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17 Apr 2024 22:28:40
Both Bam and Piroe have missed sitters in last couple of games. Away from the cauldron of what was" fortress";Elland Road I would be tempted to start the young uns up front. Piroe blanked when right through and Bam couldn't even get his head on the ball instead of his shoulder when basically unmarked in the 6 yd box. Those are probably going to prove to be expensive misses. Hansen was proved wrong when he said you can't w8n with kids - let's give the LUFC kids a go.

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17 Apr 2024 23:39:23
Likely though just one change by DF ; Bamford in for Piroe.

DF isn't going to start MJ.

Be refreshing to actually indeed score goals from corner/ set piece!

If we be behind at 60 mins bring Cressy on last 30 mins . Amps into midfield. Cressy to score a couple of headers.

Sort it Herr Farke!

18 Apr 2024 11:31:47
On the contrary I think our lack of experienced heads is costing us at this point.

18 Apr 2024 14:15:19
Alf our experienced heads can't even head the bloody ball! DF has no intentions of playing Cresswell and starting Joseph. We have NOT utilized our young talent properly in the past 4 years. Although Archie has played well this season and has proven himself, If his last name wasn't (Gray) he would have never been in DF starting team. I'm not bashing my youngster just stating fact.

18 Apr 2024 15:07:23
Bang on the šŸ’° money Hooksie.
" Experienced" players are of no use if they are bottlers under pressure like some of the shower that were masquerading as Leeds players last season.

and the likes of Bamford this season

Empty the stadium maybe he will score.

18 Apr 2024 15:08:59
A lot of young players play without fear

Fergie had no qualms filling his team with young players.

19 Apr 2024 07:06:05
Silver foil on offer in Morrisons if you need a new hat Bermuda.

17 Apr 2024 11:51:09
Against Middlesbrough I donā€™t have a problem with Farke starting Bamford or Piroe, but if we are not in front by h sixty minutes he must give Joseph on.
Overall our problem currently is more to do with confidence, you see that our ball retention and passing is way off our normal game.
Iā€™d also prefer Willy to start as he does posses an extra edge in our attacking flanks.

There no denying that it will be crucial that.

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17 Apr 2024 12:23:20
Willy Gnonto AND Daniel James must start. we must WIN . need goals . and players who do score on pitch

Its a MUST WIN . must score gosls

Mes

Roberts
Rodon
Ampadu
Byram

Gruev
Piroe ( radical but he has 12 goals GK has zero )

DJ
Gnonto ( in. the 10 )
Summerville ( or Anthony )

Joseph

If Summerville isn't on it yet AGAIN . hook him off at HT for Anthony.

17 Apr 2024 13:09:52
Willy is currently more of a threat than James. James has been back to his head down no idea best since int break. Def Willy on. Gray for Rutter. Nooooooooo Bamford. Rather play cooper up front šŸ‘.

17 Apr 2024 13:23:42
Gray has been awful Aus past games and has zero goal threat


We need goals.

17 Apr 2024 14:21:16
Yeah. But Rutter has too baz.
I think they both need a rest. I donā€™t know. So many are tired or out of form.
Itā€™s tough from here.
Not sure what our sub usage is like compared to other 3 but our supposed starting 11 prob reduced to about 4 worthy of a start now.

17 Apr 2024 15:01:28
Our window of opportunity has passed for automatic promotion! BUT, I believe we win the Playoffs.

17 Apr 2024 16:14:18
Never write Leeds United off.
We always do things the hard way and that is where we currently are
Middlesbrough like to attack, which should help our attackers to find space and hopefully score
I live up here and everyone keeps saying they will struggle on Monday without Luke Ayling.

17 Apr 2024 19:40:29
Don't forget Rutter had a serious op during the international break. Its going to be tough to come back from under any circumstances. Hopefully the extended break will help a few reset.

17 Apr 2024 20:26:34
One of my mates had a hernia operation in December and still feels discomfort now
Rutter was straight back into training and then games
Yes he's an athlete, but he's also a human and most likely feeling niggles.

17 Apr 2024 20:33:46
I guess it may have not been feasible to delay Rutter surgery until next month.

17 Apr 2024 22:40:07
Yes I have had hernias and they do take a few months to properly recover from. Obviously Rutter didn't get an NHS special but still. Think the club must have had no choice but to risk it but that situation more than any other has derailed our season.

