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23 Apr 2018 12:46:42
Leeds very lucky on Saturday . definate penalty for Pennington trip on Hamill. BPF would have saved it ?

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23 Apr 2018 11:36:21
Why not say sod it for Norwich and QPR and just play some young guns. Possibly Clarke or Edmundson with Rey in midfield and a couple more on the bench ready. Of course the crowd, as they enter, must first sign a promissory note not to get on their backs if they make mistakes. Certainly the only way to see how they will react to a proper game is give them a go. Even if just 45mins keep them keen. I guarantee that once tasted they will be more than eager next year to see some action. I always remember a manager in the 40s (can't remember who it was) used to ban the footballs in training in the theory that it will make them all the eager, come Saturday.

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23 Apr 2018 21:26:46
Hosannah, Rey, Clarke and Dalby all need to come in based on the drubbing the 23's have just dished out again tonight. Maybe for the last game, just to let them experience a full Elland road, against an average qpr team.

23 Apr 2018 22:55:11
And Madger Gomes did well to set up a couple too!

23 Apr 2018 07:54:18
As the whole debate over Orta rages on, I would actually keep him in the club but it's his job title and role which wants a demotion and limiting. By all means he should be our Mediterranean youth scout but nothing more. He seems to have an ability to identify and acquire possible gems but that's it. He should have no extra role. Director of football is laughable. Give that role back to the manager in this case Hecky but don't see him lasting long either. We should really tempt Wenger with a new project in the summer. As for Orta, he should be nowhere near making first team player recruitment decisions but he does have a small applicable use. If only Radz would see that but he ain't a football person. To an extent we are still smarting from the shutdown of the academy by Massimo but we are back up and running on that now so it's time to award Orta his true title and if he don't like it he can sling his hook. I never liked him. I told all you guys after his first presser.

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23 Apr 2018 08:44:31
Quique Sanchez Flores has recently become available too ;-)

23 Apr 2018 09:00:13
A good post George. I agree a scouting post at best for him or he can do one. Would love to see Wenger come in as you say, but Radz seems to be content shopping in the bargain basement.

23 Apr 2018 11:25:30
There's nothing wrong with scouting in the bargain basement if that's all you can afford. I would love to buy from Harvey Nicks but you are more likely to find me in the market. I make the best of what I can afford and sometimes I stumble on real bargains.

23 Apr 2018 12:27:24
Fair point, but we are talking about Leeds United here, and getting bargain basement signings we will always struggle to get the promotion everybody who supports the Club want to see.

23 Apr 2018 14:52:19
With the mention of Mr Wenger, I'm sure he was a man to go and find some outstanding youths from overseas, offer him the DoF role, although he will be moved upstairs at the gooners

23 Apr 2018 20:43:40
Has everyone on here been smoking some seriously strong strain of super skunk or something? Wenger ! Wenger! Really? We’ve got more chance of platting diarrhoea! Most of Europe’s elite will be making offers to Wenger not to mention the Chinese and Japanese and probably the MLS offering insane pay, so I ask again why would Wenger come to leeds? I love our club but it’s time a lot of the fans took a huge reality check! We are no longer a big draw we are no longer a big club we are a small team. The only thing big about our club is it’s fans and our loyalty. I genuinely fear I will never see my beloved club back where it belongs.

23 Apr 2018 20:57:14
Great post George. Orta as you say has a role to play but not as now. Its time to hire a manager with control over the first team and Orta as chief of overseas scouting. Heres hoping.

23 Apr 2018 22:57:22
Dleedsm. yep. Anyone mentioning Wenger needs to send whatever they're drinking or smoking to my PO Box number, which I can provide privately!

24 Apr 2018 05:05:40
Thanks guys. As for Wenger, of course it's unrealistic but that's what we should be doing. He won't go upstairs at Arsenal immediately or at all because the new manager will feel intimidated. Neither will he manage a team presently in the PL. No point. He would need a different project. He'll get offers for sure from China but maybe money isn't important to him and maybe staying in England is. He's been complimentary about Leeds in the past. Maybe a million pound a year salary would tempt him and chance to work with our youngsters. Radz needs to aim higher than wot the.

