Leeds Rumours Archive January 16 2012

 

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16 Jan 2012 21:33:46
According to a reliable source who works at Oulton Hall, Ken Bates and Neil Warnock have had dinner and drinks there tonight. Looks like Grayson's days could be numbered

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As if they would do it so public, can't you come up with anything better than that.

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Personally im not a Grayson hater at all, hes done a lot for the club and got it to where it is now and theres been some great times/results along the way, but for me surely the squad and results need to improve year on year, thats the managers responsibility, have either of those things happened this year ? not really, the dodgy defence that we saw last year is still there, have we really got a group of players that can compete week in week out in the PL, sadly no, or a squad that would need some tweaking to stay in the PL for a season then be built into a good PL squad ?!?! too many wasted points this season that we should have picked up, the teams above us have ground out results and thats why they are there.This was supposed to be the big year and promotion to the premiership with Bates banging on about it, Bates has to take a some responsibility but he isnt the one managing the team and picking the players, fact is Bates isnt gonna give Grayson money and with the resources Grayson has he isnt the manager to get Leeds up, that isnt saying hes a bad manager but in my opinion just not the right one to move Leeds on again with whats at his disposal, we are never gunna be able to judge Grayson when hes had the opportunity to spend some decent cash because he wont be given it so we have to judge him on what hes got right now and on the state of things he isnt doing enough. Grayson will be gone either now or at the end of the season coz in reality i think we all now its a slim chance that we will go up as much as we all want it. I think Bates will give Grayson the season then get rid then we must have a manager that can sort out the defence and get the best out of mediocre or unproven players, i aint a Warnock fan but is he the person to get em up !?!?!? if so then get him in and then get rid once we are there.........

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If Ken Bates was having a meeting with Warnock it would be in Monaco not the outskirts of Leeds.

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I also have it on good authority that a meeting between Bates and Warnock took place during the last few days!

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This is untrue mate, i was at Oulton hall until 10.30 last night i live in oulton, i take kids swimmimg there and me and wife was in the gym and then got some thing to eat. i never saw KB or NW.

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Did ken fly in from Monaco? Warnock will not be the next Leeds manager! I hope Grayson is in charge for the next ten years, that will mean we're successful. Making changes does not guarantee success,just ask forest and Leicester. Name the last club to change their manager during the season and get promoted to the premiership?

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I think SG has don't a good job for leeds but i think its time for a change i go every week and we've looked a poor side i also think SG as lost the dressing room, Warnock is a manager who knows how to get the best out of the players and get sides promoted love him or hate him he as a fantastic record

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NORWICH appointed Paul Lambert and got promoted! Palace did the same with Ian Dowie. Look what happened to Blackpool after SG moved on Doh!

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In reply to the poster who says "name the last team to change their manager and get promoted " - that would be Norwich and lambert

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I think bates is out in South africa!! he was compling about the reception of the aarsnal game in capetown

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To the 6th comment, Mate just because you never saw them does not make this untrue, But i totally agree, it sounds a bit far fetched.

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I think the original poster meant get them promoted in the same season. Lambert took over Norwich very early in the season and not halfway through.

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I'm pretty sure bates just gives the go ahead, sean harvey attends the meetings and issues the contracts at leeds

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Do you actually think any rated manager would come and work at Leeds with bates? They would look at our transfer outlay over the last two seasons and who we have sold and let go for nothing as bates was not willing to give out competitive wages and walk away. a large part of why we have such a good manager is due to Grayson being a Leeds fan, otherwise even he would have walked by now. Do you think bates would pay off grayson as well? Try attending some games and you may start to understand what a great job Simons done with such pitiful backing, however you probably won't due to your utter lack of comprehension of our current situation under this awful chairman.we are currently paying £20 average more per ticket, do you not worry where that money is going?

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Warnock took over at QPR and stopped them going down, season after he was in the Prem - so make sure you know your facts before blurting out comments on here

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If youre a Grayson fan or not, if youre a Bates fan or not the situation is simple. Mr Bates is a business man and as long as he can make money out of us he aint going anywhere. Bates should be made accountable for not giving Grayson the funds we all crave he should get, for charging the extortionate ticket prices, for not making ER an attractive proposition to potential investors with some serious cash, for not using his business skills and attracting another 5,000 plus on a Saturday through various price offers or some good marketing strategies etc and truly turning ER into an intimidating place for away fans and a fully supportive one for the players and getting behind them all.