17 Apr 2024 23:45:56
Blimey Cuppa you have had a lot of injuries for a whipper snapper :

hernias ( plural ) , ACLs, 2 broken legs, spinal injuries. etc etc.

18 Apr 2024 07:11:50
Yes 2 hernias but the first when I was 5. Not really spinal injuries more a bad back - add to that 2 fractured arms and I also had a rare problem with a bone slipping out of place in my left hip for which I still have 2 titanium screws within. That was a 2 year revovery as well which effectively killed off my football 'career'. At least if I get murdered and my body is found years later the identification should be fairly easy. Other than that I think I've been injury free.

18 Apr 2024 11:32:45
Didn't Gray score for us not too long ago?

18 Apr 2024 15:12:18
No Gray has Zero goals for Leeds Cuppa

Sorry to hear of your lengthy injuires.

18 Apr 2024 18:02:34
Alf Sorry to read about your injuries. Don't joke about death. Hopefully you'll be around a long time and to witness šŸ¤šŸ’›šŸ’™ EPL and CL titles.

Player Assessment At Manchester United

17 Apr 2024 07:39:27
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17 Apr 2024 02:50:30
May I suggest a tag team wrestling match with luvvies Alf and Op versus evil twins George and Baz.

Back to school - my dad is bigger than your dad etc.

Saints well and truly in it, think it's better for us if they beat foxes but not sure. To go up auto think we have to win out and that not likely .

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17 Apr 2024 05:36:12
1970 so " Stone Cold Steve Austin" Baz.

We have had on here

" Ipswich have gone"; šŸ¤”

" Saints are not in it "šŸ¤Ø

Well 4 teams are in it ; Leeds likely need to win both away matches and then at least draw final match against Saints.

17 Apr 2024 06:48:23
Think Aus should be the manager for the evils while Brighty could be manager for ourselves. Or we could do a triple threat match.

17 Apr 2024 07:18:51
Baz You be šŸŖØšŸ„¶. I'll be the āš«šŸ¦‚.

17 Apr 2024 07:48:33
Just like to remind Baz and George that they are not Professional football managers behind their computer keyboards and that they donā€™t know better with their very conviennent hindsight opinions.
However, they would would know just a little more about coaching than that excuse of a football coach Jesse Marsch.
I think Alf, myself and several other posters need to add some reality to threads as Bazza likes to monopolize pretty much every thread with, itā€™s my way and my way only. šŸ˜‰
Power to the people āœŠšŸ».

{Ed025's Note - do you know what guys i think we need to be a bit nicer to each other, a bit more tolerant and respectful even if you dont agree with someones view, it gets like a bunch of fish wives at times and you are all on the same side here so lets stop the petty bickering and oneupmanship please..

17 Apr 2024 08:25:05
Feel a bit stuck in the middle.
Rejected by Alfs team ( which hurt a lot I might add) and obviously baz and Porgie able to manage themselves.
Tug of warer available here.

17 Apr 2024 09:30:46
OP . you can fall me "Frank" .

Sinatra ( not Lampard)

#my way šŸ˜†.

17 Apr 2024 09:32:05
Ha one can never rely on those Aussies šŸ˜† šŸ˜†.

17 Apr 2024 09:25:26
Respectfully Ed I think a lot of the posts are a bit tongue in cheek, certainly from my behalf, itā€™s a bit of a distraction from the will we wonā€™t we get promoted? Which is starting a lot of sphincter twitching amongst us Leeds fans right now.
Aus, if you wanna be in our gang youā€™ve got to tone down the anti Farke posts! šŸ˜‰
Yes mate, thatā€™s the deal.

{Ed025's Note - there is nothing wrong with a bit of banter OP in fact i love it, but it can be a fine line at times mate and i just dont want it to turn into a slanging match, but im sure it wont..

17 Apr 2024 09:42:30
Don't mind opposing views Ed, in fact I welcome them but it's sooo boring hearing the same lines trotted out every single thread whose only point is to boast about how great they are, how much they told us so and clearly attempts to boost one's own seemingly fragile ego. Its far easier to be negative about a team than positive because in footie nothing is permanent. For every thread if Baz and George just don't bother to comment, we can all just assume they are right about everything and talk about more interesting things instead.

