Leeds Rumours Archive January 13 2013

 

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13 Jan 2013 21:55:00
uuurrghh where do I start? I don't think we need
our assistant manager talking about Becchio and
Byram like that. We need to treasure the pair of
them. Neil Warnock up until now you have had
my total commitment but you have two big games coming up, for heavens' sake don't blow it or I - like most other Leeds supporters - will be calling for your head. It's too important, we cannot hang about. And GFH and David Haig - what's going on? Why are you not out there - in the marketplace - extolling your new purchase? What's with the wall of silence? Come on come on time waits for no man .....

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Why becchio? Limited player. Needs to go and be replaced with more pace, skill and ability to bring others into game.

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He scores goals and he loves his club. I'll take that.

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Itll be very hard to replace becchio with soome as good if not better then him without payin over the odds that's why he should be kept, think to yourself who realistically could we get that's better then beccs?

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Why does the person above think pace, skill and ability to bring others into game in important in the championship, its goals goals goals (which becchio offers)

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13 Jan 2013 19:22:37
It's looking like Becchio is being forced out of our club. If this is the case then we, the fans, need to show GFH that if it comes down to a choice between Becchio and Warnock then there's only one winner. Goodbye Neil.

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Good by Becchio neil till the end.A no just joken I'm sticking with Becchio .

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the reason we are playing hoofball is because we are accommodating our top scorer. Becchio is a rubbish footballer, there is no doubt, he can't play, but he can get on the end of long balls and crosses and score. But the whole team cannot rely on his form. If the reason you want warnock out is because we're not playing good football, then look at out striker, I love becchio, his attitude and his goal tally considering his inability to control the ball or pass is phenomenal, but he needs replacing with a real forward who brings the midfield into the game and scores goals, so for me if it was a choice between warnock and becchio, considering that warnocks proved he can play decent football when he got qpr promoted, aslong as there was a good deal for becchio that allowed us to purchase a stronger forward in all areas then I'm afraid it's time to cash in on becchio whilst his goal tally is covering up for his lack of footballing technique. What you forget is that if warnock goes and we start playing football on the ground, becchio stops scoring. So for me I'd keep warnock and trade becchio in for someone who can play football

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It's all well and good blaming NW for the Becchio situation but what if GFH have said "if you want those 3 players then you ll need to sell first" ! At least he's protecting the Byram investment which will only rocket in the coming years - Ridsdales Goldfish

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What makes you believe Becchio is being forced out of the club?

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Unfortunately I was at the Hull match and saw the same tactics without Becchio up front. Somma and McCormack started and it was the same hoof ball football
This is a managers brief and not necessarily the footballers involved
I agree that Becchio probably isn't the best striker in the world but we need the manager able to have a Plan be if hoofing it to him in the air isn't working
Sell Becchio and sack the manager
Time to rebuild from scratch if our new owners have the courage or funds to do it!!

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I like Bechio but lets face it... he has a sell by date and at some stage he will go. This team needs life, pace and creativity and the current crop aint producing. You want change or same old performance ?

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14 Jan 2013 08:38:03
It's strange that, people are saying Becchio is the reason for our goofball, he's been hear about 4 years and I have never heard him being called a player who can only play that way, I can't recall us playing this way before and his goal tally is quite good, If clubs in the premiere ship want him he can't be bad!When has a Warnock side ever played good football?Taraabt is the only reason QPR played half decent, the rest of the players were hardly ball players, so lay off Becchio and lay the blame where it should be, the cause off our demise is the fault off the manager, who I am finding to be more inept by the week !lucky we have 38 points already as we have been dire of late and I see no reason to think it will improve anytime soon, Warnock is tactically incompetent, and doesn't really seem to care, always blaming others and not taking responsibility, seems to be living off past glories!

