Leeds Rumours Archive September 13 2012

 

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13 Sep 2012 23:13:09
I wish, but not according to Phil Hay on t*****r - next week at the earliest for some forward movement, all being well - which, let's face it, is not the Leeds way of doing things, and certainly isn't Bates's way of doing things

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Same old, same old... It's gone way beyond tedium!

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13 Sep 2012 22:14:07
Leeds will sign Neil Danns on loan from Leicester tomorrow.

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Hope your right ? any source ?

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Not now we got tonge

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13 Sep 2012 19:47:17
I heard my mate Willy from harrisons on the phone to jeff stealing (a website) he was saying its defo takeover friday oooooooooooo
Beeston benjy

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Please lord!

MOT!

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Here we go again

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I'm so excited and i just can't hide it.........


mmmmmmmm. must be that crunchy feeling

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Did you hear the one about the 3 bears

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Did they have three seperate woods, or did they share toilet facilities?

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Willy is the man in the know at harrisons. so if he has heard it must be true

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Willy phoned me up after i had already spoke with chris kamara and both were saying takeover friday is the day. oh and leeds getting phil masinga on a pay as you play. harrisons rob

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Well as far as i am aware it is now Saturday and still no takeover. I guess your mate knows about the much of the rest of us errrrrmmm nothing

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13 Sep 2012 20:32:15
NW Still wants 2 more players, a winger and a striker on to last until January.

Strikers linked: Dj Campbell, Jermaine Beckford and Fraizer Campbell.

Wingers linked: Brady, Kasami + McFadden who is a free agent.

+Tonge is a quality player in the championship equally as good as Norris, get off his back guys.

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Judging that dj Campbell is at Sheffield wednesday I'd say that move is pretty unlikely

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So bates releases a few quid and he s not all bad, yeah right. It wouldn't surprise me if NW was paying it himself. We ll see how many more of those names above come in.

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And that beckford is not wanted bk at leeds and is en route to hudds id say hes outta question too

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Judging that Campbell isn't at Wednesday if say that it could b likely (more likely Blackpool tho). Check facts before shooting down these rumours, they take the time to make up these rumours at least do the decent thing and shoot them down with facts ;-)

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Beckford would be very welcome back at Leeds to the replier that said he isnt wanted back go to the odd game like Leicester last season where we was singing and he knows he is hes leeds while he did the salute to the kop all the fans still love him.

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How about Becchio, Somma (oct) McCormack and give Poleon a chance look at Smith when he was given a chance that's three out of four we will have back. We have to stick in there for another few weeks you see how good we are when we get green, Norris with the beast, tonge who some might forget destroyed us playing sheff Utd add to that Varney Diouf and a bench with White? Brown, Pugh, Byram Ashdown, not a bad squad depending on any loans that might come in, in the mean time

Question to all Leeds fans which team would and I think playing for the mighty White

Lonergon, Connolly, Kisnorbo, ( I love his commitment but bad injury ) Bruce, ???? because everyone played there

Snodgrass, ( decent player not premiership quality remember Doncaster Diouf ran the show. Clayton cant tackle goes missing only good only on when we have the ball and when we are playing well. ( refused a new contract )

Howson good player but let's be fair left his home town club for a full season in premiership. Good luck to him though

Nunez, White, Pugh, and about everyone else in that position as we could not find a right winger after selling Gradel Rodgers even played for about all of ten minutes.

Up front we all know who would play two quality players in this division + sorry the sad excuse for a goalkeeper rac that crap rhebuka spelling ?and the person who fell over against Cardiff O'Dea or

Kenny (international
Peltier quick pace and an intelligent defender can play anywhere across the back four

Lees ( called up to England u21 says it all when was the last time that happened (woodgate) ( killgallon) in 2003

Pearce wicked defender pace reads the game and has everything in the locker

Drury/White says it all Drury captain of Norwich and White we were all over the moon with when he signed new contract.

