Leeds Banter Archive April 09 2012

09 Apr 2012 23:20:33
NW has a tricky job on his hands next year tbh. He has to keep the players that do have the ability we need (snoddy, clayton, lees), who I'm sure will be attracting bigger and better teams, who in turn will offer better wages. But not only that, the man has a few weeks to bring in players who can make an immediate impact. Howson's departure left a huge dent in our midfield in which we have yet to repair, Gradel yet to be replaced (seriously lacking the pace and flair he gave us going forward). If the Ambrose and Clingan rumours are true, then the future looks bright, but being the sceptic, how many times have we been linked with Clingan? Personally I think Loners is a bit inconsistant, and Paddy Kenny would for me be a top signing. Safe to say our defence needs an extreme make-over, a solid 6ft 'brick-wall' CB (Gorkss for example) with experience is vital. Lees really does have potential, but like so many of our players, consistancy is a real issue. He needs to start to play well 8,9,10 games out of 10. not just 4 or 5, and stop making unforced errors. Robbo at LB is key. simple as. He is strong, experienced, a real breath of fresh air to our team, so bringing him in next season is a must, as for our RB situation, a new face is definately needed in my eyes. Brown, looks solid, but for me, despite being experienced is just not what we need, dives in to tackles too often, concedes way too many fouls, and the last thing we need is 10 men on the pitch. Finally a new ST, our long balls forward to Becchio just doesn't seem to work, he may be tall, and a physical presence, but when up against a solid CB he is ruled out of the game straight away. RANT OVER ;)

Needed: GK (Kenny)
2x CB's
RB
LB (Robbo)
2x CM's
LM/W
ST

practically a new squad!

I don't think we need robinson we someone who is faster

Hopefully Robinson can help Aidy White to add some toughness to his game.

09 Apr 2012 20:14:07
The problem at Leeds is obvious.
We're so divided at the moment. The manager doesn't want half his squad and is quite happy to say so. The fans don't want half the squad or the chairman & are quite happy to say so. The chairman is quite happy to say what he likes about the team and the fans.
Morale must be terrible.
Next season:
The manager needs to publicly back his players in a positive way like he did when he first arrived (even when things are going wrong).
The fans need to stop bitching about the chairman, about the team, about the manager about the style of play and concentrate on creating the old intimidating atmosphere that used to make opposition teams pap themselves.
The old man needs to shut his big gob and concentrate on his money grabbing.
If we work as a team off the pitch the team will play better on the pitch. With all the division amongst us It's no coincidence that we've been decent away and shocking at home.
Playing away games must be a break.
MOT

If it only it were that simple. Some of us object to paying the 5th highest ticket price in the country only to see it frittered on 'improving' a half-empty stadium and disappearing to offshore companies when it should be going into building a team.

New manager needs his own players - simple ! Neil is a step dad at the moment and he has a STEP team - it doesnt gel as well as one would like. This dying side is larrys half baked attempt at a champ side - and it is not good enough - inconsistent and too slow - bring on the summer signings and new 'character'

Have we now lost more home games than any one else?? I wouldn't be surprised!! What an absolute joke of a club we are at the min. All my mates can't stop laughing at how bad we are....im so embarrassed

This habit of trying to justify the current performances by blaming Grayson is pathetic. How many teams do you see shoot up the table when a new manager arrives, even with the same players? Sunderland being a case in point. It also flies in the face of Harvey's reasoning for sacking Grayson.

I agree Warnock needs his own team before we can judge him but you have to be fair and admit that Larry's real team was taken from him - Johnson, Gradel, Howson, Kilkenny, 4 of his midfield 5 all gone. That was the heart of the team that came so close to the playoffs last year and it was destroyed by money grabbing Bates.

We can only progress with proper investment in the team not the ground. The latest accounts reveal once again we've been lied to by Bates - turns out he's sold two years' worth of season ticket sales and sold some shares to fund the ground when some of that could have gone into the team.

A hearty round of applause from me to the original poster. I nearly didn't even bother going to the game today and I'm a Season Ticket holder.

The atmosphere for home games this season has been non-existant apart from the West Ham game and to a lesser degree the Southampton game.

Today only McCormack, Becchio and O'Dea looked interested.

So how do we move forward? It wouldn't be a huge surprise if we have to sell players to fund Warnock's revolution - and if we do, I would let Snodgrass and Clayton go.

"What?" I hear you cry. Well Snodgrass usually gives his all, and he has plenty of tricks, but he's too slow. Nowadays he usually finds himself surrounded by two or three opposition defenders and he simply isn't good enough to cope with that. If he thinks he's good enough for the Premiership, let him go and find out and give NW the money to spend.

Clayton struts about with his collar turned up and appears to have the attitude of a bloke who thinks he's far better than he is. Cash in, we can and must find better midfielders than him.

Hopefully, whoever comes and whoever goes during the summer, we can all come back in August with some BELIEF. I have actually seen worse players wear the famous white shirt than the current set - some of Bremner's signings stay in the memory for all the wrong reasons - but I have never known such a lifeless atmosphere at Elland Road.

Keep the faith folks! MOT!!

