Leeds Banter Archive March 08 2018

08 Mar 2018 20:29:27
Said at the start of this season the players bought in were not good enough to complete in this league and for saying I took lots of stick from many on this site, now it's there for all to see, Radz is ok but don't have the knowledge and it seems the money to fund what is needed to get us out of the league, he needs to call in other investors with the funds now,

08 Mar 2018 21:37:17
Whites, I agree with most of what you say in most of your posts, but I am still inclined to give Radz a while longer. I think that he has massively mismeasured the situation regarding Orta, who to my mind is the cause of most of our woes, but I still believe that he will jettison him and we will move onward n upwards. O think that Radz is naive, but will pull through. However, Orta is a complete lactating t1t!

08 Mar 2018 22:37:00
Whiteman, I've said it many times before, and will say it again; you have your opinion, which is your right, and I have my right to disagree. The simple basics of reviving a failing business, even in football, is to get it on the right financial footing first, which is what Radz has done. The next step for us is next season, and seeing what he delivers on the pitch. We are still in the best position we have been for 15 years, thanks to Mass and Radz. If we don't move forwards on the park next year, I'll be the first to jump on your bandwagon!

09 Mar 2018 09:50:06
Its good we all have differing opinions. Its what makes the world go round. But i think if you look back over the last 5 years I've been posting. My opinions are always right.

09 Mar 2018 10:44:29
I find that hard to believe Aussie. I have been posting MY opinions and they are always right!

09 Mar 2018 14:29:05
I think you must just copy mine mate. We both right!

08 Mar 2018 16:43:05
Samo agree, hopefully last night the penny dropped with Rads and he now knows the problems that need Sorting and its Orta who needs Outing . So to coin a new word in the English language for the removal of a Director of Football " Orting" Definition of Orting : the dispensing of the services of a Director of Football called Orta

08 Mar 2018 15:43:53
I see so many posts hammering Orta but we have three other people who should stand up and be counted. Chief Scout, Head of European Recruitment and Head of Football Development (Asia) . Surely one of these should unearth a diamond. What about a Jermaine Beckford in Korea or even the JLeague. Ideally people are calling for a grizzled English campaigner but there are a few usefull Japanese/Koreans succesfully plying there trade around Europe surely we can discover more than just Ideguchi.

08 Mar 2018 16:19:19
Is Ideguchii any good?

08 Mar 2018 16:43:30
Not sure never plays much but he is a step into the Asian merchandising business, a chinese and saudi player will be good for business too.

08 Mar 2018 18:32:43
Don't know if he is any good Giles but if he is halfway decent and gets a run of games he will pay for himself in shirt sales alone. You have a point there Bige somewhere in the Gulf states there is a player to be found and if he takes off so do your media rights stream.

08 Mar 2018 20:11:25
leodis. They were all bought in by Radz so he should be top of the list, he needs to come out and say what he’s going to do now to fix the massive problem that his team have created. Time is running out

08 Mar 2018 13:40:45
Ok. My feelings are. Sack orta. I can't believe we are here. So much hope at start of season. So much radz promise of better than last year. Sack orta. Radz is a nice guy. ( heard that one before a la tc ) . But begining to think he is a cheap skate and will be undone by this. i'm willing to give heck a chance to eo season cause no point changing now. Sack orta I think he needs to blood younguns. Well done for dropping wield by the way. So to radz. Firstly, sack orta. Secondly. Sack orta. Thirdly Spend real money on players that can get us out of this league in next two years. That will cost you a fair bit because they will need to be good champ standard players. Sack orta. As far as what we got and what we need. I've always been a fan of a little tweak here and there. But we need. No 1 goalie. 2 starter cb. Janson pennington and cooper are not good enough. Yep. All three are rubbish. Keep berahdi in first team and captain if you like. Never let anita near a leeds shirt again. Saiz. Forshaw and dallas can stay. Dump the rest. Sack orta. Errrrr. Hernandez ok as sub. Errrrm. Lose the rest. So that's 4 first teamers. Need 7 good new players. that's about 25 -35 mill. If you had sacked orta. Youd prob have that.