Austin or Clayton ? Austin

Varney/Norris/Tonge or howson I know the answer but Tonge is a better player wait and see

Diouf or Snodgrass says everything really I would prefer two time African player of the year thanks very much than a slow Snodgrass

Up front same apart from Somma

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13 Sep 2012 16:05:27
are ye boys having a laugh or what tonge is a very good championship player dont know what ppl are waffling on about the lad hasnt kicked a ball yet and your on his back get a grip or go follow someone else getting sick of half of ye lot to be quite honest!
hang on a min there now we'll bring in messi!
suppose we can please some of the ppl some of the time but cant please all the ppl all the time!
irish leeds fan!

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Well said mate no pleasing some people !

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not saying I agree with them tho. The 1 thing we av in common is we are Leeds united fans. Let's start and show it. Marching on together and not dribs and drabs squabbling with each other

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Think if he can sit in front of the back four and let Austin go forward more will be solid, that is if Austin is not completely exhausted!

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Well said were Leeds and proud
He wants to be here he wants to play good luck to him he gets my support instead of slagging him and praising players that aren't here
Russjon

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We are Leeds United fans, of course, but we're not deluded. Of the three midfield players in which Warnock appeared to be interested, Tonge was chosen because he was the cheapest. Stoke probably couldn't wait to get rid of him, as they paid a substantial fee four years ago and have only played him in the first team once in all that time. I'm a great admirer of Warnock, and he may bring out the best in the guy - let's hope so. But the signing of Tonge just reminds us that Bates demands that his managers achieve success without providing them with the means. He's an unpleasant man who asks his employees to make bricks without straw, and then digs the knife in when they fail at an impossible task.

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Cracking post the last one , same old bates , for me , treats everyone he has ever dealt with , with no respect whatsoever , 80 yo or not , id still chin the person and enjoy every penny of the fine !!

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Hey mate I bet your glass is always half empty, there is no pleasing some of you, totally agree with the original poster, plenty of other clubs to follow if you dont like it. MOT

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How many times has Warnock got teams full of nobodies promoted,support whoever puts on the white shirt and lets see what happens.
M.O.T

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13 Sep 2012 14:33:59
Tonge in on loan till December on O/S now. Thoughts?

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Hes a basic player - Danny Pugh number 2! but we are skint and beggers cant be choosers

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Warnock seems to know the guy and how he plays so i have trust he will mix in well and fight for his place in the team.

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If Warnock is happy with the signing then so should we! He was quality at Sheffield Utd so let's give him a chance!! I am glad we have someone in for the Cardiff game and feel 100 times more confident now!! MOT!!

Youngie!!

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Bad move....just a squad player, wont add anything, cant see him playing much anyway, even with Green, Norris and Brown out. We still have Austin, White, Varney Diouf, Thompson, Pugh and can recall Rogers, then theres the Turner twins I can see the team for Cardiff being

Kenny
Peltier Lees Pearce Drury
Varney Austin White Diouf
McCormack Becchio

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I'm guessing people wont be impressed as he isnt a big name or a marquee signing but at the end of the day we need cover in midfield, so we have a chance winning the 3 points. He has an understanding with warnock which must count for something and I bet you will get a 100% from him where as some bigger names may feel they are too good for...XYZ Will have to wait an see Im happy we have a experianced player from a premiership club who is injury free, keen and wanting to make an impression. Can't ask for anythig more untill the T.O. has been settled!
KarlT

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No alot better than danny kettering town are after danny hes rubbish

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No good writing him off before he has kicked a ball - remeMbering the negative post on kenny who is our best goalie in years. getting a bit sick of the doom & gloom whingers - what did they expect as a loan signing for a mid-way championship club? Ronaldo? give it a rest everyone & wait & see MOT

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Agree with that team for Cardiff, then next week either or both of Brown & Norris will be back so White or Diouf or both will drop out to allow one or both of them in, meaning Tonge will be pushed further down, cant see the point of this signing really.