{Ed025's Note - its easy to just skip past posts you dont agree with alf, i enjoy a debate as much as the next guy but we do have to keep it civil mate..

17 Apr 2024 10:46:31
We have also had on here

"forget Leicester, they can't be caught. "
"Farke totally unproven at this level. "

17 Apr 2024 11:26:00
Agree with OP who usually has a good sense of humour/ banter.

Cuppa one realises you be bitter about DF messing up past 5 games esp Blackburn but no need to repeat/ use tbe ott ' e ' word.

17 Apr 2024 11:29:03
OP Didn't care for your convenient hindsight opinions comment when I know for a fact that prior to our decline I posted and discussed with you the benefit of rotation and resting players after a fixture pile up involving the international break (which wasn't actually a break for 85% of our squad, wasn't it just 6 who remained? ) I cautioned you then directly with a couple of clear posts and advisory and now you tell me I have a hindsight opinion? Hope you're joking but sense you are not.

17 Apr 2024 11:30:36
Ani

line 1 correct.17 points ahead one did not foresĆØe them choking . still think they will go up in autos

Line 2 false . I said he was " overrated " . unless you be referring to another poster perhaps.

17 Apr 2024 12:05:32
George letā€™s have right, we can oppose each otherā€™s opinion, itā€™s fair game, doesnā€™t matter who is right or wrong itā€™s just opinions.
We oppose each otherā€™s opinions if we want but then move on.
No need to get upset or make issues about it.
Keep it clean and weā€™re all good šŸ‘.

17 Apr 2024 12:36:47
My opinion on the rotation issue as you make out George, I feel you could have a point on certain players who came back from their internationals, but I donā€™t think they were fatigued more disconsolate especially our Welsh contingent who are very important in our squad.
Itā€™s such fine margins In professional football, a slight knock in confidence to a few players can displace the squad leading to a negative performance.
So for me itā€™s not fatigue the problem but confidence, we donā€™t have quality replacements for Rodon and Ampadu, who appear to be suffering along with James.

17 Apr 2024 13:13:41
Not sure you have ever posted clearly. Most of the time I take Edā€™s advice and ignore your posts. Unless they are short.

17 Apr 2024 13:23:27
OP Why do you conflate? Did I refuse your right to oppose? No. Issue is you've attempted to rewrite the truth by claiming hindsight. Now you say I've got a point with certain players. Make mind up! I was right all along and in advance. So unnecessary. The title was ours.

Sometimes you rest players for a good week, possibly lose 3 or 4 points because of it and then come back with a vengeance. What Farke did was ensure we lost double those amount of points and without the benefit of the rest!

17 Apr 2024 15:12:34
Itā€™s like a plug on here put live and Neutral together it goes bang.

{Ed025's Note - im shocked Whiteman.. :)

17 Apr 2024 18:17:36
Ed025 only joking EDšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚.

17 Apr 2024 18:21:45
Geoege you been on here a long time how many of your post have been wrong that speaks volumes negative positive wrong or right we are all marching on together. šŸ˜€.

17 Apr 2024 19:27:35
Can I be The Undertaker, or Paul Bearer?

17 Apr 2024 19:31:50
Whitey I believe 1 was wrong out of 744,803 posts.

17 Apr 2024 19:38:11
Now you're talking Brighty - Paul Bearer was a creepy one wasn't he?

17 Apr 2024 22:01:16
He wasnā€™t half, Alf! Looked a bit Jimmy Saville / Rolf Harris to me!

18 Apr 2024 07:43:35
Thank you Ed025, wish it was more civil. Think some posters may have left due to the vitriol on the site. We all love Leeds so we should do our best to gat along. Appreciate all the good posts.

{Ed025's Note - it can just deteriorate if its 1 on 1 confrontation Simon, i post the same on all the sites mate as its not just on here that it happens, im not saying you cant have different views and express them, but lets have some respect..

18 Apr 2024 21:52:12
To be fair I called this a while ago

I get banter and jokes but one poster on here is consistently beyound the mark with no class or skill

Banter is funny rude is rude. Always ask yourself if o was in pub how would I respond.

