Leeds Rumours Archive August 18 2011

18 Aug 2011 21:00:42
just been in wine bar (nice bottle of chardonnay) 's spoke with roqua's Dad
Will be coming to Leeds if can make wages right not a lot to do as City will pay most {Ed025's Note - had one too many ..me thinks..

Keep taking the tablets just like the doctor said......

You recognise Roque's dad but can't even spell his name .... jog on

What a coincidence I was in a wine bar and met Roque's Mum. She wanted me to tell you that however much you offer her per week, she is NEVER doing THAT. If you don't leave her alone she's calling the cops. Bad luck :0(

I may be wrong - I've been following Leeds United for forty years but maybe I don't know anything about the game - but if Roque Santa Kruse is a gleam in Simon Grayson's eye, I'm a dutchman. The whole rumour stems from Roque's father trying to drum up interest in his son's rapidly-fading career, and lazy journalists copying stories they can't be bothered to verify. On Tuesday Leeds trounced Hull without last season's top four goal-scorers (and without Billy Paynter.....) It will be a real problem for Simon Grayson on Sunday - does he leave out Nunez and damage the morale of a player who's developing into a star? Does he leave out his captain, Howson? Does he leave out Gradel, a stir up rumours of him leaving? Never mind all this stuff about "it's a nice problem to have" - it's a problem - get it wrong, and Grayson may lose the loyalty of one of his best players. The thought that Grayson might want to complicate matters further by adding an ageing, injury-prone Santa Kruse to the mix is inconceivable, and the supporters who advocate this can't count - we're really not allowed to field twelve strikers, you know. But, there again, maybe I don't know anything about football.....

Well said to the last post. I would leave Gradel on the bench and start with Nunez.. In fact I would start with same 11 as Hull game.

I would not leave gradel on the bench-purely due to his contract situation. We can't afford to upset him at the moment, but hey that's the management/boards fault, they should never have let his contract reach this situation

Why change a winning team? (expect for the captain) Keep confidence in the players who gave us a positive performance and more importantly a first win. The only player who I feel is undroppable is Howson, was never a red card last week.

Who are you people saying you no santers dad quiet disturbing get a life. i bet you all the tea in china we wont be getting mr cruze he will go to sven.
drop mcormack for gradel and brown for howson mot

Firstly nobody has noticed the original poster has a time machine as the last time anyone was in a "wine bar" was the late 80's/early 90's and finally as for the team on sunday I would either bring howson in for brown or keep to the same 11 that started against Hull, Tuesday's performance was the best team perforfance I have witnessed at Elland Road in a long time. Keogh and Mcormack were awesome

MOT

18 Aug 2011 18:58:52
can't believe all the negativity surrounding the possible loan signing of santa cruz, first of all wages aren't the issue has we have seen city are willing to pay wages for players to go out on loan i.e bellamy to cardiff last season, then there's the case of his goalscoring abillity, his aerial threat and his actual presence in the oppositions box would scare the death out of most defenders and goalkeepers, have some faith and hope bullard comes to leeds too, a real character and would be brilliant for the development for our young players at ER...

MOT

Totally agree both would be excellent signings

Have you seen him play regularly over the past couple of years then,even his own fans hopes he comes to Leeds,or ANYWHERE,hes not as good as what weve already got,presence my arse.

Spoken like a true arm chair fan, how have we got better than santa cruz you muppet

Pure speculation from his dad. I see no announcement by Leeds indicating their interest

And then there's the fact that the bloke hasn't been physically fit for eons...

Santa Cruz is not coming to Leeds. There has never been any mention of him or Leeds being interested in a deal. It stems from his father saying the championship has some big clubs in it, and naming Leeds as one of them. It is pure fantasy to think that we're going to sign him. As for Bullard, well I'd rather not. He's unfit, injury prone and causes disharmony within a squad. Do we honestly need a player like that? I think not.

Its just his dad who also happens to be his agent throwing his name around so clubs realise hes available and not dead as nobodies heard of him for ages. dont need him we need defenders cb and Lb

Are you all completely stupid Just because teams like Cardiff can afford Bellamy and Leicester can afford Yakubu on loan...does not mean Leeds can afford anyone. you have brought in O'Dea and Keogh for gods sake Bates will spend no money - the whole world knows that.