At present, Snodgrass is probably the most overrated player in this division. However, it must be difficult for someone who is undoubtedly talented to also be the captain and must be seen to be trying harder than anyone else. He tends to try and take on the whole of the opposition team on his own as if it is his fault when the team is losing. As much of an honour being captain undoubtedly is maybe it will be better next season to give the captaincy to someone else so he can concentrate on what he is good at. As for the remainder of the players, with the exception of Clayton and McCormack I don't think many fans will be too upset if they are sold on wherever possible and replaced with experienced players with the will to win.

09 Apr 2012 19:42:30
lets just forget this season [ i did weeks ago ] warnock is the right man to take us forward [with the backing of the board] a good clear out in the summer hopefuly bring in some top players for next season . with all this and a good pre season i hope next season we can go for it. also if bates dropped ticket prices a bit get bigger crowds that brings a better atmosphere to er . sounds simple doesnt it

The pricing of the tickets will always be an issue here but as a business i suppose at the end of the season then the books have got to balance and reducing the prices does not necessarily mean that crowds will increase, spend more money, etc and make up the shortfall. WBA have just announced a £50 reduction in the price of a season ticket for next year meaning that an adult can watch Premiership football for £349 per season. However, they have income from TV and other areas that we do not have. I don't think that it is the pricing of the tickets that are keeping fans away rather the standard of football. If I wasn't a season ticket holder than it is likely I would think twice about buying a ticket for every game simply because the football is dire! Give the fans good football and passion from the team and they will return sooner rather than later.

09 Apr 2012 17:52:20
hope warnock does get bates backing because if we are left with this lot next season god help us from a cornwall white

White army heeheeeee

Do fans really think Bates is going to spend millions ,he hasn't got millions,until he's gone nothing will change

09 Apr 2012 17:41:27
The team that won us promotion where a lot better than the current squad! Personally feel that our u-18's could be a stronger squad...

Bates cashed in on Schmeichel, Gradel & Howson, refused to put decent money on the table for Johnson, Beckford & Kilkenny to stay and yet most of the 'supporters' on here are blaming Grayson for our poor squad.

Lay the blame where it's due. BATES OUT.

Beckford Johnson and Howson left for Premiership football; Schmeichal was no superstar but I agree that Kilkenny should have been offered more to stay. Its a bit off when Bristol City are paying more in wages than Leeds!

09 Apr 2012 16:57:35
Its gettin harder to support Leeds. Just not good enough at Elland Road. Players just not good enough to wear the great white shirt. Totally fed up watching this rubbish week in and out. Anyone got a clue what's happenin recently.

Yes - our best players have been sold or allowed to go on free transfers. A good manager was blamed for the consequent decline in performance, unfairly sacked and replaced by someone who seems to be making things worse.

In fairness to Warnock, I'd like to see what he can with his own players next season, but I'm not exactly full of optimism.

09 Apr 2012 16:33:00
Why cant the season just end now save us from seeing even more poor performances us as fans dont deserve this one bit

Lloyd sam scored twice today well done

Just got his hat trick!!1

Who gives a monkey's what Sam does when not playing for us?

It shows that players who play for leeds at the moment have 0 confidence

09 Apr 2012 16:10:09
just a question how much funds do you think that NW will be given from bates in the summer? have heard in the regions of 10 Mil but cant see that to be honest thoughts please?? irish leeds fan!

Hopefully but it will be 3 mill max as bates is Only worth about 20 million all in hoping for a take over tbh

Not enough

09 Apr 2012 15:51:18
FFS this is pathetic. Watching the live txt being an Aussie Leeds supporter, i Have no idea what the red card was for in the context of the game but enough is enough. Grow some balls lads, toughen up and play smarter. Im sure all supporters are tired of being let down with constant red cards. Come and play Aussie rules for a bit and you'll learn some resilience. Is it just me or is it the lesser lights who prob don't deserve to hang around next year earn all of the red cards? If we can salvage this it will be a performance and a half. {Ed020's Note - tackle with studs showing, thats why brown was sent off}

I'm only surprised that Brown doesn't get more red cards

09 Apr 2012 14:26:06
anyone got a link to live streaming of the derby game?

09 Apr 2012 13:20:14
Andre Wisdom of Liverpool.
19 Years old. Reserves captain, has captained England U20's, has been on the bench for the first team.
Pacey, mature & strong.
Plays Central Defence, Right Back or Central Midfield.
Born in Leeds
Inevitably would be nicknamed "Norman" by the fans though lol

Please let us get him please! I'm praying to everyone possible

Liverpoll paid £50k to Bradford City for him when he was 14....might get him on loan but suspect Liverpool see a big future for him at Anfield.

A loan would be ok for both them and us. I posted this and from what I hear he's something special.
I suspect he and Liverpool would love him getting a full season here. Toughen him up in this division and playing under pressure. My mates in Liverpool tell me he has a very good chance of playing for England one day. I never for one moment thought Liverpool would sell him I just thought a season loan would be great for both parties.
They reckon he's strong as an ox, composed and plays like someone with far more experience.

09 Apr 2012 09:14:04
Sam Ricketts, Clint Hill, Ched Evans, Sammy Clingan and Matt Connolly all out of contract in the summer

would all be a big an improvement