Leeds Rumours Archive September 10 2012

 

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10 Sep 2012 21:33:10
Patjim Kasami going on a loan fulham willing to pay majority wages would be alright whilst jenas would be fantastic

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Cant afford anyone have to use the kids, now takeover not happing.

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Who say's the takeover isn't happening?. Last time I heard they were still at the table trying to get the deal pushed through and it is still possible it can go through.

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To the replier - Where is your evidence supporting your claim that the takeover isn't happening and where is your source saying we dont have the money to pay a tiny bit of wages of a player that wont be on alot anyway...? Love to know, although it is clear you have no source you're just another overly pessimistic doomsayer that just try to wind up all other Leeds fans.

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How is the second poster so sure the takeover isn't happening, inside info or more made up rubbish??

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Think it was not a takeover. just needed injection of cash for players. which we have to pay back. they now into pompey which will be done on friday.

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None of these players would need 2 much wage anyway as tottenham n fulham would pay most of the wages i assume so ppl r pathetic to think we have no money for wages as no one knows anythin about how much money we have so stop being mugs

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No made up rubbish, LUST have stated that the party interested still want the deal to go through. The meeting that happened on thursday was lawyers trying to get the deal through.

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10 Sep 2012 20:02:27
Jermaine Jenas and Cameron Jerome to sign this week on loan!

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They would bothe be fantastic loan signings, but really cant see Jerome coming.

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Here hoping this is tue theyd both do a job

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10 Sep 2012 21:25:49
HI all, ive not been on the site for a few days, but there seems to be 4 million floating round on a few posts...got me thinking. what if this whole investment thing was simply that.... just a small investment by a guy/group looking to make a good bussiness move, and the statements on the OS in may and then july could have just been blown well out of proportion..... i hate to be the miserable guy killing the buzz.....but its just a thaught....

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Because if it was just an investment which this apparent 4m has already been injected why wouldn't the OS have just said the investment has been completed... Think about it. Also due dilligence would not have been undertaken for a 4m investment. You're the one blowing it well out of proportion mate.

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10 Sep 2012 20:20:41
congrats has to go out to aidy white tonight who captained ireland to a 4-2 victory over italy u21, hopefully tom lees can come on as a sub for england and both return ready for action at cardiff

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10 Sep 2012 18:24:43
All,

We are Leeds United, yet at the moment our fanbase is anything but united!

If the takeover happens then brilliant, it should enable the club to move forward, however if it doesnt happen we are going to be stuck with Bates until someone else is interested in buying our club.

I personally would be against a boycott of the club. Lower attendances, selling less this and that on match days will only mean a reduction in turnover which could be enough for Bates to put us into administration. Players will be sold.

Although I can not afford to attend every game I attend when funds allow and I will continue to do so to give my suppport to the team and in my opinion to one of the best managers our club has had for a long time.

I know our squad is light, yet with some good loan signings, we still have a chance even in these difficult circumstances.

So I for one would appeal to you all to get behind the team and the manager.

WibseyWhite


the next consort as a club we should be able to move forward, however if it doesnt happen, it doesnt happen.

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What do you mean stuck with Bates until someone is interested in buying the club ?

There's a very wealthy group simply gagging to buy the club right now, and Bates ain't playing ball.

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Well said. Support our club

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Maybe that would be the best idea go into admin then let someone buy us with the passion to get usn promoted wether we sell the stadium out every week bates will sell players to give the club a false profit as he has done the last 4 seasons i wont attent elland road untill bates leaves this withh be the first time since 19 84 i havent had a season ticket and i wont attend untill he leaves

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A very respectful post, you clearly have thought about what you have put. I for one have been advocating a boycott of lufc and hitherto bates as i believe if he sees us as fans demonstrate unity and deprive him of income, he will understand once and for all he cannot push us around. Moreover i believe such a boycott will focus Kens mind on what i am sure is a mor ethan generous offer from the consortium ( rumoured to be in 50 mill region) This will constitute a significant profit for him.
I respect your stance and i hope you enjoy the games you are able to goto. I however will stay away until bates has gone. I love lufc and it saddens me to see what bates is doing to our club.

Best wishes.