08 Mar 2018 14:00:27
Ok Ausman, I see your point. Just out of interest, what's your stance on Orta though?

08 Mar 2018 20:01:46
I really hate it when people sit on the fence Aus. What do you REALLY think?

08 Mar 2018 12:52:41
Whilst I am not against going out and spending big on a football playing, mobile, brick wall of a Centre Back I wonder if some of the U23 stars can be looked at. The likes of Paudie O'Connor and Ouasim Bouy. Not forgetting that we have Shaugnessy who has already shown he can do a job in a back four. I am not saying flood the team with kids but for instance Pennington is not an old hand and is called on regularily. Hecky have a good look at a few and possibly save your boss a few million - that he can spend elsewhere.

08 Mar 2018 13:12:31
Very few if any make the grade up and be good enough to stay there Radrizanni and Orta have gone for quantity rather than quality he's embarrassed the club again coming out with a statement like that about Wolves, Wolves invested in the summer and did it right by getting quality still no apology then Mr Radrizanni for hiring Orta thought not your like two peas in a pod three if you include Kinnerton.

08 Mar 2018 09:30:59
As said previously we need LB, CH, DM, 2 wingers and a striker all first choice and of Prem quality . We need to bed them in with the best of what we have to make a team and keep the best of the rest to use as squad players to cover fatigue injury and suspension. Its not that difficult, we could all do that job and do it better than Orta has.

08 Mar 2018 09:49:30
I agree with the sentiment PA, but what Prem Quality players are going to want to come to a "bottom half of the table" Championship club? For example, I work in IT for a very large financial organisation. If someone said to me "Do you want to go and look after the IT for a local secondary school for a pay drop" I'd have to say no. It may be less stress and less pressure, but I still wouldn't do it. (for reference, I used to look after IT in a large local secondary school, so I'm not decrying that job! )

08 Mar 2018 12:01:47
Any "prem league quality" do not necessarily have to be playing in the Prem. For less money we could go for the quality in L1 or even L2. if we scout properly identify, only the very best, then pounce. No dithering. Whether they are L1,L2 or even from abroad, it does not matter. so long as are scouting team, and Hecky all agree. Go get him. The only time Orta needs to get involved is at the very end to sort out the contract. Hopefully, of course, all this is unnecessary if some of his "ones for the future" blossom over the next few months.

08 Mar 2018 13:53:19
My point wasn't really about the club pouncing on properly scouted resources. My point was that the Prem Quality PLAYERS (regardless of where they're currently playing their football) don't WANT to come to LUFC. We're not an appealing prospect, unless you include journey-men, but I don't want any more of those thanks.

08 Mar 2018 07:58:44
The senior management need to take responsibility for the team. We have tried another manager (hadn't heard of him till now) and another not making a difference. I don't think it is a managers problem. I liked TC. You can't make a silk purse out of a Pigs ear. The Manager should know who to recruit. How Frustrating.

08 Mar 2018 09:01:52
Orta needs to take responsibility for this shower of sh1te. It’s not hecky’s, radz’s or anyone else’s team. Ok radz signed the cheque but Orta must have gone to him and convinced him that the players are worth buying

08 Mar 2018 07:31:15
Did you see the look on Radz and ortas faces sat next to each other towards end of game lol utterly naffed off and looked like rads was about to end their relationship, think ortas was the realisation of just how poor his signings have been, Radz was probably sat there thinking where the hell am I going to get the money to buy a team like wolves😁 on a side note fair play to young Bailey thought he showed more than enough to warrant a run in the team, GET RID of Wieldfeld de bock, cooper, philips, Okane, Pennington, grot, lossaga as he won't stay anyway, ekuban maybe alioski, and most of all ORTA! Bad apple IMO i'd keep Dallas for squad invest in no nonsense hardened Championship players or PL quality players for the spine and pace pace pace on the wings it really is that simple peace fellow leeds sufferers see you at reading for a good day out and if i'm lucky some decent footy 😎

08 Mar 2018 10:59:55
Really? 4 games and you want rid of de bock? And didn't the keeper make a cock up for 3Rd goal? And before you say he made some good save so does weidweild. Keeper would have been in ages ago if he was good enough. Sent home not good enough for York but ok for you DJ after novelty wears off youll all be wanting him shipped off as well

08 Mar 2018 12:27:26
What BPF did show us was that he is no worse than Felix and as such should be given a run to see if he can catch crosses and command his box. As for De Bock he has shown how bad he can be. It is up to him now to convince Hecky, on the training ground, everyday that it was a blip and he can be solid and the answer to our problems. If not then as top 6 is now long gone let's blood one for the future. The only reservation I have against that is that he needs an old head at CB to talk him thro the first few games and if necessary a left winger to drop back and protect him. Can't think of a suitable CB and the only winger I would trust is Dallas.