{Ed001's Note - I would not expect you can compete with PSG Georgie. They have a role for him. Especially as Wenger has very publicly said he does not want to work for another English club other than Arsenal. Doesn't hurt to try though I guess.}

24 Apr 2018 05:49:34
Ed001 PSG well and truly out of our league. Surely though the allure of Yorkshire folk, working with the likes of Sacko, Grot and that defensive genius Cooper would be sufficient to see him work at ER and refuse those millions a year working in your home country for a highly successful and financially mighty club?

{Ed001's Note - like I said it would be worth a try, as obviously PSG's pittance can't compare with the draw of the Yorkshire Dales. I just think his insistence he does not want to work for another English club other than Arsenal might sway him towards the lesser option of little PSG.}

Review Of The Day 23rd April 2018

23 Apr 2018 07:41:50
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 23rd April 2018

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22 Apr 2018 19:14:36
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Fraser Forster

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22 Apr 2018 18:04:22
So Kyle Bartley came on as substitute to captain his team at Old Turdford today. But you can just tell he was wishing he was Elland Road instead. Not

{Ed001's Note - erm Speedy, Man City play at the Etihad mate. Even if he had been facing Man Utd, they were at Wembley today. You really are a little lost without Berm around as much aren't you? The pain is getting to you now. Should I get the Samaritans number for you?}

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22 Apr 2018 18:21:18
I have it on speed dial thanks. But I got the right city innit. Stop nit picking

{Ed001's Note - I can't help being a pedant mate. It is my only pleasure in life, don't take it away from me!}

22 Apr 2018 18:24:38
And wasn't it yesterday they were at Wembley? Touche 😂😂

{Ed001's Note - ooooo good point well made! Dammit.}

23 Apr 2018 00:28:22
Full church wedding for you two or a simple registry office?

23 Apr 2018 11:57:29
Hi GIW, I've been reliably informed that they are having an old skool reunion wedding. They're having it on Cellinio's yacht and Jeff is going to do the ceremony.

22 Apr 2018 14:37:31
I seriously would not believe any transfer talk we are seeing on social media or in the dross news papers etc. I firmly believe we will recruit better this summer simply because even stevie wonder could see this lot are not good enough! And let's see if the owner is true to his word of doing it the wolves way. Also think He k will be gone after the first 6 games next season unless we have a strong start again.

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22 Apr 2018 16:58:57
After Radz's major rant about Wolves and letter to the FA has there been an official response and clarification of the issues raised? Radz seems quiet since then (a good thing imo! ) . I still believe if the board/management don't really know what they are doing then this hardly instills confidence/respect down the line.

22 Apr 2018 18:13:27
Personally LS11, I’d love to see us blood the young guns . Clearly there is some talent in the ranks a few proven quality championship or premiership players ( loans if needed ) I’ve felt for a long time that the pressure of expectancy and the fan base at Elland Road seems to weigh more against our own players than most away sides, as much as the right playing ability it getting the right personalities . And that is not going to be easy too achieve.

22 Apr 2018 20:25:43
Yes blood the young uns then get ready to sell em. Ballace Ortas books.

22 Apr 2018 10:12:37
As this season draws to an end us diehards are already starting to dream about next season and the promise of a top 6 finish, new players coming in, Max Gradel returning etc etc. What is concerning me is our player recruitment and the seemingly lack of communication between the first team set up and the U 23's. Point in fact is Tom Pearce, whose impact has been fantastic. He has good positional sense, defends well and wants the ball. Surely that was the case in January and if so why did we pay out good money on De Bock? O'Connor and Peacock-Farrell too have fitted in seamlessly and in all honesty look as though they know what they are doing compared to the rest of them. All three of these young lads only got a chance as a last resort and that is worrying in itself. The manager and coaches should have been able to see their talent before and put them in the squad at least. We now have 3 first teamers by luck rather than design.

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22 Apr 2018 12:06:25
Powers to be are just winging it. A lot of these young lads coming through were already in our youth set up. But orta and radz will take the credit no doubt.