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Quaking in our boots.

Redbird

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My concern is he is not really what we need. He is not a central midfielder.

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Redtit you will be quaking come saturday leedsmad!

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Listen. McCormack was a fringe player at Cardiff, Becchio was a fringe player at Barcelona B, Snodgrass was taken from a third division Scottish club etc. There's nothing wrong with signing fringe players they come good more often than not.

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Of course he's a central midfielder! person.

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Don't know much about the lad, was hoping for Jenas as he'd instil fear in our opponents!

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Give him a chance or support some other team, its not neils fault he cant bring in big stars, blame old father time, and redbird, see you saturday,, SC,,,

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The guys decent, he wants to prove himself and warnock will definetly get the most out of him as he knows him, decent signing in my opinion.

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The guy that said he wont play at Cardiff and White will play CM? White isnt very good on the ball and too lightweight for CM compare him to the NW style CM's Norris likes the odd tackle Austin LOVES the opportunity to go through someone Green gets stuck in Brown we all know enjoys getting stuck in can't see him putting White there infact i'd put my house on it.

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Would of preferred to see jenas but beggars can't be choosers

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Naturally underwhelmed -2 games in 3 years for parent club doesn't exactly speak of a player on top of his game. Hopefully not another Webber (or worse, Pugh!). Cannot be worse than Dickov or McSheffrey -surely...?! The only way is up! Chapel A

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Well at least he didnt cost £500,000!

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13 Sep 2012 14:29:52
leeds have snapped up tonge probaly a clever move but would also like to see danns join the mighty whites was excited when read about him coming in too.takeover can happen whenever because our team dont need millions we have the underdog spirit.

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I saw Danns play for Palace against Leeds at Selhurst Park in the 2010-11 season. He scored the only goal, worked his socks off and was the best player on the pitch by a country mile (okay, he got sent off about 2 mins from the end for a second yellow but that's because he's a trier).

That would be a 'yes please'

fatfreddyscat

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13 Sep 2012 14:29:29
Tonge has signed on loan til Dec decent signing can do a job for us

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13 Sep 2012 14:22:57
Tonge signs till December, not exactly jenas, but a good player at this level.

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13 Sep 2012 14:22:42
Tongue signed from Stoke until December !


AA

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13 Sep 2012 14:21:08
a website confirm signing of micheal tonge on loan till january , mot

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13 Sep 2012 14:14:43
No Rumour, Fact

"Leeds sign Stoke midfielder Michael Tonge on loan until December "

-bbc sport

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13 Sep 2012 14:14:27
Michael Tonge has signed on loan until december.
MOT

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13 Sep 2012 14:12:41
Michael Tonge joins till December. Positive news!

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13 Sep 2012 14:11:15
Leeds sign tonge, hardly
Mouthwatering

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Tong(u)e

Hardly mouthwatering

Boom! Boom!

fatfreddyscat

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13 Sep 2012 13:49:38
Leeds update can confirm that the buyers want the take over sorted "on or soon after the hull game". Refused to say if Sorted meant a posotive outcome! From Ben jacobs

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Stop listening to dat person he has been saying for ages takeover will be done on such a day oh wait still not done theres a nda signed and being strictley enforced the man is fkn guessing sources me arse we will know when the buyers or bates want us to know

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HE SAID IT WAS 99% OFF LAST WEEK!

He is full of rubbish

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13 Sep 2012 12:30:33
Takeover closer than we though folks, the indemnity clause that bates wont sign maybe resolved by the buyers consortium offering to indemnify others against any potential losses incurred. If true then this shows the desire of the buyers to purchase the mighty whites!

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I'll be honest I don't know what any of this means so I'll just hope we win our next game and see what happens

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Its gone on far to long now,please make it happen asap
MOT

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Closer than we thought?
That would have been June then.
JB

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Past caring not intrested no more

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Yes you are you know you are

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You know nothing more than any of us unless you come up with a source and substantiate it, which ain't happening...