17 Apr 2024 02:40:54
The Leicester Southampton game an interesting one.
Is it better Leicester win and more than less finish Southampton off with our better goal difference.
Southampton win and all four in the mix.
Draw?
Prob go for draw I reckon.
Got a sneaky feel Leicester lose v Brom.
Fitting that the closest championship battle ever will go down to last game and unfitting that the current top two have an easy game. Typical.

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17 Apr 2024 05:05:41
We had an ā€œeasyā€ game last weekend Aus!

There are no easy games in this League. Ipswich will be playing Huddersfield who could/ will be fighting for their survival?

I would take having to beat Southampton on the last day for promotion now.

17 Apr 2024 05:43:44
I predicted Leeds pick up one point at QPR

Leeds lose against Boro and Saints

Final top 6 from here on in

1st Ipswich Champions
2nd Leicester Autos

Playoffs
3rd Southamption
4th Leeds
5th Norwich
6th West Brom.

17 Apr 2024 15:13:59
Baz Final Southampton v Norwich.

17 Apr 2024 19:08:18
Probably Whitey.

16 Apr 2024 22:06:36
Some exciting matches in Champions league tonight

Had a chuckle at Barcelona Hierarchy no doubt losing it . being 4 2 up on in first half on aggregate but losing 6 4 eventually.

Not a fan of way Barcelona president and Raph agent Deco dealt with Leeds United over Raph.

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16 Apr 2024 16:40:27
when are the Southampton tickets available for club members. I don't want to miss the release day due to my holiday in Italy.

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16 Apr 2024 17:00:57
Phase 2: 1pm Friday 19th April

All My Leeds Members
Reserved allocation ā€“ sold on a first come first served basis.

16 Apr 2024 17:43:55
Dam and blast!

I will have to hope the wifi is working in the hills above Amalfi and remembering to take the extra one hour into account.

I have no chance!

16 Apr 2024 17:52:27
Priority is on Thursday!

I am not flying till Friday. Golf tee time of 10.28am is now officially cancelled.

MOT.

16 Apr 2024 18:03:15
Why would you want to attend a game where the āšœļøāšœļø players and fans will have a party šŸŽ‰šŸ„³ on our pitch šŸŸļø? šŸ˜”šŸ™ˆšŸ¤®.

16 Apr 2024 19:29:33
Just enter the ballot a few days later. It's easier to get tickets that way imo.

George - because PLAB is a Leeds fan and not a fairweather, Goldilocks fan like some who only 'support' when things are 'just right'.

16 Apr 2024 19:56:42
Well said Alf. Iā€™m more and more convinced he is simply a WUM.

16 Apr 2024 20:54:03
George a WUM? Ridiculous tosh

Saints 3 nil up . just 3 points behind the mighty Farke's Leeds

looks like George has justifield reason to be a tad despondent.

16 Apr 2024 22:10:52
I think George is a bit more than a tad despondent Baz.
Southampton very fortunate to be playing a team with nothing to play for, a victory for them was not a surprise. We still have a superior goal difference over them and Ipswich if this goes to the wire which I think it will.
You can thank Jimmy for that if it comes down to goal difference, the player you want the club to sell!

16 Apr 2024 22:31:36
Thank you DJ too OP . same goal contributions.

16 Apr 2024 22:37:50
Exactly OP. Some peeps have no idea about the context of certain games and how that impacts performance. Saints have been there or thereabouts fornthe majority of the season so no surprise they are up there now. Plus they seem ro have had their rough patch and now in fine form again. Will be a formidable opponent in the final weeks.

16 Apr 2024 23:06:08
Well, all, up, we need Southampton to be in the mix. Their game in hand against Leicester has some real meaning now.

17 Apr 2024 05:46:43
Leeds need to win matches Ani. the Leicester vs Saints match won't help them now.

17 Apr 2024 07:44:19
Of course it will Baz - If Southampton beat Leicester, then it will be one point between us and Leicester on the same games. Of course we have win our games - Like I say, us v Southampton, winner takes all, is fine by me.

Liverpool v Crystal Palace - A Quick Liverpool Perspective

16 Apr 2024 07:39:29
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16 Apr 2024 22:52:19
Good write up Ed001.
A period of transition for Liverpool next season.