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Same old performances, 19 goals this season along with Austin and Byram the only positives this seaon and some of you want rid, All I can say it MOT

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14 Jan 2013 09:00:53
I agree with the first reply. Becchio is not the best footballer and has no pace. However, he has a tendency to be in the right place at the right time. My mate is a Burnely season ticket holder and slags Charlie Austin off every week for the same inabilities, but the top and bottom of it is they both score. I believe we either sell Becchio and get silly money or we invest in two wingers (Just like we had with Gradel and Snoddy) who will feed him with the service we require.

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Totally disagree with the 2nd reply (long one)
Becchio scored goals all his career with us mainly from headers from crosses and shots in the box.
To play hoofball you need a striker with loads of pace to run on to the long ball, or use a striker to flick on to a striker with pace. We ain't got a striker with pace!
Becchio looks clumsy and is not quick, however he does not miss loads and he continually scores goals. Lee chapman was slow and a donkey but we loved him for his goals.
Get off becchio's back, he's proved he can score in any of our play styles. It's the tactics which are dreadful and if I played for leeds I would not be enjoying the style of football at all
White teeth

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I read the articles and statements which both Jones and Warnock said. Cant say there's anything in it that says were getting rid of Bechio. You guys are making comments when you obviosuly haven't the intelligence to read these statements. NW has stated the team is under achieving with lack of results and trying to bring in 2-3 players to boost performance without offloading Bechio. Stop bitching for the sake of it.... 'Some of you are like my old woman'. Yeah were all pretty much disappointed but you think NW isnt ?

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If I was Becchio I'd be right out the door. The decent teammates around him have been sold, the team is going down not up, and at 29 years old there's no chance of Prem football with Leeds until at least the end of next season, and that's only if GFH pull their finger out and prove to be what they say they are (which at the moment is looking to be wishful thinking on our part). To be fair he's been a good servant to the club, and if he gets a chance in the prem he should take it. Its not his fault Leeds are going nowhere, same with Snodgrass. Just a shame as fans that we're stuck with the situation.

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He is 29 and anything around £2M will be a good deal for Leeds

We can get better for similar money, don't worry have faith its not all over yet

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13 Jan 2013 19:15:06
Leeds not following up interest in George Boyd. Straight from the mouth of the Peterborough chairman, Darren Macanthony.

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Sounds like yet another great talent not coming to our great club. Instead we persist in wasting money on has beens like Varney ! What is going on at our club ?

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Although after Saturdays shambles I would hope that Leeds will now renew their interest in him, especially as he is on the transfer list so will be going somewhere. We need something to change. Maybe our targets have changed too

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Shame if true -the sort of talent we could really use right now (when we've got no-one really to play on the left). Chapel A

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13 Jan 2013 18:43:58
Andre Santos to join this week for a fee believed to be around 2.5m.

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13 Jan 2013 15:56:58
if you take notice of jones and warnock it's obvious that they are trying to push becchio out the door and warnock slyly trying to blame becchio for having his head turned, ffs we have heard this garbage all before, touting out our best players, this HAS to stop, byram and lees will be next to be pushed but not til the summer, the only ones that need to go are warnock and jones along with all of the deadwood we have collected over the last few seasons, so we can start again under a new manager that is motivated enough to drive us forward, WARNOCK/JONES OUT NOW, mot

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This is how i see it 2.blackstock is no match LB but might be a yes man NW wants

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I completely agree it wouldn't surprise me if warnock got a % of his sale.

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The reason NW wants Becchio out is because he is trying to bring in CMS (who was left out of Brighton squad yesterday) and his old buddy from Peterborough George Boyd. The sale of Becchio will bring in the immediate funds to buy CMS but none of this will happen until Brighton have finalised the signing of their Argentinian striker who is currently waiting a Spanish passport. If they fail to do this then Becchio may go as part of a player/cash deal depending on personal terms with Brighton.