LLHB MOT

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You can only go into admin if your debts exceed your cash flow. For the last bloody time we don't have any debts because one of the conditions of a CVA is that you cannot borrow anything for six years after much like an IVA but for companies

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Last poster - yes but if bates has put our debt(from originally buying /given the club) into a seperate offshore account, then the debt is hidden from the accounts and does not show up on any accounts until found by the potential buyers - this is whats holding up the buying of lufc - bates missing money/debts associated with lufc. the new buyers do not want to be stuck with a massive debt, which could be +20m, when master bates finally signs on that dotted line and it's obvious that they have found this out by trawling thru his accounts. it's not illegal what bates is doing, but it's very close to illegal!!

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To last poster what hidden debt, he bought the club in debt when HMRC wanted ridsdale unpaid tax along with wages for fowler he took un into administration then we went into an CVA simon Morris and his redbus group put in a rival offer and ken bates got 75.2% needed and agreed a per pence in the pound. The creditors agreed done.

You cannot borrow money for six years after so as you can see there is no other debt. What the sticking point is the clause that we get into premiership then who ever owned us will have to pay back the original debt five years after going into CVA

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10 Sep 2012 14:58:24
Everyone who shoots someone down when they say Leeds's accounts are in a mess by stating Leeds Utd turn a profit are technically correct but it is a false position.

When KB took over he paid for the debt Leeds had at the time out of his own pocket and put that account to one side, so all Leeds' debt is either in an account owned by KB or by one of his offshore companies, but not on the football clubs accounts. He can then say how great he looks bringing Leeds Utd out of debt and they are one of the only profit making clubs in England, which they are because most other clubs still have there debt on the clubs accounts not the chairman. There will be some payment made to help pay off the debt account but nothing like the repayments we had been making. All this makes Leeds a more appealing prospect when he wants to sell.

So we come to when KB wants to sell the club, the people buying the club are seeing a football club in profit with no debt, a good ground that can be upgraded fairly easily if necessary and excellent training facilities and thats all they want to pay for. But KB doesn't want that debt so is asking for the money to cover that too, but the new owners don't want to give him that money as it's not on Leeds books. They are happy to continue the repayments at the same rate that has been happening till now but don't want to pay it as a lump sum. So here we have the sticking point, if you notice everything started to go wrong after the period of due diligence when they got to look at the books. Something in the accounts must have been dodgy or Leeds would have been taken over a lot earlier.

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Any debt by definition, is owed to somebody else, so whether it is KB or a bank etc, it is an outstanding debt that requires repaying and will be shown in Leeds accounts. This has nothing to do with profit, which is purely the balance of revenue and cost, whether that cost includes any repayments or interest for debt or not. Profit, does suggest that Leeds can support the repayments, but not if it has been funded by player sales, hence the reason for due diligence.

This appears to be just another misguided attempt to suggest you know what is holding up a process that is undoubtedly slow, but is obviously still ongoing.

Lets continue to wait and react to whether it completes or not, unless anyone feels that they have a genuine rumour or insider information, which I doubt! JH

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Haven't we sold our season ticket future sales to fund the ground redevelopment, so that mean no or little income for 2 years. Also I am not sure that ER or TA are owned by the club, so there could be rent payable on both. Not an attractive proposition for any investor

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Absolute rubbish, Leeds united as a football club owed over 125000000 fact under ridsdale. We as a club took out a CVA ken bates paid the negoiated rate with the CVA which was around in the end 36000000.

He has cleared the debt and the club operate on a profit because of this when you are in a CVA you cannot put your creditors debt to one side and pretend we don't owe that the whole point of a CVA and much like an IVA

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Listen, why would he pay X amounts of millions from his own pocket ?
So not only does he buy LUFC but he wipes the entire debt too ?
We weren't born yesterday fella give ur head a shake.
Put yourself in his shoes when buying Leeds, would you do it ?
Very much doubt it

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Bates bought Leeds United for x amount of
sold all assets ,paid himself the back that he spent buying the club and used the remaining amount over the yrs hes been at the club. gradually paying the debt we had at a reduced price .
I really don't think bates is that thick not to pay off a debt that he had in his own name as theres no way he could prove that it is debt of Leeds United. I thought he was supposed to be a good bushiness man but you just said he as made a school boy error . i wouldnt of made an error like that in primary school and im no bushiness man

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Only person profiting from Leeds is Mr Bates. that money may as well be paid in the tax he's avoiding.

