sticky sheets and get some air another note you must be pleased with transfer activity.

07 Jul 2016 12:39:43
DJ I always have the final say with George, how can I put this you see George has always been premature 🙍.

06 Jul 2016 18:22:19
Think we might have a good season if we bring in a few more players . Looking at how we did under Evans and the quality of the squad he had . A proper defence and Forresteri would have seen us top 6 last season . Just that little bit of extra attacking quality and be difficult to score against. Look at Brighton and Weds. I would say 4 or 5 more players which we look like we are trying to recruit, a little bit of time to gel and we will be in the mix. Still think we have most of our transfer kitty to spend .

06 Jul 2016 23:43:31
Sick of hearing about Forresteri! He didn't want to sign for us! Get over it!

07 Jul 2016 00:50:26
We should get Almen Abdi in from Watford. He was their best player in the Championship and kept Forestieri out the team. That's the type of signing that turns you from also rans to contenders.

06 Jul 2016 10:37:51
I go to my business partner and tell him we need to invest £10 mill to compete properly with our competitors. I say I want £2mill from him as his share. He says no so I say ok I will buy you out, give you your initial £10 mill investment back and give you market value for your shares £10. He says hold on if you invest the company could be worth three times what it is now so I want £30mill for my shares and £2mill interest on my investment. So from £20 mill that's gone to £42mill. I allready have £50 invested so that makes a total outlay of £92mill if I buy him out. The business as it stands is only worth £40mill what should I do.
What I would do is invest my £8mill in one of my other businesses that is guaranteed a return, let my competitors know I am willing to sell my shares if they are wiling to work with an incumbant partner in this company and carry on as normal and hope we unearth a new product that improves our worth. or some of our competitors struggle. Our customers may not be happy as we are not as competative as our rivals and we may lose some.
That is Leeds at the moment and if we were a viable investment with success just around the corner money men would snap us up. We are not. These paid up Cellino hating posters need to face reality. With GFH in the background we will not be spending big money on players or their wages.
That does not mean we cannot compete, we have a good management team, young talent in Viera Phillips, Taylor etc. We need to buy shrewedly and maybe we get lucky with one. Fact is if we finish in top 10 we will do well, with some luck maybe top 8 competing for a play off spot. I will still put my ton on at Corals for us to get promoted because there is always the chance. Football is always about the dream, big money buys do not guarantee it. Look at Shef Weds paid fortunes for players and we are still playing them next season.
We are Leeds we fight mot.

06 Jul 2016 13:19:12
BIGE

You make some valid points, and yes we're in a mess regarding finances. However, Cellino entered into an agreement with GFH effectively making them a silent partner. Cellino is now wanting another agreement. GFH have an agreement where they put nothing in to the football club and because of the way they ran the club, we still owe them £17 million. Once again Cellino has agreed a plan to do so over a period of time. Why would they bother to put money into the club when they don't care how we perform as long as we pay them the money there owed? This plan is going to take money out of the club for the next 15 years. This is why Sports Capital pulled out of buying the club. You would have to be an idiot to enter into an agreement like this, enter Cellino. For all those who want Cellino to buy there shares have to see, we will not rid ourselves of them by doing so. The only way to rid ourselves of them quickly would be to win promotion, the amount of wealth we would gain through this would IMO be worth it to be rid of such a parasite. A promotion push has to financed, Cellino is showing that he is unable or worse, unwilling to fund such a push.

06 Jul 2016 13:29:52
Agree with you BIGE but GFH's investment ain't worth any more than what they paid for it unless they can add value i. e. promotion . They ain't getting promoted without investment hence a Catch 22 . They will have to invest to add value or take a realistic price to move on. Their current position is not good for them as there is no increased return on their investment.

06 Jul 2016 13:35:03
yeah but surely you can't put a price on something based on what may or may not happen in the future? if the 10 mill is not invested we stay where we are and the share price stay the same or lose value.

06 Jul 2016 13:36:46
Totally agree, business is business, you put your money in and take your profits out. We might not like it but that's life.

06 Jul 2016 14:18:39
It is clear that the financial position at the club is not good but would have been improved if not for the following:

Macron £3.5m
Cameron Stewart £800k
Nigel Gibbs £330k
Lucy Ward £132.5k.