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I was soo shocked to hear warnock talking about becchio like that in his post match interview maybe just a way to get the heat offa him or wat im not sure saying becchio wasnt on the ball and that... ha you kidding me he can't do enithing wen were stuck in our own half the whole game lol! i imagine warnocks days are numbered he's got brum and bristol to turn it around or i would think hed be shown the door ive seen managers go for far less

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You're right. Yesterday NW complains Becchio's mind not on game. Why would that be then? Oh yes, his number 2 put Becchio in the shop window after the B'ham City game. Get them out now. Time for GFH to put up and show they are serious about LUFC, but I'm not holding my breath,

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13 Jan 2013 21:30:05
Why all the fuss about becchio? Much prefer cms, far more pace and George Boyd more creative than we've got. As for gfh....where's the money chaos it took you 6 months to buy the club...he long to buy players...6 months too?

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George Boyd is not coming to Leeds. We enquired and would not meet the asking price. CMS is going nowhere, poyet was on a website this morning telling everyone what a great player he is, and how he's getting better and better.doesnt sound like he's selling sometime soon!

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13 Jan 2013 14:58:12
when gfh took over they said that they wanted to connect with the fans again, well we are telling you that we want warnock gone, he has done nothing for this club, been one if not the worst manager we have ever had, [going by performances and results]his tactics team selection has been dire to say the least, this is your chance to show the fans that you care about what we think, warnock must go now, and be replaced with someone that has the motivation, the desire and know how to drive this sleeping giant forward, act now or loose the fans backing, where attendances will fall even more cos we have all seen enough of this hoofball pub style football we are being asked to suffer, WARNOCK OUT NOW, mot

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Well said mate coudnt agree more. Its a joke .mot.

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Who do you suggest?

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And who would you have replace him?

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Thought this was a rumours site not a warnock winge page?

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Di matteo or Gordon strachan

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14 Jan 2013 20:57:19
If, like me, you've emailed GFH, asked for answers to questions, chased a reply and heard nothing back, I guess you are feeling how I am. They need to do more than just say all the right things at a press conference and "engage" on twitter!

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13 Jan 2013 12:36:37
Could this be a scenario at the end of the season and the reason why GFH are not dipping into their pockets,
Warnocks contract is up in the summer, is he the right man for the job, if he is not in the eyes of GFH, then what is the point in letting a manager who is not the right man spend a load of cash. Possibly they may sell players if the price is right. As long as we are safe in the Championship for next season, get a new manager on the summer and allow him to spend the money, still think Gus Poyet would be a very good punt.

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Hope so. But I do think it's time GFH make their mark and intentions to give everyone a lift.
How much funds for the transfer window is am unknown to us. But it doesn't look goods.

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He should have give the kids a chance last year once we were safe..

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Maybe but what would it cost GFH to pay Warnock out now - (He must only have months left on his contract)

I still think there is something more to this all and not sure if its good or bad GFH / Bates / Warnock the same old promises and almost complete lack of communication with the fan base

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Exactly what I posted a couple of weeks ago. We will not be promoted this season and a new manager will be appointed and the purse strings opened and promotion will happen next summer.
CJS

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Brighton want around 3mil to cancel Gus' contract. We'll be looking elsewhere if Warnock is sacked/released. Would've been good to have him back though.

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Poyet is Brightons, Why would he take such a BIG step backwards.

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13 Jan 2013 11:09:44
Warnock has a meeting on Monday at 08:30 with Shaun Harvey and the new owners. The likely outcome will be Warnocks contract terminated by mutuel consent, plus the new owners are adamant Becchio will not be sold what ever the price as he is a fans favourite and would look bad on the new board. Warnock wanted to swop Becchio for CMS plus 1 million cash but the new owners refused to let Becchio go. GFH are the real deal guys don't worry Leeds utd are in the best hands possible, you will all see in the coming weeks. I can tell you one thing for certain Mr Warnock will not be let loose with the 12 million Leeds have to spend in this window. The board simply don't think he's shrewd enough.

