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25 Mar 2024 17:08:57
What if Rutter isnot fit? / many speculations but how about Roberts in at RB and Archie pulling the strings instead of Gino?

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25 Mar 2024 17:37:57
For me Leodis it would be a straight swap for Piroe. He could do with a moral boosting appearance and with it a goal or two which would be very welcome šŸ‘šŸ‘.

25 Mar 2024 17:48:12
Correct alternative is Willy at 10, DJ on the right. Keep Arch where he is for now.

25 Mar 2024 17:53:47
I think youā€™re right Woody as I think Piroeā€™s stronger (physically) than putting Summerville in at 10, although Jimmy would create more, scare them more.
And we have plenty on the wings with Gnonto and DJ but I think Piroe will get the nod.

Most importantly hope we donā€™t risk Gio unless we are absolutely certain heā€™s fit to play, better to miss the one game than the rest of the season.

25 Mar 2024 18:03:38
If GR is not fit . then a front 4 of DJ WG CS and PB .4 players who score

and DJ in particular tracks back very well too

Big NO to starting Piroe. we may lose if we start him.

Leeds are more defensively susceptible to conceding when Piroe plays. as he does not track back that much / nor defend effectively when Leeds don't have ball.

I believe all SIX of Leeds United away defeats Piroe has started.

25 Mar 2024 19:07:44
It would be interesting to see how Bamford and Piroe link together as I don't think we have seen that combo yet.

25 Mar 2024 19:27:24
The thing is Baz, while I understand what youā€™re saying, the question is then, what is Piroe doing at Leeds? He has to get some playtime because he will just drift into the reserves and I donā€™t want to see that as I think he has a lot to offer, he can score but like you say he has problems tracking back and his passing leaves something to be desired, but back to match practice makes perfect mate, heā€™s got goals in him, if heā€™s picked then he needs to make it count because it would help in Georginioā€™s recovery, as Class so rightly said we canā€™t rush him back. A good Piroe gives us lots of options which is what we need šŸ‘šŸ‘.

25 Mar 2024 19:50:43
Woody . the thing is with just 8 games remaining Farke can't afford to get this team selection wrong . so much at stake

Time for Farke to really prove he is a very good manager and win a match (es) in Champo without Ā£35 million Gio

Piroe on bench

Sell Piroe in summer.

25 Mar 2024 21:21:06
If Piroe starts as target man up front then he has no need to track back. Bamfordinho can play off him.
Baz, how many of those six away defeats with Piroe playing support striker and Gio player target man?

25 Mar 2024 22:05:17
ILK . Piroe was the " support striker" to Rutter in five of those defeats

Sunderland Stoke Southampton Preston West Brom.

Bamford was on bench in every match.

To win AWAY Leeds needs PACE on counter attack especially.

I would not start slow Piroe at all, even up front.

Speedy DJ, WG and CS must ALL start to win a MUST WIN match along with Bamford up top.

Piroe on bench.

Hopefully DF doesn't farke it up.

25 Mar 2024 22:58:14
I like pirlo he has scored enough and done wellā€¦ he donā€™t always look like he is trying but he does a jobā€¦ I donā€™t get the stick he gets from a decent amount of our fans?

25 Mar 2024 23:39:30
What Baz says. Piroe is a sub. Doesn't bring to the team what others do. He's a confusing player because he's neither a 9 nor a 10.

26 Mar 2024 06:47:29
JP will get the nod obviously, given that where he is regularly subbed on. I reckon he will get 60 mins, before Archie switches into there, and Roberts comes on at RB. This is what will happen if Gio isnā€™t fit in time. (I think he will be fit; heā€™s a young lad, and the procedure was supposedly just a couple of internal stitches to close a vary small hernia) .
Is that what we would want to see? Probs not. JP and Gio are totally different players, but each with something to offer. JP can hit the target for starters! šŸ˜œšŸ¤£.

26 Mar 2024 09:45:34
Great post Brighty and totally agree 100%, šŸ‘šŸ‘.

24 Mar 2024 18:34:32
I asked a similar question a few years back I think? If you could pick one player from each of Revie, Wilkinson and OLearys teams to complete the current Leeds team who would you choose?
I've gone for team needs imo.
Giles.
Mcallister. Almost went Dorigo.
Viduka. Nearly went Martyn.