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Your talking absolute rubbishe
1) You havent a clue about accounts and Profit and Loss, if you did, then you would understand the figures
2) Ken Bates never put a penny in at the start, he 'bought' the club after Leeds were being backed into a corner over true ownership.
3) Thorpe Arch and ER are owed and leased back to Leeds, the owners of TA and ER are based in the Caman Islands.
4) KB has stabilised the club, we are only 1 of a few clubs in the championship with little or no FOOTBALLING debt
5) The new boxes are COMMERCIAL debt and are therefore excluded from last years accounts and will be in this years accounts as a debt, but listed as an asset also.
6) KB wants out, but like any right minded person wont sign a piece of paper which staes if the new owners loose money that they paid say 50M bought but then worth 40M, KB would have to pay up 10M in a indemity clause- Who would!
7) No one actually know who is the mystery buyers, they could be worse than KB

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I do wish I had your contact who informs you about the way a business man who is so secretive that he wouldn't tell his wife how much he paid for a loaf of bread is conducting his accounts. God I love Leeds hate Bates and the people who if they don't know something make it up

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You lot need to wise up we cleared our debts by going into an IVA he stated how much we could afford the proposal went to the creditorsthey voted in favor and we cleared our debt. Google it Leeds united CVA

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CVA & IVA are arrangements where a company or individual can negotiate payment of a debt. Its set for a period of 5 years and the debt is settled once the agreed payments have been paid for this period. If your financial position changes within this period then the creditors can seek extra money. I think we can all assume that the period is over and our finances havent improved with Premiership promotion. DEBT SETTLED. Hidden debt ? Why would you hide debt when you can lump all debt in a single IVE/CVA ?

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You are talking rubbish. Leeds Uniteds debt was dealt with by administration and the club have only made a profit (a very modest one) in one year out of the seven under ken bates without taking account of player trading (selling assets every year). They currently have massive cash flow problems and are in a mess. Oh and by the way the ground is a tip and needs a fortune spending on it. Ken bates is a ruthless, opportunist without morals or integrity and the sooner he is gone the better.

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I agree with most of whhat the op said some folk got on the debt was wiped clean when we come out of admin when you realise the mojority of the club debt was owed to interests that had bates involved with they voted on behalf of bates wiping out all club debt including hmr income tax and amounts owed to other debts 75%of the debts which voted in favoure of ken bates when there was better offer on the table the deal only went through cos they was subsidary companies of bates the profit created each years is a false profit created by player sales and this profit mysteriously dissapears

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10 Sep 2012 14:27:16
the few midfielders that warnock are looking at are jenas hargreaves and puncheon

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He wont get puncheon as puncheon is playing/coming on as a sub at least very regularly

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Hargreaves is training with QPR. He might come on a temp contract to put himself in the shop window

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Cant see Puncheon coming. Playing regulary and well. Turned Man U over when he was on.Saints didnt look the same outfit when he and Lambert came off.

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Puncheon was excellent against Man Utd, no way they would send him out on loan

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Id love us to get Jenas...quality player, just what we need.

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Pajtim Kasami of Fulham is available for loan. Jol highly rates him. Although he is young he looks a really skill big midfield. Jol said today that he wants him to go out on loan to get games. I doubt he would cost much

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We had a chance to get puncheon once n he turned us down so we dnt need players who once turned us down plus hes very good for southampton so they would b mad to let him come when they really dnt have a gr8 team as it is, hargreaves would not offer anythin for us just another sick note, jenas would b gr8 as hes always been good just unlucky with injuries but that tottenham manager aint right in the head so we need to make the most of it n grab jenas lol

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Two midfielders are Jenas and Derry,both on month long loans.

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10 Sep 2012 12:55:15
Do you think that the new potential owners gave a £4 million investment to the club while they are sorting out a deal to buy the club and that's where all the rumours of investment only came from.

By all accounts Leeds united books were in a real state so they needed money desperately to keep the club going.

I also think ken bates owns all of Leeds plus eland road plus Thorpe arch but they are in separate tax havens groups so the paper work involved must be huge as we all know bates is a money scam expert.he hasn't done anything illegal but knows how to save a few quid.