15 Apr 2024 23:29:24
A few things i am not liking at the moment
Players getting visibly annoyed with each other on pitch, throwing hands in air, the argument about the penalty in the Hull
Game, the discontent from the players being subbed as well, I also notice summerville letting everyone know his name when he scores, it's about him not the badge or the club . I'd drop summerville out the squad totally as to me I think it's a bad influence and I think is eyeing a move .

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16 Apr 2024 00:53:58
Bang on the money Mighty re Summerville.

16 Apr 2024 03:56:09
Play him while weā€™ve got him but he does come across as an arrogant egotist. Big fish in little pond, if big boys come with the loot he will fade into obscurity. Look at PHILLIPS, lost years of his career trying to slide in above his level - but then if you were offered his kind of loot wouldnā€™t you . Summerville is quick and small but a couple of outings against some Italian or German defensive assassins and he will slow down.

16 Apr 2024 07:13:23
It does make you think that something has gone on behind the scenes that's possibly caused our bad form since the Watford game. Remember the palace game where something happened at half time and we got battered 2nd half. I'm staying positive (we'll try to) that it's just a bad patch) , which has ended and we'll be back to our best for the next 3 games šŸ¤ž.

16 Apr 2024 08:03:27
Good point raised, I got slated on here a few weeks ago about pointing out his body language and attitude, and I stick to my opinion.
Whilst I like him as a player, and don't get me wrong he has kept us up there with his goals, he is always one touch too much. He hardly every makes the right pass to a player with much more space and time, just tries to bring it on his right foot and shoot. His body language just screams disinterested to me, and maybe he has had offers, but if so you would think it would incentives his game or could it be that they have said you're not for sale at any cost, and like Elivis, he's caught in a trap.

16 Apr 2024 08:10:45
Well letā€™s just get rid of one of our best players because maybe his attitude might not look quite right to a few fans and he points to his name on his shirt when he scores one of the many goals he has scored for us season.
I give up!

16 Apr 2024 08:22:43
Op that's definitely not what I am saying about Jimmy, it's more to do with what i see when i watch him play, is it a potential behind the scenes issue that may be affecting him. I really like him as a player, and yes he is certainly one of our best, and to reiterate my post his goals have been invaluable.

16 Apr 2024 11:46:53
Dougie, i just think heā€™s probably an over confident immature cocky kid and thereā€™s a lot of them Iā€™m sure in professional football.
So long as he is giving 100% working for the team and scoring goals he can have whatever look on his face as far as Iā€™m concerned.
The great thing about Jimmy heā€™s still not the finished article in my opinion, thereā€™s potentially a top top player in there and I hope to God heā€™ll prove that with us.

16 Apr 2024 12:30:53
Few things,

All footballers are arrogent, you have to be to make it. To train hard and believe you can make it there has to be an air of arrogance. The name thing when scoring is what players do.

This behind the scenes stuffā€¦. Give it a rest, this is not another oā€™ Leary killing the club with a stupid book, it just pressure

Leeds, Ipswich, arsenal, Liverpool and lesciter are all feeling it at the momentā€¦ so is there a problem at every club? Course not so donā€™t put things there

Football is a hard game and pressure is a killer in any profession or walk of life.

It can often come down to luck. Like all teams above we played poorly against Sunderland but unlike every other club we was cheated with two clear pens.

Had we got them pressure lifts and maybe we beat Blackburn and go up as champs.

Pressure is everywhere, teams getting cheated is just at leeds

Long live farke.

{Ed025's Note - you make some valid points there Bermo..

16 Apr 2024 14:20:17
Completely agree Bermo šŸ‘.

16 Apr 2024 14:38:44
Why long live Farke bermo?
Whatā€™s that got to do with your post?
Thought your post was about teams getting cheated and luck.
Weird post mate.

16 Apr 2024 14:39:37
I hope it is just the case of us reading too much into it. Clearly, as things have gone off the rails a little, players are reacting in different ways. I think we would be equally surprised all the same if the players were behaving as if every was still going swimmingly.

A good result at boro is obviously important, but it might lift the mood and attitude for the last two games.

16 Apr 2024 14:58:46
OP good luck trying to. get an over confident cocky its all about me in a Revie squad with King Billy as captain at the helm . his attitide/ cockiness would NOT even get him access through the gates.

Summerville is the antithesis of side before self . so absloutely bizarre and uber contradictory of you OP given your posts over the years that you revel/ have no issue with it.

