Leeds Rumours Archive November 18 2012

 

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18 Nov 2012 21:18:03
Sorry I can't go along with this negativity around Neil warnock, 8 promotions says it all, there is no one better, comments that the players we have brought in are average, some of them maybe, but that's all the budget can afford, if you look at the ones that Neil tried to sign, and failed due to budget, they are all doing well, he is now deflated due to continuing debate around the takeover, we have had major injuries, players sent off, he can't do anything about
That, we need to stick with him and hope that the players get fit, back from suspension, and the money finally turns up, without that we will be top ten with him, with money play offs still very realistic. Keep the faith..

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No chance, warnock needs to go ! long ball kick and rush no longer works in english football !

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Get your facts right before amking such a deluded statement

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He can do something about it. Start playing football and cut out the bully boy tactics. Varney deserved to go, his elbows were up and he caught the player. Warnock got the players in and to me they don't want to fight for him. Leeds are a joke. If the takeover does nto take place before the transferwindow we will be in Div 1 before we know it. get a grip Warnock

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At the end of the day we don't have a cat in hells chance of promotion on the way things are going?

Who you gonna blame when we get relegated then?

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"without that we will be top ten "

You are having a laugh, if we don't get any investment we are looking at league 1 again mate!

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Forest fan here,hope you guys get sorted soon!everything just seems to be dragging on and on.our takeover seemed to take ages,always checking to see if any news,when it does its such a good feeling,keep yer heads up guys.all the best!!!!but always get behind your team.

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I have the greatest respect for Warnock; he's a good manager and, as far as I can tell, a good, honest man. But the project he took on last season has failed. The project was to build an entire promotion-winning team from scratch with an outlay of less that 1 m in transfer fees. Not only did he have to acquire mostly free transfers, but make them gel as a team, get them playing according to his tactics and stay at the top of the table. The project was doomed to failure from the start, and now it has failed. We will not be challenging for promotion this season and may be lucky to avoid relegation (well, where do you think the next win is coming from?) Warnock has stayed on because of the expected takeover, but that still seems to be uncertain - in any case, how can a dubious investment company that has taken 6 months to persuade the Chairman that they can afford to buy the club, be relied upon to inject the 10 - 20 m needed to mount a credible challenge for the premiership? I say to Neil, go now, save yourself the stress - you've done your best, but you were not given the means to achieve the target set for you. This will not help Leeds United, but it may give you a pleasanter retirement - you didn't fail - it was all beyond your control. Good luck to you.

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Yes thats a good point so many fans dont think about things like that and just moan constantly

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He has no money and the club is in crisis - stop blaming the manager! Clueless as to where to aim your anger
The board room and lack of funds is the issue!!!!

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19 Nov 2012 03:16:32
no manager as got or ever had 8 promotions in the history of English football .warnock as managed for over 30 yrs hes had relegations as well as promotions .i dont think 7 promotions in 30+ yrs is that good when we had a manager that we let go who as now had 3 promotions in 6 or 7 years and looking like he is gonna be in with a chance of promotion again this season .Grayson also had no money in championship but was always around the playoffs .bates made a big mistake getting rid .we now play boring football and watching the opposition play is what livens the game up.warnock should of just retired last reason .

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Lets be honest most clubs in the championship have spent very little money however Leeds are able to offer better wages than most,I am fed up all the pro warnock fans using this lack of funds as an excuse for Leeds being rubbish.

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All im saying is Brain Clough!!! great manger but couldnt make it work out at leeds. Grayson had less money and did better, max Gradle 200,000- luke V 200,000. Also Grayson miss out on targets but still did a better job. neil out now!!

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Lol relegation? we wnt ever get relegated with warnock n warnock knows far more about being a good manager than anyone of you so back of. the players need 2 get a grip n start playing n stop the greed. peltier needs 2 defend n stop attacking n brown needs 2 defend n stop taking pathetic shots n varney n pearce both need 2 say sorry as both yes both were pathetic red cards 2 get n they both deserved them. apart from austin n becchio n lees no one deserves 2 b a leeds player, come on we r leeds n we have poor players like varney, white, peltier, brown, green, norris its just not right n even with the takeover we will still have these awful players playing for us n every game iv seen not 1 player sat on the bench even look like they want to play n it just seems they r using our team for there easy undeserved pay. it has 2 stop but il always b supporting our team n none of this pathetic boycott rubbish. its simple if your a true fan your support leeds in div 2 as i will n its shamefull that ppl wouldnt.