Lastly read the bleeding article on SSN. His dad simply says he would drop to the CCC where there are big clubs like Leeds. He doe snot say he wants to move to Leeds. Simply that the CCC is a respectable league to play in. Stop living in dreamland your an embarrasment to football

Santa Cruz maybe but definitely not Bullard. People who keep declaring Leeds are an embarrasment to football because of discussion over a link in the press need to get a life. If we're so insignificant why do you all care so much?

Because its not a link..its pure fantasy. You may as well say Leeds are going to get Messi - its literally that stupid that your an embarresment

a REALISTIC link may be something like: 'Ken Bates is going to answer to the calls from the Leeds faithful by digging into his pocket and snapping up Ashley Chambers from York City. Grayson is said to have been a long time admirer of the winger and hopes he will be the second winger from the Leicester academy to shine at Elland Road. However wages appear to be a stumbling block - as Chambers is currently on £325/week

You're a huddersfield or barnsley fan aren't you, if not why don't you enlighten us and tell us all who you follow, give is a good giggle

18 Aug 2011 15:49:40
Roque Santa cruz to Leeds at William hills and coral has been slashed from 12/1 this morning to 5/1 now Very much a fact a no gossip

I think you'll find its very much gossip. fact means when something is true. if it was a fact you wouldn't be able to place a bet. if you want the bigger boys to explain this with smaller words let me know

So since the bookies slash the odds that makes something a fact? You need to sort your head out if that's your thinking At then end of the day the bookies work as much on rumour as anyone else

I think you will find bookies ain't always right wasn't it a month ago smiths price got slashed 1/2 and were is he now

No i think what you'll find mate is that it's speculation based on gossip based on adding 2 and 2 and getting 22 from what they player's dad was translated as having said...not exactly scientific is it?

I think he means 'the odds have been slashed' and that, indeed, is a fact. He doesn't mean it's a fact that he's signing.....

The slashing of the odds on Sata Cruz has nothing to do with him actually coming to Leeds.
This is a Bookmakers ploy to pry more money out of punters wallets. By cutting the odds like this punters think that the bookies are onto something therfore take the bet. When in fact if the bookies did know something the ods would go from 5 to 1 against to 3 to1 of 5 to 1 ON. Dont be fooled its a marketing ploy. How do I know you ask, My son is a Bookie.

18 Aug 2011 15:01:30
Leeds Will not get Jimmy Bullard we wont wannt him and santa cruz will not join leeds due to man city want a sale loan option is only a thought

18 Aug 2011 13:46:58
My mates dad is ian miller and he said that manchester city have said that they will pay £72k of Santa cruz' £90k wage if he comes. If he goes to leicester, man city would pay £40k of his wages.
He also said that grayson is interested in jimmy bullard who is now a free agent, his wages could be a stumbling block though
Also he said that grayson is staying hopeful of signing a new centre mid, he is hoping of getting either Fabian Delph or Barry bannan back to the club. If he fails in them deals then he wil turn back to sammy clingan.

Im a bit sceptical about the whole 'ian miller said grayson wants bullard' when this has literally just been announced that his contract is being terminated. also i doubt that miller would tell any secrets about leeds's targets to anyone...maybe his dog or cat. on the other hand if this is true and your friend is the son of miller, i can bet that miller will be giving his son a hiding for telling you and has let out the secrets at ER

.. We've already got Santa claus bringing us gifts like a motel, billys bar (no kids) new east stand saving our club how would we cope with two Santas

I agree utter nonsense, however think santa cruz could be true due to bellamy going to cardiff and not paying anything for him, with man city anything can happen, fingers crossed

Would like to see Bannan back on loan, is a quality player, not really seeing how we need yet more midfielders however

Jimmy Bullard
Good player but a mercenary and over paid. He's held Hull to ransom for ages now Bates wouldn't dream of having his kind at ER.
Santa Cruz - not likely, but we'd of said the same about Bellamy last year, so who knows.
But your definitely speculating about this otherwise your a complete plant pot for mentioning Ian Miller and are likely to get a slap off him for flapping your gums.

Hello jimmy bullard here i'll take not a penny less than 11k a week but can't promise i will play often because wet tissue is stronger than my knee ligaments

Please get your heads out the sand i will bet my years salary we will not be getting santa cruz, he has no interest in coming to leeds people are taking this whole story way way way way out of context.