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24 Mar 2024 19:08:09
Great question

O'Leary has to be viduka but hard not to say bowyer

Wilko has to be dorigo

Revie hunter

Thatā€™s on what the team needs imo.

24 Mar 2024 19:08:24
šŸ¾ Martyn, Sterland and Dorigo.

24 Mar 2024 19:13:46
You have certainly identified the positions that need upgrading Corky

A quality proven (EPL) goalscorer would be my choice priority

I lurve the supreme talent of Viduka but

Perhaps Yeboah would be an even more fabulous addition to this particular current attacking line up.

24 Mar 2024 19:38:56
I can see what George says as full backs needed.
Then again so are goals from midfield?
Macca would get 12 plus and Giles would run the show.
Totally forgot about Yeboah but I think viduka would fit this team perfectly.
Agonised over Dorigo and Martyn I must admit and also Woodgate.
No Luckic Bermo?!

24 Mar 2024 19:44:49
If choosing one player from each era

Then much needed (speedy LB who can defend ) Dorigo from Wilko era

The imperious Giles from The Don era

And Mr Mark Viduka from DOL era ( as I can't have Yeboah having also picked Dorigo fron Wilko era)

24 Mar 2024 20:49:43
Nice picks, chaps. I like Baz's selections. Would be ideal for what we need right now šŸ‘Œ.

24 Mar 2024 21:08:26
Martyn - a definite keeper upgrade

Strachan - for leadership and experience

Clarke - given the amount of chances we create, Sniffer would have a field day this season.

24 Mar 2024 22:51:06
No lukic for me! I love the bloke but martyn and Robinson were better

Best leeds keeper ever though is meslierā€¦ martyn said so himself

Mes is younger, better shot stopper or as good. Better handerling (martyn couldnā€™t hold anything) and far better on crosses. Martyn was god awful in crosses by his own admission

One area this team doesnā€™t need upgrading is the keeper!

25 Mar 2024 00:44:06
Meslier best Leeds keeper ever baloney.

Top 4 ever

1. Martyn
2 Lukic
3 Harvey
4 Sprake

Mess


ier.

25 Mar 2024 00:49:51
Baz Do you remember David Stewart? Mervyn Day was decent.

25 Mar 2024 01:13:46
Yes definitely of course George. David Stewart kept well in some of Leeds United biggest ever games . European cup final, semi final legs and quarter final legs


Mervyn Day very good over 8 or 9 seasons for Leeds

Both in my top 10.

25 Mar 2024 05:37:10
Loved Merv the Swerve!

25 Mar 2024 06:20:07
So would anyone take Cantona? šŸ«£šŸ˜….

25 Mar 2024 08:30:42
I'd have him in a heart beat Dilli for his footballing ability but the thought of him leaving again at the end of the season would be too much, especially as we both know where he'd end up again!
Knowing our luck we'd end up with Maguire as part of the deal: ( ( (.

25 Mar 2024 09:11:41
Iā€™d probably go with Baz selection
If itā€™s specifically to add to what we have now then definitely Dorigo a LB and Viduka would
Be perfect for how we play now and Giles would add that little bit of creativity from midfield
. Sounds good to me.

25 Mar 2024 09:53:28
Haha, can't fault ya there Cleggy, pal šŸ˜….

25 Mar 2024 12:33:36
Credit to Corky for setting this question - it's fiendishly clever!

No right or wrong answers, all 'IMO' suggestions and just look at the volume of superb players we've had under those three managers.

And it doesn't include Tony Currie who doesn't fall under any of these managerial eras!

Brilliant Corky:) )

25 Mar 2024 12:55:31
Cleggy . much as I lurve Tony Currie, the selection of the imperious Johnny Giles is better.

25 Mar 2024 12:57:50
In Jimmy Armfield era I would pick Duncan McKenzie or Tony Currie.

25 Mar 2024 13:11:39
I'm greedy Baz, I'd want all three of them in my team - how you fit them all in I'd leave to a better man than myself as there's potentially no room for a defensive midfielder. Having said that, good luck in getting the ball away from those three in the first place!