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Real supporters supoort there team n manager so all you negative ppl go n support city as your not needed. warnock is a gr8 manager n hes proved it every year n will also prove it this year n please all the ppl saying grayson is better lool grayson walked into a good team at hudds n he got 1 or 2 other players n he aint doing gr8. 1 or 2 bad bad players we have n its them week after week letting us down. brown n peltier. peltier was brought to defend yet attacks more than anyone which is pathetic n brown chooses to shoot from pathetic places when he should b passing as he obviously wasnt brought to score goals so he needs telling! better balls onto becchios head n the goals will come but we have no gradel kind of players n untill we do then we will b mid table n we will never get relegated with warnock n ppl that think so r very stupid.

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'Hold on guys'.... Titantic loss of life was down to the passengers and crew not the hole in the ship ! We are going to sink this club with all these negative statements and malaise. NW is a good manager but he's suffering with injuries and limited funding 2m doesnt get you premier league. A typcial PL player alone will cost you 8m. He's had 2m to simply stabilise a team and try to be in playoffs for Xmas. It hasnt worked any were all critising his attempt. Give the guy a chance and get behind him otherwise were all just a bunch of sad losers. Its a sad position but its not the end of the season

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Anyone who believes that Warnock, and not Bates, is the problem really hasn't been paying attention...

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Warnock may have a reasonable track record, but as it stands one win in 9 and sittin near bottom of the table isnt good enough our kast manager got sacked for far less to be fair

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It aint warnocks fault that our 11 men cnt stay on the pitch. pearce for me should b ashamed as he knows we need him as our cb n we have no decent cover n yes he fully deserved his red card. if anyone is 2 blame i blame the useless players n not warnock or bates. how simple is it to not get a red card! if we get the takeover i hope we get rid of the pathetic few players we have like brown, varney, green, white, peltier n get someone 2 score goals so we can get rid of diouf as we r leeds n we dnt need any rats n yes hes been good so far but as a st he should b better with the experience he has

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PersonallyA I think everyone should get off warnocks back he's done everything he can with this little squad I don't think mourinhio could do anything with it yes he has brought in some bad signings and some good ie diouf and the person slating him above must never go to matches ! Dioufs been our best player so far he's done all he can do with the players around him !

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I go 2 every game n if u can read i said diouf has done well so far but at the end of the day hes a rat n if we get the takeover we can buy better than him. he only looks half decent now as the rest r rubbish apart from austin.

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18 Nov 2012 19:54:07
The trouble for GFHC at this stage is that they have lost all cofidence and goodwill in the fanbase! Takeover in august would have felt like having a broken leg healed, and we would all gone crazy in optimism. A takeover now - november/december - will feel like being handed plastic protheses while both legs have rotten by longstanding infection - just to enable this great club limp on through the rest of the season! Most fans have lost faith in their ownership - before it has even started. We no longer believe they posess the strength and power needed to lead us forward - if they did, they would have finalized the deal long time ago, or pulled out!

In august, we would be overwhelmingly satisfied with wise and careful long term investments. If they take over now, it will take some real heavy investments to win back the fans faith and confidence... There will be no room for hesitasjon and failure!

It won't be easy in january: two thirds of the championship clubs will be chasing play off, and will not listen to offers for their best players. PL players are hard to get - unless you go for reserves with nearly no proper matching in months...

I'm sick and tired of GHFC... and hold them responsible for ruining our season! Best option will be alternative bidders coming forward, bidders whith clean hands and no closet skeletons - the GHFC no longer fit this description!

Doc-N

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One of the best posts on here for a while.

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Well written agree with you entirely

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How can you blame GHFC no-one knows whats going on with regards to this long drawn out process of the takeover,we know nothing ,so it could be bates fault,but we don't know,in time it will come out until then you cvan't blame them or anyone else,

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GFH to blame for the state we are in HA HA HA HA HA classic statement. You should apply to the BBC as a writer of comedy.

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Very well written. I agree with your sentiments though the guy who states that we just don' know has a point. Bates must be a nightmare to deal with - cantankerous old ******* - but a good company would have had this rapped up long ago. The season can be saved but its going to take a mammoth effort/luck!

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Well said, there was a time when any negative comments around the takeover were posted on here you were accused of not being a true supporter, it seems now things are slowly changing. GFH should be questioned, I fear this has now been a wasted season. Just let's all remember whoever takes over this club it will only ultimately to do one thing - make a profit.

