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18 Mar 2024 12:01:07
So we have caught the incatchable and the fab 4 are down to the thrilling 3, feel it's too much and too late for Southampton to be involved. DF just has to be lauded for what he has achieved in 38 games. To be a successful manager you need to be proficient in so many aspects it would give a plate spinner vertigo and his man management is second to none, the guy is a legend already and I have no doubt given the resources and support he needs we will be competitive in the prem. I predict a riot in May, just in time for me 59th birfday 😁.

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18 Mar 2024 12:20:00
If Southampton win their 2 games in hand they are just 3 points behind Leeds.

18 Mar 2024 12:54:40
Hmmmm, an if my auntie had bollox she would be me uncle. Points in the bag please every time, especially now the pressure is really on 😁.

18 Mar 2024 12:54:46
I reckon Vid has had a bet😉.

18 Mar 2024 13:10:21
Agree points in bag is a better position of course.

We shall find out soon enough though Vid if you were far too presumptuous in your dismissal of Saints.

18 Mar 2024 15:05:43
Hopefully we can carry on our good form into the next three games as think they will be tough games. Luckily the other teams in the top 4 have some tough games left to play (as well as against each other and teams in the top 7) . A few have to play Boro as well so hopefully Bill can help us out 🤞.

18 Mar 2024 15:20:08
And that perhaps you were far too presumptuous that we would never make automatic promotion let alone win this league.
But hey what do I know, maybe we completely bail out in these last eight games for the autos and collapse in the playoffs to end up with nothing.?

18 Mar 2024 15:25:57
Hopefully not OP . but it wouldn't be the first time of happening as you well know.

18 Mar 2024 15:32:19
It’s also worth noting that Southampton have to play us Leicester and Ipswich all away and you’d have to presume that they would have to win all these six pointer games. Likely? well if they do they definitely deserve to be promoted in my opinion.

18 Mar 2024 15:32:34
Well Baz, seeing as Saints still have to play Leicester and Ipswich if you are right they will aid us and still at best be 3 points behind then have to beat us by a mammoth score at ER 😁.

18 Mar 2024 15:39:04
Easter can be make or break as we well know. Two victories would be most welcome. Anyway, let's enjoy the calm before the storm!

18 Mar 2024 16:00:00
Fair comments Vid and OP on Saints having 3 extremely difficult away fixtures at Leeds, Ipswich and Leicester.

18 Mar 2024 17:34:24
Wouldn't rule anyone out at this stage as the champo is terribly unpredictable, but for all intents and purposes, they have some catching up to do. Is it doable? In my opinion, unlikely, but you never know. Just make sure we keep winning and it won't be an issue.

18 Mar 2024 17:50:00
True Dill, but the big thing is time and games are running out, draws are now killers, only victories will do, plus you need favours from other teams, really quick batch of games over/ just after Easter and if the gap has not closed significantly it's so difficult with a handful of games left.

18 Mar 2024 19:01:40
Those games in hand are squeezed into a very hectic run in, which we, as yet, do not have to face.

18 Mar 2024 11:07:45
Just watched the game (back from Mrs Class birthday weekend) and what a superbly measured performance against a team who give new meaning to the word dark arts! But love our skinny little fighter Gruev who never shirks a battle.

How a referee and his two assistants could not arrive at a correct decision of a penalty (GBH) and dismiss Jake Cooper beggars belief.

But I’m with Ani and his excellent assessment that discussing contentious decisions is still far more preferable to stop start VAR fiasco in the epl who still get as many decisions wrong as right.

My reason for writing is in praise of Farley’s tactical change. Think it’s fair to say we’ve been (deliberately) conservative in our approach play in particular since Amps has gone into the back line, rather than tearing into opponents we are more Citeh like in passing sideways in and around our 18 yard box, and appear to go backwards when it seems we are in a strong position to attack?