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13 Sep 2012 12:22:33
Just hearing news that a third party are going to indemnify any potential losses. The deal is ever closer now . Nearly over the line.

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Hope this is true,It sums Bates up,he refuses at all costs,just a stubborn old man
Who needs to retire,and enjoy his self

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I know everyone claims to have sources etc and a lot is down to 'trust' etc....but my source has advised that the deal is agreed (including indemnity issues) and just need signing. I believe it is now imminent.

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Wish I had a quid for every post that suggested deal was nearly over the line. Might have bought the club myself then ;-) {Ed013's Note - You could buy the club then!}

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13 Sep 2012 11:57:17
LUST

Takeover Update - Thursday 13/09/12

It has been suggested to us that the deal has moved closer to completion over night. The indemnity clause issue may be resolved by members of the buyers consortium offering to indemnify others against any losses incurred as a result of Mr Bates refusal to sign the indeminity. We have yet to confirm this with both of our contacts however if true it demonstrates the desire of the buyers to purchase Leeds United. More to come as we get it

a_scarborough_white

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Finally some good news ............. Tho lets not get ahead of ourselves we are Leeds and things never that straight forward

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How is this good NEWS its from LUST if you read it properly haha the same people that said it was off a few weeks ago to change their mind a few hours later and release a 'statement' which was just purely a rehash of the one the OS put.

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Just to clarify when LUST annouced the takeover was off talks had actually broken down - FACT. SH had flown to Monaco 2 days prior to the annoucement, for talks with Bates, in an attempt to get things back on track. When he was unsuccessful then LUST were given the nod to annouce that the deal had collasped, at that point Bates came scurrying back to the table and protracted and difficult talks have been ongoing.

Remember good things come to them that wait and LUFC fans have certainly waited.

MOT.

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Ok if it is fact give me one piece of evidence that came from the only people that knew about this takeover - the buyers/Bates/Harvey? And who exactly gave LUST the nod to say it had collapsed their source is meant to be from the buyers side of proceedings. If so they wouldn't have known instantly that Harvey had failed to get things back on track to tell LUST it was ok to release the info. Also Harvey had already flown back when they announced it so in the next 2-4 hours suddenly Bates managed to get straight into contact with the buyers and set the deal back up? So many people moan about how everyone believed Bates at first and should have listened to them well it winds me up that everyone believes LUST way too much they know nothing more than us. They said it was waiting on indemnities now they said this morning that that had been sorted yet the deal still hasn't been done.

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13 Sep 2012 11:33:22
Does anybody think like me that the potential takeover group may actually be trying to force Leeds into administration so that they could take over the entire club, grounds, etc, lock stock and barrel at a reduced price and with no responsibilities for anything and everything Bates has got us into?

I hate to drag the subject up again, but the discussions seem to be getting nowhere, and yet nobody is walking away?

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There is no takeover buyers walked in july, they talking but nothing will happen.if it was be done by know,.

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I dont think you can just decide to go into administration, plus it would surely mean a points deduction and potenial transfer embargo! utter rubbish!

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The ground and Thorpe Arch are not owned by the club. Bates can't call off the deal because he'd then be liable for the costs of due diligence, around 4 million I've heard. Similarly the buyers are reluctant to walk away because they've already invested 4 million in the process. The club has consistently made a profit (which has not been re-invested but pocketed by Bates) and although Bates has mortgaged future season ticket sales (like Ridsdale did) to pay for the ground development, and landed the club with huge legal costs through his persecution of Levi, I don't think the club are in danger of administration, just suffering from chronic underinvestment and mismanagement!

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The first replier if they walked away in July what is the point in them still talking haha? These are big business men you think they waste time on just chatting to Bates for fun?

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The ONLY person i know who`d try do business that way already owns the club.

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Go back to sleep. When you wake up we might have some news that has not been made up

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I am the original poster, I didn't say we could 'decide' whether we go into administration?