25 Mar 2024 15:36:51
I encourage anyone to watch leeds season reviews when martyn was in goal.

A great shot stopper (not better than mes but very good) . Useless in the airā€¦ mes far better, awful handerling, mes far better

You could listen to baz and say Martynā€™s betterā€¦ or and I keep saying this you could listen to martyn himself who said mes was better than him!

Personally Iā€™d listen to me over both martyn and baz, but then Iā€™m a naracisitc ego maniac.

25 Mar 2024 16:25:38
. or you could watch horror movies seasons 2021/ 22 and 22/ 23 when we had Count Vlad masquerading as a goalkeeper.

25 Mar 2024 16:32:21
. p. s. any actual links and dates to this alleged Nige Martyn quote youbkeep banging on about . expect NM was being modest if he did. and said it years ago

Facts are Berm very few if any Leeds fans will agree with you that Count Vlad Meslier is 'best Leeds keeper ever '

Try and find even one šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚ . good luck.

25 Mar 2024 18:38:13
Iā€™ll find one bazā€¦ Nigel martynā€¦as for finding the quoteā€¦. I find your direct statement that I may be lying an insult. True he said it last season but he still said it.

25 Mar 2024 19:07:13
Meslier might yet develop into a (very) good goalkeeper

but bottom line is that as things stand Meslier is NOT ' Leeds best keeper ever'. not even top 8.

25 Mar 2024 22:59:13
I am sorry baz I make you right as always what does martyn know about goalkeeping.

24 Mar 2024 16:47:19
Watching Archie Gray score on his debut for England U21 the absence of any celebration or excitement from him was a tad curious. šŸ¤”šŸ˜—

I believe Archie was born in England as was his dad Andy . his dad though did play only for Scotland as of course did his grandfather Frank and great uncle Eddie.

From a career point of view choosing England national team over Scotland is not really surprising

but one is a tad curious if Archie perceives himself ( far ) more Scottish than English ( in a family of proud Scots) .

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24 Mar 2024 18:14:39
Think youā€™re reading too much into it Baz.
The game was already won and Archie had just came off the bench so didnā€™t expect cartwheels.
If he wanted to play for Scotland then surely thatā€™s what he would do?
Nice finish for the goal.

24 Mar 2024 19:09:21
On this occasion, what šŸ¾ said.

24 Mar 2024 19:17:18
I agree match already won Cork . but he did score on his debut so maybe a smile?

24 Mar 2024 19:45:19
Baz years back I pulled a famous news reader and after the deed was done I never smiled. On the taxi ride home however a wry smile appeared.
Sometimes it takes a while to sink in.
And no it wasnā€™t Jan Leeming!

24 Mar 2024 20:27:39
šŸ¾ Clare Balding or Kirsty Wark? šŸ¤£šŸ†.

24 Mar 2024 20:34:56
Was it Trevor McDonald?

24 Mar 2024 20:48:25
Jan Leeming is a corker šŸ˜ Corky šŸ˜„

Maybe after 5 baby chams it was the newsreader :

Imogen Nation šŸ˜‚.

24 Mar 2024 20:55:52
. Corky the thing also is that Archie is a very smiley happy jovial chap

He celebrates and smiles when Leeds win a throw in. šŸ˜‚

The bottom line Georgeg and Corky is that Archies entire family tree over the centuries have represented and played for Bonnie Scotland

And here Archie is playing for the ' Auld Enemy' England. sounds uber awkward

hence for him his first ever non celebrations? šŸ¤”šŸ¤ØšŸ˜Ž.

24 Mar 2024 21:07:20
Huw Edwardā€™s by any chance Corky? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚.

24 Mar 2024 21:26:01
" Corky Conquest"
Latest Odds at Paddy Power

Imogen Nation evens
Eamonn Holmes 2/ 1
Trevor McDonald 9/ 2
200/ 1 the rest.

24 Mar 2024 22:00:12
Baz šŸ¾ failed to specify television šŸ“ŗ newsreader which leaves door šŸšŖ open for radio šŸ“». What odds can you get me for Alan Partridge? šŸ¤£.

24 Mar 2024 22:34:37
Archieā€™s a Sassenach, thankfully for him though if he does make it to the England squad, Southgate shouldā€™ve had the sack, like directly after his Euro flop.