06 Jul 2016 15:11:38
You miss the point PA. Their share price is not the main issue. By the time they sold to Cellino, we owed them £20 million, mostly for consultancy fees, which they fixed the price. Cellino has agreed to pay them the £17 million we owe them, they have already received £3 million from the RMCC transfer, either when we are promoted or between 2019-2032. As regards the share price, shares are like any other commodity, worth what someone will pay. They are in a strong position, if we win they win big, if we lose they still win.

06 Jul 2016 17:41:48
And problem is GFH investors do this regularly. Invest money long term. Its pocket money for them. They buy properties usually in capital cities, rome, london etc. They know property prices rise in major cities every year so they will sit on an empty property for upto 5 years before selling on. They will not improve rent or let it. They are not interested in investing in the community just investing. First time I have seen it happen to a football club. Their short term investors went when cellino bought in. Long term investors left, GFH need to make them big money or lose face. Answers on a postcard please.

06 Jul 2016 18:19:29
Spot on BIGE. This is exactly what GFH do. They have bought numerous properties in London and this was always theit plan for us. Said before this is what the football league should look at. It's not illegal, but totally imoral and we've been Morgaged to the hilt. As long as we owe them money they won't sell their shares and even if we go up the value of them rise, so it looks like we're stuck with them lon term.

06 Jul 2016 20:51:16
And who put us in this position by selling to GFH?
mmmm let me think.

06 Jul 2016 02:34:20
Without doubt Garry Monk is a positive in his new role as Manager of our once great football club and Cellino who isn't great has loaned a couple and bought one at least.
However does anyone believe we are really going anywhere this season.
Looks like it's the same old.
We desperately need a new owner with money to invest and I mean a lot of money.
Don't get me wrong Cellino has cut the bleeding however there must come a time that an owner shows serious intent but I can't see a lot.
Is he just waiting for the outcome of the next court case or more likely has the cash run out?

06 Jul 2016 04:30:09
Cork and Wex and probably other paid posters think we are going to play like Brazil this season. Ausman thinks we are better than the Wendies.

They must be right Survivor old chum.

06 Jul 2016 05:59:03
Survivor I don't think Cellino has got enough cash to spend on quality signings, even if he is rumoured to be worth 700 million, Antonsson looks to have some quality hence 1.5 - 2 mil price tag, the other 2 loanees are a hopeful punt that they may possess some quality, but don't hold your breath, I'm not convinced we will do any better than last season unless he spends at least 10 mil on another 4 quality championship proven players, but I don't think he has that spare cash and GFH certainly don't, it would be a shame as I think GM, Pep and his staff are clued up and would give us a chance this season if they are given the right tools to play with, let's hope the 3 he has scratched around for so far are Sharp enough, the only plus for me is they look to have been recommended by Garry and Pep and I do trust their judgement, Definitely not Cellinos, I await to be Convinced, peace fellow leeds optimists!

06 Jul 2016 11:21:19
George. Most people get about a sentence into your post realise it's you and skip on your becoming irrelevant.

06 Jul 2016 11:46:28
Oh Jeff you and Cellino were once such big buddies. What on earth happened? Does he not take your calls anymore or does the restraining order prevent you from trying to make contact? Prat

MM.

06 Jul 2016 12:12:55
Really wex? Was going to say the same thing about you.

If this site had an ignore filter button I'd have pressed it for you long ago.

06 Jul 2016 13:21:44
now now gents. play nice.

06 Jul 2016 13:44:41
Alf

Your request inapplicable for wex. He's not a gent.

Wex launches scathing attacks on me personally just because my opinion different from his.

06 Jul 2016 14:45:01
With u wex. I actually check name at bottom before even starting reading. If it's u know who. Just don't bother anymore. Like survivor and my ex sssssssss. Over it.

06 Jul 2016 15:44:40
George you say I launch attacks on you but it is you who mentioned me in this thread. It's just your obsession with me. Really I'm just someone you envy.

06 Jul 2016 19:49:33
Yes wex, I often think how I wish I was really you.

06 Jul 2016 20:33:48
The world would be a nicer place for you George.

{Ed003's Note - think we should chill now and get back to football tbh guys.}