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If we had 12 million to spend don't you think we wouldnt players like micheal tonge for 200,000

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Regarding the first reply, yes we would as that's who the manager wanted to sign. However this does all sound like wild speculation from the OP rather than a genuine rumour. No-one has any clue how much money has been made available except for NW and GFH

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I hope this post is true but it's not that NW isn't shrewd enough. He is shrewd. He knows a good player from a bad one. It's his tactics and style of play. It's awful. It's like taking the worst of all those has been never was managers in the 80s and blending them together for a carp result. The reason he got the 7 promotions is because he gets the best out of carp players ie those players knew they were carp to begin with!! So they relished playing that kinda way. In other words, NW is something of a fraud. He is not suited to LUFC because we have better players and are more sophisticated than that. Please go Neil. Please arrive Gus.

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How do you know? And £12m to spend is cuckoo land and suggests that you don't know, just wishful thinking! JH

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To the last post, good call ! We may be in good hands but they have no money !!

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Yet they allowed him to sign Michael Tonge on a 30 month deal; a player who the fanbase don't rate. Sorry it's simply a guess my friend.

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13 Jan 2013 15:58:16
Unless its a telephone or video conference, this is unlikely as both Haigh & Patel are currently in Dubai.

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Wevhave 1.2 million not 12mliion. Where did you get that riduculous figure from?

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I was a massive supporter of Warnock and was chuffed to bits when he was appointed however, he has to go. Not seen a decent performance since the Town game. Barnsley were well up for it, why we, rnt we?, they wanted it more.It was the first time i have ever booed my own team, and i, ve followed Leeds home and away since the 70s. I personely think the team yesterday, on paper was a good team, BUT we have no idea what to do. That to me means the training ground and the coaches are not doing there jobs. we appear to be unfit !. Barnsley are the bottom of the league for a reason, they are a poor taem and lose games !, not against us. To be honest its a bad a Leeds taem ive watched for many a year. I, ve a ticket for the Brum game on tuesday, but i, m not off. cost me £15, going to save £30 on petrol. Also going to really think hard about going to the Boro game next month unless performances improve. My choices would be Poyet ( highly unlikely too come to Leeds, he, ll go direct to the prem) or O, Driscall. Rant over. MOT. Yorky

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Well done i agree with everything you said and O Driscall is the right choice for us now we have some good players but would like to see some pace in side

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Leeds again show just how poor we really are, not 1 shot on target against bottom of league, screams of the outplaying we saw at hull and forest away, the one thing in common is we can't play away from home as we have no creative players, or anyone who can control the game, we need a boss who can play creative football but have some resilliance, my shout is warnock out before end of january window and replace him with phil brown(no compo needed as he's a radio pundit and did a great job with an average squad at hull, but added quality to it) where as o dismal hasn't got the experiebce or style to lead, proved it with sacking at forest

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You say bout training sure TA was closed till thursday morning an 3 quarters of are team is unfit with this virus going about stop all your moaning bout NW only if yous would sing as much as yes moan we wudnt be in these situation also NW will still be with us by the summer i still believe we can do it an go up its all bout been a leeds fan its even wrote in are song AND WEVE HAD ARE UPS AN DOWNS BUT WERE GONNA STICK WITH YOUS FOREVER AS LEAST UNTILL THE WORLD STOPS going ROUND MOT
NORN IRON WHITE

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Wont be o driscoll he's just been appointed brizzle city manager

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We do NOT have 12m to spend. Don't be ridiculous. Don't you think Woods would be in a Leeds shirt if we did? Bloody hell.

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Haven't seen football this bad at ER since Blackwell (mini Warnock) was in charge.
Blackwell had a very lucky first season, considering how truly awful our football was.
Warnock is doing a great job. He told us so himself... Thing is, Colin, ask anyone else in that stadium and they'd have given you a very different answer. Reason enough to get rid. The man's in cloud cuckoo land

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13 Jan 2013 09:41:37
More Becchio rumours.

Interesting that Warnock pointed the finger at Becchio and claimed "His head wasn't right and that's why the transfer window is such a nightmare for managers."

So it seems that Becchio fancies the idea of a move away from Elland Road - how else can Old Big Gob's comments be interpreted? And who can blame the Argentine hotshot when the new owners seem just as reluctant to open their wallet as Master Bates?