Christ Corky, that wouldnā€™t have been Selina Scot?, she attracted all the pervs, Frank Bough, Prince Andrew and everyoneā€™s favorite Jimmy Sa Vile.
My personal favorite was Anna Ford, please donā€™t tell me it was her, she was a shaven Raven in my little dirty book.

24 Mar 2024 22:51:18
As with Joseph in the 21s in England and then jumping to Spain I think it is easier for a young lad to be in the country he life's in. If he had chosen Spain first of he would have to have travelled for every match and had people to travel with all the time . With archie would it be any more fuss if he was playing with Scotland? I can see why you would stay and play close to home if you could if the alternative was abroad. That's why I said before Southgate will be looking involve young talent as soon as possible to tie them to the English first team.

25 Mar 2024 00:48:09
Paddy Power betting latest

Serious money coming in from Shepherds Bush location

for golden legs Angela Rippon

now 4/ 6 odds on!

Corky reveal all!

25 Mar 2024 00:57:52
OP Anna Ford was a looker
She is way older than me . she is 80 . how old os Corky? 45?

25 Mar 2024 04:23:32
He wouldnā€™t been able to pull a young one baz. Prob was ford or rippon.

25 Mar 2024 05:38:18
Angela Ripon, or John Craven?

25 Mar 2024 05:54:49
Lol Aus . yep Corky likely pulled someone half a century older than him šŸ¤£.

25 Mar 2024 10:08:26
Very funny lads and all good guesses especially Trevor McDonald and Alan Partridge šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£
However She was definitely a She. Initials MN .
Iā€™m 52 now Baz canā€™t believe it šŸ˜”.

25 Mar 2024 12:50:55
Hmm Corky so allegedly Mary Nightingale 61 .

Yet Paddy Power last night allowed me to cash out early on Angela Rippon šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚.

25 Mar 2024 17:49:38
Cork Was your conquest during her single years or did she play away from home?

25 Mar 2024 19:30:45
Respect if its Nightingale- I wouldn't have kicked her out of bed for snoring.

25 Mar 2024 19:38:24
Iā€™m not too sure George? Never really thought about it. looking back I was 21/ 22 and she was a little older. Cracking girl she was though and a story i'm ashamed to say Iā€™ve told many a time after a few sherbets.
Great to be young!

25 Mar 2024 20:15:32
When you were 21 . Ms Mary Nightingale was 30.1992 . was she a newsreader then?

25 Mar 2024 20:45:15
Didnā€™t have a clue who she was Baz. Maybe she was on TV at the time I donā€™t know. Saw her a few years later on the box.

26 Mar 2024 00:50:14
Cork She didn't marry until 2000.

24 Mar 2024 10:20:18
Patrick Bamford is not telling journalists about this that and the other, no heā€™s on a podcast called My Mates A Footballer and itā€™s hosted by Joe Wilkinson the comedian. It is funny but I agree he should keep his mouth shut about certain things as it could cause unrest. I listen to it all the time as Joe Wilkinson is a favourite of mine and it is funny but I do cringe when PB brings up other players.

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24 Mar 2024 10:44:11
Couldnā€™t remember Joeā€™s surname! Like him a lot, and BamBam is in truth, quite funny at times. Joe was great on 8 out of 10 cats.

24 Mar 2024 11:29:02
Heā€™s my very favourite Brighty, heā€™s in Cockfields which is great, he was the postman in After Life with Ricky Gervais, heā€™s in 8 of Ten Cats which again is great, he is a very funny guy. I also think PB can be funny but I donā€™t like it when he brings up other players, that should be kept in the changing rooms and I also think they have enough material to use without doing that. The problem is lazy journalists listen to it and pick bits off it that might cause a stir and thatā€™s where the news of a fall out with Stuart Dallas came from!

24 Mar 2024 13:33:46
Think loiner brought up what a tosser Bambi was for trying to be liked for talking about other players.
I reckon strikers get liked by scoring. Not by being smart, smug or snitching.

24 Mar 2024 15:52:26
Defo not a ā€œtosserā€ or a ā€œsnitchā€! He has a brain, is eloquent, and educated, so not in the typical footballer mould, and that makes some dislike him, including the likes of Dyche. He is liked and respected by his team mates, and those that coach and manage him, and delivers on the pitch more than well enough. He has been crucial in our form since his return. End of story.