I believe Farkey realised teams had worked us out previously in particular with a low block and now, either before, and then even more so after our first goal we hold onto the ball in and around our eighteen yard box and say to the opposition here’s the ball you’ll have to come up here to get it though.

Now admittedly it can be frustrating and plays havoc with my old ticker but it’s working as it creates pockets of space for Gio to exploit and with amps range of passing and bam bams willingness to run in behind it sews doubt into the oppositions defence to go tight or drop off.

Again, not the prettiest at times and not without risk of getting caught in possession but it’s working, and if it works until the final game then all hail mr farkes genius to adapt and play differently.

Special mention for Gio yesterday who along with Amps and Rodon is probably now irreplaceable and does what no other player in the division can do.

Mot but one game at a time I’m not underestimating just how tough this league and every game is to win.

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18 Mar 2024 11:49:50
Interesting post Class
BUT that tactic definitely has significant risks when it is level especially .

. to be frank 1st half against some teams away this year we could/ should have been 1 or 2 goals down in 1st half

Leeds have at times been awful in their slow ponderous play 1st half and very lucky to get away with it!

18 Mar 2024 12:21:18
Good post and explanation of going from attack to our back line. You maybe right. It def is frustrating to watch. But. We are looking assured and nigh on unbeatable at the moment. The last couple games I never once thought we would lose. We control games most of the time, in possession and out.
Wall were appalling skill wise and dirty too.
But you would have to use the dirty word re ref. I’m convinced he got a pay off yesterday. That thuggery in penalty area has to be reviewed.
It’s going to be a roller coaster. But we in control. Any 2 from 4 still.

18 Mar 2024 12:29:44
Being top of the league Baz must be very difficult for you to swallow I imagine, given your impressive predictions. 😉
You never took into consideration the situation that severely hampered the start of our season and that obviously away games would be more challenging until our team would pick up its full momentum.
You totally underestimated Farke and the players we have, you completely berated the club for not buying more and more players in January and now that is fully vindicated that it was not necessary, especially when we’ve won almost every game since January 1st.

I could go on but I’m bored and need to walk the dog.

18 Mar 2024 12:44:17
Delighted Leeds are top of League OP and hopefully Leeds will go up OP.

But hold your horses just yet. facts are 3 other teams have virtually the same points . so whilst it has been a fabulous 2024 for results so far . it will count for nothing if we don't go up

Some on here have erronously ruled out Ipswich and now Saints .

18 Mar 2024 13:17:08
If you read my posts properly you will see that I am very humble about where we are because I know in football anything can change. I can also tell from the interviews with the players, they also understand that we have achieved nothing yet until the last game of the season is concluded.
I still stay with my forecast that I made at the beginning of the season that we will win this league, I do believe Class also made that same forecast if I’m not wrong.
Onwards and Upwards.

18 Mar 2024 13:57:58
Come on Baz “Virtually 3 other teams have the same points” what sort of a statement is that? That has got to be one of the most nonsensical things you’ve posted, Leicester yes but Ipswich and Southampton no, and as Vid says I would rather have the points on the board! That as well as the run we are on, no one else is apart from maybe Ipswich. Come on Baz, it is what it is and we are it mate so happy days for all the rose tinted boys 👍👍👍👍👍👍.

18 Mar 2024 14:49:51
My dear Woody

re read my post and then your post ; I stated ' 3 other teams have virtually the same points '

Leicester identical ( with one game in hand ) .

Ipswich one point behind ( so virtually identical. )

Southampton. ok 9 points behind. but 2 games in hand . if they win those 3 points behind out of 81 ( virtually identical )

But yes looking much more promising than 2 months ago.

18 Mar 2024 15:36:31
Yes, OP, had two bets, with one to go up as champions and another automatic promotion, BUT, in agreement re maintaining a humble quiet disposition until the weight watchers lady finally sings, as nothing is certain other than a resolute belief in Farkey and the boys, but in football parlance (especially with refs like yesterday) one game at a time, let’s see where it takes us.