18 Aug 2011 12:01:32
the rumour coming from the city board when askedbout santa cruz they said he is on 90k they will pay 72k but santa cruz said he will decide later this window with leeds high on his list he said he knows there history and wants to make it again .but city said dont bank on owt as some clubs might be willing to pay 5million for him there basically waiting for offers then pick but his familly have lived near leeds btw iam a city fan and dont really like leeds but found this out and want to see yyou back where you belong..... blue moon rising :D

What do you mean you don't really like Leeds, are we not bonded by our mutual hatred of the Scum?

Thanks for the info but dont confess you 'dont really like leeds' you'll just get abuse

If he don't like Leeds, he don't like Leeds.
Nice that he wants us back though, where we belong, in the prem, above MC.

I mean i hace been brought upto hate man u and leeds man u coz there our neighbours and coz leeds was dirty leeds everyone hated them to this day both clubs hate leeds and tht shows how big leeds is i watch matches all over country and they sing we all h8 leeds scum , you need to get tht nasty back into leeds coz thts what make leeds passionate hard fans

Dont like leeds wtf lol just give us santa claus and aguero till january and everything will be sorted MOT were on the up

Finally, a decent guy from Manchester Cheers mate

Its fine hope we get leeds in fa cup at elland road for some reason i love that ground the history , the atmosphere , passion,its top notch , i believe your are in top 6 clubs in country best not say too much iam meant to hate leeds haha good luckk for the season lads and about santa tht is true

Ere gadge Why you saying you don't like Leeds. Not reet clever that mush.
Thanks for the info and say hello to your brother Liam from me.
Look forward to some good banter with your fans when we come up.
At least your fans are built up of love for the club like us rather than glory hunters. Good luck for this season and next season we'll give you a slap lol

18 Aug 2011 04:56:15
Leeds have a tough game this Sunday against
West Ham. In my opinion, Simon should stick to
the 4-4-2 formation in the first half. Did really
well against Hull on Tuesday.In case, if it doesn't
work out Simon can revert to 4-5-1 in the
second half. Howson to replace Brown (too slow)
and Clayton to be the holding midfielder. Let
Nunez play the first half and see what happens.
This guy been scoring freely lately. Unleash Mad
Max in the second half to replace Nunez. Simon
should bring in Montgommery as the defensive
midfielder. Brown's past his prime. A pacy
experienced LB is what we need. O'Dea and
White not your answer. White only covering LB
temporarily. Rumours circulating Leeds might
sign Santa Cruz on loan. Wages a stumbling block.
Forsell on trial. Knowing Bates he will go for
Forsell not Santa Cruz.Well if Man City willing to
pay say 80% of his wages, Leeds should sign
Santa Cruz. Imagine Santa Cruz and Beechio up
front. Make this happen Simon. Leeds fan.

O'Dea isn't naturally a left back and White played excellently on Tuesday night. Why the hell could he not be the answer? He's quick, tackles strongly (to say he's small) and gets up and supports the wingers. He's just what we need

I agree trhat 4-4-2 is the way to start against W Ham. The pace of nunez and the trickery of Snodgrass feeding 2 strikers would frighten them. No way should Gradel be given a start after getting himself sent off and being 100% responsible for us losing 3 points against boro. He needs to earn a starting place. Also if Santa Cruz was to come, then the question would surely be who would partner McCormack and not playing Cruz and Becchio together. I think White is a decent left back and should be given the opportunity to make the position his own rather than try and bring someone else in.For the money we would be willing to pay we certainly wouldn't be buying any better. O'Dea looked a far better centre back than left back. Although am not his biggest fan, Brown did a decent job against Hull, although he may not be as good against stronger opposition. The problem is in bringing Howson back in who would he replace in 4-4-2. Clayton would lose his impact as a holding/defensive midfielder.

I for one thought that Aidan White and Tom Lees were outstanding and O Dea looked good in the middle. I hope we can sign either forsell or santa cruz. We do need a strong tackling fast midfielder but those are hard to find. MOT

Why should Leeds sign him,his scoring record is about as good as Paynters,sign the player,not the name,look how much Kaka cost,hes exactly the same,cant give the pair away,stick with Keough,and maybe Forsell.

Do you not usually sign off as 'A concerned Leeds fan' ?

OP clearly wasn't at the game on Tuesday. Brown was excellent and allowed Clayton to run the midfield. O'Dea was immense at the back - he's actually bigger than Kisnorbo. White's only errors were with his heading and the team shape was very good even though Hull changed their formation about three times. Same side v West Ham please.