24 Mar 2024 16:06:09
What Brighty said 120%.

24 Mar 2024 18:22:25
Thatā€™s a tad rough Aus, Bam Bam has scored a lot of goals for Leeds United and still is, he is an all round team player and although he went through a bad patch he picked himself up, didnā€™t sulk and worked hard to wear the shirt again, so for me he deserves his place. Heā€™s also done a lot for Georginio and Joseph by helping them and giving them confidence out on that pitch. I remember not so long ago that Georginio was having a nightmare game then a half time talk from PB and he came back out a different player and played fantastic. I understand why some Leeds fans have the same opinion as Aus, but heā€™s going nowhere this season so enjoy his goals and hopefully promotion, and remember Bam Bam can seem uninterested in his play, but then he will pop out and score an important goal, just like at The Wendies! We are a better team when he and DJ play. šŸ‘šŸ‘MOT ALAW.

24 Mar 2024 22:56:21
I liked the podcast were bam said about the one to one meetings the team had with bielsa before matches. Basically bielsa would sit them down and tell them how the game would go and how they would score and how we would score and how to play each part of the game. Bam said it was like he had a crystal ball. Each game would play out as if he'd seen it before.

25 Mar 2024 05:39:49
Indeed Ben. Magic Marcelo, and his crystal ball!

25 Mar 2024 06:26:18
Bielsa be like "we will lose 5-0 today because I won't change my tactics. "

I jest, but is kinda funny though that PB said he knew, yet we still got thumped regularly towards the end.

25 Mar 2024 14:25:02
I thought exactly the same Dill šŸ‘.

23 Mar 2024 22:20:34
Some people like Opera, some people love heavy metal, but I definitely prefer watching Leeds United in any league (actually the championship as itā€™s still a competition) than watching any international football.

Roll on Watford, letā€™s go again with the excitement!

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23 Mar 2024 23:32:22
Class No-one cared for Uwe Rosler's brand of āš½. Right German now though.

24 Mar 2024 00:11:33
OK Here's a Quiz . Watford / Leeds themed


1) Which Leeds United 1970s superb creative midfield maestro began his career with Watford?

2) Apart from Watford and Leeds United name THREE other clubs Steve Hodge played for?

And

3) Name the TWO Leeds United players who played under the great David Oleary teams
who played in the 2006 Play Off final between Leeds United and Watford?

24 Mar 2024 00:48:00
I like your quizzes Baz, so here are my answers mate:

Answer 1. The great and legend that is Tony Currie.

Answer 2. Aston Villa, Nottingham Forest, Queens Park Rangers and Tottenham Hotspur.

Answer 3. Gary Kelly and Eric Bakke.

24 Mar 2024 01:31:42
Thank you Woody pal

Super correct answers Woody ; you even giving 4 correct clubs for Steve Hodge.

I thought question 3 might prove to be the most tricky (re Eirik Bakke ) .

24 Mar 2024 06:43:59
Cheers Baz and yes question 3 was a poser, I was thinking Killgannon then I remembered Eric. Such a great young team that should really of done more! Nice one though Baz as it gets the old grey matter working šŸ‘šŸ‘.

23 Mar 2024 22:18:50
Was slab head really sold for 80 million or whatever it was- them foxes are a wily bunch - he's probably not worth 8 now.

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24 Mar 2024 00:12:42
Why is he still selected?

24 Mar 2024 08:55:00
If maguire is worth 80 million I have a yukka plant who can play right back worth 35 million.

24 Mar 2024 09:18:38
If Southgate goes to man poo maguire can stay there forever. He will be cb till he's 80.

24 Mar 2024 14:42:39
Waistcoat at the wheeeeeel.

23 Mar 2024 21:44:52
Just watched the England v Brazil game (I know, I'm my own worst enemy! ) .
Bellingham, Foden and Anthony Gordon were excellent for 50 minutes or so but our problem is Southgate and his inability to stop picking favourites such as Maguire and Gallagher.
They are simply not international class.
Please Gareth, take a look at the under 21s and put Archie on that plane to Germany - the lads got what it takes and would learn so much from the experience of a major tournament.