16 Apr 2024 15:26:27
Aus my long live farke sign off was just a sign of in my show of support for our manager. Who for me is the second best manager in my lifetime

So your right it was odd in context but not odd in sentiment

I would post long live lukic but he has retired so that would be really odd

That saidā€¦
Long live lukic.

16 Apr 2024 15:43:20
Some great points for sure Bermo.
Baz, those days are long gone for football Iā€™m afraid to say.

16 Apr 2024 16:01:20
Bright even modern day did Bielsa ever play Summerville?

16 Apr 2024 16:04:27
Baz, I don't think O/ P says he has no issue with it; he is not making it out to be as bigger deal as some. Quite frankly, my opinion is that CS has his mind elsewhere promoted or otherwise, but deep down we all know that anyway. You said he should be sold anyway because he's not good enough for the EPL, even though he is arguably our best player when on song.

To be honest, I couldn't give two hoots about his attitude / arrogance / smugness or whatever, as long as he does the business for the next 3 [or 6] games. Same for them all.

I might be a bit of a sentimentalist, but I think JR is worried without promotion, Leeds won't buy him [won't be able to afford him]; I think he wants to be at Leeds and there's a chance he won't be.

16 Apr 2024 16:50:25
Ani but with all about me players

when things go wrong ie defeats

" team harmony / spirit" evaporates super fast

A significant reason little ole League 1 Ipswich are ahead of Leeds, Leicester and Saints they have a better superb team spirit of honest pros each fighting 120% for the promotion cause . no big time Charlies planning their next move.

16 Apr 2024 17:36:14
I don't disagree with you Baz [maybe that's a first]; no doubt team harmony and spirit is hugely important; we're only speculating that we don't have it because of "sour" reaction of one or two players after some poor team performances.

As for Ipswich having no big time Charlies, well time will tell on that one, i. e. let's see how many are playing for them next season, promotion or otherwise. No doubt they have a great fighting / never give up spirit, but to be honest, so do we (most of the time) . We don't know what is being put in these guys heads; remember, they're basically kids, easily influenced.

16 Apr 2024 17:39:35
Think itā€™s harsh in Summerville

When players leaves itā€™s business. We support the club they are employees. If they do bad the club get rid of they do well they jump ship.

Iā€™m what other job would a promotion to a better company paying more be looked upon badly?

When many wanted to jump ship like gnoto and sinisterra Summerville didnā€™t. We should all remember that.

16 Apr 2024 18:04:46
Jimmy not perfect but this is pure scapegoatery. Our issues lie elsewhere.

16 Apr 2024 18:13:40
It's one of the issues Georgey and a fairly significant one . we stopped scoring winning playing well .
there are of course ( even ) more significant issues re the past 5 match woeful ru

Ani good to see you concur with the wisdom that is Baz! Progress ā˜ŗ.

16 Apr 2024 18:40:45
Perhaps as I'd advocated a rotating rest had been afforded Jimmy at the correct juncture we wouldn't be discussing this. Anthony has been criminally underused.

16 Apr 2024 19:31:50
You should write to Farke with your thoughts George, you are so clever. i think he would ask you to join his coaching team.

16 Apr 2024 19:58:00
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16 Apr 2024 20:45:38
Sounds like a very logical explanation and solution from George.

16 Apr 2024 21:07:27
Indeed. Gosh you are super clever as well Baz - if only you were manager instead of double title winning Farke.

16 Apr 2024 21:39:03
You are living āœØļø in tbe past Cuppa.

17 Apr 2024 14:19:24
ā€œPure scapegoateryā€; a good, and apt phrase there from George tbf.

17 Apr 2024 19:33:34
Cheers Brighty.

15 Apr 2024 11:54:35
Just seen the Team of the season.
3 Leeds 2 Leicester 1 Ipswich. On the whole can't really find too much wrong with it except If Rutter, Jimmy and Amps get in surely there is a place for Joe Rodon?

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15 Apr 2024 12:11:20
Rodon has been best CD all season

Leif Davis class at LB .

15 Apr 2024 16:58:34
Baz Davis sale cost us a certain Championship šŸ† title. Indicative of the threefold myopic rodent šŸ§  power.

15 Apr 2024 17:41:07
Too fricking true George .

Those Leif Davis 16 assists and 2 goals would have had us Champs by March.

