Leeds Rumours Archive June 21 2011

21 Jun 2011 23:36:36
hi iv been told the following via a former leeds legend smith bowyer woodgate virtually done deals, given 1 year loan, also kevin phillips and upson arriving .......what you think ed? if its true possibly more outgoings? {Ed015's Note - hopefully no more outgoings, De vries, Given and upson would be fun signings}

21 Jun 2011 23:26:30
Ed, do you see us signing Smith and Frings? Or is it a case of one or the other? I'd imagine wages might be an issue with securing both of them. I hear the Smith deal is further down the line than most of the Leeds fans realise? {Ed015's Note - smith is more than likely if we can agree wages, Frings im unsure about, ild like to see both join}

21 Jun 2011 23:04:19
Alan Smith will be back!
bates will offer a contract for woodgate if he doesnt except that will be it!
Bowyer will either go to West Ham, QPR or Leeds!
Paynter swap for Montgomery deal will happen!
Grayson will ask man city for given on loan, but we will not pay all of his wages so doubtful!
rachubka will come in! Kirkland will also be offered a contract if man city dont except a loan deal for given!

IN Simon Grayson we TRUST!
TRUTH!

21 Jun 2011 23:02:16
How come Sutcliffe from the Yorkshire Post says we are "quite far down the line" with Alan Smith, in a talksport interview? What would be the point in talking to Alan if this Frings guy is coming? {Ed015's Note - Both are possible}

21 Jun 2011 22:44:09
Leeds set to sign ex Blackpool keeper Paul Rachubka
Source: Sky Sports News

21 Jun 2011 22:37:55
Leeds United's goalkeeping target is former Blackpool player Paul Rachubka
Source: SkySports

21 Jun 2011 22:36:39
Source- Sky sports!

Apparently they understand Paul Rachubka is th GK incoming!

21 Jun 2011 22:34:15
Paul Rachukba is apparently the "mystery" goalkeeper according to sky sports

21 Jun 2011 22:31:07
21 Jun 2011 21:41:05
With Grayson in charge its going to be a very long time indeed before Leeds get to the promised land of the premiership, in fact it will be that long it will probably be called something else - he simply has to go, we need to get someone in who actually knows how to manage a team !


Are you actually for real?? Look at graysons record at leeds.... 2 full seasons. 1 promotion and a 7th place in our first season in championship. So wat if we sell kasper... Scum sold ronaldo and still win the league... IN GRAYSON WE TRUST !!!

21 Jun 2011 22:26:10
Torsten frings will sign bringing an end to smiths return as they are both similar players money won't be an issue because at the moment he is a free agent and not earning

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Ummm I think money is a problem here. Frings has only just become a free agernt and was one of the highest earners at his previous club, Werder Breman.

21 Jun 2011 22:08:56
www.talksport.co.uk/radio/kickoff/blog/2011-06-21/sutcliffe-bowyer-woodgate-and-smith-have-all-spoken-leeds

yorkshire post's richard sutcliffe was on talksport tonight
here's the link.

21 Jun 2011 21:40:15
Anne Robinson and Chris Tarrant to take over from Ken Bates. Max 'the swan' Gradel to start training afresh as a Goalkeeper. Peter Schmeichel and Kasper Schmeichel to have a baby boy.

21 Jun 2011 21:37:05
Torsten frings will sign bringing an end to smiths return as they are both similar players money won't be an issue because at the moment he is a free agent and not earning

21 Jun 2011 21:32:32
I hear Paul Robinson is on has way back to Leeds. {Ed015's Note - Nice wish}

21 Jun 2011 21:28:22
Paynter for Montgomery, SSN {Ed015's Note - just seen that, would love both players at leeds, paynter may no of scored many but he was in the right places at the right time on the pitch}

21 Jun 2011 21:21:01
To ed you said would millwall sell forde to a rival were selling a better keeper to a rival what's the difference {Ed015's Note - millwall dont have ken bates}

21 Jun 2011 21:10:16
No Ed no one in there right mind would do something as stupid as that what sell your no1 goalie to a rival club ridicules .Or would they {Ed015's Note - kasper aint left yet, fans are acting like hes gone already... }

21 Jun 2011 21:02:41
For clarity Ed, Ken Bates did not save Leeds United. When he bought Leeds on 21 January 2005 we had debts of £25million. When we went in to Administration at 3.15pm on Friday 4th May 2007 these debts had risen to £35million. By the time of the creditors meeting KPMG restated these debts at £46million, include £12 million that had been borrowed and spent in the previous three months....