08 Mar 2018 12:55:52
Nah seen enough to know he's not going to be good enough Martyn! You didn't see the derby game then mate? Woeful doesn't even come close and says something when hecks has dropped him completely from the match day squad! Regarding BPF he looked more comfortable in one game than wieldfeld has in 20 in my opinion fella yeah he's got a lot to learn but he's only 21 and has potential wether he will keep the no1 jersey remains to be seen so i was pleased for him, he could nt do anything about first 2 goals as poor defending in front of him maybe came rushing out for third but we were beaten by then! And it would have been 6 if not for the fine saves he produced! So hope he continues to get better and more experienced with more game time, good luck to the lad i say

08 Mar 2018 14:21:48
See what he's like after 5 games then when the first game syndrome wears off

08 Mar 2018 15:20:32
Bit harsh on the lad Martyn, 1 thing I definitely know and that is felix is NOT good enough wether the young lad proves to be also is irevelant, wieldfeld is a liability! can't punch, kick, catch, command his box, scared stiff of contact he's a nervous wreck anyone who says different needs specsavers imo yeah but what about his 10 clean sheets i hear you say! I say he had nothing to do and better defending in front of him, I would rather have one of our own
In goal with potential to be coached into him all the things that wieldfeld quite clearly lacks 😁

08 Mar 2018 06:09:15
Something has to be done. Radz is the main owner and it is beyond doubt that you generally get what you pay for; LUFC simply has to invest in quality players. This obviously requires the funds in the first place plus a skilful scout. And i suspect we have neither. If we had exceptional skill in scouting and managing then very occasionally a team can defy the odds if having modest funds. And it seems beyond doubt that we don't currently have that sort of skill in scouting. Quality players left (Wood, Taylor, amongst others) and simply were not replaced. And cracks seem to appearing in Board management, if perhaps that is less obvious than scouting for now. This is not looking good - something has to be done.

08 Mar 2018 06:27:49
Totally agree, something has to be done. Guess it hard for fans to take as we were top of div after 12 games and we didn’t look like conceding and had attacking flair. What huge difference from first 12 games to last 12 games of season.

08 Mar 2018 09:03:51
Orta our, that’s what needs to be done

08 Mar 2018 05:52:59
Wolves are a very good team, they close down well and attack in numbers and pass the ball well. Tonight was the first time in along time i wasn't upset we lost, playoffs had already gone and I just hope this run shows owners have far we have regressed. Rads needs to stop tweeting about wolves and worry about lufc, sack Orta and invest big time, should have also gone for a higher profile manager (Silva) . I don't think PH is a bad manager and feel even pep would struggle with this shower, but think Silva would've had us playing more attacking style and also be able to bring in bigger signings next season. One positive was BPF, what a game to play against leaders but he did really well, mistake for 3rd but that will come with more experience, he made some good saves. Also thought Pontus good but needs help and not getting any, he could play in prem and hope we keep him, needs a solid partner. Pablo had a very good game, wanted the ball and moved us forward. Think those 3 the only ones for me, Anita is crap, can't run and a squad player at best, time to try Pearce Hecky? . Penn and cooper not good enough, need to sign a commanding Cb to help Pontus. Get ailing back and Coyle to compete with Why is Phillips even in the squad, he is terrible and must be eating too much of that cake, games just pass him by, can't tackle or create. Saiz had an off night, maybe he sick of playing with crap but be one to try keep along with Forshaw and vieira. Maybe bring Klich back and see how Ideguchi goes. I also don't rate sacko or Dallas, how did sacko get a 50 mil valuation, all he has is pace but doesn't use it well. Dallas tries hard but he missed header for their 1st goal and again doesn't create anything. I be happy to let lassoga go, no pace, no strength and never wins a header, let's hope Roberts can do better. Looking at wolves they created lots of chances, we have very little going forward, you don't expect us to score. Time to cull and invest.

08 Mar 2018 09:20:40
Excellent Post Shadwell