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Plain and simple ghf have nothing to do with the team atm end of. who you should hold responsible is the players and manager they at the end of the day create results

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True they'll want a return on their investment- but the only way they'll do that for the amount GFH will be putting in is to get us back in the Prem!

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18 Nov 2012 19:23:39
Warnock has done his best, the man has not had a chance with financial restriction and how Bates buisiness skills of how not to run a football club to it's best potential. However this said I feel it is nearing time for a change, if we lose our next couple of games especially.

Imo our next manager needs to be from a championship club, someone who understands how football needs to be played in the modern game and in this league. Someone who has experience of this league and which type of player would best fit into how he would like Leeds United to play their football. Players who can hold the ball, pass to feet and move into space, look for the ball and want to be involved during the game. Players who can defend, control the game in midfield and provide the forwards, forwards who can play together and score goals, players who can turn defence into attack quickly, players who can be disciplined and not commit wreckless, needless fouls and silly challenges. Players who canhandle pressure and want to play for Leeds United, team players, not greedy or those who go MIA. We need to bring in some established younger players, look at the teams who get promoted and who are in top six at the mo, they have team experienced young fit hungry for success players. Leeds United have a team of league 1 & 2 journey men.

GUS POYET COME ON UP BAC TO ELLAND ROAD, the last time you were here we played some very good football, !!

I hate to admit it but our form is relegation form at present, the guy on a website said only Bristol City are playing worse than Leeds, on current form!

LUFC always WHAT EVER LEAGUE WE ARE IN.... MOT

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From a die hard MILLWALL fan,your support for your team today on a sunday was 'GREAT' I sulute you! COYL!

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Thanks Millwall -respect to another 'real' football club, one in touch with its fanbase and community. Always liked South London. As regards Poyet, yes, I too would love him as our next manager (regardless of when or why NW eventually leaves, though not personally calling for NW's head just at this juncture). Chapel A

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This has nothing to do with the leeds fansite, but great support at the 'DEN' this Sunday,'YOU LOST BUT YOU DID YOUR TEAM PROUD!COYL

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There is. I better at getting promotion than Warnock the stats show this so pls do research.

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Some really good comments here, warnocks type of football doesnt bring success in the modern game. The forwards need service, the midfield needs creativity. Grayson should never of been sacked bad mistake when 3 points of the playoffs. In Grayson we TRUST .

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As you acknowledge that the real cause of the team's recent form is the underfunding in the summer, what makes you think that Poyet, or anyone else, would have produced any better? Bates blamed Grayson a year ago for the team's failings - he's now well above us in the table because his chairman supports him. Don't make the mistake of wanting us to lose another decent manager for the same reasons.

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18 Nov 2012 16:36:00
hearing rumours warnock gone any body else heard owt

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Yeah i heard he's resigned

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No he bloody well hasn't and he won't either, not until this damn takeover happens I tell you nothing will change!

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Yes home mate

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Yeah, gone home for his tea and after his breakfast he'll be back in the morning. Dont be a *****

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Yeah hes gone home to think " why did i take this poison challice on !! "

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Hopefully he does go! im sick of defending him!!

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Hopefully he walks he has turned the team into a laughing stock....last season and this seasons form has been atrocious. A team of players who are half a yard behind everyone else. We lose all 50/50's, don't have the pace to keep up with fluid sides and can't hold a ball up and bring others into play. Infact it looks like we can barely get a chance to score in a game apart from a set piece.

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I hope so. After todays excuse for a performance. When are we going to start creating some chances?

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18 Nov 2012 16:18:52
Positive's today............
Drury actually looks like a left back.
Lees played ok I thought
Byram did ok
I just wish Doofey had a bit of pace.
if Hall can score 4 then Derby should be worried for there reserve squad
the rest were total crap
"T"

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I thought we was unlucky to loose and i think neil got the tactics right i thought all the back 5 played well even peltier. the trouble was we never looked like scoring bechio lost every header, hall never got in the game, dioff did ok but never seemed to threaten, tongue went missing for all of the match.

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18 Nov 2012 15:46:31
sorry but warnock has to go,HIS,team and tactics are the poorest i've ever seen,the hoof it and hope style is lge 2 standard,HIS team couldn't string 4 passes together,i know he has his hands tied but surely we can't excuse how our team are playing,yes we went down to 10 men but we never looked like scoring with 11,we need takeover to go through and we need a new manager fast or we WILL go down,cos we just can't pass the ball around it's frustrating and woeful to watch, no more excuses warnock's record as our manager is one of the poorest we have ever seen,the players look like they have never seen each other b4,new owners and manager needed asap,

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You keep saying his team, i agree he did sign alot of these players , but do you really believe he would have bought them players if he had money available?