And Bates CAN call off the deal at any time because it won't be HIS money he loses, it will be yet another debt pushed onto Leeds, not Bates...

The only reason we consistently make a profit is because we sell our best players to Norwich, that's hardly a good long term view?

What will Bates do when we have nobody left to sell that will outweigh the debts he has incurred?

I won't go back to sleep either, I have supported Leeds for over 40 years, but this has to be the worst preiod in all that time, despite the team doing well.

Under Bates we have no future whatsoever, he could have sold out to the consortium and let them invest in our team, but hasn't done so.

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"Go back to sleep. When you wake up we might have some news that has not been made up"

And we might also be in admin by then too?

You need to look at whats going on, rather than sit in cloud cuckoo land mate....

The more people who stop going to games, the worse it gets....

... and stopped last season..

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13 Sep 2012 11:21:53
Putting the takeover to one side, which is hard to do I know. Can I ask would fans be happy(ish) with the side we currently have if there had been no takeover this summer? We have 11 new players who I believe will do a better job than last years (My opinion).

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I agree i think our 1st team is better than last year...but i dont see a stronger 2nd team/subs.
we still need some more players as this team is not good enough to get us up.
i still think our division 1 side was stonger if maybe not at the back.
karl

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I agree with the first reply. Our starting 11 is an improvement over last season but we lack depth in a couple of areas.

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So the reason we were in league one with howson, Kilkenny Johnson and one was playing for Oldham and the other Northampton is because they are not good enough come what may next season they will be in the championship. Beckford had one season where is he now??

Much better team with quality all over

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Thats true! but only eleven. Need at least 22 players that can come in and do the job left behind.
mot4life

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Yeah absolutely, the whole take-over soap opera has soured what would otherwise have been a positive summer. Agree with the previous posts, our first 11 is definately better but not the entire squad.

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The defence and goalkeeper are better this year but midfield and strikers worse than those that started last season.

You can't honestly believe that Varney and Green are better than Gradel, Howson and Snodgrass.

The suggestion that the takeover has soured the summer is also laughable. It has been the ONLY positive thing, unless you view paying top whack to watch the club sell its best players, stagnating in the the Championship for evermore, being outspent and outplayed by the likes of QPR and Norwich, all whilst filling Ken Bates pockets is positive.

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13 Sep 2012 10:34:49
new midfielder signing on 93 day loan today. source phil hay on t*****r
hopefully more good news to follow?

a_scarborough_white

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Danns, Derry, Tounge, Jenas?
RyanMOT

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Its Tonge who signed on loan
MOT!

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Lets hope your other rumour was true about the TO lol

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Until the end of the season not just for 3 months

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13 Sep 2012 10:01:24
Looking down this banter section you can see tickets for hull and Everton are low .. they are also very poor for Forest ..... people have simply had enough, we get told nothing, we are never kept in the picture and everything has to secret ..... can you really blame people for staying away ..... I for one are done, when he goes i will return and 11 of my friends are all saying the same, it is out choice, I'm sure you have an opinion on this, but its time to face facts, the current regime need to change their ways, in both communication with the fans and also and most importantly they need to show us all, just how committed they are on getting this club back where it belongs .... I don't believe throwing silly money at this you only need to look at Leicester, money isn't always the answer, but we have a great manager and if KB gave him 3 - 4 Million, he would I'm sure get us out of the league.... and let's be honest if we can get up, then what would the club be worth then .... considerably more, even us people can work that out ...... so ask yourself, why doesn't he invest .... they don't want premiership football, he wants a hotel, and ice rink, a leisure complex ...... bull shi* I say, focus on getting us up ! ... DHL

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I have to agree with you. Bates is short sighted. £3-£4 million would give NW the chance to get us up. Then Bates could really cash in. Silly old fool

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Original poster ... you are correct, we are told very little by the OS and the communication from the club must improve ... perhaps the appointment of Amanda Bland as Supporter Liaison Officer will help, given time but only if she is given the correct ammunition to fire at KB ... but not abuse, that will get us nowhere.