Considering that during this time he actually got us relegated to League One, this kind of financial mis-management would have made Peter Ridsdale blush {Ed015's Note - and under Ridsale we was almost bust, then handed around a few diffrent people before bates brought security to the club. bates did what he had to do, fans may hate him but hes a buisness man and knows what hes doing, get off his back and support him for a change, lets see who wants him out at the end of the season if we gain promotion! }

21 Jun 2011 20:48:20
Skybet has Smith, Woodgate & Bowyer to join Leeds in the summer at 9/2

21 Jun 2011 20:43:04
We already have one donkey(Paynter) don't wan HESKEY as well.

21 Jun 2011 20:11:33
fed up with reading people moaning that we have done this and done that sack the manager. bates wont spend.what a load of bull---t you wont be moaning so much in 2 or three weeks when we have a few new faces .be a proper leeds fans and back them {Ed015's Note - Well said, Yes its sad to see kasper go but no reason to sack Grayson, and Bates has kept the club alive! }

21 Jun 2011 20:01:21
Given/kirkland
lichaij
Woodgate
Kisnorbo
white
bowyer
smith
howson
snodgrass
gradel
becchio

21 Jun 2011 19:58:08
Leeds United Outs
Bradley Johnson Free West Brom
Neil Kilkenny Free Ipswich Town
Kasper Scheimiechel 1.7 million Leicester City
Fede Bessone 150k Carlisle
Mike Grella 200k Watford
Billy Paynter Loan Sheffield United
Lloyd Sam Loan Milwall
Leeds United Ins
Scott Loach 1 million Watford
Eric Lichaj 1.25 million Aston Villa
Jason Koumas Free Wigan
Alan Smith Free Newcastle
Johnny Woodgate Free Spurs
Adam Lefondre 1 million Rotherham
Nigel Reo Coker Free Aston Villa

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21 Jun 2011 19:20:52
Shay Given is not coming to LEEDS
Skybet have latest odds of 1.36 to go to Villa
or 3/1 to go to Celtic

21 Jun 2011 18:36:45
Ed, where do pictures appear on Leeds rumors mobile, under the text? Cant wait to see these supposed pics of shay given, lol. {Ed015's Note - on the mobile site? no idea bud never been on it}

21 Jun 2011 18:29:12
i would be well happy if we get shay given still aquality keeper what do you think {Ed015's Note - Defo up to the level we need, and has the same ambition}

21 Jun 2011 18:28:40
Just been on sky sports Leeds have signed an unnamed goalkeeper, why unnamed? {Ed015's Note - parents forgot to name him?}

21 Jun 2011 18:20:52
Where do we find out who is available on free transfers please guys??? I need a list!

Oh and in Grayson we trust, save your naysaying until we see what he's got up his sleeve {Ed015's Note - check the FA website}

21 Jun 2011 18:10:27
we need to start building a team for promotion we have now lost kasper (why would he want to stay even if this deal falls through after what grayson said about him) we have lost bradley johnson and killa and we have a defence who couldnt stop the local blind team from scoring and i hope for graysons sake that paynter starts to find the back of the net soon unless he is planning on keeping him for when we go down if our team isnt strengthened i am not wanting to appear like i am jumping on the band wagon by giving them grief we have alot to be greatful for when it comes to bates love him or loath him he saved the club and grayson wants the best for leeds so i do still hold out hope from them both but lets hope something happens soon we need to have a mix of youth and experience not just experience

21 Jun 2011 18:07:07
Selling schmeichel has angered the majority of fans , he was one of about 6 players worth building the team around . It'll take some quality signings now to get us optimistic again .

21 Jun 2011 18:05:37
Leeds are hijacking Sunderland's move for Keiren Westwood while also in talks with Manchester City over season long loan of Shay Given, plus Lee Bowyer seen at Thorpe Arch today.