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23 Mar 2024 23:45:18
Cleggy I believe Arch shall make the final full squad.

24 Mar 2024 00:18:44
When are the Euros? . this summer right? . in under 2.5 months time!

Georgey more chance of you going on a blind date with your fave the very gorgeous Hayley Atwell!

than young Archie Gray getting in the Euros final full squad!


That's a Baz 100% guarantee!

24 Mar 2024 00:21:28
Cleggy Gallagher has replaced Mason mount as Southgates pet. Runs around a lot but doesn't do anything.
Mind the Brazilians played the ref.
Who ever thought a Portuguese ref would be good and impartial to ref Brazil needs checking.
I know it was a friendly but.

24 Mar 2024 00:25:43
Like mainoo George they will want to tie him to England. Scotland will be sniffing around and great uncle will be having a say.

24 Mar 2024 07:52:43
I said it before; Gallagher is hugely overrated. Foden should play there. Forget Hendo et Al. Support the attacking JB with more attack. Rice can handle the defensive MF duties. definitely take Archie as back up.

24 Mar 2024 08:56:33
Anyone else thinking we missed kal?

24 Mar 2024 09:05:22
Gallagher is useful enough and I think a few are underrating what his profile brings. A willing runner/ tackler/ interceptor late in a game can be a game changer/ consolidator imo - say we're holding a lead with 10 mins to go for example - but I wouldn't have him as a starter.

Mainoo looked calm and collected.

Wanted to see Branthwite next to Stones at some point. Hopefully we see that against Belgium.

Think it's time to usher in some more youth and show a few older heads the door (Maguire/ Henderson)

As for Archie, probably too early for him. He's not even getting starts for the U21s, nor starting for a big EPL side, ala Mainoo. As much as it would be amazing to see him go.

23 Mar 2024 11:51:51
Daniel Feliciano is the journalist that has mentioned selling DJ Dilli, I have found out who he is and he is on Leeds rumours website. Daniel Feliciano is a senior contributor and social media assistant, who has previously worked for Sky Sports and Manchester Evening News covering Euro 2020 and the Premier League. Lazy Journalist mate.

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23 Mar 2024 12:49:47
Meaning? An imposter? Whom?
Gather thy weapons compadres šŸ‘.

23 Mar 2024 13:02:21
As are so many so called ' journos' . lazy/ making it up.

23 Mar 2024 13:08:28
Sounds like a tw@ šŸ˜‚.

23 Mar 2024 08:12:05
I see the new England kit is causing a bit of a stink.
Because a very small cross on the collar is blue and purple.
Joey Barton is blaming woke lesbians for it!
Really? Is this that important?
We don't even celebrate St George's day.
Team gb have a blue union jack on their team strip and no one blinks an eye.
Nike change a two inch cross on the collar of the England shirt and it makes the front page and politicians are commenting on it.
My mind is very boggled!

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23 Mar 2024 08:50:52
Itā€™s a classic case of the media making news instead of reporting news of any relevance. Poking at the public with stick to get a reaction and of course it works.

23 Mar 2024 09:22:40
I donā€™t think it is worth kicking up a stink about however I wouldnā€™t buy the kit. Our countryā€™s flag is red and white

Iā€™d be the same is they changed the leeds badge or colours. I donā€™t mind away kits But as a traditionalist I donā€™t like it. Iā€™m not offended by it just not my personal choice.

23 Mar 2024 09:30:31
I just read a good comment on this.

"It is not the fact Nike have slightly changed the colour of the st George's Cross that is disgusting or offensive it is the fact they are charging football fans Ā£125 for the shirts. "

Some of the comments on social media are bonkers.

23 Mar 2024 09:49:41
Agee Ben, that certain sectors will always monopolise any story to champion their own cause. It doesnā€™t affect me as Iā€™m more upset with our own FA championing that well worn chestnut that pay Ā£125.00! For a shirt youā€™ll be helping grass roots footballā€¦. reallyā€¦.

I do believe in the obvious irony that the most upset sector of supporters will normally be the biggest purchasers of these kits aside from hard pressed parents, so it may back fire on the FA, Nike in poor sales.

However, my brother lives in Ireland and on one of their biggest radio phone-in shows >90% thought it was wrong to change the colour on the cross of St George and said there would be uproar if Ireland kit was changed in any shape or form.