You then ask, "can you really blame people for stayng away" ... YES I CAN. You then say that "I for one am done, when he goes I will return and 11 of my friends are all saying the same, it is out of choice" ... whatever happened to MOT and supporting the team through thick and thin ... exactly when they need all our support most? The team are currently sitting in joint 4th place in the league in terms of points gained ... 3 points better off than last season and 2 points from top spot, 1 from second ... pretty good in my opinion after the starting fixtures.

Mr Bates has never had, and never will have my support but I have to ask where everyone thinks he is getting the £3-4m from ... his own pocket? Quite simply, no chance.

Don't be like disgruntled MU supporters when they have a blip ... simply do what it says on the tin ... MOT and support the team.

JDC

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13 Sep 2012 09:51:34
Linked with Jenas... We're now linked with Danns.... I bet Bates hit the roof when NW approached him about Jenas!
Bates OUT Bates OUT Bates OUT Bates Out Bates OUT

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Stop being a drama queen! FFS - Jenas is never fit and would cost an absolute fortune and probs not give his all anyway. To me Danns would be equally as good a signing. We need players with some balls.

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Jenas = over payed, overated. danns = hardworking, cheap, underated. if ken bates was any good he would obviously choose danns, all you want is a big has been name to sign pathetic.

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A fit jenas would be a regular in the England squad he is not at all overated just had bad luck with injuries last couple of years
Had similar injury to Delph but bet you were one of the ones screaming to sign him and he's half the player jenas is
Russjon

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Lol a fit jenas wouldnt get anywhere near the england team, never mind b a regular n no i also think delph was overated. danns would offer alot more than jenas. u cnt b tht stupid to think jenas would get picked ahead of gerrard, lampard, cleverly? look at jenas assists? hes a very selfish player n his stats prove me right

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Spot on Russjon!

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Read the post properly I said squad I never claimed he would be first name on the team sheet but would be a squad regular as he was quite often in and around before his injuries
I rate danns but don't forget he was a free last season and best offer was Leicester city
Bet jeans would have better offers than that if was released
Don't expect you to make sense of this cos you obviously struggle to read properly but never mind at least your happy
Russjon

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Also
You say danns is cheap
The story in the paper said that spurs to pay bulk of wages for jenas so that probably means he would be cheaper than danns
Also
Just noticed you putting cleverly in same bracket as lampard and Gerard
You clearly no your football
1 good game against Moldova hardly makes you an England regular does it
As he proved with his display against the Ukraine
Russjon

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LOL jenas would cost more in wages than danns would on wages, jeeze u seriously think spurs would pay that much lol. also i didnt put cleverly in same bracket i said jenas is no where near how good cleverly is n jenas was never a regular enegland player u weird kid. plus leicester being the team that got danns when he was a free agent, they are a quality team n why would jenas get better offers? we want him at leeds n we are no better than leicester infact they r better than us

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Well f*k off and support them and stop clogging up our sites with your sh!te.
Spurs were prepared to pay jenas wage so therefore would probably work out cheaper than danns who is even further away from the England squad than jenas who by the way was wanted by Sunderland manager Martin o Neil but he already had rose on loan from spurs so couldn't take him as well
But your probably right
What does oneil no
you have a pointless arguement
Go away you weird person
Russjon

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Lol so what if martin o neil wanted him, he would only have been used as a sub as hes not prem quality now. il post what i want pal u have a problem dnt reply simple dumbass. jenas england regular lol u talk out your arse m8. danns would deffo b cheaper on loan than jenas n that m8 is a fact, tottenham would have to pay atleast 35k a week just for it to work out the same as danns is on 15k n jenas is on 50k u do the maths, jeeze some ppl