However what we have got on the pitch is NOT good enough for our club and im sorry to all those Grayson lovers but look at the results, the squad, the performances and realise that with he has to work with he just ISNT the manager to move the team on from where it currently is. Get someone else in now or you will be feeling the same in May.

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He actually said who was last to change their manager and get promoted to PREM! that would be sunderland with roy keane! oh yeah and warnock is a liability a media pipebomb! u never know what hes gonna say,hes an idiot! dnt want him associated with our club!!

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I'm glad someone took the time to read my comment properly. Lambert and warnock did not take over mid season and get their team promoted to the premiership. It was a question to promote some thought, but obviously some people don't do that before posting

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Why would they have dinner near Leeds when NW lives in Devon or Cornwall sorry to talk logic through your drivel in Simon I trust.

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I think it would be a mistake to get rid of Grayson. What he's trying to do is build a squad that's capable of not only reaching the premier league but thriving there. He brings in young players that could be anything - sometimes they turn out to b nothing but that's the nature of football. Bates is a hinderance and I don't seriously think we'll get anywhewre until he goes but he can't live forever!

I've no doubt that if Warnock or another "promotion specialist" came in they would get us up but they'd do it by bringing in journeymen on daft wages (if the board let them) who have already proved not good enough for the premier league. The new manager would promptly get sacked in the January of our first season up with us bottom of the league and down we would go with more debt than when we went up. We've seen it happen so many times to other clubs.

So are we happy to take one miserable season in the prem? If no what's the answer assuming Bates does live forever?

Answers on a postcard!

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16 Jan 2012 19:28:53
New messi to sign for Leeds
Young Argentinian currently playing at River Plate been
recommended to leeds by alex sabella
17years midfielder with lightning pace and thunderbolt
left foot

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Would have thought you were in a big enough messi without signing any more

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This the same one spurs were after the other week?

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Yeah heard this too. heard kirwin mention young arentinian anyways. looks like only for trial basis atm

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Just looking at Grayson's transfer record from past 3 seasons, obviously missing a few who featured little, or I forgot.

Goalkeepers:

Lonergan *, Schemichal, McCarthy, Rachubuka, Taylor, Higgs, Warner

Defenders:

Bromby *,Collins *,Bruce *, O'brien * Naylor, Kisnorbo , O'dea, Crowe,
Capaldi, Connoly, Bessone

Midfielders:

Gradel *,Clayton *, Pugh * Townsend
Thompson, Watt, Sam, Nunez, Doyle,
Faye, Brown, Varyrynen

Forwards:

McCormack *, Somma , Keogh, Dickov,
Vokes, McSheffery, Paynter, Forssell

*Paid For.

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The only 17 year old for River Plate is Lucas Ocampos, and Chelsea, Man United and Real Madrid are after him, so thats a load of crap

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And with that transfer record he's still got us out of League One and into a promotion chasing Championship team. Now that must make him a very good manager and not the donkey a lot of so called fans on here make him out to be. On limited funds, we have a team challenging for promotion and a healthy financial outlook. You're not the manager, he is, stop whinging and trust his judgement for godness sake. MOT

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I was unsure why I keep coming back to this site, but now I know, some of the stuff posted here is more comedic than anything live at the Apollo can put on.
So "the new Messi" is at ER for a trial? Why? If he is that good he will not need a trial, and anyhow, given the present regimes record for judging players, he would not be offered a contract, sign for a top Spanish side, and be the top scorer at the World cup after next.
I really do think that for some of those who post on this site, lithium should be mandatory.

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I'm confused - is Rachubuka actually up there as a positive signing??
The man has cost us third place at the moment.
I'm not going to waste my time going through this list to point out other flaws in his signing's.

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Leeds have at least 10 17 year olds on their books, so stop talking out your arse.

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We have more than 10 17 yr olds,and if being debt free making profit and only 2 pts off top 6 is a mess then you are A bit thick mt.