If it is true that Becchio is on £15k a week then a move to any Premiership club would see his wages rise considerably. And at 29, he has to think about safeguarding his future. You are a long time retired in football.

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13 Jan 2013 10:40:37
If is head is turned and he's not able to perform his best, why play him? For a start the whole team was shocking and Warnock seems to be another person that thinks a striker can score without the ball.Warnock needs to look at the style of play .maybe becchio is fully warn out after trying to get on the end of all the long balls .

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Is he really interested in going or is this the usual bull that the club give us before selling one of the better players and claiming they wanted to go, irrespective of whether they wanted to go or not.
Either way, It's not looking good for keeping hold of Becchio.

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I concur with your point but can anyone tell me why would Warnock pick him and keep him on the pitch [with his head messed about] for 90 minutes. FFS. Plus the marionette that sadly comes with a legends name the poxy assistant manager chose to invite the game to mess with Becchios head. you couldn't make it up. TeeCee

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Honestly, I love, Bechio. I think he is a quality forward and should do everything to keep him. But, at 29.. If we are offered maybe £3.5-4 million. I think we should take it. Give Luciano his day in the sun (anywhere but Man you or Norwich) and give us some cash to throw at a new attacking 3.
push Ross up top and sign two new wide players and a decent LB and I think we have a side worth playing with. Get Varney in the local 5-a-side matches and off the team sheet. I've never seen a worse player pull on our shirt in 20 years.
I still think Neil is the man to take us up.
I just think taking the leeds job at any point is always a train wreck from start to finish since administration. I think unless you know what your getting in to, then you are fighting a loosing battle from the off. I don't think Warnock knew how bad the situation with Bates was to be fair to him.

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Can't Blame Becchio for having his head turned, he must look around him and the way Leeds is run and think I gotta get out of here. Total, spineless, leaderless, talentless... rubbish. Good luck to the lad he deserves a crack at it.

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Personally if I was becchio I would look to move he has been loyal to the club for years and the club never looks like moving foward it's always one step foward two steps back. If we had kept delph, howson, Johnson, snodders and schmicheal we would be awesome but they all play for good teams exception delph. I think we need a change in manager and staff.

Di matteo would be a good choice

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Fact becchio plays best when balls played into box for him no balls played in no goals warnock was deflecting blame away from himself again becchios head not in game head turned sounds to me warnock has placed becchio in the shop window by saying come and get him warnocks tactic all seaso has been rubbish and nothings going to change

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We'd be a better team without him! Let him go. We need good movement to compliment McCormack & Diouf. Diouf needs runners so he can pick them out. We need to get in behind the opposition. Becchio never makes a run & will never run away from anyone or beat a man. He MUST go for the benefit of the team.

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To the original poster - i can't believe you are word for word copying that hammers fans blog. He's done that purely for Leeds fans to pick up on a really small point and interpret it with wide malicious meaning. Thereby creating a rumour/ a storm in a teacup. Spreading his little virus. Well done for supporting the Hammers douche's intentions. He's played you like a fiddle.

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Last poster here ... Re Beccio - BTW, everyone would get their heads turned if all this talk of premiership transfers came up. EVERYONE. It doesnt mean he wants to leave Leeds. They don't mean the same thing. The Hammersfan has just provoked - PROVOKED - that connection and you have eaten it.

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13 Jan 2013 09:33:44
carlton cole has been told he can leave west hame, worth a punt? as he maybe is old, but is still a good attacking threat, and if becchio leave i think he could fill that role.

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Already been offers for other Prem clubs for him, so why on earth would he come to us - A mediocre ( At best ) Champ side going nowhere !?!

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I agree with the 1st post

Steely

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You gotta be joking a guy whose best season tally was 15

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13 Jan 2013 06:30:18
Becchio to Wigan for £3m. Warnock said his head was
turned. Let's be honest. At 29 with no realistic hope of
promotion, can you blame him?