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So if spurs are gonna pay 35000 a week how does that make him more expensive than 15000 a week danns person
Look at the facts
Jenas was a regular in England squad and if your a sub for mid table premier league club dunt that mean your premier league class
That's part of football having a good bench
But besides that why would oneil want to loan him to put him on bench surely he can warm the bench at spurs
Dint he go to villa on loan last season before he got injured
Another premier league manager who rated him then
What a pr!ck
I will respond to you as your aiming your ridiculous posts at me
You have no arguement do sit in your armchair and keep supporting Leicester you c0ck
Russjon

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Also if you dnt think i have an argument why u replying loser. simple fact is you dnt like anyone telling you your wrong but guess what im telling you your wrong big boy. also your pathetic to say to me " sit in your armchair" as every message i leave u reply to within the hour so obviously u need to get out of your armchair lil man

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Lol u mug, i said leicester r better than leeds as u only have to open your god dam eyes to see, manu r better than leeds dnt mean im gonna support them it just means i aint blind like you. clubs loan players for back up often n suderland have far better cms than jenas so yes he would b on the bench. villa were a very poor team last season n only just managed to stay up n wtf how were they mid table lol. well then dnt moan, my opinion means nothin to you as yours means nothin to me so put up or shut up u simpleton. jenas was never a regular in the england squad infact he was hardly ever even on the bench cus hes got a very bad goal ratio n poor assists ratio so you go look at the facts.

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Jenas 21 England caps and in world cup 2006 squad also represented England at every level from under 15 to senior squad
Neil danns???
You seem to love looking at stats so back your arguement up with some
Russjon

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LOL so what if jenas had 21 england caps? danny mills played for england b 4 n that didnt mean he was any good just meant we didnt have any better just like jenas. jenas was in the 2006 world cup team yes but he was on the bloody bench so dnt mean anythin atall. neil danns ripped us apart the last time he played against us, i dnt ever remember jenas ripping us apart do u simpleton?

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You were raving about lampard and Gerard earlier now jenas is crap even though he played for England
By tearing us apart do you mean when he scored a deflected goal for palace when they beat us 1-0
Plus in recent years he won't have ripped us apart as he been playing premier league football
Weird weird creature you are
And yeah Danny mulls was a good player
Russjon

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danny mills was soooo poor n u think he was good bless you lol. no buddy danns has ripped us apart in the last 3 games v us, hes a midfielder so by him not scoring dnt mean he aint ripped us apart. raving about lampard n gerard LOL all i said was they r better than jenas which is sooo obvious when i say someone is good i think your find that aint raving about them lol. jenas has never ripped us apart even when we were in the prem. if showing your support is by saing BATES OUT then jog on n go support man city as if you were any kind of real fan you would support everyone at the club but u choose to b negative so do leeds a favor n jog on.

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13 Sep 2012 08:53:21
We are after Danns from Leicester.

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13 Sep 2012 08:32:16
After sifting through loads of stuff on the internet and reading from what people are writing, apparently and even more surprisingly it's the consortium that's at fault and not Ken Bates.

If it is true that the consortium have already missed a payment that was due in July, can you really blame Bates for holing back a bit? I think anyone in his position would do exactly the same. As much as I dislike Bates, I can't fault him for this. And from a supporters point of view, it's worrying that these people can't make the 1st payment.

I don't think I'd be happy if Ken sold out just to anyone. Look at what happened at Portsmouth. The potential new owners MUST be the right kind of people & MUST have the funds & be fit and proper people.

As much as I want Bates to sell up, I'd rather him stay, than end up with a set of clowns like Portsmouth ended up with. I think it's extremely important that Bates is very thorough in his questioning of any potential investors/owners.

As I've already said, I am NOT a fan of the current regime, but grass is not always greener. I just hope we don't hound Bates out & force him into a sale resulting in the club going down the Portsmouth route. I seriously have a fear of this.

I know Bates resembles the devil, but sometimes isn't it better the devil you know?