18 Mar 2024 15:50:16
It’s all nit picking just enjoy where we are no matter your right I am wrong team I am always wrong so what that’s how the world goes round have a 😃 happy day for all surely, but Baz is right🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

18 Mar 2024 16:17:38
Yes! 😂🤣 Naturally. You know it Whitey 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

18 Mar 2024 17:15:41
If nitpicking is the game, someone needs to review the definition of “identical”.
No such thing as virtually identical. As Master Yoda would say; “ It is, or is not! ”.

18 Mar 2024 17:38:22
Great post, class. Playing lateral and horseshoe passing patterns is a good way to stretch play and draw out low blocks. We can't always penetrate effectively playing vertically, as much as we would all like us to. It's generally smart play as long as its used in conjunction with trying progressive stuff, rather than it being either or.

18 Mar 2024 17:43:13
Bright 😂we are all on the same side🤣🤣.

18 Mar 2024 18:37:29
Brighty Yoda.

I wrote in my initial post 'virtually the same' ( which is 100 % correct)

By the way having just checked with Collins dictionary and Cambridge dictionary. the collocation ' virtually identical ' does exist, is permissable and is terminology to use also.

18 Mar 2024 19:07:55
Lol! I just knew you’d look it up Baz. The English language just ain’t what it used to be!

18 Mar 2024 19:10:17
Ah, but it’s a collocation, which is tantamount to “by ‘eckers like” having a definition too. These millennials who have created a plethora of sexes will destroy our once fine language!

18 Mar 2024 20:04:39
Brighty 😀

Seeing as you like to quote Yoda :

The following is apt:

' Always pass on what you have learned ' 😉.

19 Mar 2024 06:49:34
My Jack Russel is called Yoda, Baz, so yeah, love both of the little dudes! 😀👍🏻.

19 Mar 2024 08:48:29
taking into account all your predictions guys, about the top four and who plays who and what points we got etc etc, let's just hope that, joe, amps, DJ and connor come back injury free from international duty. or we could be up a the creek without a paddle.

19 Mar 2024 12:09:09
Totally Revie!

18 Mar 2024 10:50:47
Watching replays of Gnonto goal the word Yeboahish has entered my head.

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18 Mar 2024 11:11:43
It waa a good goal certainly.

a routine goal though for the extraordinary talent of King Tony Yeboah.

18 Mar 2024 11:22:40
A tad OTT TM. Damn good goal although not in the Yeboah category.

18 Mar 2024 12:12:45
I said exactly that yesterday Topman.

18 Mar 2024 12:22:27
Not yebs category. But he knows how to score that boy. Give him that.

18 Mar 2024 22:20:30
It wasn't as worldy as some of Yeboah's but the way he took it on and such a sweet strike reminded me of the Ghanaian.

19 Mar 2024 09:33:43
Gnonto is not up to Tony's standards yet with a few years maturing to do. But willy does have the same bullish physique and a little bit of that thunder in his boots.

18 Mar 2024 07:32:29
Maybe Marcelo was 100% correct to continue pursuing DJ in the way he did after all!? He certainly saw something! And massive credit goes to Farke for developing him, and his self belief, as the player himself admits. I now believe he can take him further in the PL too.

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18 Mar 2024 07:43:11
I don’t think it’s any coincidence that DJ’s form has taken an upturn on the arrival of Herr Farke.
Let’s hope he can now translate this great form into the Premiership, should we go up.

18 Mar 2024 08:48:54
Big improvement in Dj and Gio.
Can he weave his magic wand on Bambi and piroe next. Ta.

18 Mar 2024 10:24:30
More like there was always a good player there who needed to be given a long run of games in his natural position right wing ( not CF)

With currently 12 goals, DJ has surpassed even my pre season prediction of him scoring 10 goals.