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So another who thinks warnocks telling truth all we know for a fact is warnock reckong peltiers a great left back warnock thinks he is doing a great job and its becchios fault we lost who do you get to replace a guy who has scored 19 goals already this season because 1 thing for a fact if we got 3 million warnock won't be allowed to spend anywhere near that on a replacement

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If he goes to Wigan he has a realistic chance of relegation!

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13 Jan 2013 03:07:57
Reo cocker has left ipswich next stop leeds

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Bloody hope not!

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13 Jan 2013 00:50:56
Warnock to be sacked on Monday, di matteo to be signed as replacement but still won't be given any decent money to spend, at least the football will be more exciting, or should I say watchable.

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13 Jan 2013 10:46:31
I don't think we need decent money to be spent . I think a new manager with new ideas could get this team playing good tactical football. I think our squad is fairly strong but Warnock keeps playing players out of position .

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Warnock sacked i agree is tatics are shocking Sean Odriscoll (if that's spelt right) would be my choice

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Happy with that one, come to think of it graysons football was better than this sh*te!
Time must be up, think some players are much better than what's said here, it's just a combination of playing out of position and dreadful tactics, they, like us must be so depressed. No more L.U.H.C please, play it on the grass!
White teeth

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I really do hope so

Aidy white should have started yesterday with his pace instead of playing 4 cm

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To both de matteo won't come to leeds why would he and second poster yes money does need to be spent we need pace out wide something we have lacked all season without pace we will still play long ball football

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De Matteo had a team of super stars to pick from easy team selection we want a manager who can work with average players in a very competitive division that's why my choice is Sean O Driscoll he got Dony playing some good stuff and is the man for me

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I would be very happy to see this happen. Also, I think gus poyet would make a great assistant to di matteo

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We have plenty of pace for wings with white and hall but white just doesnt seem to play well

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Di matteo? seriously? common guys, get real, love leeds but the champions lg winner will not be comming here

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We need pace throughout the team, not just on the wings.

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12 Jan 2013 23:23:26
I'm not usually someone who calls for a managers head, but I really believe its time for Warnock to leave. We play an extremely boring style of football, I wouldn't mind it if we got the results but we don't and the style of play is becoming really tiresome.

I believe that with Paul Lambert losing again with Villa I wouldn't see him as an impossible target and also he plays a nice style of football

Anyone agree?

Benlufc

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Boring style? You mean obsolete utter gash. Every team bar Huddersfuield have been better than us this year but we have fluked our way through games too often. Finally caught up with us. We do not pass the ball and have little idea how to build an attack. Warnock should have been out before this transfer window opened, to allow a new manager to build a football philosophy. Now we are lumbered with Tonge for 2 further years and have 4 months of dwindling crowds to look forward to. Welcome to Leeds GFH.

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Plus we might get some good ex players back

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I'm sure he'd jump at the chance instead of being responsible for taking villa down, with all that charisma I can hardly wait.

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Nice style of football? Have we taken to complimenting any teams style that simply pass the ball. Their style had them ship 15 or so goals in 3 games

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Villa have a young squad he will get them ticking Villa board know this and won't let him go

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Villa board and fans are behind Lambert, from what I can make out. He's rebuilding the team from the bottom up.
Fairly ure he'll crack it in the second half of the season.
No reason for him to jump ship if everyone involved agrees he's doing a good job.

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12 Jan 2013 22:46:55
Billy Davies apparently....just been sent a message claiming he was on the radio stating he will soon be returning to football management?..if Warnock does go, not sure who could do a job for us?..

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Bloody hope not!

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Do not want this man.

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Id love billy in.

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Ian holloway poalo dicanneo dimatteo gus poyet

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12 Jan 2013 22:46:34
Its quite simple we have the players at the club to perform we just don't have the manager or coaches capable of getting anything out of them. Sack them all now and try and save this woeful season. Warnocks results and style has been the worst Ive ever seen. Watching leeds hurts

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