21 Jun 2011 17:44:17
I have just heard from someone on the train back from work that SG is looking at giving jens lehmann a short term contract. I had a look on the Arsenal website and it is not showing him in the first team squad anymore and on wiki it is showing him as not retired can you shed some light on this ED. {Ed015's Note - He is a free agent, havent heard anything about him retiring}

21 Jun 2011 17:28:57
apparently shay givens a cert!!! {Ed015's Note - i wish}

21 Jun 2011 17:27:09
I am upset to see Leeds let kasper go he a good keeper and only 24yr it defence that needs sorting not keeper. And people are sayin I is only June don't forget pre season starts next week we need players in for that plus look at all the talent that are geting signed and who we got no one.

21 Jun 2011 17:24:04
21 Jun 2011 17:14:28
ive never ever slagged off simon grayson. but this transfer window i have kept patient. Weve signed Monty Gimple. or was it Monty Python? I was pleased when he rejected the norwich bid for snodgrass, but all i kept thinking was if we can keep Schmeichel, Howson, Snodgrass, Gradel, Becchio and get rid of all the rest and build round them even with free transfers, the likes of Smith, Gabbidon, Westwood, you know there are some really good quality players out there, Bowyer and Frings played over 40 games and scored important goals for there clubs last season, we should be looking to bring these in now and get rid of the dead wood and i thought we were gonna be ok. But the whole Kasper Schmeichel saga has ended my trust in Grayson now. I hope he proves me wrong, My word tho the only one that could replace a goalkeeper with the passion of schmeichel would be Paul robinson for me, but we aint got a cat in hells chance with the tight fisted Chairman of ours. Im a fan of Bates but i really thought he would deliver this year in terms of financial backing. He has really done well with Leeds and saved our club but i wish someone with the same business nouse, but with a bit of financial backing would come in. We need investment. Someone made a point today, why are we building a hotel on a stadium we dont own? Surely it will only add to the value of the stadium and we wont be able to ever afford to buy it back lol unless bates thinks it would attract potential investors? HOPE SO

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its only 21st of June mate, lets be patient and see what happens with transfers before jumping on anyones back

21 Jun 2011 17:20:07
I reckon theres more to this Kasper transfer than what people are reading into, SG wouldnt except this bid of what i consider peanuts unless he had an ace up his sleeve i doubt hightly that it is Brown because like his surname namesake Wes he is shocking, and i think people need to get off Uncle Kens back, without him there would be no Leeds United Football Club people need to remember that, if Kasper leaves and we get a better keeper in, then fair play to SG so lets see who we get in first before jumping on his and Bates' back

21 Jun 2011 17:14:28
ive never ever slagged off simon grayson. but this transfer window i have kept patient. Weve signed Monty Gimple. or was it Monty Python? I was pleased when he rejected the norwich bid for snodgrass, but all i kept thinking was if we can keep Schmeichel, Howson, Snodgrass, Gradel, Becchio and get rid of all the rest and build round them even with free transfers, the likes of Smith, Gabbidon, Westwood, you know there are some really good quality players out there, Bowyer and Frings played over 40 games and scored important goals for there clubs last season, we should be looking to bring these in now and get rid of the dead wood and i thought we were gonna be ok. But the whole Kasper Schmeichel saga has ended my trust in Grayson now. I hope he proves me wrong, My word tho the only one that could replace a goalkeeper with the passion of schmeichel would be Paul robinson for me, but we aint got a cat in hells chance with the tight fisted Chairman of ours. Im a fan of Bates but i really thought he would deliver this year in terms of financial backing. He has really done well with Leeds and saved our club but i wish someone with the same business nouse, but with a bit of financial backing would come in. We need investment. Someone made a point today, why are we building a hotel on a stadium we dont own? Surely it will only add to the value of the stadium and we wont be able to ever afford to buy it back lol unless bates thinks it would attract potential investors? HOPE SO

21 Jun 2011 17:11:43
to the person who said they were turning into a junkie checking it every ten minutes or two - yeah, strangely addictive lol come on guys sign someone damn it! {Ed015's Note - It is still June remember, plenty off time yet}

21 Jun 2011 16:48:31
Who made this website, it's taken over my life of late lol. I'm like a junkie I'm checking it every 10 mins or so haha.