18 Mar 2024 11:09:16
He played quite a lot on his right wing position for us but was rarely effective same at Man Utd and on loan at Fulham.
No doubt in my mind that Farke and his coaching staff have ironed out in inefficiencies and now he can assist and score goals.
There’s not much to divide between Gnonto and James, both scoring goals. I feel Willy deserves his place after James had a little dip in form a little while back so doesn’t merit to be dropped.
It’s a pity we can’t start with both of them.
Makes great competition for places when you have both players like this on fire vying for a start.

18 Mar 2024 11:37:46
DJ never given a run of games on RW previously and often on bench though OP

And what's with the " dip in form" nonsense 🤔

Facts are in January 2024 immediately before his injury at Norwich . DJ scored in the 3 previous EPL wins against Birmingam, Preston and Cardiff

DJ was in great form.

18 Mar 2024 12:16:26
Just my assumption, maybe from that mid December period? More likely though I believe it’s probably about DJ’s devastating pace coming on later in the game causes so many problems for the tiring opposition?, but I’m sure you know more than Farke for the reasons why he should start with James over Gnonto.

18 Mar 2024 12:35:27
Yes OP your assumption was wholly erroneous. DJ a man in form

And defenders tired or not is a moot point . as DJ devastating pace is too much for them even start of matches

FACTS are when DJ starts matches he is often the " GO TO MAIN MAN ' to get that crucial first goal early in first half.

18 Mar 2024 13:23:27
I really don’t know if you are being lighthearted and having a bit of fun, or being fiercely serious Baz, whichever, it’s fine by me, I won’t be losing any sleep over it.

18 Mar 2024 15:00:00
I am being factual OP . that peeves you a lot. but it is what it is.

18 Mar 2024 15:40:23
Facts and stats don’t win titles, being smart and outwitting your opponents does.
Think I trust in Farkes choice of match day team sheets than yours Baz, with all due respect.

18 Mar 2024 17:18:03
Gnonto is also “a man on form”. DJ is not displacing him, as he doesn’t deserve to be dropped. The point about DJ and tired legs, is also most certainly not moot.

18 Mar 2024 06:51:20
Absolutely delighted with the result yesterday and all the players gave their 100% to that game. Even playing against opponents who have to succumb to dirty tactics as they know that they can not compete against our quality.
Not withstanding that we also have to deal with the extremely poor quality of referring in this league.
I’m still shaking my head how the ref never awarded a pen for that clear as day foul or thuggery of Cooper on Rodon.
For all the fans who complain about VAR, think again, the fact that we are not mentioning that incident much is acknowledging that we accept it and are used to this very poor standard of refereeing on a consistent basis.
Just because we won the game it’s no reason to be not furious about it.
For certain fans who think we should be winning these games 3 or 4 nil is not about which player should be starting over another or about another player looks sluggish, your answers are in how these type of opponents play against us and the very poor standard of refereeing.

Well done Farke and his boys for giving their upmost in this very difficult and challenging league. 👏🏻.

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18 Mar 2024 07:42:00
Spot on OP. That ref needs striking off the ref register as much as Ridsdale did from the directors register! Millwall were appalling in the manner of their approach, and should quite probably been down to 9 by the end. A great win in the face of adversity!

18 Mar 2024 07:58:22
My mate who is a wall fan said I never ever think a ref is in our favour but yesterday it’s clear the ref was a wall fan!

Still normally refs cost us points this year they have but on the whole we’ve beaten 12 men every week!

18 Mar 2024 08:02:24
I agree with most of what you say OP, with the exception of VAR. I would take questionable refereeing over VAR any day. I despise it and what it is doing to the game. Our 2nd would have been ruled out yesterday and Leicester’s 2nd would have stood. VAR was brought in to prevent the obvious mistakes; it fails at that week in week out, plus it now re-refs the non-obvious mistakes on top. Refs make mistakes, but no where near as many that players make each game. I may be sentimental traditionalist, but I prefer to talk about about contentious issues within / about the game rather than a stupid VAR decision that I didn’t see or understand…or didn’t need.