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I think new owners paid for DD. Now one party isn't going to sign the inemnities and we are stuck until either they are signed or new owners walk (probably loosing DD money) Peter MOT

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Total rubbish how can they be all over the place if year on year were making a profit. Granted he sells players but still making a profit, where do you think all the money came from buying 11 players came from?

You don't hear warnock moaning about funds but it's Grayson who signed the rubbish ken bates is sod but very astute business man and has saved our club like it or not we would have no club if it was not for him fact.

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I would guess owns them in one guise or another, so the club would have to pay him rent for both.

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My opinion is that the money from player sales went on re paying creditors that's why we only spent 1.5 million ish on players . Bates wanted to clear some debt to make us a more attractive investment with less overall exposure debt wise...buying a club with existing debt to many creditors isn't a good business proposition ...

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I have to judge this "unbelievable". I meen "he hasn`t done anything illegal".... Come on... It`s KB you`re talking bout!
Doc/N

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You think the potential new owners paid for the due diligence? Really? Considering they have to pay for it as its them doing the DD. ken bates doesn't need to do it as he already knows the company set up. DD is a process undertaken by prospective buyers once a fee is agreed incase any problems or skeletons are found.

Crmd

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To the person who put what rubbish as we make a profit each year if that's the case why hasn't nw had any more money to buy players? All he has bought are frees or low value players and the money for these transfers were payed for by selling our players.

Think you maybe ken bates as all I can see is a club without any money.

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We all hate bates and want him out but even he wouldnt be tepid enough to do anything illegal. Plus he doesn't have to as clubs owners s linked to a tax haven country as well as eland road and probably training ground so won't pay any tax.

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Most of you talk a load of crap. The accounts need to be independantly audited by an accountancy firm each year. The accountcany firm review all of the transactions and sign off the accounts as a trye record. Therefroe all this b******* about them being in a mess and all over the place is just pub gossip talked about by people who couldn't read a set of accounts if they were paid!

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If its all rubbish about our accounts where is all our money? Where are we getting it from?

Not season tickets or ticket sales as that is used to ay off our loans for new corporate stand.

League money isn't that big plus merchandise money isn't huge so you tell me mr I'm so clever .

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If it bothers you that much about the accounts...anybody can access a company's accounts including FSF and Leeds City Holdings...companies house is where its all at peeps...
Just sayin...:-P
Anyways time for a bovril

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To the last mans comments top man at least you understand finance. To the person who wanted to know why I said rubbish, because I am an insolvency practioner and understand we are debt free and making a profit because we had an CVA. Read about what they are and come back to me.

The reason why is we gave spent money on Pearce 600.000 three year deal what do you think his wages are or he plays for free?

Paddy Kenny 750.000 wages or plays for free?

Peltier 750.000 plus wages or players for free?

Austin 500.000 plus wages or player for free?

Ame can be said for the rest of the players we signed, for god sake Diouf is costing us 50k and he only on 2k a week so let's work off 5k per player per week not including the players were still have at the club White, McCormack thats well over two and three quarters of a million not including what we bought them for so you say at least 1.5m for Pearce and Peltier plus say another 750k for Kenny added to that the wages for the new 11 we are looking at 5 million.

Enough said and where does all this money come from and this is not including , White, byrams and Ross new deals and buying Pugh for 500k plus wages. If you want to blame anyone blame Grayson he was backed but bought rubbish that we are still paying for Paynter, Nunes, that poor excuse for a goalkeeper

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To the poster who quotes that Bates saved our club...fact...... Please, please, please do your research.... The only fact in the purchase was that Bates engineered a position whereby he was the major creditor, and thus was able to offer much more in the pound than his rivals.... Other offers WERE on the table, including one from the middle east, fronted by Duncan Revie if my memory is correct,,,, so it's total and utter Bull...t to say he saved our club..... He saw a club on its backside, and took advantage, just like he has done MANY times since his days as the chairmen of Oldham.... I agree the mans not a crook.... He is MUCH more dangerous than that..... He knows the law, and how to walk the fine line between legal & illegal.... Remember, this man even managed to confuse the best business journalists & HMRC up when trying to untangle the complicated "Who owns LUFC" question.......