15 Apr 2024 17:53:12
Davis is a typical beilsa defender, amazing going forward but awful at defending. Personally Iā€™m old school and like defenders to defend first

Anyone see the irony in that the most beilsa like defender was not given a chance and forced out of the club by, you guessed it! Belisa

Funny the statler and Waldorf of the group are moaning about losing a player that there god forced out?

Brilliant.

15 Apr 2024 22:03:16
Berm

1.Davis is a proven match winner at Champo level ; specialist in getting promoted

2.Bielsa loved and played ' Very good Davis '

3.You be wrong ; it was Orta and Marsch ( not Bielsa ) who foolishly sold Davis in July 2022.

4.I admire Bielsa first 3 years but he is not my " god " as you keep erroneously stating.

15 Apr 2024 22:05:17
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And Berm . any idea why in posts that do NOT even mention Bielsa , you go off on an obsessive rants about Bielsa!

Obsessed?

15 Apr 2024 22:07:57
Bermondsey, I think Bielsa agreed to his loan but Uncle Jesse actually sold Leif Davis to Ipswich
However, Bielsa clearly didn't rate him at that moment in time.

15 Apr 2024 22:33:43
Sorry Bermo but I think youā€™re wrong on this one mate.
Davis was definitely loaned out by MB to get first team experience but he was sacked a good few months before Davis was sold by Leeds.
Statler and Waldorf love it šŸ¤£šŸ¤£.

15 Apr 2024 22:40:34
Davis left last year under Marsch.

15 Apr 2024 23:43:39
Wrong ( as usual ) Berma on all counts šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£

1) Davis defensively would not have much to do this season . Whereas his assists would ensure Leeds were champions

2 ) Bielsa liked " very good Davis " and played him.

3) Leif Davis was sold by clueless Victor Orta and Jesse Marsch ( NOT Bielsa ) in July 2025 .5 months after Bielsa had left the club!

16 Apr 2024 08:44:45
Bielsa still living rent free in Berma's mind.

16 Apr 2024 08:51:19
Berm So Jesse Marsch is Marcelo Bielsa. Nice plot twist!

16 Apr 2024 10:05:40
I Don't think it was a case of anyone being forced out berm. Bielsa had Davis in a lot of his first team squads. It was more his age and timing. We had more experience in front of him including dallas.

We went into the prem and Davis was never going to be first choice. It took him a move to league one and now the championship and I still think he might struggle with the prem if they go up. I would have given him a couple of loans but I don't know what his contract details were.

I think it happened with a few of our youngsters. Our rise under bielsa was that rapid that young players bought for a middling championship team were suddenly faced with developing and breaking into a championship winning or a prem side.

16 Apr 2024 10:06:37
They forgot to the 3 own goals šŸ¤£šŸ¤£.

16 Apr 2024 12:35:15
No all that was just to bate my new mate baz who I have found in real life!

Belisa clearly didnā€™t rate him or give him game time but of course he was sold by marche

Just new that by mentioning baz god bubs Iā€™d get a torrid of rants from bazā€¦. because I live in his head

So sorry group but I couldnā€™t resist bating the little baz fishy and he took the Bate hook line and sinkerā€¦ posting one rant twice! Brilliant

In other news mr baz now I know who you are in real life we going to meet up mateā€¦ maybe go fishing?

16 Apr 2024 13:23:11
Iā€™m sorry Baz, but your beef on Davis being sold is very much with the benefit of hindsight. Up to the point of his sale he had very little first team experience, partly through manager preference and partly due to a succession of niggling injuries. He had just spent a season in the Championship with Bournemouth, during which he made the match day squad for just 17 of 46 fixtures, starting just 7 times, being subbed on 5 times and amassing a total of less than 600 minutes. Granted, he started each of their three cup games, but over the season he played less than 850 minutes, and chipped in with just 1 assist. The previous season, he was in Bielsaā€™s Prem squad for 25 of the 38 matches, getting 2 sub appearances for a total of 31 minutes under Bielsa. It was Bielsaā€™s decision to let him go on loan the next season. Bielsa had included him in the previous seasonā€™s Champ match day squad 11 times, handing him 3 sub appearances for a total of 13 minutes.