22 Apr 2018 13:27:34
Good point Will.

22 Apr 2018 15:40:48
Top 6 Finnish. ? Should be top of the league anything less is not good enough, in my book,

22 Apr 2018 16:07:12
There's an element of design as well as the luck, they're young and needed introducing to the first team set-up slowly. If they'd been thrown in earlier and had a bad game or two half of the posters here would have been calling for their heads . and blaming Orta for signing them, but, because they're good . it's nothing to do with Orta is it?

22 Apr 2018 22:51:53
I would like to know the thinking AL behind the design that sticks three untried and untested lads into a side devoid of confidence and on a losing streak. My point is Orta is a “football man” it is his JOB to recognise talented footballers and bring them to our club to improve it. De Bock hasn’t Pearce has.

22 Apr 2018 23:21:12
Offs didn't sign a lot of them. fact!

22 Apr 2018 09:37:03
The media and a few others have highlighted quite rightly the success our development squads are having. However i think credit is going to the wrong person in Orta. The majority of the squads are Cellino prodigies. Lads like Clarke, Dalby, Edmonson have been found by our local scouting network so i can't credit Orta with them either. Just watched some vids of u18s games and KunT looks the package but the stand out for me is Bobby Kamwa their top scorer who seems to be overlooked for praise. Edmonson a close third. U23s only Orta buy that stands out is Machuca, who should be around first team next season in my opinion. The polish goalie looks decent but no better than Huffer. So let's not get the young ones success out of proportion, Orta so far has unearthed two possibles for the future. A lot of his signings are noticeable by their absence. And we all know his success rate with first team signings.

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22 Apr 2018 10:06:44
Didn't we sign Dalby and Edmondson this season ?

22 Apr 2018 10:35:10
Yes but i pointed out they would have come through our domestic networks that have been in place for decades so Orta can't take credit for them. Its our international scouting system that has new faces running them. Yes Orta is director of football and ultimately responsible for signings but i doubt he personally scouted these lads. What he brings in in the summer will show how committed he and radz are to getting us promoted or is it just about the money again.

22 Apr 2018 10:51:30
I personally think it is the latter and would explain why Orta is not leaving as he is on a cushy number

22 Apr 2018 12:11:59
Totally spot on BIGE, exactly what I had said in a previous reply. Most young ones now coming through were already in our youth system, not down to Orta or Radz.

22 Apr 2018 16:01:57
Bloody hell . please try not to give Orta any credit whatsoever eh?

22 Apr 2018 16:08:14
Didn't Cellino run our former scouting networks down to almost nothing, and Orta has rebuilt them?

22 Apr 2018 16:37:08
It was Bates who absolutely slaughtered our youth network to cut costs. Cellino partially invested in youth, while re opening certain development centres. The investment by Radz is well above what we have seen since theWilko and Ridsdale eras. BIGE is right, a lot of the talent now coming through at 18 and 23 level have been on the books a longtime, barring The recent signings.

22 Apr 2018 17:37:20
AL sure i gave Orta credit for KunT and Machuca. They still got to make it to first team though, but if they sell for 5mill each in a couple of years sure Radz will see that as job well done.

22 Apr 2018 20:26:39
You’re right Al Cellini sacked all the club scouts along with lots of other members of staff.

22 Apr 2018 09:33:19
Reflecting on yesterday's performance, a win is a win and I am grateful for that, but there were two bad sides on show so it is obvious a major clear out is required from top to bottom. I must say chopping and changing Manager's isn't good, but I really find it difficult to believe Heckingbottom is the man for Leeds, if he stays I hope he proves me wrong. For me I would also like to see the back of Orta and Kinnear and the Club show some real ambition and make appointments that will give the fans some real hope for next season because the support has been amazing this season despite the dross we have been watching especially since Christmas.

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22 Apr 2018 12:20:30
3 wins this year is poor whatever spin you wish to put on things. Definitely not what we as Leeds fans were hoping for or expected this season. The fans have played their part this season by turning out in our masses to support the team and club. Management and poor players to blame for this season's failure.


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