There is a cracking piece on the SquareBall website from October last year I think.... That I URGE all you Bates followers to read, and THEN if you still think this man is the next Messiah at least you will be armed with all the facts...... Not just the Rubbish that he spouts. Chris. Morley

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To the person who wrote money been spent on players wages wake up mate we got rid of loads of players so new one just take old one wages or do you not understand how a football club runs.

I'll explain it for you at the beginning of a season they set a wage budget and as ours was full we released loads of players and signed more with money from sales of players good article on lust website explaining it all.

So mr bates who I think you are get some of the other cash you have taken and put it back into our club or sell.

The only fact you need to know what ever ken bated tells you about how we have money is no big signings only free and low value players. Nw built a great team with what he had.

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No mate he bought Leeds then when HMRC came knocking for ridsdale upaid tax and the fact we were still paying for wages for fowler ect he took us into a CVA which was where simon Morris was the only challenge to the purchase because HMRC called the debt in. In accorance with the CVA he paid the amount agreed cleared debt and we have been making a profit ever since

Where the **** is simon Morris now? Prison regardless of my opinion on bates he bought us when no one else would

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That is wrong Leeds were owned by a Swiss third party and they got a loan off to othet party's for 18 million but ken stated he wasn't anything to do with it and they won't declare who owns them but they are based in tax havens where other ken bates business are. When they went into admin they stated they would wipe the 18 million debt if kens other company took charge. Seems strang what company's would write off 18 million and say 1 person must run it.

Watch video on line inside of Leeds united explains it all.

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Basic finance lesson needed. If a limited company show a profit at the end of it's financial year then it is the norm for the company to declare a dividend. This is in effect a share of the profits given to shareholders. A company such as say Barclays Bank may declare 5% of their profits as a dividend. However in Leeds' case KB owns the club so can declare what %age he wishes. If he decides to declare 100% of profits as a dividend to himself then all profits disappear to Monaco leaving nowt left to invest.

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10 Sep 2012 12:37:14
where are all the news of the world phone hackers when you need em

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Brilliant!
LtKK

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I Jail or going to jail......

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In prison

foxrat

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Hacking for the S*n?

JDC

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10 Sep 2012 12:24:54
United manager Neil Warnock will venture into the loan market this week as he looks to beef up his squad for Saturday's trip to Cardiff City.

United will head for Wales without the services of midfield duo Paul Green and David Norris while Michael Brown is also nursing a hamstring injury.

The boss has spoken of his reluctance to use the loan market, but says needs must this week as he looks to strengthen his midfield area.

"We're going to have to use it sensibly," said the boss. "If we lose two or three we'll have to do it, and that's what we're looking to do.

"We've asked about a couple of midfield players and we should know early this week because we need someone in there. We're looking at what there is around.

"Rodolph Austin is also away this week and will have had two games to play so we're hoping he comes back okay. He won't be back until Friday and it is horrific when they have all that traveling to do."
MOT!

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What was the point of this post?
you just copied word for word what is on the OS. I thought the Ed's said they were gonna reject such posts as they are pointless

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10 Sep 2012 11:47:55
What if the perspective new owners already have a foot hole in the club and are playing a waiting game to oust the lovely Ken Bates. As quoted on the OS site, investment. Investment could be the key word in a game of cat and mouse. Just a thought, nothing concrete.

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Then someone needs to tell warnock cuz for weeks and weeks he been saying takeover

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Read what I put carefully. I said what if. Too many people on this site jump in feet first without reading, then thinking.

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10 Sep 2012 10:39:26
The Mirror think Rob Hulse about to be loaned to Brentford in League 1. Would've bolstered our ranks but we should be trying to get someone better.

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What does this post mean? {Ed020's Note - read it and find out......}

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Rob hulse let him go to brenford dont we have enough strikers with 5 mcormack becchio,gray,varney,diouff ,midfielders we need with only 1 fit 1 austin who will most likely be jetlagged for our next game

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Rob Hulse did a job for us years ago, wont be the same player best let him finish his career off in the lower league, we need to aim higher......got get beckford before Huddersfield do

beckford = promotion

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He doesn't want to move out of London.