18 Mar 2024 08:51:08
Why rule our second out?

18 Mar 2024 10:01:43
Gio by var standards was off side by a right foot aus.
I for one have not missed var this season. As has been mentioned it may hae given us a couple of extra penalties but so what.
Also it would have slowed down games further when some teams try that anyway.
My thoughts on the rodon pen was that if Joe got more of a definite touch on the ball it would have been given. As it was neither players actually had control of the ball so you could argue that it was a coming together.
Cooper should have been given two yellows though.

18 Mar 2024 10:26:24
What Ben and Ani said.

18 Mar 2024 10:27:29
Why rule out a penalty and a player being sent off?
My opinion is that the ref after probably watching a replay at half time, knew he’d got it wrong, there were several decisions in the second half that he gave our way that clearly were not.
In another scenario that decision could have cost us the three points, what would the sentiment be then?

My feelings are not whether VAR should be in football or not, just the standard of referring being not so blatantly bad, especially in the Championship.

18 Mar 2024 12:24:14
I saw the replay and thought it was level.

18 Mar 2024 13:33:36
Aus was that the knee to the chin or the handball?
Judging by Cooper’s OTT performance in that first half, I would say It was pretty unmistakable that he thought his head was the ball.
No mistake in my mind that Cooper should have been sent off and the ref should go to specsavers or get a different job.

18 Mar 2024 01:29:12
Funny how things in football ⚽ work. From 17 points adrift New Year Eve and now look. Cellino hated and probably still does the number 17. Lucky ☘️ for us. 🤍💛💙.

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17 Mar 2024 22:44:33
Wanna make a point about Gnonto. He may of wanted out of our great club but wow what a turnaround. His work rate is phenomenal. He tracks back more often than the two stooges Baz n George!

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17 Mar 2024 23:04:07
Boom boom Cork.

18 Mar 2024 00:08:40
Agree cork. Very good performance.

18 Mar 2024 00:35:01
Berm ☝️🆙 Example of banter. No grumbling from me or Baz.

18 Mar 2024 07:05:17
George for it to be banter it has to be funny not personal or offensive.

I was in a pub full of wall fans as I always am … imagine being the only leeds fan in a school of 2k kids… believe me I know banter.

18 Mar 2024 07:35:27
Perhaps the reason being that the so called Banter comes from fellow Leeds fans makes it in effect, offensive?
I’ve met Leeds fans in many different countries on my travels and have only had amicable times with them.
Meeting fans on the internet is very different as there is no real human contact.
MOT, sometimes.

18 Mar 2024 07:44:32
You forgot “repetive, childish, and tedious” Bermo! It was bants (supposedly) a long time ago!

18 Mar 2024 07:58:56
Yeah bright very good point!

22 Mar 2024 17:22:58
Let’s move on from this seems it’s going on on on on don’t like move to fairy site kits in a play ground miss he won’t let me play oh my word.

17 Mar 2024 22:37:38
Leeds have NEVER bettered 25 wins from our first 38 league matches in a single season in the club's history.

Daniel Farke’s Leeds are enjoying an astonishing season. (@lufcdata)

Even Farke haters Baz and Aus have surely got to admit the man is a legend now don't they?

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17 Mar 2024 23:09:18
I already stated several times on this forum in 2024 Alf . that and J quote :


"2024 is fabulous set of results. kudos to Farke %

It was most certainly reasonable to question/ critique his away record in 2023 .6 defeats .3 in December as I correctly predicted.

18 Mar 2024 00:10:08
Legend? Ha ha. He has won nothing yet.
At the moment he is average. Winning all those games means nothing if we don’t go up.