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16 Jan 2012 19:23:53
Grayson will not be leaving and leeds will not be signing the likes of clingan, st ledger, beckford or sharp! why do you think were trialing the likes of patison and craig jones? (frees) realistic targets are lichaj, delph and parnaby (loans and frees)

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How come ken bates has said in several interviews that grayson has the majority of the money from the gradel & schmeichal deals! Bit tired of hearing all the negative carp..... obviously grayson will spend when he thinks the time is right

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Yeah and when the time is right he will buy more rubbish. or maybe he his holding on to the money so there is something in the bank for his severance pay. taxi for grayson. grayson out. papa smurf do the right thing we cant get rid of you but you can get rid of grayson. do it before its too late.

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I love his passion for Leeds, but his money signing's are hit n miss

Andy O'brien, Alex Bruce, Neil Collins, Bromby

Clayton, Lonergan, Pugh, Gradel, McCormack

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All that money.? it dunt equate to more than £2.5 mill maximum lol. most of that will be for the wages on the free targets...M.O.T

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Well maybe he should be getting his A** in gear and getting rid of a few of the dead weight so we have money from their wages available too. All we're doing at the mo is adding more freebies to our already oversized free-for-all of a team. Cancel some contracts Grayson, and whilst your at it, let the wantaways go too.

KB isn't stupid, so why does he allow all that wage money to be wasted on players who don't play, haven't played or wont play for us again.

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16 Jan 2012 17:08:03
Leeds United are in line to receive a cash windfall after ex-youth-team player Elliot Kebbie put pen to paper on a deal with Atletico Madrid.


The 17-year-old has sealed a transfer to the La Liga club seven months after walking away from the offer of a scholarship at United’s Thorp Arch academy.

The move was finalised on Friday but Leeds retained Kebbie’s registration and the right to compensation upon his exit from Thorp Arch.

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We could use that money to tempy messi over to elland rd ?

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If you are going to post, please at least and try to be original, this news is so last week

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16 Jan 2012 17:00:54
dunno how many people read the sun pull out super goals. but in there it suggests mgraysons job is under threat and the likely replacement is neil warnock. also read on the leeds united page on facebook that we have taken a winger on try from welsh club TNS. not saying anything will come of either but as it leeds rumour site i thought id post some rumours ive read {Ed025's Note - real football fans should not buy the sun!!

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It,s a rag mama rag
even daily mails better
on second thoughts maybe on a par

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Graysons job should not be under threat imo. it should have been and dusted at the end of last year. what new manager is going to want to come to our club and inherit the rubbish grayson has signed. ie brown paynter o brien etc. his replacement whoever it may be will have little or no time to improve the squad. we need somebody at the club who can attract decent players not has beens.

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Grayson is going nowhere, him and bates are very good friends.

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I somehow doubt 'friendship' is high in Bates' mind when he is thinking business.

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If you read the Sun then you need a slap in the face!

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U cant attract good players without giving them good wages because other teams are willing to pay more than leeds so we will miss out

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16 Jan 2012 17:54:08
Leeds are trialling Matthew Pattison. Source:Leeds UTD
I know what your thinking. Who is he? So did I.
Then I checked him out on youtube. He plays for Mameloudi Sundowns in South Africa. So I'm expect this big, strong, black, intimidating, African, holding midfield guy....yeah.
Wrong!!
He's a wimpy looking, pasty, white guy, with bald head and ginger eyebrows.......formerly of Norwich.
So now I'm really thinking "What the!"
Anyway, I watched some video of him and to be fair to him he's got a hell of a pass, looks very composed and if he trials like in this video you'll definitely be seeing him in a Whites shirt soon.

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LOOKS A REAL GOOD PLAYER I KNOW HE IS PLAYING IN A CRAP LEAGUE BUT STILL VERY GOOD BUY HIM KEN BUY HIM

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This is the sort of player we need if we we`re to get beckford back.

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They look good passes on them dusty pitches but on a slick surface would he be able to judge the pace as good ???

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He looks good, like a left footed Clayton, would be a good signing.

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Does look good. Pacy, good vision, intelligent looking player. Hopefully will be as good in real life as this video suggests.

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He looks great, realy busy and what a final pass!