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10 Sep 2012 10:19:45
I think the previous post regarding the potential owners having some say may be closer to the point than some think.... If it is true that they injected cash to allow some of the purchases then this could only have been either as a personal loan to Bates, OR a statement of intent and a very small investment.... either way, if the sale doesn't happen they will want their money back... So, in effect at the moment they are tied in to LUFC no matter what as a creditor.... Maybe this is why they are not simply calling the old goats bluff and walking !! Bates won't walk, as he will not leave himself open to legal action for recovery of DD cost !! And if you believe the state of affairs, we don't have the money to give the consortium back what they lent us.... Personally, I think it was Bates idea to clear out, pocket the cash, and let the new owners create a new team...... They got wind, and let the meetings drag to the end of the Transfer Window thus forcing Bates hand... Hence the terse statement from ER about the exclusivity period ending..... Realising he would NOT put money money in, they then HAD to lend NW money to build a basic team.... It's only my opinion, but it does make sense.... Chris . Morley.

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There are 2 rumours 1 saying 4 million was payed to the club not for players to pay for club running fees the other which they say come from new buyers which state no money has changed hands.

If they have given money the deal will be done if not and bates gets greedy they may walk away.

Think a lot of time and money has been spent so think it will happen just both party's trying to get the best deal.if they are that rich just pay bates off and get rid of him.

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What you write makes a lot of sense but I'll go step further. I think what Bates has done at Leeds with all the property deals and offshore transactions a clean deal ito a buyer is almost impossible. It's tainted with Bates' fraud. Once that becomes apparent hard to buy his interest. This is why he won't sign standard indemnity, this is why the deal is stalling, this is why the lawyers can hardly act for professional and insurance reasons. However, in a crazy way, I expect the deal to go through in the next couple of weeks because I think the consortium will take a chance due to their love of Leeds. If I were the buyer though and Bates won't sign the indemnity I'd look to trade with him and say ok you get off on that so long as I can criticize u and ur regime in public and defame u with immunity. The new buyers need to feel unfettered once the old man has gone and we don't want him darkening our doorstep ever again. MOT.

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Meanwhile, discussions between Leeds Utd and a Middle Eastern consortium are ongoing altough it would appear something of an impasse has been reached. It is understood that the broad details of the deal have been agreed but clauses around ongoing liabilities are beleived to be holding up the final signatures on the contract. Concerns remain as to when the patience of the consortium will finally run out and they walk away from the deal but with the talks ongoing for over four months, there is evidently a desire to complete from both sides.

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Agree, I also wondered, but never asked, who owns the other 28%, if bates owns 72% appx?? Could this be an issue?

Personally, I think he owns 100%, AND TA AND ER, and is trying to hold onto some of this to ensure he gets a share of the 100m+ windfall for promotion..... Chris. Morley.

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I am the previous poster about this. I was just speaking to my dad about it last night. It just makes sense to me. The pricing of tickets this season would never happen under a Bates' regime. It strikes as though someone else is having an influence on how things are done. I'm certain a deal will be done. Too much time, money and effort as gone into this for nothing to happen. I dread to think how much has been spent on solicitors and lawyers fees alone! Something WILL. We just have to be patient.

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Not wanting to pi$$ on anyone bonfire, but, companies in the past at other clubs/companies wanting to buy them have put money upfront. talks have gone on, paperwork all drawn up, then at the last minute the deal falls thru.
whatever money has been given as a sweetener is lost and the proposed buying company just walks away and strikes it off their books as a loss and they go look at another clubs or companies - this happens sometimes, when theres loads of money involved, where the buying company just write off the debt and learn from their own mistakes. they may pass their bad experince onto other potential buyers, which might put others off from even approaching mr bates. all that said, i do think the buyers are very interested, and will not just walk away. they are businessmen and have got involved with lufc for a reason - lufc are a massive concern and the potential is there to make a lot of money, from a large initial investment, but over 5 or 10 years, that money will come rolling back in to make them a tidy profit from an endless supply of lufc fans paying to watch their mighty team. come on bates & the consortium, pull your fingers out and get it sorted - you're all on a defo winner!!.

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Leeds City Holdings own 27.15% of LUFC and two of their directors are one Shaun Harvey and one Kenneth Bates!!