Like on here, I respect peopleā€™s rights to having different opinions and whilst I genuinely do not understand the level of upset, I think itā€™s more important that we remain a country that has free speech a myriad of different views or opinions, so yes I donā€™t understand it, but I respect their right to be offended if they are.

23 Mar 2024 09:54:50
Personal choice i personal choice berm and nothing wrong that.
I suppose the shirt designer has to do something to justify the price and the change of shirt.
It must be a tough job to design a different England first kit top.
It is basically a white shirt with a bit of red and bit of blue on it.
How do you radically change something while keeping it the same.
If the Internet warriors had spent 125 quid on a new shirt exactly like the previous one they would be in melt down. I know it all money making and I won't buy one because I don't want to waste my money.

23 Mar 2024 10:08:32
Yes class I was just thinking about the Irish or lots of other countries that have a strong bond or identity with their flag.
But we don't celebrate St George's day and most of the upset is coming from people who only see a St George's flag when England are playing.

Sorry to get political but if we hadn't had brexit and 14 years of the government demonising anything foreign in my opinion no one would have noticed.
Umbro had a kit in 2010 with coloured crosses on it did it cause this fuss?

23 Mar 2024 10:21:14
I wouldnā€™t buy the shirt regardless, but I can see why the designer thought they could change the colours, whereas they couldnā€™t/ wouldnā€™t for almost any other flag/ country.

If youā€™re one of the many three vertical (eg Ireland, Italy, France, Belgium, Romania etc) or horizontal (Netherlands, Hungary, Russia, Luxembourg, Germany etc) and you changed any colours thereā€™s then a question of which country was it even in the first place, so you canā€™t change colours (but maybe could do an effect to distort the flag) .

With the Georgeā€™s cross it is pretty distinctive to the English flag (most other cross flags are off centre etc) , so you could argue the shape and not the colour is the distinctive part, so altering the colours is different.

23 Mar 2024 10:33:13
Well Brockley if the Nike designer had done this with the Russian flag he would be supping polonium tea by now!

23 Mar 2024 11:05:48
ThĆ© design on flags has been done many times to many different countries flags. Nike are Iā€™m sure very happy about the attention that itā€™s creating as it will without doubt super boost the sales of England shirts. I wouldnā€™t be surprised if the biggest and fastest selling England shirt in its history.
Thatā€™s media hype for you, good or bad.

23 Mar 2024 11:43:53
I agree the most offensive thing is the price by a mile or by about 125 quid!

I think most countries are not as open, modern, accepting, liberal what ever word you want to use as England/ uk and this is why they chose us. Letā€™s be honest this was a big decision they didnā€™t make likely

Imagine the Brazil flag being changed from its colours or any other country.

Iā€™m not offended by it but I donā€™t personally like it and would avoid. Bit like our red kit a few seasons back and our blue is the colour media line for recent blue kit.

I think England has been shamed for trying to stick to roots when other countries are allowedā€¦ either way for me to buy a kit for 125 quid it would have to be made out of 24 carat gold!

Funny you say St. Georgeā€™s day is not a think. In south London is it still celebrated and a lot of flags fly and events happen on this day.

I think sales will be fine as more will buy it as wile than will boy cot it as woke!

I think itā€™s mental how political it has got thoughā€¦ that said our red kit was a liberty and I would of happiest kicked the designer square in the nuts for doing it!

23 Mar 2024 12:54:42
Donā€™t change colour of flag or kit emblems. Itā€™s a business not airy fairy politics.
Jeez. Donā€™t give a stuff about anything or anybody else.
Keep Leeds as football business.

23 Mar 2024 12:57:29
The prevalent colours of the England kit has always been red white and blue as in the three lions badge.
The st George's Cross on the kit only started to appear from the 90s. It has appeared in lots of different shapes and sizes since.
It was funny the French government has changed the blue in there flag and no noticed.
It's just nationalist nonsense in my opinion.

23 Mar 2024 13:19:59
Berm why on earth was the England red kit a few seasons back ( 2022) a "liberty"

The 2022 shirt looked pretty standard imo

It looks similar to red England shirts of 1989 and 1990 .