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Nowt special. Can see a pass, but as most of our lot give the ball back to the other side, what's the point. We're more in need of someone who can put their foot in and break up play.

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He looks ok,but when you watch the video clips a lot of the time he picks the ball up in the centre circle and there isn't an opposing player within 10 yards of him,he wouldn't get anywhere near that time in the championship,worth a look at for nowt though,thats the type of 'fee' we like!

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I remember this guy... im pretty sure he pleyed for newcastle for a bit?

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Billy Paynter could post clips on YouTube and look like Messi !

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I agree with the above post. A few good things but generally I can't really see anything that stands out. The majority just a lot of hopeful passes that don't come off. Not his fault, but they also rely on team mates running for the ball and quite simply that wouldn't happen at Leeds. He failed to make the grade in this league before so why would he be any better now. Plus point is he looks like he has a bit of pace which Leeds are sadly lacking (other than Aidy White)

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I think he looks carp. A lot of his passes look over hit. And I dont see many goals coming from his passes.

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Why has there got to be some idiots on this page! I personally think that he would be the right man to fill in howson's boots! Just because he's put a few passes wrong doesn't mean he's crap! I hope papa smurf signs him up! Probably sell him in a few years anyway! MOT

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I would buy the whole team! they look a damn sight better than we do.

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16 Jan 2012 16:58:01
Just heard on Yorkshire radio from Tom khirwin himself that both Leeds and west ham are in for Fabian Delph on loan however that is it no bid or any thing he also said Delph would probably favour loan move to leeds over west ham however it's no where near a done deal he did not mention any thing about graysons future source Yorkshire radio

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If west ham want delph we have no chance because there will pay more towards his wage than leeds will if not all of it thats why we will lose out on a lot of players

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Mates a Villa fan and tells me at least five
champioship clubs have enquired about his
availability on loan

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16 Jan 2012 15:28:24
Ed have u heard any thing about sg leaving / sacking it seems highly unusual that he hasn't spoke to press especially Eddie Gray on Saturday after palace game I listen to lutv live every week and never known him not to speak to Eddie Gray something must be going on ? {Ed001's Note - I haven't heard anything regarding him going, not yet anyway.}

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16 Jan 2012 15:18:54
The reason why AoB hasnt departed yet is beacause maybe SgG is actuall on his way out> dont know if theres any truth in this but it is just a rumour. {Ed001's Note - please leave out the tittle tattle! This isn't Hello or OK magazine.}

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Sorry ed didnt think of it like that< apologies {Ed001's Note - no worries, you aren't the first person to try and post about that, I just don't want the site to end up as a celeb gossip site.}

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Sadly dear readers SG was at training this morning confirmed, so its very unlikley he is going anywhere. I am certain also Uncle Ken would not think SG's alleged replacement a certain Mr Warnock warm and endearing ! Its the twitisphere usual BS i am afraid. We can live in hope i but never NW please !

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Regardless of whether SG is in or out -personally I hope he gets at least until the end of the season - O'Brien will never play for Leeds again. Why would we want someone who doesn't want to play for us? Distinctly average player anyway. We deserve better. MOT

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16 Jan 2012 15:04:34
So whats happend to this 14:00 announcement about grayson going? So adamant aswell!! Tut tut

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Im rather gutted oh well we'll have him until end of the season then, we might aswell just call this season off

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Unfortunately this site seems to be full of people who, for some reason, think it's funny to make stuff up

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Just seen jóse mourinho at Leeds/Bradford airport deffo going to speak to Mr Bates about his new job as Leeds manager!

What a load of crap let's all get behind the team and support what we've got! Graysons doing a good job with the money he's had to spend!

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Uncle albert is the enemy.we must generate more money than any other team in this division .delph,kasper,gradel sold but we never know how much for.we got money from chelsea and everton for poaching our kids .we earned from our cup run against stum and spurs,but first division teams spend more on transfers a lot of championship teams spend more on wages .we only compete with the premiership with ticket prices .give grayson some credit

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16 Jan 2012 13:42:05
i have heard from a mate that leeds are in talks with ALAN CURBISHLEY to take over from simon grayson who apparently has been told by ken bates time has run out for the yorkshireman due to the inconsistancy and lack of wins at elland road... i wasnt sure if i should believe him, but since the draw at palace simon grayson has not spoken publicly about any football matters or transfers to do with leeds united. is this because he has been told to avoid the limelite, or is it because this rumour is true? glynn snoddin has done all the interviews, and did the after match analysis with LUTV, simon grayson hasnt even spoke to the yorkshire evening post! so why not? maybe the time has come? on a personal note i would be dispointed to see him go being a leeds lad and having the club at heart which is rare for any club, but its a results business.... and of late, we arnt getting the results we need.