When he was sold in July 2022, there was little evidence to suggest that he would become a reliable option for the Prem, which was the level we were playing at. Granted the same could have been said of Firpo, but Davis was not the obvious answer to that problem. In relation to Davis specifically, ideally we would have sent him out for another Champ loan, giving him a further opportunity to develop, and to show he could be a reliable (form and fitness) option at that, and possibly Prem level. Unfortunately, his contract was expiring in June 23, so a new or extended contract would have been needed. Davis himself wanted some certainty in his future and didnā€™t favour a further loan with the possibility he might later establish himself at Leeds but rather to become settled somewhere as a first teamer - ruling out agreement on new/ extended contract - so at that point all available evidence suggested the best option for the Club was to cash in on him then, rather than lose for free at the end of the season. Even if he had agreed to go out on loan again, Davis would have been a free agent last summer, with no guarantee heā€™d have agreed a new deal at that point, if indeed Farke had wished to offer one.

Can you point us to any contrary evidence at the point he was sold (July 22) , which suggested that Davis would become a reliable attacking fullback at Champ level, let alone a reliable option at Prem level, which is where he would have had to play had he stayed at Leeds that season, and where we desperately hope we will be playing next season? Given the defensive shortcomings others have alluded to, if we do manage to get promoted, would you be advocating his starting in the Prem next season?

16 Apr 2024 14:15:39
And as a follow-on question (to both Baz and George) , if our current owner, director and management structure had been in place in July 22, do you honestly believe that (on the basis of the evidence to that point) they would have kept Leif Davis at Leeds with a promise of significant Prem first team involvement that season and thereby convinced him to sign a new or extended contract?

16 Apr 2024 14:39:38
Clu ; your point about his remaining length of contract 1 year is valid.

The rest of your post is seemingly all conjecture because I don't recall what you suggest these details being reported in press. and a lot of what is reported, in press isn't even true/ click bait/ club propaganda etc as you well know and remind us frequently.

so unless your Uncle Victor told you ( and again still could be false) Or perhaps more pertinently for accuracy you are Leif Davis agent you don't know what was really offered/ happened or not offered Clu.

As for Davis alleged defiencies . not only is he far better than Firpo going forward, he also is ( far) better defensively which isn't difficult as Firpo is shockingly bad defensively!

Clu have a poll of Leeds supporters who they would prefer in EPL / Champo

Davis or Firpo?

95 per cent plus choose Davis over Firpo.

16 Apr 2024 14:49:06
As for your follow up question Clu . why not? Certainly as one of several LBs at club . all professionally well run clubs should hsve at least 2 Left footed LBs in their squad

Instead SF49ers unbelievably have just one left footed LB in their squad! . an over sight which has caused Leeds issues and problems.

16 Apr 2024 15:28:24
Clue are you accusing baz of being captain hindsightā€¦. never

Here is a baz like prediction from berm the original oricle

Baz will make another five highlight posts this season full of hyperbole.

16 Apr 2024 17:06:00
Clu If I may interject I know that Liverpool enquired about buying Davis and a Ā£4M bid was rumoured to be lodged by them. I had seen enough of Davis to know he would have been an asset. Part of good club strategy is to retain players good enough to get you promoted in event of your relegation. He was such a player.

16 Apr 2024 19:14:36
Far too much hindsight going on here concerning Lief Davis, nobody was raving about him before as much as Jimmy wasnā€™t being raved about.
Yes he does look a decent prospect now but this is all as I said, in the benefit of hindsight. What Clu has posted is as it was and thatā€™s it.
Stop trying to make out that we all knew he was going to come a decent player in the Championship.

The made up I told you so stories are very boring.

16 Apr 2024 19:23:51
Facts are back in Summer of 2022 George and mysel were against the SALE of Leif Davis and had similar debates on it with Clu.

Nothing " made up " about it OP. try and keep it real.

16 Apr 2024 20:04:10
Baz while he was at Leeds playing or not because he was injured so often nobody including you and George were raving about the great talent of Leif Davis.
Keep it real yourself, please.

16 Apr 2024 20:15:23
Raving no but rating enough yes.

16 Apr 2024 20:46:12
Well put Cluey! Good to see you popping back. Hope youā€™re doing well pal!?

16 Apr 2024 21:05:00
Good to see you Clu - hope you are well fellah.

 


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