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Agreed mate been watchin the form slip for a while now, yes understandably we've got couple injuries but at the end of the day that's Warnocks squad I see players goin out on loan to worse clubs then us so I duno how much I blame the finances, most disapointing is the crap performances were turning out ans the equally bad discipline throught the team while Warnock has the cheek to blame sending off and ref descisions, I don't think we shud b calling for his head but its time he does something(anything) about it!

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Agree with everything......unfortunately

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You say "HIS TEAM" like this was his total list of requested purchases. Most of our team are what Warrnock classed as squad players or were the only options available when the money disappeared. The money he was expecting to provide the quality was never given so he has made do with the team he had available. Like Grayson before, you can only do so much with limit resources.

Granted his style of play is not the most interesting or challenging but is this based on what he is trying to achieve or again how he thinks the players we have left will work best. I remember George Graham playing the most boring football imaginable but it was the ground work of something great.

Its now impossible to say what Warrnock would of achieved with Leeds if he had been given the money at the end of last season he was expecting. He has a hard job ahead and the TO will likely be too little too late to really push for promotion. I wouldn't blame him if he walked.

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This is a rumours site what you said is true so maybe wrong place to post your opinion.Trevo

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How can this team or any team play for a manager they know is gonna be gone come may,whether we get promoted or not.

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I said at the time,with the players he was allowed grayson was doing a fantastic job,yes defence was leaky but that has been the same with every manager since wise,but at least we were good to watch going forward.with the exception of the everton game i have not been entertained this season and i see very few plus points.
its ok saying warnock has only bought squad players,but they are terrible.grayson was only allowed loan players.
we need to start from scratch,new owners,new players,new manager.
warnock said he enjoyed game today.
i didnt.

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Agree with 4 th poster, and we were doing ok today, even when down to 10 . defence looked solid, hall and byram looked a threat, we needed mccormack from the start, which wasn't advisable, just ran out of steam at the end

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Totally agree warnock has been atrocious with leeds. I can see him taking us down. Long ball no longer works looks like we are made to keep it solid and hold out for nill nill. We cant pass or control the football midfield none existent. And no service for front men. Grayson should never of been sacked. Warnock needs to go soon before the damage is too much.

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Changing the manager now is suicide. A new manager in will want his own players which will cause unrest in the camp. This take over has become a farse and should have been completed months ago and we would have had the real squad NW wanted he has had his hands tied and now lets wait and see who is available in Jan Im guessing not to many!!

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18 Nov 2012 13:14:16
Becchio and Hall to start today

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18 Nov 2012 08:43:10
Sunday Times reporting that
Preston Haskell has bettered long-
standing Bahraini bid and has
promised 10 million pound transfer
budget if Ken Bates accepts his
offer.

Believable12 Unbelievable31

Bullsh*t ,stop making crap up . gfh still have exclusivity period until that is over no one can bid on leeds united

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He is ken bates mate. He is just saying it to get gfh to finalise the deal. He only has 150 million which is a lot but in terms of buying the investing in Leeds it's not enough.

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Y wud u try tempr sumone to sell by sayin you will spend 10 on the team after u take over, hardly gonna make Bates jump lol

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Give the money to a new manager,Warnock has lost his touch

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Bates is obviously trying to stir things up by releasing information again about rival bids. If they would just conclude the deal then these rumours will stop.

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Get another manager ? warnock out of his depth ?you are such a person, warnock has done his best with the resourses he has been given and injuries has not helped, so give him a chance with a bit of money under him, ashley,, telford,,, M,O,T,,,,

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This guys a pal KB.Offer is in sunday times so no one is making it up unless its the press again.But i do think KB is trying to force the GFH issue.But might back fire

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To the first poster. The exclusivity period
ran out on Friday.

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No Leeds have got an extension on the period because of the paperwork been sent to the Football League.

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*beats head against wall*

fatfreddyscat

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By snail mail? I thought we were ok today - we didn't give up which has to count for something. Neil Warnock will
not walk away from a challenge - which
is what he is faced with.

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If you do some research people , you will find that haskell has 160 mill, but his family are worth billions

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I refer to my post of 12 hours ago. I kind
of like David Haigh but if GFH don't get
a wriggle on then Preston Haskell sounds
alright to me. Please God not another
25 centuries of due diligence tho .......

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