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Curbishly has been out of football for some time now if grayson does leave his post at leeds there are alot better managers out there to choose from !!...but the question is who would be the fans choice ????

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I'd sooner Grayson told Bates that time had run out...

Move over for bloke who bought Man City's richer mate. i can dream. But the sooner the smurf like financial bed blocker gets lost the better

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Grayson is the man for Leeds! forget Warnock forget Curbishley! Have faith! LRS

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Can you tell us who these managers are.. that are available please? not saying your wrong, just wondering... also, its not down to us fans, its down to fat uncle kens wallet....

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Mancini ant done a interview for a while for man city. david platts been doing them? mancini leave too is he? NO! stop reading between lines that arent even there. LRS

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Mancini doesnt do them because is english is pants .he gets a bit angry when he cant understand the questions

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16 Jan 2012 13:13:28
If grayson gets sacked leeds will go for david platt to be next manager.

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Dont make me laugh.........would rather have Donald Duck

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I think he's ok, always puts in a good performance on Coronation Street.

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Gd choice if we get him

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Its alright being an assistant to a man who can spend millions without it touching the side, but managing a side with the change from kens latest holiday is another thing. The grass isnt always greener MOT

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The guy who wrote David Platt is to be the next LUFC manager is delusional

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16 Jan 2012 12:36:48
Bolton apparently interested in leeds defender Tom Lees, he recently signed a deal until 2015 so would command a significant fee.

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Dont sell him he is our best defender and future

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Why cant Bolton do one? think they've been linked with howson Clayton and now lees? why would they want to go to a team who's premier league days are numbered?

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16 Jan 2012 12:01:49
Sky Sports sources understand Bolton Wanderers are keeping tabs on Leeds United starlet Tom Lees. Gj

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Dont know why cos they are worse than us. championship for them next season

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If he went we will be playing against him next season, if you are gonna go, you would go to a team with prospects, not one in free fall

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What worries me is Bates might cash in on him, and I rate Lees, think he is doing a good job
I'd want 3 million plus 20% of any future fee if he goes Gj
ps why is Grayson so quiet??

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I live in bolton (a lifelong leeds fan) and i can say bolton are the worst team in the top 3 divisions, never mind the prem, boring crap, why would he choose them instead onwards and upwards with leeds united, bolton will be relegated this season, and probably freefall, cause their team is so bad¬!

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I'm a chorley lad who has always supported Leeds and yes I do go to eland rd have done for twenty years. But I went to the reebok to the Sunderland game (took my grandad for his birthday) the home fans were silent even away fans were mocking with shhhhh constantly and the team has no spirit what so ever really poor. If a Leeds player went there they would regret it after the first home match. Proper shi@e. On the other hand less than £20 a ticket so I now know why we Leeds fans moan. Shi# ale tho lol

Chorley white

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Lees has been a leeds fan since he was young and he clearly wants to carry on with the club as he wouldnt of signed new contract, piss of coyle

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16 Jan 2012 10:55:26
yes delph will come and so will lichaj,as ive said before my work colleagues brother plays for villa.lichaj now fit.also the villa forums are full of abuse for hutton and abusing mcleish for letting lichaj go on loan.would like to see a striker now to replace becchio then we have to give things a chance for grayson.if this fails then it will be bye bye,,shrew leeds

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Your post is wrong on two things becchio and Grayson. Grayson will be out of a job, this will bring a manager he actually plays football and will create goal scoring opportunities for becchio to actually have a genuine goal scoring chance, rather than the long ball s**te.

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Yes you may be right but im right ref the 2 villa players no matter if grayson stays or not..shrew leeds

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You obviously havent seen us play so dont comment on 'long ball s**te'! Any fan who has seen us play, rather than those making stuff up, will realise Becchio's form is nothing to do with how we play. Now get back to school.