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Theres a big difference between "can't" and "didn't"

Perhaps its not so much that they can't afford the payment but that they didn't make the payment on the deadline. Other rumours indicate Bates changed the deal at the last minute, would you just cough up the dough if that were the case?

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Whos to say this "first payment" story is any different from all the other rubbish people have been airing on this site.

I thought YP said it was down to an indemnity policy not being signed by MR Bates. Again I have no proof either way as nothing has been officially commented on.

All I have to go on is past actions and judging by those I would rather try the devil I don't know as the current one will take us down with him to the fiery pits of 1st Division football or administration.

J

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What a great post , i hate bates with a passion but agree with the fact of not being owned by the likes of Portsmouths mob - we need rid of Bates but not at the cost of our clubV

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Don't really buy into that myself. It's been said time and time again on here that before due diligence was granted proof potential investors had to prove they had the funds. Due diligence alone could cost anything up to £4M paying huge legal teams to paw over Bates' dodgy books. Would anyone who wasn't serious pay that sort of money up front then f**k up by missing the first installment. You may be right but I doubt it and hope not.

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I wrote the post. I'm not saying I'm right. Nobody knows what's really going on. All I said was, if it's true that they missed the payment would we really want someone like that to own/run the club. And secondly, I'm glad Bates is taking his time over this because I have a fear we're going force Bates into selling to ANYONE just to get him out.

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Wow ! Reasoned argument on the takeover - I've seen everything now!

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Agreed. Totally. Bates needs to go but NOT at the cost of the club. If the takeover takes a full season to complete I don't care. Just as long as the new owners are right for the club and not some jokers like the lot that killed Portsmouth. Good post!

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Yeah we dont want some 'joker' taking over. Hang on a minute, one did eight years ago and he s called Master Bates

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Portsmouths not dead just wounded
gaz1966

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To be totally honest I can't see how we could be in much of a worse position than we are now?

Bates may have 'saved' us if certain people are to be believed, but now he is selling our best players, not re-investing all the money in the team AND borrowing against future season ticket sales to finance new building work which doesn't actually need doing?

He seems to be taking on more debt, and sponging what money we do have out of the club? Won't be long before we don't have the money and/or assets to pay what we owe?

Does this sound familiar...

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I dislike bates, however he is a businessman and has done a few positive things but seriously leaves us underfunded on playing staff, in this league over 6 seasons we average about £500k per season on transfer fees, a club like Leeds should be doing £3m minimum!
However the worst chairman I can think of was ARCHER who bought Brighton,sold the ground to a supermarket and walked off with the money- what a c***!

White teeth

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Good to hear some balance. Unbalanced partisanship, bordering on hatred in some quarters, stifles debate and does our fanbase no favours, not least in the eyes of any potential investors. Chapel A

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I, as probably everyone who posts on here dont know what is actually going on but from the rumours that are abound the goalposts have been moved several times since the "due diligence" period. ie Bates upping the price 10 million etc. therefore the new consortium "missing a payment" - who ever set a deadline for payment, and who knows that deadline that isnt involved in the to and so covered by the confidentiality clause.
the answer is no _ one. so why are we setting such high stalll on this "fact"?
Keep the faith and the truth will out (and hopefully bates too!)
Yes you're right (original Poster) to say better the devill you know etc but ffs bates is not putting anything extra into this club as the rumours of arguments over the possible loans appear to show so what could actually be worse?

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13 Sep 2012 08:25:41
Roddy austin in team of week on ultimate team. What a beast dannylufc

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You are obviously not aware of the Bates propaganda machine. The story of missed payments is exactly the kind of story Bates likes to inform the Leeds fans, so that he looks like the person who has been harmed. Don't trust anything from Bates or Leeds United FC.

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Haha love the mis-placed comment on this!

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Some of you lot are unbelievable! b******* to the politics ... well done Roddy Austin.

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Haha he is talking about fifaa you wally,, definatleyy going on it right now and gna snap him up lol

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He us amazing in my team. Really want his in form but way to expensive for my leeds team.

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