18 Mar 2024 07:06:11
Statistically the best manager the leauge has ever seen….

18 Mar 2024 07:47:27
There is no denying he is a top class manager, who has a proven CV in this division, and is certainly delivering for us this season, despite facing an uphill struggle at the start of the season. We could possibly be in the clear by now at the top had he not had to handle the tricky pre season.

18 Mar 2024 10:42:52
Aus has a point; DF is far from very premature "legend" status given by Alf. these wins will count for absolutely nothing if we don't go up

It's also no coincidence that 3 of the top 4 are the EPL relegated teams with their far superior talent of squads . none of the regular champo teams have a £35 milion Geirgionio in their team for starters

No the REAL standout OVER PERFORMING manager of this Champo season has been McKenna at little ole League 1 Ipswich currently on 81 points in Champo yet with according to some on this forum a woefully carp Ipswich team.

Impressive.

18 Mar 2024 12:23:51
Farke has already won this league twice, so yes he has won. Whether he does it this year with us remains to be seen but the records he is setting will be around long after Farke has left the club and will go down in legend so I think he is also becoming a Leeds Legend as well. Achievements are more than just winning things.

Contradicting yourself there Baz as you claim O'Leary was a wonderful manager having not won anything and yet Farke isn't? You can't have it both ways.

18 Mar 2024 12:50:35
Alf . you seriously comparing trying to win Champo with trying to win far harder EPL and super hard / impossible for most clubs Champions League fgs

Give yer head a shake fella.

18 Mar 2024 22:21:54
You can only beat what's in front of you Baz.

17 Mar 2024 20:58:56
Did Rutter get MOM and if so why?
He gave the ball away numerous times, couldn't keep hold of it and his shooting was poor. I realize he got two assists but those stats imo are phoney as the first was a shovel pass and it was the genius of Willy that made the goal. Ok the second he done extremely well.
He does show moments of genius but in the top flight will be a liability on this and recent performances.
Harsh maybe but true.

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17 Mar 2024 21:51:01
Rodon or Ampadu should be MOM
Not Gio.

17 Mar 2024 22:46:37
Cork 🍾 UTWADTB.

17 Mar 2024 22:54:30
It was very frustrating watching him today trying the impossible. He needs to lift his head and look at the better options that are available. Lots of moans amongst the silent majority in the West Stand "Upper" today. He did though deliver the goods.

17 Mar 2024 23:59:26
Gio is maybe slowing a little this is his first full season playing first team football. But he keeps assisting and he keeps trying.
That's all we can ask. Hopefully after this break he'll be refreshed.

18 Mar 2024 07:15:01
Leading assist provider in the league. Can’t ask for more than what he is delivering. But definitely needs to work on that there shooting malarkey!

18 Mar 2024 08:09:34
Rutter was pulled and hacked down for most of the match, he and Cree are the two targets for the Neanderthal opposition. Opposing players won’t get away with that in the Premiership with VAR and refs who know the rules of football.

Rutter deserves all the plaudits he gets, a very young player who is evolving and will continue to with maturity.
We are very lucky to have him so enjoy and celebrate the time he is with us because the big guns will be after him in the not too distant future.

18 Mar 2024 12:27:09
Rutter is an odd one. 90% of his touches are like he hasn't worked out how long his legs are and his touch and shooting is woeful, but he has the talent and ability to change a game completely in that other 10% of the time and that's why he is key to our success and was the MOM yesterday. Without those flashes of brilliance that was 0-0.

18 Mar 2024 14:56:56
I agree Alf. Not sure about the nil nil score though?
It was the genius of Gnonto which gave us first goal.

18 Mar 2024 19:43:57
Hernia problem should be able to make sense of why, in some opinions, he's slowed a little.

17 Mar 2024 20:02:08
Hope you are enjoying getting one over your Millwall mates Berm, give them hell as they would be giving it you lots of crap 💩 mate. so bask in the glory of a superb win my friend 👍👍 MOT.

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17 Mar 2024 20:42:20
Loved it mate what a day to be alive!

 


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