21 Jun 2011 16:22:30
any news on the new keeper its been at least 10mins and no new name yet {Ed015's Note - there are plenty of names thrown about, check the leeds rumour and banter pages}

21 Jun 2011 16:00:57
Look S.G. & K.B.... LETS BUY SOME DECENT PLAYERS OTHERWISE WE BETTER START SAYING BYE TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP!

21 Jun 2011 15:46:55
The goalkeeper who has agreed a deal with Leeds is Marcus Hahnemann. Smithy and Woodgate keen to return to Leeds however Bowyer keen move back to London

21 Jun 2011 15:44:55
As much as I love leeds and have supported them since a baby, I hope uncle ken shows some loyalty back to the fans by BUYING quality, he saved up bt he lines his pockets evry 2 weeks with hard earned fan cash, if we don't sign quality players I see us becoming a middlesborough, fans dwindling no coin and no guts!
MOT hopeful fan

21 Jun 2011 15:41:29
LEEDS UNITED have been linked with an audacious move for former German international midfielder Torsten Frings.

The 34-year-old is currently a free agent after leaving Bundesliga outfit Werder Bremen, who recently elected not to offer him a new deal, andreports suggest Leeds are in discussions to bring him to Elland Road.

With Leeds in the market for an enforcer in the middle of the park, tough-tackling Frings, who won 79 caps for Germany and appeared in the 2002 and 2006 World Cup finals, would represent an attractive option.

While largely being defensively-minded he is also able to operate across the midfield.

Money is likely to be a major issue with Frings who won a Bundesliga title with Bayern Munich in 2004-05 understood to have been one of Bremen's top earners.

Meanwhile, several Championships clubs are understood to be in the hunt to sign former United midfielder Lee Bowyer, who has been linked with a possible return to Elland Road.

Bowyer, 34, who recently got married, is currently assessing his options with several interested parties keen on signing the Londoner, who started 24 Premiership games for Birmingham City last term and was also part of the side which claimed a historic Carling Cup final success over Arsenal at Wembley in February.

Despite an impressive second half of last term, when his performances were labelled as "terrific" by ex-Blues boss Alex McLeish, Bowyer was shown the door following City's last-day relegation.

This was despite being tipped to stay at St Andrews in the closing weeks of the season, with an offer of a new one-year deal seemingly on the table. (Source YEP) {Ed015's Note - Torsten Frings rumours have been around a while}

21 Jun 2011 15:31:53
Leeds Utd did speak with Coventry City's out-of-contract goalkeeper during the final few months of last season when it emerged he was unlikely to sign a new deal. (Yorkshire Post)

21 Jun 2011 15:13:55
21 Jun 2011 14:16:44
For the person who said Bates is trying to stall our promotion bid in order to not pay back huge moneys to creditors, you are completely correct, however it was within 5 years. So if we do get promoted this year (or last for a matter of fact) we have avoided paying huge amounts back :-) Ed can you confirm this? {Ed015's Note - i will do some research tonight about it, its a complicated subject, wil post all results on here, }

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That was me - as I understand it the CVA was originally entered into in mid-2007, meaning that if your 5 year estimate is accurate, should we be promoted next season we could be liable for the payout. However, I hear from legal sources of mine that Bates may have offered a 10 year period to make the CVA more appealing to HMRC. If this is true then we may have to put up with mediocrity for the next 5/6 years - but then I don't see the point in that because promotion = £90m in revenues and any Bates offer can't be worth a windfall to HMRC of more than £10-20m.

Aaaah, the beauty of a transparent ownership structure.... {Ed015's Note - thanks for that, saved me the hassle off looking tonight, }

21 Jun 2011 15:04:33
Leeds agreed a deal with an unnamed gk subject to medical. Source; Simon Grayson speaking to Yorkshire radio
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Also now on OS. Seems to be a bit of a change of tune from Larry. Now claiming accepted bid for kasper because we needed to strengthen in that position!

I agree with the leeds website and what larry said the defence does need to be strengthened but the only player from the back that was any good was Kasper. Ken Bates just getting more out of leeds than he put in.