My least fave England red shirt is 1998

My fave is England ICONIC and SUCCESSFUL winning World Cup RED shirt 1966.

England have done nowt in white shirt sadly.

23 Mar 2024 13:21:33
I agree with you Ben, but again if it is ā€œnationalismā€ those people should not be derided, criticised for having their own beliefs.

We have seen on this site time and time again, if one opinion is purported to be the only valid voice, it gets boring and monotonous very quickly.

It was only last year that our local Remembrance Day memorial had all the veterans poppy crosses and flags (Union Jack and St George) destroyed.

The colour change genuinely doesnā€™t bother me, but if I had served in the armed forces I might feel very differently cancel culture and devisive politics is a very slippery slope, and I do not understand why nationalists are all generally stereotyped as bigots as opposed to individuals who are extremely proud and protective of their country.

I believe thatā€™s why it resonates so strongly for others?

And we are so fortunate to live where we live, but true freedom means I can still respect another persons right to fervently disagree with my own views, Mrs Class is the perfect example.

23 Mar 2024 14:38:41
Baz do you dilberatly misread my posts to jump on me or just find things hard to understand?

Any red England kit is perfectly fine with me (wonā€™t buy it because itā€™s arsenal Liverpool and ****) but I donā€™t mind.

I said the red leeds kitā€¦ and it was red ā€¦ was a liberaty

So again baz you wrong there mateā€¦ apology incoming by any chance?

23 Mar 2024 14:46:11
I understand you completely class. The point I tried to put across is that a lot of the keyboard warriors that are so outraged at this only practice this nationalism when a tournament comes round. The fact that the colours used were influenced by the colours of the 66 training kit not any wild thing like rainbows or something random.

I fully respect the people who celebrate nationalism all the time but it feels around football nationalism is wrapped up in xenophobia and hooliganism.
In 66 the union flag was more prevalent and the cross only quite recently started being used on the kit.

As for me I could give a monkeys what colour they made the cross. I do not need an archaic symbol especially one that was adopted for religious reasons to show me where I from.
The money grabbing of the fa in the price of the shirt is of far more pertinent to me.

23 Mar 2024 14:54:29
Berm I think bazs post was in error as you said "our" whilst talking about England kit. I read it as you didn't like a red England kit. Not that the leeds red kit was wrong.

23 Mar 2024 15:08:32
Berm nope no mention of the word ' Leeds' or ' Leeds red kit ' by you.

The thread and your post is about England shirt . you did mention ' our red shirt ' but as you are English so' English red shirt '

Anyways you clarified your vagueness . well done šŸ˜†.

23 Mar 2024 15:12:11
Indeed Ben 100% spot on.

But don't forget to apologise to Berm šŸ˜‰.

23 Mar 2024 15:41:50
Ben, the price was going to be my comment too. Itā€™s daylight robbery, and a filthy, disgusting, disgrace. Dunno the junior prices, but Iā€™ll warrant theyā€™re extortionate too! Money grabbing bar stewards, all of ā€˜em!

23 Mar 2024 16:25:49
Sorry for confusion

Ourā€¦ always means leedsā€¦ our red kit few seasons ago was a liberty but can see the confusion

Trust baz to jump on it.

23 Mar 2024 22:00:54
I bought 3 of the purple away tops. 1 for me and 2 for my sprogs. Only cost me about Ā£45 direct from a Chinese web based procurement resource.
Don't give 2 hoots about a small simple cross on the back of the collar.

23 Mar 2024 23:33:36
I understand this issue all too well. Many people are cross with George. šŸ¤£.

24 Mar 2024 00:23:30
How do you make a George Cross?

24 Mar 2024 07:56:27
Ben, that is very easy, if youā€™re me! šŸ˜¬šŸ¤£šŸ¤£.

22 Mar 2024 23:05:56
Appears Southgate is mancs number one target, that should hopefully help maintain there slide into oblivion. Surely Sir Jim can't be that daft.

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23 Mar 2024 01:59:18
Weird ehšŸ¤”
Memory gone these days.
What did he win managing at club level?

23 Mar 2024 09:23:28
I hope they get him! Club record is quality and at international level bottles it and should do better with talent avaible.

24 Mar 2024 14:47:08
League Cup for boro and also runner-up UEFA Cup also boro.

 


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