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10 sep 2012 09:35:47
tottenham midfielder jermaine jenas looks set to join leeds on loan - metro {Ed020's Note - apparantly theres a 250k price tag too}

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250k to loan him or buy him because surly hes worth alot more than that. {Ed020's Note - loan}

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Does anyone know how long we will get for?My guess is jan {Ed020's Note - season long so i've head}

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Ed, if there's a 250k price tag are we getting him til the rest of the season then? {Ed020's Note - so i've heard}

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I thought you couldn't loan for the full season ed, thought it was 90 odd days.
mot4life {Ed020's Note - sorry my mistake, stupid source has backtracked on himself, still says theres gunna be a fee involved, sorry for the inaccurate advice}

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We haven't got 250,000 so that counts us out.

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Jenas is likely. source confirmed today. He wants games and Leeds is best option for him

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Just to confirm for everyone......when you loan a player, there is still a 'fee' involved, its like renting the player for a period of time. On top of that you have to pay a proportion of the wages, agreed between the two clubs.

You never get a loan player for free!, if you do its because you have agreed at the end to buy the player for a previously agreed price.

Hope this helps.

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He's not worth 2 pound 50.
better off without him if they want that kind of money

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10 Sep 2012 09:34:44
Is there only me that thinks someone else is pulling the strings behind the scenes at ER instead of Bates?

Little things don't make sense to me. The freezing of ticket sales for example. Bates would never do that! Everton at home is a category 'C'. This would never happen under Bates' regime. Regardless of wether a game is live on TV, or if we have 2 home games in a week, he never gives the fans a second thought and would normally charge top prices.

I just have a feeling that there is more to this than meets the eye. Maybe Potential investors or owners or whatever already have their foot in the door and are having an influence on how things are done?

Just a thought....

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Nah, just Bates filling seats as the upper tier is open all year.

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10 Sep 2012 09:31:24
Rumours are linking us with Jenas, Jerome and DJ Campbell.

I think if we managed to signed Jenas and either striker we would be such a stronger team as currently we have nothing coming from the bench to change a game.

In the late stages of games Becchio seems to tire, would be great to have the luxury of throwing a beast like jerome on!

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You don't mean Glen Campbell that's all about we could afford a 70 Year old singer {Ed020's Note - reckon he's still pretty pricey tbh!!}

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10 Sep 2012 08:11:02
Ben Jacobs reporter out in middle east, doesn't think takeovers happening.

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As he states that is only his opinion and he has no info either way. He also states he is hopefull it will happen so just a typical Jurnolist enjoying the attention.

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I read his tweets and he didn't say that at all. He said he wasn't going to comment until news had been made official / confirmed

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09 Sep 2012 21:40:54
im a close releative of mr bates some of you may not believe me but you soon will after tomorrow as ken bates bought portsmouth leeds takeover has gone through thursday past been kept quiet till moneys transfered over first signing jermaine jenas on loan.


hope this leek gives youse some hope

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Thats right we dont beleive you until it happens and we have got rid of that vermin

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BULLS--T,for starters some Arabs are buying portsmouth,secondly people like Bates don't have family he's a b-----d,who will have been disowned at birth.

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Thx 4 the info but will believe it wen we see it on the os

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"im a close releative of mr bates some of you may not believe me "

NONE of us believe you........

... that's if we could actually understand the gibberish you have written!

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"hope this leek gives youse some hope" so are you handing us a vegetable for hope?!?! if he was a close relative i'm sure you would'nt call him 'mr bates', what a joker!

The D man

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I nearly had a leek when i fell off the chair
laughing at this post

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This is the biggest loads of rubbishe iv heard since may!

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You`re so right, we don`t believe you. Cause we don`t believe KB ever tells the truth - even to his "close relatives"!
Doc/N

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This most definately belongs on the 'Dodgy Rumours' section...

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Well youse dont have to believe me what i say but Mr Bates is gone hences to all the wee things happening at elland rumours but arabs buying portsmouth is all kens doing to make yous panic make yous sweat it out why would i want to tell yous rubbish when i was at the protest myself as i am a big fan of leeds myself but well soon see MOT!!

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Give it a rest you joker!

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Is it at all possible to just can persons like this spouting off and making a mockery of the site? If his point was well made I may have only had 99.99% disbelief but the way it is written makes me think, a) He's a small child trying to have fun on the internet or b) He's just an person!

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