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I will be glad to both delph and lichaj back but all these comment about grayson is stupid.Hes done a good job on the budget he has been given, you look at our squad and theres only 2 premier league players and thats howson and snoddy after that you will struggle to name anymore. We our 3 points outside play offs so get off graysons back and get behind the boys!

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Signed Rachubka - cost us 8 points (minimum).
39 + 8 = 47 points -> 3rd place in the League.
That is not a budget problem. Thats is a Grayson problem.

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Even the best managers make mistakes red nose signed tiabi veron 30 mil

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Managers live and die by there decisions bye bye grayson

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We don't play long ball football so person that said this don't go to matches.becchio did not get a pre season so is playing catch up.

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U disagree with the red nose comment taibi was w**k keeper n veron was a waste ov money whats there to disagree with?? {Ed001's Note - perhaps, being a Leeds fan, he loved to see those two playing for United and so thought they were amongst Fergie's best signings??}

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The best managers do make mistakes but they drop them after 1 game

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16 Jan 2012 10:40:13
I believe it's telling that Snodin has made all the noise since tghe palace game he is on the OS. For me this confirms speculation that Grayson is to leave his post officially today, I expect confirmation of this around 2pm today.

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If Grayson actually comes out and says something about the game, transfer targets etc this will put an end to all this speculation.

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Lol getting on for 3pm and still no news of larrys departure just as i thought To the poster of this you are a clown

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This just in: the Russian National Circus have discovered this site and want it to be known that they are currently hiring clowns, so they thought their search should start here.
Hopefully some of the clowns who post complete nonsence will get a job and be so busy that they are unable to post, allowing reasonable discourse for others.

When I find out if anyone is hiring idiots and tools, I will post back.

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His knee is still hurting him! and is undergoing intensive treatment from the physio

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It was because grayson was getting treatment for his knee, he's going nowhere!

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16 Jan 2012 09:27:54
Official Leeds United twitter says Leeds ARE eyeing a loan move for Delph. On a seperate note; personally would be gutted to see Grayson leave if these rumours are true, dont think they are, but all the same, dont want to see him leave.

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I would be delighted to see him go as he is probably the worst long term manager in the clubs history.

On the original point about Delph this is a pending loan deal.

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He isnt the worst manager Leeds has ever had,remember he lost 20 goals a season (Gradel) and Beccs is not the same player also a 20 goals a season
He has had no support from Bates,but i agree its time for a change,i reckon Warnock will be the new boss sometime this week

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To the first reply, what a ridiculous comment, he got us promoted from league 1, dont be so stupid and think before you comment.

We wont sign Delph and Grayson will not be leaving anytime soon.

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He is probably the worst manager in recent times. he nearly messed our promotion season up with his naivity. we have conceeded goals for fun since his tenure began. sg is totally out of his depth our club is to big for him. taxi for grayson.

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16 Jan 2012 09:12:14
Grayson has not 'Left his post' (Rumour started on twitter) & Delph will deffo be back by the weekend :)

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If this is correct which I don't believe it is, can you explain the silence from SG on any official club duties since the palace game? No appearance on bbc, skysports, ESPN, Yorkshire Radio, Yorkshire Eve Post, and the Leeds OS or any other news source

Also Darren Gough on talksport last week let slip that Paul Grayson had been in contact to tell him to leave off Simon and to stay away from the Grayson facing axe story.

Keep tabs on OS site around 2pm today!

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Nonsense, he won't leave the club today, you're reading way too much into things

Do you really think people on here would know about this rumour, yet non of the websites you have mentioned have even contacted the club to ask for confirmation of the story?

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Didnt do any interviews on Saturday, as was having pyhsio on his knee, therefore Snodin came out and did all the talking - bascically same as Grayson normally says- hoping to get one or two more in etc-

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Bates announced his confidence in Grayson last week -that's what usually happens just before a sacking too...

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Hhmm Coventry Ticket News seems to be the top headline on the Leeds OS at 2:21pm

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16 Jan 2012 08:13:19
Matthew Pattison on trial, south african midfielder.

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