21 Jun 2011 15:02:26
My mate at city says shays move to Leeds is a given! Onandon {Ed015's Note - that meant to be a joke in there?}

21 Jun 2011 14:49:41
only keeper out their wort talking about is shay given, to replace kasper...but wish kasper was staying.. {Ed015's Note - there are others but bates wont want to pay}

21 Jun 2011 14:34:09
21 Jun 2011 14:26:54
on wiki...jason brown is waiting for contract at bb to end and then he will join leeds..mot {Ed015's Note - Step down in my eyes}


Wiki is a public domain and can be changed by anyone I might alter messi's one to say he's joined Leeds and a 10yr contact lol {Ed015's Note - wiki may have its problems but with SG saying that they are just waiting on a keeper passing a medical and the fact that brown is a free agent, it all adds up}

21 Jun 2011 14:31:53
21 Jun 2011 13:27:55
Jason Brown seen leaving thorp arch. Why get rid of kasper and bring him in, he is useless {Ed015's Note - my thoughts exactly. }

Jason Brown is in Egypt, so unless Thorp Arch in next to the Spinx i dont believe you

Matt Duke is the name doing the rounds

21 Jun 2011 14:19:43
Grayson is spot on re Kasper. He was a good shot stopper, but at times a bad decision maker, and his combination of confidence and inexperience was not a good influence on the back four. Grayson says he was looking to bring in a better keeper anyhow, so presumably Kasper would have had to leave or be prepared to warm the bench. With his high wages the bench situation would not have been tenable for club or player. I think it's the right decison to move him on from both a footballing perspective and a financial perpsective.

To some extent the player can complain that he has been treated badly, but the Bosman ruling created a two way street.

21 Jun 2011 14:16:44
For the person who said Bates is trying to stall our promotion bid in order to not pay back huge moneys to creditors, you are completely correct, however it was within 5 years. So if we do get promoted this year (or last for a matter of fact) we have avoided paying huge amounts back :-) Ed can you confirm this? {Ed015's Note - i will do some research tonight about it, its a complicated subject, wil post all results on here, }

21 Jun 2011 14:10:19
Hi Ed what are the chances of shay given pulling on the gk shirt next season ? {Ed015's Note - I alsoheard the rumours, not much chance but with city not wanting to let him leave to a rival club and his value going down due to lack of action, a good season in the championship could be good for all partys}

21 Jun 2011 13:59:23
21 Jun 2011 08:55:24
leeds to sign usa international Eddie johnson and lewis boamorta both for around 2.3m and dobbie looks interested in a elland road apperence source from leeds training ground (coach)

Eddie Johnsons a free agent, so why would we pay 2.3mill

i21 Jun 2011 13:55:11
Any thoughts on Alex Smithies or Joe Lewis potentially signing Ed? {Ed015's Note - championship quality at most, As a club aiming to achieve premiership status then we should be looking at That kind of Quality Level, Smithies and Lewis could do the job in the Championship but if we Gained promotion then would they be up to the mark?}

21 Jun 2011 13:48:51
Maybe we are all being a bit quick blaming Bates! I am not Kens biggest fan by any means but maybe SG has decided that Kasper no longer fits into his plans! I cant understand it either but there has to be more too it than they are letting on. If Kasper has left the club does that make him a free agent, will we still get a fee? Something very shady is going on and i hope and pray that we sign a decent keeper (Westwood) soon to fill Kaspers boots, but i wont hold my breath! {Ed015's Note - Kasper still has a year on his contract so no he is not a free agent, westwood was in talks with sunderland}

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we are also in talks with westwood i read it other day grayson himself said it. {Ed015's Note - can not find this anywhere, post a link to it?}

21 Jun 2011 13:27:55
Jason Brown seen leaving thorp arch. Why get rid of kasper and bring him in, he is useless {Ed015's Note - my thoughts exactly. }

21 Jun 2011 13:14:00
{Ed015's Note - i would love it if kasper turned it down and signed a new contract. although i have been told he has left leeds i guess leeds accepting that bid shocked him and made him feel unwanted.... well played bates!}

His twitter account, which sky sports took there quotes from i believe also states that as far as he is concerned he is still a Leeds player and will have to seriously consider his future! {Ed015's Note - i know this now, i have been away from all sports news over weekend. was quite a shock to hear we accepted the bid. but after researching around you are correct}

21 Jun 2011 13:08:40
Just seen Alan Smith and his car at East Stand... {Ed015's Note - photo evidance always helps}

21 Jun 2011 12:44:05
Grayson has just been on Yorkshire radio saying that the decision to sell Schmeichel is for football reasons and all money brought into the club can be spent on transfers (not that i believe that).

He also stated that we were looking to bring in 2 or 3 goalkeepers, and one had agreed terms already and will join subject to a medical. It was also suggested that Kieren Westwood may be a target for the club.

Any thoughts Ed? {Ed015's Note - Westwood signing would be a shock to me, i am unsure as to who would benifit the club, Brown has been linked as a replacement goalkeeper, so has Given on loan but that would be a miracle}

21 Jun 2011 12:36:02
Has anyone actually thought what a ludicrous idea it would be to bring Bowyer and Woodgate back to Leeds?! As good as these players are, or were, with their history would putting the two of them together again be seen as a good idea by anyone investing money - ie Bates?!! {Ed015's Note - Forget the past... a fit Bowyer and Woodgate can still do the job}

21 Jun 2011 12:05:22
Maybe we are all being a bit quick blaming Bates! I am not Kens biggest fan by any means but maybe SG has decided that Kasper no longer fits into his plans! I cant understand it either but there has to be more too it than they are letting on. If Kasper has left the club does that make him a free agent, will we still get a fee? Something very shady is going on and i hope and pray that we sign a decent keeper (Westwood) soon to fill Kaspers boots, but i wont hold my breath! {Ed015's Note - Kasper still has a year on his contract so no he is not a free agent, westwood was in talks with sunderland}

21 Jun 2011 11:44:32
Once again ken bates puts more doubts in the life long leeds fans by accepting a ludicrous offer from a rival club for our number 1. Yes to a certain extent i understand him not wanting to lose him at the end of the season and not get any money from it but surely he could be vital to our promotion chances this season and if we let him go we will not fill his boots. He has made it clear he doesn't even want to leave so why drive him out? If anything try our best to keep him and build from the back. I just cant understand us being left without a goalkeeper and ken bates and simon grayson not showing the loyalty or effort to get our club where it belongs. Yeah we are going to have a lovely new dart stand and facilities but they wont matter when we get stuck back in league 1. Time to get your finger out bates and think about the team and its future. Keep hold of our best young players and build the team around them. No amount of money should come 1st especially the peanuts your accepting for 1 of our best. Turn down the offer kasper get us promoted and show bates if it's money he's after then welcome to the premier league! {Ed015's Note - i would love it if kasper turned it down and signed a new contract. although i have been told he has left leeds i guess leeds accepting that bid shocked him and made him feel unwanted.... well played bates!}

21 Jun 2011 11:16:18
I'm a little concerned that the lack of signings and the release of decent players all have something to with Bates' deal with LUFC's former creditors. I hear that there is a clause in our CVA stating that if we get promoted to the Premiership within 'x' years of the date of the CVA we would owe our former creditors a massive amount of our future earnings. Seems like Bates is trying to stall our promotion bid lads....

21 Jun 2011 11:08:07
21 Jun 2011 09:46:05
kasper to sign for Leicester today, says he wants to move to a bigger team


What a crock of crap. Kasper said he doesnt want to leave and is devastated leeds accepted the bid... Direct quote from his twitter page and ssn {Ed015's Note - His future is in his hands}

21 Jun 2011 11:04:17
bates out he would sell his grandmorther {Ed015's Note - probably}

21 Jun 2011 09:46:05
kasper to sign for Leicester today, says he wants to move to a bigger team

21 Jun 2011 08:44:57
After selling Schmeical to a rival team Simon Grayson needs to get a keeper and replace Johnson and Kilkenny. If we don't get better than this lot then Bates will lose all respect from the fans. He keeps going on about how big we are then prove it by getting some quality players!! {Ed015's Note - shocked that we accepted a bid from a rival club but Grayson said a new contract would be hard to negotiate so best accept the cash than let him go for free i guess}

21 Jun 2011 08:20:06
When I went on a stadium tour about 5 years ago, Styx Lockwood (then general manager) told me that on the internationals board (as you walk into the Banqueting suite side, JC Stand) was left open for Alan Smith because he always said he would come back.

Normally the dates are ended when the player leaves the club (1999 - 2003) but Smithy's was never finished with a year. (1999 - )

Anyone been past the board recently? If it is still open maybe Smithy will be back, not involved with England anymore though!